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00:00Thanks for coming by so quickly.
00:02Well, your tone was rather demanding
00:06when you summoned me. What's wrong?
00:09My daughter.
00:10You have many daughters. You've got to be more specific.
00:12Avery.
00:13Has something happened to her? She's not hurt, is she?
00:15Not yet.
00:17My daughter is not safe with Ava and I want Avery with me.
00:23Put him on.
00:30Avery.
00:50I don't care if he's busy.
00:52Put him on the phone now or I will see to it that you don't have a job by the morning.
00:57Thank you.
01:01I need to see you.
01:03And obviously I can't come there.
01:05Someone might see me and associate me with this story on Natalia.
01:08So you have to come here to my room.
01:10Just take the elevator up to the pool level and take the stairs the rest of the way.
01:16Yeah, the stairs. You can handle it.
01:18We can't risk anybody seeing you come to my door.
01:21You got it?
01:24Good. And hurry up about it.
01:27Okay, I have narrowed down the list of people to fill in for me at the center while I'm on maternity leave.
01:33Okay.
01:34These are the top five. Will you take a look? Let me know what you think.
01:37Okay.
01:38Honey, I don't know what I'm going to see that you haven't seen.
01:40I'm sure whoever you picked is going to do a great job.
01:44Honey.
01:46But they're...
01:48I know they're dear, but...
01:50I'm not that concerned about the center right now.
01:53I'm concerned about you.
02:04Oh my God!
02:08Wow. Okay.
02:10It looks like all of us have our phones set for Deception's news feed.
02:15This is amazing. Maybe it means our stock prices are sky high.
02:19I bet you're right. I bet you're right.
02:21I bet you're right. I bet you Blaze's fans are ditching Fenty for Deception in droves right now.
02:27Girls, I bill by the hour. So if you want to look at your phones, or do you want to talk contracts?
02:35The contract is irrelevant.
02:37No, no, no, no, no, no.
02:39Blaze?
02:41Why don't you and I go into the conference room and talk in private?
02:44What's going on?
02:45I'll tell you what's going on.
02:47The invader has posted a recording that at least a dozen other sites have picked up.
02:54A recording of what?
02:56Your mother.
02:58You know, for someone so overly cautious about media exposure, you really need to learn a lesson about a hot mic.
03:03What are you talking about?
03:05If you people have started some sort of a media disaster, then tell me what's going on.
03:09Oh, there's a disaster, all right. But we're not the ones that caused it.
03:15.
03:46Just give me some answers.
03:47No, the coast was clear.
03:49All right, good.
03:50Which was lucky, because anyone I encountered would have definitely recognized me.
03:58But mommy dearest's big expose has spiked the invader's web traffic through the roof,
04:04and made me poor Charles' most sought-after talking head.
04:08I'm already booked on TMZ, and Andy Cohen wants me to bartend.
04:13Don't you have anything without bubbles?
04:15Will you listen to me?
04:17I don't care how many interviews you do, or how you exploit this to raise your own personal profile.
04:23Just keep my name out of it.
04:26I took great care to edit myself out of that conversation.
04:30I don't want the blowback should anybody figure out I was the person that Natalia was talking to.
04:35I was a successful society columnist for many years,
04:39and the first thing you learn is always protect your sources.
04:43Now, I know how to keep your secret.
04:45Glad to hear it.
04:46And besides, you're not the story.
04:49Natalia is. All anyone cares about is what she said, not who she said it to.
04:57You agreed to joint custody with Avery's mother.
04:59Yeah, well, I don't agree anymore.
05:01I want sole custody. I don't even want Avery to have visitation.
05:05She's a snake, and my daughter shouldn't be around her.
05:08Okay. Yes, Ava's a horrible person. But what else is new?
05:13Exactly.
05:14No, no, no. What I mean is, everyone already knows about Ava's history, including her stint in prison.
05:21What's important here is, has she committed any new crimes that we can prove?
05:26Because I can make a case to change custody if Ava has harmed Avery or endangered her in any way.
05:33Breathing the same air, isn't... isn't that...
05:40Would that it were.
05:42No, Sonny, the court takes the parent-child relationships very seriously.
05:47In order to get you sole custody, we have to prove that Ava is not simply unfit to raise Avery,
05:54but that she is more unfit than you.
05:57Because trust me, for every reason that we give as to why Ava is corrupting Avery,
06:02she'll throw one right back at you.
06:05Sounds like you're already prepared to lose.
06:10No.
06:13My job is not only to plead your case, but to provide you counsel.
06:18And I think you need to know the steep hill that you're about to climb,
06:23not to mention what happens if we take this to court.
06:26What's that?
06:28Avery's not a baby anymore.
06:30Okay.
06:31If she sees you trying to take her mother away from her, that might permanently alter her relationship with you.
06:35Are you willing to risk that?
06:37Well, I'd rather her hate her father than become her mother.
06:43Your call.
06:46Get dates and other details for a family court proceeding.
06:54What's the problem?
06:56Well, it's a big one.
06:59Do you mind if I make a phone call?
07:07You're in the home stretch of your pregnancy.
07:11You're in the home stretch of your pregnancy.
07:14And this last part is going to be challenging physically and emotionally.
07:20It could be daunting. It could be scary.
07:22And I love you, and I just want you to know that I am here for you no matter what.
07:27I do know that, but it never hurts to hear it. Thank you.
07:31I'm lucky I have Allie, too. She's been amazing.
07:35I'm happy for you.
07:38Excuse me one second.
07:42Hello?
07:43I just saw the invader's news alert. What on earth are you doing?
07:47I'm here with Christina. We're celebrating because I quit my job at the invader.
07:52Tabloid life is behind me.
07:55And I don't know anything about any news alerts unless it's a picture of my face on a dart board that they're running.
08:08Alexis is with Christina.
08:12No, it's not about you, but it's bad. You need to go to the invader's website now.
08:18What am I looking for?
08:20Believe me, you'll know it when you see it.
08:23And make sure you turn the audio up and tell Christina I'm sorry.
08:27Okay.
08:30Huh.
08:31What's going on, Mom? Is everything okay?
08:33It's an article about Natalia.
08:36I have it on audio. I'm going to push play.
08:40Well, they're not really a normal couple, are they?
08:43Christina's pregnant with her sister's baby.
08:46She's holding hands with Allison out in public.
08:48I'm scared to death that somebody's going to take a picture and sell it to the tabloids because my daughter's career is just taking off.
08:53It's going to be such a scandal.
08:55I'm not a prude. Whatever people do behind closed doors, that's their own business.
08:59I just feel like gay people or whatever alphabet soup they're calling themselves these days, they're flighty.
09:05They're just not very serious about life.
09:08It just seems like Christina and Allison just think,
09:11oh, wouldn't it be so fun to have a baby as long as we don't have to do any of the hard work or be serious about it.
09:16I do try to stay open-minded.
09:19As long as we don't have to do any of the hard work or be serious about it.
09:22I do try to stay open-minded.
09:25Just as if my way of thinking is considered old-fashioned, that so is.
09:33Well, don't hold back, Mom.
09:35Tell us how you really feel.
09:44I do try to stay open-minded.
09:46Just as if my way of thinking is considered old-fashioned, that so is.
09:53Turn it off. I've heard enough. I get the gist.
09:58Are you okay?
09:59No, I'm not okay.
10:02I'm so mad. My blood is boiling. I can't imagine how you feel.
10:07I mean, I'm going to be fine.
10:08I'm not the one who was just outed and discriminated against by my own mother for the whole public to hear.
10:15I'm angry, obviously, but I'm going to be fine.
10:18Is there any word from Blaze?
10:20No, nothing, and usually we text constantly.
10:22Well, maybe she hasn't seen it yet.
10:25I doubt that. Deception PR probably reached out to her immediately,
10:30and I'm sure they're locked in a room together strategizing a response.
10:34Do you want to go talk to her?
10:35No, Allie doesn't need me to swoop in. She'll call me when she can.
10:39I honestly don't understand how any mother can talk about her daughter that way.
10:43I know. You don't. That's why I'm so grateful.
10:47I just realized, forget about me taking a maternity leave from the center.
10:54After this, they're not even going to let me in the front doors.
10:59Oh, my phone is blowing up. Do you want to join me and celebrate?
11:06Listen to me, you little worm. Forget you know me.
11:09When I say my name, it's not to cross your lips.
11:12That means not any time, not to anyone, especially not Nina.
11:17Ooh, sounds like there's a story there. Care to dish?
11:21Ask me that again, and I'll see to it that you are typing with your toes from now on.
11:26And don't think I won't do it. Men have killed on my behalf for a lot less.
11:31So just stick to our agreement.
11:33As far as the rest of the world is concerned, you and I have never met.
11:37We've never even spoken.
11:39I already told you.
11:40And take down the recording. Okay, by now it's had the desired effect.
11:43There's no reason to have it posted online anymore.
11:46Are you crazy? I can't do that.
11:50Taking it down would just draw more attention to it.
11:53People would be asking why it disappeared and all sorts of other questions.
11:57Questions to which every answer is Ava Jerome, exactly what you don't want.
12:03Besides, the wire services have already picked up the story.
12:06It's everywhere. There's no going back now.
12:12I don't know what that was, but it's not like it sounds.
12:18Really? Are you denying it was your voice on the recording?
12:22I'm not denying that. It obviously was me.
12:24All right, all right, she said it. The tape is real.
12:28Deception has a PR mess right now.
12:30Deception has a PR mess right now. Do you have any crisis management people on retainer?
12:35Um, we did.
12:36Oh.
12:37But we let them go when we needed to save money.
12:40Lucy.
12:41Well, that wasn't a good idea.
12:42You know what? I had no idea that something like this would happen.
12:46Lucy, I know a guy.
12:48No, everybody just stop talking, okay?
12:51This is what's going to happen.
12:53Lucy, you're going to call our regular PR team and coordinate a response.
12:57Lois, text Brooklyn, tell her to lock down all of our social media accounts. No comments allowed.
13:01Scott, guard the door.
13:02From who?
13:03From Tracy. We're all going to need protection if our stocks take a nosedive.
13:07And you, you're going to tell me everything you know about that recording.
13:11Where did that interview even take place?
13:13There was no interview. There was. I've never spoken to a reporter ever on that topic.
13:17I don't even remember saying those words or who I could have said them to.
13:21Because you say such vile, disgusting things so often.
13:25To so many people.
13:30I cannot believe it's Natalia Ramirez.
13:32I didn't realize that you knew her.
13:34Right.
13:35But then of course you would. She's Christina's girlfriend's mother.
13:37Listen, you know, I knew she had a problem with her daughter being gay, Blaze.
13:42But I didn't think she would spew that kind of garbage.
13:46Could it have been fake somehow? AI?
13:50Well, technically it's possible.
13:52But I doubt the invader would have run such an inflammatory story without being able to authenticate it.
13:58Not to mention, they're opening themselves up to a hell of a lawsuit.
14:02Doesn't make sense.
14:04That Natalia is a homophobe and has a gay daughter.
14:07You'd be surprised how many times that happens.
14:10And how easily some people can hide their ugliness in polite company.
14:15Even if Natalia believes what she says, I thought she would be smart enough not to be talking to somebody who could be recording her.
14:22Sometimes people let their hatred get the better of them.
14:26Why did Alexis publish it?
14:29Alexis didn't. Alexis quit the invader this morning.
14:33The first she heard about any of this was when I called her.
14:36Well, whoever did this, you know, they hurt my daughter.
14:41And that means there's a target on their back.
14:46Check the lesson that Natalia is learning right now.
14:49Very seriously.
14:51Even things that are said in the privacy of your own home, behind closed doors, run the risk of being exposed to the public.
14:57I know the dangers of being recorded.
14:59Good.
15:00Okay.
15:01Because it's things like this.
15:03Things that are said in anger.
15:05That will work against you in your custody fight for Avery.
15:09The court needs to see you as a reliable, stand-up parent that the court trusts.
15:23How good of a parent would I be if I don't do anything about this kind of garbage?
15:30Has something else happened?
15:32See for yourself.
15:35Activists on social media are calling on Christina to resign from the LGBTQ center that she, that she founded.
15:47They don't think that she should be running the outreach because she's dating somebody in the closet.
15:53They think that Christina has too much internalized homophobia to be trusted.
16:02Well, I'm sorry, but that's, that far from describes Christina.
16:07But boy, people love to get worked up over things they know nothing about.
16:20Don't jump to the worst case scenario.
16:23That center exists because of you and you will be able to work this out.
16:27I don't know. You heard the tape.
16:29Natalia was saying such ugly things about gay people.
16:32It was appalling.
16:33Appalling.
16:34The worse is she robbed Blaze of her chance to come out on her own terms and now everybody knows.
16:40But that doesn't mean there isn't something that we can do about this.
16:44What? No, no, no, mom.
16:45No, I'm not going to interfere between Blaze and her mother.
16:48I'll let Blaze handle that.
16:49But I am going after the person who made that recording public.
16:54I didn't set out to hurt Christina or Blaze or me.
17:02If you just keep your mouth shut, I will have plausible deniability.
17:07And if anybody comes poking around asking for the identity of the person who provided you with the recording.
17:12It came to the invader via its anonymous tip line.
17:16That's right, it did.
17:18Now go, get out of here.
17:23Hey, have you, have you learned nothing?
17:32Okay, okay, okay.
17:41I am going over and over it in my head and I have no memory of ever saying any of those words to anyone.
17:47I'm just, I'm wondering, maybe my phone was tapped.
17:51It doesn't sound like it was over a bad connection.
17:55It sounds like it was in person.
17:57But I don't think that's the real issue here.
18:01You are so right.
18:02It's not about how or why.
18:04It's about what the hell are we going to do now?
18:07I know you need to respond because I'm the face of deception.
18:09But to me, this is so much more.
18:12This will impact my music career.
18:14You're right, yeah.
18:15No, you're right.
18:16So, um, Allison and I will put together a joint statement that we can release to some friendly outlets.
18:21Absolutely not.
18:22Why would I ever want to publicly associate with you after the whole world has heard what my mom really thinks of me?
18:30Allison, those weren't specifically about you, those words on the tape.
18:35It was more, it was just a generalization, really.
18:40You mentioned both me and Christina.
18:44But would it really matter if you left my name out of your bigoted stereotyping?
18:49Allison.
18:50No, tell us, mom.
18:53Which gay people are disturbing and offensive to your delicate sensibilities?
18:58Does the sight of a drag queen on a pride float make you angry?
19:03If the thought of Christina and I holding hands in public makes you sick to your stomach, are we the problem?
19:08Or would any two women in love disgust you?
19:14Oh yeah, you're real quiet now.
19:17You can shut up on the recording, but the minute you have to defend your homophobia, you have nothing to say?
19:23I just think we should talk about this in private.
19:26Why?
19:27The whole world has heard your words by now.
19:33You know, I should have known something like this was going to happen eventually,
19:37because this is the way you always talk about gay people.
19:41Dismissively.
19:43Pityingly.
19:45Reducing us to how we look and talking who we love like we're not real people to you.
19:52Myself included.
19:55You know, it really is ironic that the same person who locked poor Blaise in a closet
20:02is the same person who just outed her.
20:05Lucy, you are not helping.
20:07You know what? I am a victim here too.
20:09Somebody has used me to try to damage my daughter's career.
20:12Why are we not talking about that?
20:14You haven't heard a single thing I've said, have you?
20:18I let you convince me to portray the kind of straight person you thought my career needed,
20:23and now you and your words have destroyed it all.
20:27Along with any hope I have for a future and a life in music.
20:43My daughter gets very emotional sometimes.
20:46I think she has a right to be.
20:49Blaise is very upset.
20:52Do you want to go after her?
20:54No, no. I don't think it would do any good because she's not really in the frame of mind
20:59to continue that conversation right now.
21:01So, I mean, believe me, I know my daughter.
21:03Do you?
21:05Okay, I have nothing more to contribute. I should go.
21:09No, I think you should stay. We might need legal advice.
21:12You know, you're right. I think a lawyer probably should be here
21:16as we finalize the very last addendum on Blaise's contract.
21:23You can't do that. My daughter is known everywhere as the face of deception. Stop it!
21:29If you do that, if you try to get rid of her, there's going to be such a backlash in the press and in the courts.
21:35Actually, I think we're well within our rights.
21:38This will change our relationship with Blaise.
21:47Knock, knock, knock.
21:54Oh, hi.
21:56Hi.
21:57Didn't you hear me knocking?
21:59Uh, sorry. I just saw a note on my phone.
22:03The Invader article, I'm guessing.
22:06Yeah.
22:07I was hoping you hadn't seen it yet.
22:10Although then I would have had to have been the one to break the news to you.
22:13Uh, no, I've definitely seen it.
22:16These comments are just awful. The ones on Instagram are particularly brutal.
22:24Wow. Looks like I'm cancelled.
22:28I think we both are.
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22:42Right away, sir.
22:54You're in my son.
22:56Better than being all up in your business, which I will be if you don't agree to play ball.
23:04I had to harass your poor assistant until he cracked, so that I could find out where you were.
23:10Note to self, fire assistant.
23:13Anything you want to discuss can wait until tomorrow.
23:16Now, you're intruding on my hard-earned afternoon off.
23:20Good, because by posting that loathsome recording, you intruded on my daughter and her girlfriend.
23:27Is that what's snapping your brassiere?
23:30Keep yucking it up, DeWitt.
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25:42Saying that my daughter is no longer good enough to be the face of deception?
25:48Her services are no longer needed since she's been outed
25:52and she can't sell your fragrances because she's gay?
25:55Uh, Maxie, could I have a word before you open yourself up to a big discussion?
25:58I'm saying the exact opposite, actually.
26:01What deception cannot afford is to have a face representing us who is ashamed to be gay.
26:07That is so right.
26:09Deception has a very diverse clientele that we are proud of.
26:13YouTubers, TikTokers, makeup artists, influencers.
26:17A lot of whom are gay and have a very large social media presence.
26:23What deception cannot do is align itself with someone who is ashamed of her identity.
26:30An identity a lot of these people also share and are very proud of.
26:37Deception is a gay-friendly company.
26:40So you and Blaze need to either get with the program or kick rocks.
26:46Look, um, listen.
26:49I think we're all parents who love our kids,
26:53and this is a very difficult situation that's evolving.
26:56It's less about contracts as it is about a mother and daughter trying to find their way back to each other.
27:02So maybe we could just be a little careful with our hurtful words.
27:07I'm not being hurtful. I'm telling the truth.
27:10She is, and you have a point.
27:13We love Blaze, but we just can't sacrifice Deception's reputation for her.
27:19I agree with you 100%. We can't do that.
27:22I'm just saying that maybe we could just put the contract negotiations aside.
27:26We can work on our PR response.
27:29That gives Natalia the chance to go after Blaze and try to make peace with her daughter, right?
27:36So what do you say?
27:40My relationship with my daughter is none of your business.
27:47Any of your business.
27:49Excuse me.
27:50But when it comes to the contract,
27:54from Deception and my daughter,
27:56if any of you do anything to hurt her, you're gonna have to deal with me.
28:06I'm so sorry.
28:08I read some of the posts on the way over here.
28:10People are saying horrible things about you in the center, and it's all my fault.
28:13No, it's not your fault.
28:15Allie, it's your mother's fault.
28:17Come on, Christina.
28:19We wouldn't even be having this conversation if I had just been truthful about being gay.
28:24You did what you thought was best, Allie.
28:26No.
28:28I did what was easiest.
28:31I didn't want to rock the boat with my mother, so I tried to have it both ways,
28:35and now it might have cost me everything.
28:39Including you.
28:42I know how much the center means to you.
28:46If you can't forgive the damage my mom and I have caused,
28:52your life, I understand.
28:56We can go our separate ways.
28:58No hard feelings, but you don't have to decide.
29:02Right now, I'll let you figure it out.
29:06Don't you dare.
29:09You are not going anywhere.
29:13You haven't caused any damage to my life.
29:16I was already planning on handing over the reins to the center.
29:20And, you know, as far as I'm concerned, the only thing that I've lost is the title of undercover girlfriend.
29:29We're already out. There's nothing to hide anymore.
29:32Yeah, well, there also might be nothing left to salvage.
29:37What if I lose everything that I've worked so hard for?
29:41What if I lose everything that I've worked so hard to make?
29:44Allie, that's not going to happen. Your career is not going to suffer just because you're gay.
29:48It's not because I'm gay. It's because I hid it.
29:52People hate liars, and I can't blame them.
29:55Okay, you are breaking my heart.
29:57I can't stand to see you beat yourself up over something that isn't even your fault.
30:01I know it feels like everything is falling apart right now, and I get that, but it's going to be okay.
30:07All right, we're going to be okay. We can get through this. I have faith in us.
30:14Allie, you feel the same way, right?
30:18Hey.
30:20I'm sorry, Christine.
30:24No, I don't.
30:27Go ahead. Do your worst.
30:31I mean, if your legal skills are anything on par with your ability to publish a newspaper, I think I'll be just fine.
30:39Cute.
30:40Besides, I have the Bill of Rights on my side.
30:43No, you don't.
30:44Even the Bill of Rights has limits, even to freedoms of speech and the press.
30:50I distinctly remember warning you about that, Dewitt.
30:53I told you to be very cautious how you deploy secret recordings.
30:57Secret? Is Natalia Ramirez boo-hooing that she didn't know she was being recorded?
31:03Oh, too bad. New York is a one-party consent state.
31:08Perhaps you should consult the legal books before your triumphant return to court.
31:14Perhaps you should seek counsel, because Nina is going to cut that little tightrope that you walk on and send you plummeting to the ground
31:24when she finds out how exposed you've left the Invader and Nina.
31:29Did you ever hear of reasonable expectation of privacy?
31:34Blaze is the face of deception and a famous singer.
31:38Public figures don't get to claim privacy.
31:42True. Blaze is public, but her mother isn't.
31:47See, you and the Invader have monetized and commercialized the name of a private citizen without her consent.
31:55I mean, that's a pretty big softball you left hanging, waiting for me to just hit it right out of the park.
32:02It's also a career killer.
32:06I think I'd like to consult my lawyer.
32:09Why? You have a lawyer right here. Me.
32:13In fact, I'll just waive the whole retainer.
32:16Wait, I will just make the whole thing go away in exchange for one small thing.
32:23What do you want?
32:25I want the name of the person who supplied you with that recording.
32:44I just feel like gay people or whatever alphabet soup they're calling themselves these days, they're flighty.
32:51They're just not very serious about life.
32:58It just seems like Christina and Allison just think,
33:01oh, wouldn't it be so fun to have a baby as long as we don't have to do any of the hard work or be serious about it.
33:14Who was I talking to?
33:17Why the hell would they record it and send it to the media?
33:27Brainstorm, besides the press release, what is our next move?
33:30Okay, well, maybe I should cool it with my appearances, okay?
33:33We don't want the world mistakenly thinking that it's business as usual at Deception while I'm out there slinging bronzer.
33:39No, we need you slinging because you are now the only face of Deception we have left.
33:44Look, I think it's important you to be out there even more to show people we aren't hiding anything
33:49and we have absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about.
33:52Yes, Lucy is right. We should deal with this Blaze thing head on.
33:58Okay, you know what, this might not be popular, but I'm just going to go right out and say it.
34:03You know, we can't afford another stumble with Deception,
34:06so maybe we need to just put it out there that we are completely not going to associate
34:11and our contract with Blaze right now, just like you said.
34:14No, Lucy, I didn't mean that part, okay?
34:16I only said it to prompt Natalia into sacrificing herself,
34:20but I seriously underestimated that woman's self-absorption.
34:23I just don't think we should be hasty, okay?
34:26Why can't we just take a day to think about it?
34:28Because we don't have time. We need to issue a statement immediately.
34:32We need to make sure that everyone knows that we do not agree with Natalia's views.
34:36Otherwise, Deception could implode. We could be inundated with candlelight vigils and marches
34:42and we could be cancelled on social media.
34:46What's it going to be, Maxie? Should I draw up a statement?
34:51Blaze in, Lucy out.
34:57I'm not saying I want us to break up the thought of not being with you anymore.
35:02I just don't see a way for us to move forward after this.
35:05Okay. Okay, then I do. I will guide us both.
35:10That's a huge responsibility, Kristen.
35:12I don't care. I don't care. Allie, you're worth it. And I love you.
35:19I refuse to accept that your enormous talent and your huge heart won't override every ugly thing
35:26that anyone will ever say about us.
35:28And it is not love that is making me say this to you right now,
35:31but it is love that will make me continue saying this to you over and over and over again
35:36until you believe it.
35:40We will talk again after you set up a strategy to get me to sell custody of my daughter.
35:46I have a lot of research ahead of me.
35:56Sonny?
36:00I'll be in touch.
36:11I can tell by the look on your face that you've heard the recording.
36:16Yeah, I have.
36:17Yeah?
36:18Yeah.
36:19I know that you must be pretty upset by what you heard
36:24and that you, I'm sure, don't have a very high opinion of me now.
36:29Pretty obvious, huh?
36:31I don't blame you.
36:32I'm not going to force my presence on you here, so I'll be going,
36:35but first I just wanted you to know...
36:38I wanted you to hear where that recording came from.
36:43You were on the tape?
36:44Yes.
36:45With your daughter and my daughter?
36:47Yes. Unfortunately, those are my words, yes.
36:51But they were to someone close to you who secretly recorded it.
36:59Who?
37:00It actually took me a little while to remember who I even had that regrettable conversation with,
37:06but when I finally realized who it was,
37:10the person who edited out their part of that recording
37:15is the same person who supplied it to the invader.
37:20Ava Jerome.
37:23My room service was supposed to be here 20 minutes ago. Is there a problem?
37:27Ah, there it is now. Thank you.
37:31We need to have a conversation.
37:34One that won't be recorded.