" Social Media Ko Control Karne Ki Zaroorat Hai "Nayyar Bukhari Ki Khusoosi Guftagu
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00:00People's Party members were not present at the event. The bill was passed and it will be a challenge.
00:05But there is a very lukewarm response from People's Party. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari
00:10did not give an open statement on this. You have a very strict stance in this regard.
00:15The kind of opposition that has been the tradition of People's Party in the past,
00:20it has not been seen so far. And they are saying that your silence should be understood as half consent.
00:25Why do you expect that we should follow the same pattern as others?
00:35Without a doubt, we believe in freedom of expression. But you see,
00:42indiscriminate freedom is not right. It is subject to certain nationalities.
00:47It is subject to law and constitution. And you see, there is a need to control social media.
00:53The kind of material that is posted, it is in front of you. How someone's turban is thrown.
01:01It does not reach anyone's right. Whether it is me, that I insult someone.
01:08And I do false publicity about someone. If there is any credible information against me,
01:16if I have committed a crime, it should definitely be published. Or if I am against someone,
01:21I should have material, I should have credible information. And I can substantiate this tomorrow.
01:26So there should not be indiscriminate. You have seen how indiscriminate it is on social media.
01:31You are endorsing this bill.
01:33I will say one thing, the way the bill was passed, it should not have been passed like this.
01:39The stakeholders should have taken it on board. There should have been discussion in the committee.
01:45And there are a lot of provisions in it that are objectionable. So it could have been discussed.
01:50So sir, you are pushing the government so aggressively.
01:53But you think that everyone should have freedom.
01:55No, no, sir, I don't think that your extreme reaction was seen on the budget.
01:58Your aggressive opposition was seen. Your aggressive reservations were seen.
02:02So much so that the bill was not seen in Punjab, nor was the concern of the People's Party seen in Wifaq.
02:08See, it means that we should not be clubbed with certain organizations.
02:14We are bringing our point of view. Our parliamentary leader said that we were not taken on board.
02:22If he could have passed without our strength, our presence would not have been there.
02:29The governor said on day one that I do not agree with this bill.
02:33Under the constitution, he would have referred back.
02:35But he did not.
02:36And if he had passed it again and sent it, he would not have signed it.
02:39He did not refer back.
02:40But when he went abroad, the acting governor signed it from behind.
02:48Sir, he would have sent it back after raising objections.
02:49And then there would have been a challenge.
02:50Then he would have gone abroad. He did not sign it and send it back.
02:53He did not raise objections and send it back.
02:55Governor cannot have a dictation from the organizations.
03:00Governor has his own responsibilities. He knows what he has to do.
03:05Do you think that people should start dictating the office of the governor to the parliament?
03:10No, sir.
03:11They should not be dictating.
03:12No, if you have objections as a party policy, if the governor is from the People's Party,
03:16then put those objections on the bill and send it back.
03:19Sir, we are talking procedurally.
03:21He publicly announced it.
03:24Somehow, he did not go back.
03:26So, which mountain has fallen?
03:28Sir, the bill has been passed.
03:29But he did not show his concern.
03:30There was no debate.
03:31There was no debate.
03:32It was what it was.
03:33There was no review in the committee.
03:34It was what it was.
03:35Look, it was very important that what was the hurry to pass the bill to the Punjab government?
03:45Why did not they invite the stakeholders?
03:47They should have invited them.
03:49Some provisions are like this.
03:51For example, the leave grant.
03:56Obviously, that leave grant is also there so that the person can come and substantiate
04:00that the news he has given has sound material.
04:04He can establish it in the court of law.
04:09But you also see that when news comes against you, it comes in two columns.
04:17If there is a refutation, it comes in two lines.
04:19What is the redress for the damage caused to a personality?
04:24Mr. Bukhari, this is the same thing.
04:25There were defamation laws before too.
04:27Yes, this is the same thing.
04:28Sir, you understand the parliamentary system better than me.
04:30This bill goes back.
04:31There is an objection.
04:32There is pressure on the government.
04:33People's Party does aggressive politics there.
04:37And then these objections may go away from you.
04:40You did not do it.
04:41You gave them an easy walkover.
04:43No, it is not a walkover.
04:46This is your perception.
04:48According to me, it is not that correct.
04:52I told you that we should not be dictated how to do our products.
04:57We have done our products.
04:59And we are satisfied.
05:01Even today, we say that there should have been a better law.
05:05It should not have been passed in this situation.
05:08There are some provisions that I think should not have been there.
05:13This is a big problem for us.
05:15Thank you very much, Mr. Bukhari.