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  • 3/28/2025
During a House Energy And Commerce Committee hearing on examining harms online on Wednesday, Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI) spoke at length about the importance of the 'Take It Down Act'.

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00:00Thank you. All right, next we have the, let's see, who's next on the Democrats side?
00:06Ms. Dingell, there she is. Okay, Ms. Dingell, you're recognized for five minutes of questioning.
00:11Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to start by saying thank you to all of the witnesses who I have worked with
00:17for a long time before I ever got to Congress. And like all of my colleagues, both sides of the aisle,
00:24we are horrified by the fact that there were death threats. I do not like the normalizing
00:31of violence or bullying or anything we're seeing, and we're here today because we are fighting that.
00:38And when I look at the parents, you need to know people on both sides care deeply. That's why we've
00:44been trying for years to get legislation through. I have sat with parents. My own sister died of
00:51suicide. I understand that pain, and there isn't a member in this room that doesn't care about you,
00:57and I want to make that really clear. And what we really want to do is actually get something done,
01:04and I need to say that. I'm proud to co-lead the bipartisan Bicameral Take It Down Act,
01:11which recently passed the Senate unanimously and, for the record, was included in the end of the
01:18year budget bill before it got killed. I won't say who it was because I won't make it partisan,
01:24but we've got to work together because we know this has to get done. And my colleagues here
01:31have brought up the firing of these two commissioners because it happened because
01:37he didn't like them, and we've got to be clear here. The FTC is an independent agency, and what
01:44happened is blatantly unconstitutional, and independent agencies are intended to be insulated
01:50from political motivations. And this is the organization that's supposed to be keeping us safe
01:56without a functioning FTC. How can we expect to enforce the Take It Down Act if it becomes law?
02:04And I'm asking every colleague on the other side of the aisle to pledge to work to get this done.
02:10Please, we've got to stop the politics. We've got to get it done. How do we go after bad actors, protect
02:16consumers, and hold platforms accountable? The simple answer is we cannot. Gutting the FTC means
02:24gutting our ability to protect kids and women online. And as artificial technology advances,
02:31so do new forms of abuse. Primarily, who do they target? Women and children.
02:39Deepfake pornography is being used as a tool for harassment, humiliation, and intimidation,
02:47particularly against women who speak out and advocate for themselves or for children. That's
02:54what happened to you all today, and not a member at this dais thinks that that is okay. I want to
02:59make that really, really clear. The Take It Down Act provides victims with a path to justice,
03:07ensures these images are removed, and holds perpetrators accountable. I want to work with
03:13all stakeholders to pass the strongest bill possible and get this bill across the finish
03:19line. And I'm begging my colleagues to help me do this. If we succeed in passing this important
03:26legislation, we've got to make sure that we've got a body that's going to enforce it so that we
03:31don't have women unprotected against this growing threat. One of our most important jobs in Congress
03:37is to protect people, including from the growing harms online. And I'll tell you, it's only getting
03:45worse. It's just getting worse by the day. So Commissioner Slaughter, let me ask you this
03:51question. Without a fully independent functional FTC, do you believe the agency's current authority
03:58is sufficient to effectively enforce the Take It Down Act and hold platforms accountable,
04:03or do we need to take additional action to strengthen potential enforcement capabilities?
04:11Thank you. Look, I would also like to not be here talking about my employment status. I would like
04:18to be here talking about this important work that the FTC has been doing and will be doing in the
04:25future to address these critically, critically important issues for American families, for
04:31parents across the country. Cyberbullying doesn't distinguish between Republicans and Democrats,
04:37blue states and red states. This is something that affects all of us, and I agree we all need
04:43to be working together on. With respect to specific legislation, I think an important role
04:49at the FTC has been to take the laws that Congress has passed, to faithfully administer them, and then
04:55to go back to Congress if we think something needs to be improved or leaves gaps.
05:00And I think we've had some of those conversations around privacy generally. We've had those
05:04conversations around COPPA. If Congress passes COSA, if Congress passes Take It Down,
05:12you certainly have my commitment to faithfully administer those laws and let you know if there's
05:18more that the FTC needs. Mr. Chairman, I'm out of time. Let's just pledge to work with each other
05:26and get these bills done. And these children's memories, these beautiful children here,
05:34the pictures of these beautiful children, thank you very much for coming, and you are going to
05:39make a difference, and we are going to work together to get this done.

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