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At a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing on Wednesday, Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT) questioned Sec. Lloyd Austin about


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00:00 Thank you guys for your patience and going through the order here. We've had good participation today.
00:04 Look, I've repeatedly called upon Secretary Mayorkas and President Biden and Congress
00:11 to step up and fix what's going on the southern border. It's not sustainable at all and it's
00:16 unacceptable. DHS continues to rely on DOD support at the southern border to make sure that
00:25 they're doing what they can do. But once again, I don't see any funding in this budget for DOD
00:31 personnel for those operations. So Mr. Secretary, a couple things. Number one,
00:36 how many troops are serving currently on the southern border?
00:38 There's about 2,500. Yeah. And how does DOD cover these costs?
00:45 As we always have out of our operating budget. And so what does that mean operationally? Who
00:54 gets shorted? Of course, that means that there's something else that we're not doing
01:00 because of that support. But it's important that we do everything we can to support DHS
01:11 and its effort to, and its work on the southwest border. We've been doing that for 19 of the last
01:18 23 years. The price tag's been about $4 billion. But again, we are supporting agency and DHS is a
01:29 lead agency. And again, it's important to our country and we're going to do what's required.
01:34 Let me ask you this, Mr. Secretary. Do you agree with my perspective that the administration needs
01:41 to do more to secure the border and we shouldn't have to depend upon the military to do that?
01:47 We should or should not? Should not have to depend upon the military for that.
01:53 I agree. But if we're required to assist, then certainly we will continue to do so.
02:00 I want to go back to the Senate. And the president agrees with
02:03 the fact that there's more that should be done. And that's why when you came up with this
02:07 bipartisan approach, that was very much supported. Yeah. Well, no doubt about it. Congress dropped
02:13 the ball on that because that would have changed things dramatically. But some folks wanted to be
02:18 used as a political tool when in fact we ought to be working for the betterment of the country,
02:22 not for Democrats or Republicans. I want to talk to you a little bit about Sentinel.
02:27 Senator Hoeven brought this up. I'm frustrated. Secretary Kendall is recusing himself for
02:38 reasons, by the way, that I understand members of Congress have created that problem. Northrop
02:45 Grumman is doing what they can do. The Air Force is doing what they can do. Bechtel is doing what
02:50 they can do. You guys have educated me very, very well on what's going on in this world and why this
02:56 is a dangerous time. Yet I don't get the sense of urgency on Sentinel, particularly with the
03:02 ground-based missiles that we have. We've got timelines. And quite frankly, we had a general
03:12 in front of the VA MilCon committee, and General Green, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong,
03:18 General Green, and I asked him about timelines. Great guy, incredibly, incredibly talented,
03:24 could not even give me the year they anticipated starting this program. And I get it. There's
03:32 studies going on. There's cost issues. And it's going to cost a lot. General Brown, can you give
03:40 me any sort of -- this is in your old job, front and center, and it's still in your new job, too,
03:46 by the way, but can you give me any idea on if I should be concerned about the timeline continuing
03:53 to slip on the ground-based nuclear missile Sentinel project that I think is critically
03:58 important as a deterrent moving forward in this world in the 21st century?
04:01 Senator, I don't necessarily have the details, but I think for all of us, we all should be -- I get
04:07 concerned we don't get the capability to the hands of our war fighters or things that are very
04:11 important to our strategic deterrence. And so my focus as a chairman, and same as when I was the
04:17 Air Force Chief, is to ensure we're doing everything we can to make sure we bring that capability
04:22 forward. And so I am focused and want to make sure that we continue that. So I do have, like you,
04:28 have some concerns. I want to understand where we are and what the things we need to do to ensure
04:32 we bring that capability forward as quickly as possible. We're here to help. Yes, sir.
04:38 But I will tell you that unless we start getting timelines and goals and everything set up,
04:44 there's going to be a lot of pressure being put on people. Because, quite frankly,
04:51 I do not think it's acceptable to be continuing to say, don't worry about this, it's coming.
05:01 The truth is, is we've been at this for a while and I haven't seen it coming,
05:06 seen it progressing to the point it needs to. Senator Collins, I'll get to you. I want to get
05:12 to Senator Murkowski for her first round. Senator Murkowski.
05:15 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And apologize, we're all jumping in between multiple appropriations,
05:20 subcommittees this morning.
05:22 But gentlemen, thank you for--

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