Kya Mulk Ka Nizaam Ab Maffi Talaafi Se Hi Agay Chalay Ga??
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00:00 I have a little bit of an idea about this and I will share it with you.
00:06 First of all, whenever there is a desire to talk to someone,
00:15 the positions are hardened so that you can talk to a position of strength.
00:20 This is the principle of negotiation skills.
00:25 I felt that both sides are close to each other,
00:30 but before that, they are trying to elevate their positions.
00:34 I will tell you a few more signs.
00:36 I think Mr. Umar Ayub said yesterday that if the Judicial Commission blames us,
00:43 we will apologize.
00:44 This means that we will not apologize.
00:50 You know that the DGI SPR said that if we want to make a Judicial Commission,
00:56 then we have to do this and that.
00:57 This means that the issue of making a Judicial Commission has also been discussed.
01:01 These are the signs that show that all these matters can be fixed.
01:06 My sister was saying in the intro that
01:09 in PTI, not everyone is good and not everyone in the other parties is bad.
01:16 If there is a discussion within the political parties,
01:21 and if we say this, which is true,
01:24 I think there should be no confusion,
01:27 that the real power is in the hands of the present government.
01:32 When you talk to the present government,
01:34 you should be sure that you are not talking to them,
01:37 you are talking to those whom you want to talk to.
01:39 Why don't you understand this?
01:40 Sir, in the present government,
01:42 you have seen in the last 48-72 hours,
01:44 has anyone brought them to the account,
01:46 has anyone consulted them,
01:47 has anyone asked them what their state is in this process?
01:50 You are right, but you tell me,
01:53 the present government,
01:54 sir, please don't answer,
01:57 can the present government leave even a leaf without their permission?
02:02 So when they talk to the present government,
02:06 the answer that will come from there,
02:07 they should be sure that the answer is coming from where they want to talk to.
02:11 Why don't you understand this?
02:12 The second thing is that you don't have any option.
02:16 The state of the country,
02:18 all stakeholders should understand that
02:22 now you are left with no option.
02:24 You have made your standoff so steep,
02:28 so deep,
02:29 that if you don't talk,
02:31 if you go towards a clash,
02:33 the country will suffer.
02:34 And who would like the country to suffer?
02:36 No one would like it,
02:37 no institution would like it,
02:38 no political party would like it.
02:40 So I think this is an ideal opportunity for political forces,
02:44 those political forces who are sitting on someone's shoulders,
02:47 they should jump off from that shoulder
02:50 and talk,
02:51 that let's go towards constitutional matters,
02:56 let's see how this interference ends,
02:58 how weakness is created,
03:00 which is considered very strong there.
03:02 All these strengths are being given to each other.
03:06 And I think I have seen some signs of this.
03:11 Very interesting perspective.
03:13 The problem is that after the election,
03:14 there is a new politics.
03:15 Before the election, there was a different politics.
03:17 After the election,
03:18 a little backward,
03:20 a political space is created for each other,
03:22 that too was not created.
03:23 Just now,
03:24 Mr. Zubair has made a correct point,
03:27 that why would the PMLN want to talk at this time?
03:29 Why would the People's Party want to talk at this time?
03:32 And when the PTI is saying,
03:34 we are not talking to you,
03:36 then they come again and again to talk to him,
03:38 and extend their hand towards him,
03:39 when the next hand is shaking.
03:41 Look,
03:42 first of all,
03:43 I agree with this that ultimately,
03:45 we have to run the country according to the Constitution.
03:50 But sometimes,
03:51 as you said,
03:52 there is a step,
03:53 when you want to achieve the ultimate goal,
03:55 there are some steps before that,
03:57 in which one step is that you should approach,
04:00 there is a need to ease up a little.
04:02 Now, I will tell you how everyone will benefit from this.
04:06 Look,
04:07 the thing is that the PTI is in a lot of turmoil,
04:10 and they need a complete reorganization.
04:13 In this broken state,
04:15 they will not be able to compete with anyone.
04:18 It is clear that they can make some money,
04:21 but they will not be able to do any such thing.
04:25 It is also very good for them,
04:27 that they get a respite,
04:28 their leadership comes out,
04:29 because leadership will only come out,
04:31 you will give and take something,
04:32 and then talk.
04:33 My proposal is that you say for 1.5-2 years,
04:36 that we let these matters run under protest,
04:39 we will not come on the streets,
04:41 we will not create unrest,
04:42 but you do this,
04:43 that all these politically motivated cases should be ended,
04:46 let our leadership come out,
04:48 and we should at least do organizational gatherings,
04:51 that we do not do the rest of the work on the streets.
04:53 The benefit that will be for the establishment,
04:55 that this law and order problem is there,
04:58 the security issues are there,
05:00 they will be able to pay attention,
05:01 and do something on that side.
05:03 Talking about PMLN,
05:05 they are absolutely right,
05:06 there is a new wave in PMLN,
05:08 in which you are all seeing,
05:10 that a major faction is trying to re-research,
05:14 they will also get a chance to use themselves,
05:17 at this time they are not in any condition.
05:19 So I think this is a win-win for everyone.
05:22 Sir, I don't understand how this is a win-win for Tariq Insaaf,
05:25 because his voter is charging him,
05:27 and all these actions that you are hearing,
05:29 that they will not apologize from tomorrow,
05:31 where is this coming from?
05:32 This is coming from their constituencies,
05:34 where people want these cases to settle,
05:37 political debate to settle.
05:38 So then they will face the same fate,
05:40 which happened with Nawaz Sharif's Mazdat,
05:42 after 2022,
05:43 when they also settled like this.
05:45 See, if the purpose of a political party,
05:48 or a political entity is that,
05:50 I should keep getting praise,
05:52 and my popularity should keep increasing,
05:56 and there should be no worry,
05:58 about what is happening with the country,
06:00 or what will happen in the meantime,
06:01 then you are right.
06:02 But I am a little optimistic,
06:04 that such people are present in the leadership,
06:07 like Alvi Sahib has started efforts,
06:09 Hamid Khan Sahib is there,
06:11 he can make it understood,
06:12 the matter can move forward,
06:13 that's why such people are present in every party,
06:15 who understand this,
06:16 which I am doing.
06:17 And I would like to give you a few small examples,
06:19 so that people get to know,
06:21 that when will this happen?
06:22 What happens?
06:23 When majority of people,
06:27 and establishment,
06:28 have a clash,
06:29 then what happens?
06:30 If we see in the scenario of Pakistan,
06:32 Bhutto and Ayub Khan had a clash,
06:34 when Zia ul Haq had a crash,
06:35 then you know what happened after that,
06:37 when people came out against Musharraf,
06:39 then what happened after that?
06:41 So, keep this in mind,
06:43 that nothing can happen,
06:45 and such a jam has come,
06:47 that nothing can happen,
06:48 this is not how it happens.
06:49 Sometimes, when people don't back down,
06:51 the circumstances back them up.
06:53 I would like to say one more thing,
06:55 if you allow me,
06:56 wherever there has been a clash,
06:58 of people and establishment,
07:00 in Egypt,
07:01 establishment has gained control,
07:03 people have lost.
07:04 In Turkey,
07:05 people won,
07:06 establishment lost.
07:08 But in many countries,
07:10 like Yemen, Libya,
07:12 Nigeria,
07:13 and other countries,
07:15 there,
07:16 the country lost.
07:18 So, I am worried that,
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