Kimmech and Tuchel look to beat the odds in Bayern's champions league semi final against Real madrid
Allianz Arena, Munich, Germany
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15:21 in the attacking system, the position of the players.
15:24 You are right back.
15:26 Probably you are going to face Vinicius Júnior,
15:28 but maybe you are going to face Rodrigo.
15:32 Is it a big difference between these two players?
15:35 I assume that you have been watching
15:37 a lot of Real Madrid games recently.
15:40 Yes, that's correct.
15:42 Real Madrid is of course constantly changing position.
15:47 Especially with Rodrigo, Bellingham, Vinicius Júnior.
15:53 You don't always defend one face,
15:58 but it can happen that someone else crosses on his side.
16:03 It would be important for me to keep my position right back
16:08 and not to try to follow a man cover of one or the other player.
16:14 On the other hand, it doesn't matter who comes.
16:18 They are all strong, fast and technically good.
16:21 You can only look forward to it.
16:24 That's all for today.
16:27 Thank you, Joshua. We'll be back with the coach.
16:29 Bye, thank you.
16:30 Thank you.
16:31 Thank you.
16:32 Thank you.
16:33 Thank you.
16:34 Thank you.
16:35, Yeah?
17:05 Okay, welcome back.
17:08 Part two now with our head coach Thomas Tuchel.
17:11 A quick drink, but let's get into position.
17:14 In the middle, the first question from Torben Hoffmann,
17:17 as usual from Sky, please.
17:19 Hi Thomas.
17:25 Hi.
17:26 What's up with Conny Leimer and Delic?
17:31 Are you ready for tomorrow's game?
17:34 And another question.
17:36 Did you have a phone conversation with Uli Hoeneß from Saturday to today?
17:41 I won't say anything more.
17:45 The topic is cut off.
17:46 And the first question, I don't have to swindle or taunt you,
17:53 because you're in training right now.
17:56 But I know it wasn't 100% right now.
17:59 When I drive back to the car,
18:02 we'll run the last checks with Conny, with Mata, with Upa.
18:08 I think Conny is the best fit for training.
18:14 And then we'll see what happens with Leroy and Shamal.
18:18 But I'll find out in the next hour.
18:21 They're always in treatment and now again.
18:24 And that's the situation right now.
18:27 We all have to be patient.
18:29 One before, Hanna Rey for Merkur and TZ.
18:32 To the staff.
18:34 Will there be a last-minute decision for most of them?
18:38 Yes, today for training in any case.
18:41 And for the ones mentioned now.
18:44 For Conny, it's my last chance to try it.
18:48 We'll see.
18:49 For Mata, I think it's a little too early.
18:51 For Upa, my last chance too.
18:53 But maybe something else happened since yesterday.
18:57 So we'll have to wait a little longer.
18:59 And then there will be a few last-minute decisions for Shamal and Leroy.
19:04 Last minute means after the final training today.
19:09 And then to you, to the coaches.
19:12 On the pitch, you like to say in such games,
19:14 the experience decides the players.
19:16 How is it on the sidelines?
19:17 Carlo Ancelotti, do you have an advantage?
19:19 That wouldn't be good.
19:20 Or did you experience everything at some point?
19:22 That wouldn't be good.
19:23 If only the experience decides.
19:25 I don't have a chance.
19:26 Carlo is of course a legend.
19:29 What Carlo has done for football as a player and as a coach,
19:33 is the highest level.
19:35 And at the same time he is always so nice, so courteous and so modest.
19:40 Also in my first meeting with him,
19:42 when I was a complete newbie in the Champions League
19:45 and these meetings always take place super nice, super polite, very modest.
19:50 So that's already extraordinary simple and not high enough to rate.
19:56 He is now again just before the next championship and again in the next semi-final.
20:01 Of course you play against Real Madrid, against experience,
20:04 you play against the jersey, you play against the myth.
20:07 But we will still, the approach will be very in-depth.
20:13 We will prepare today with a tactics meeting.
20:17 We have one day less than Real Madrid in the preparation.
20:21 That's why we have to do the two tactics meetings today and tomorrow
20:25 and will also try to prepare the team for the content.
20:31 And then I think everyone is looking forward to a great game tomorrow.
20:37 Next to Sport1, Stefan Kumberger, please.
20:40 Hello, Torchel.
20:41 Connection question to the coach duel.
20:43 You are someone who has the image of the tactics fox and Carlo Ancelotti,
20:47 you always have the impression that he just sends 11 people to the pitch and lets them do it.
20:52 Is the impression wrong?
20:53 What are the biggest differences between you two?
20:55 I think that's definitely wrong, but that Carlo definitely with his charisma
21:01 and his way and his experience as a player and in his stations,
21:06 this fatherhood is very clear and is one of his great strengths.
21:14 What was the question now?
21:17 The difference between you two.
21:19 I know it's not so detailed and I think it's important that everyone goes their own way
21:26 and stays with themselves.
21:28 Above all, the bigger the occasion, the more important it is that we stay with us.
21:34 I just said we want to stay completely in-depth and not overload the team with it,
21:41 but offer simple solutions.
21:43 But I do believe that there must be solutions and that we find a good mix between discipline
21:49 but also a certain freedom to play a little bit freely on such an occasion.
21:55 It can take a while, it can be a short moment where you think,
21:58 "Oh, now we're just catching the wave."
22:01 You have to make use of these moments.
22:04 But we also have experience, not just me, but we also have experience in the team.
22:09 That's why I think it will be a good mix between anticipation and tension.
22:13 We'll see.
22:14 A row back there. A Spanish colleague, yes?
22:18 Hi Thomas. Robert Lewandowski gave an interview a couple of days ago
22:22 and he named Kylian Mbappe and Jude Bellingham as the best two players in the world.
22:27 I was just wondering what you think of Jude at the moment,
22:30 how he's progressed and his dangers, and whether you'd include Harry within that group as well?
22:35 Harry?
22:36 Kane.
22:37 Harry Kane, yeah, yeah.
22:38 If you need to put players in these groups, I'm not the biggest fan of it
22:43 because I don't like the individual approach of best player
22:49 because there are so many different positions and so many different profiles of players.
22:54 Jude is extraordinary development.
22:57 I mean, he was fantastic here in Bundesliga.
23:00 How he progressed shows the level of personality.
23:04 I think this is only possible with a huge personality.
23:08 Everyone who plays for Real Madrid plays also with the pressure of that shirt,
23:14 plays with the pressure to play for this club and with the demands and the expectations.
23:20 He handles it like he has never done anything else before.
23:26 He's very dangerous and very, very physical in his game.
23:30 He's an absolute key player in a very offensive position.
23:35 We are well aware of it and we try to find solutions tomorrow.
23:39 It's in English as well.
23:43 Oh.
23:44 That's okay.
23:45 Thank you.
23:46 Mr. Tuchel, some would describe you as a tactical genius.
23:49 Now, when you're playing in the semi-final of the Champions League
23:53 against players like Vinicius, Rodrigo, how much can you rely on tactic
23:57 and how much is just the luck of the day?
23:59 Hopefully tactic, hopefully also luck of the day,
24:04 but hopefully also freedom.
24:06 You cannot get-- the bigger the occasion, the bigger the pressure,
24:11 the bigger the stress, you cannot just rely on what you know
24:14 and just think about things like tactical stuff.
24:18 I think you can make always a difference with a tactic and with the approach,
24:23 but the tactic is just the car and the players drive the car.
24:28 So we have to find a good balance, especially in moments like this
24:33 that we show solutions.
24:35 I think that players like to see solutions, players like to have a plan
24:40 and like to have a general idea, and overall they also like
24:44 and need a freedom to live it because this is the most important.
24:49 But as you mentioned, there is no way to play this game
24:52 without the luck of the day.
24:54 If you hit the post, it's the inside of the post, the outside of the post,
24:57 it's a fraction offside, onside.
25:00 You need these little decisions, of course.
25:03 You need the momentum, a bit of luck, and you need the whole package
25:06 if you want to overcome Real Madrid in the semi-final.
25:09 We want to force things to a point where maybe this little luck
25:15 is then the difference, but we cannot rely on it for that.
25:18 It's not big enough, so we have to push it and we feel ready for it.
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25:24 [speaking in German]
25:27 Bayern versus Real Madrid, that's the ultimate Champions League game for you.
25:32 Is this a Bayern fan or, from history, is it really the biggest thing there is?
25:40 I just heard that the most teams have made it to the semi-finals.
25:42 It's a very big and resounding game, there's no doubt about that.
25:47 A worthy semi-final.
25:50 Do I give your son the right to say if it's the biggest thing?
25:54 I think the Bayern fan will speak for him.
25:57 He'll be in Manchester or Liverpool or wherever else,
26:01 where not many fans will find him for the thesis.
26:04 But as a Bayern fan, I understand that.
26:06 That's definitely appropriate for the occasion.
26:11 And the anticipation is huge for us too.
26:15 Then here on the left in the middle, our guests, please.
26:18 Hello, how are you?
26:19 Yes, one second.
26:24 You played a tie against Real Madrid against Chelsea.
26:28 I wanted to ask you what the difference is between that Real Madrid and this one,
26:34 in which some important players have changed and others have arrived.
26:38 And if there are any lessons that I can learn from that day that can still be useful now.
26:44 Thank you.
26:50 It wasn't the first game, but it was the shortest game.
26:55 We played twice with Chelsea, even against Real,
26:58 and also with Paris and Dortmund.
27:02 As for the last game, I think the most obvious change to this game is the staff.
27:10 Benzema is no longer there.
27:13 He was the absolute fix point as number nine
27:16 and shaped this role in a very unique way over the years.
27:23 They actually started that with a little system change.
27:27 Jude Bellingham now plays a kind of 10, 9, 8, 6 role in the staff union.
27:36 And that has definitely changed a bit.
27:40 Nevertheless, of course, many behaviours are the same,
27:44 because it's still Modric, it's still Toni Kroos, it's still Vinicius.
27:48 And the behaviours are still similar,
27:52 but the system has changed a bit
27:55 due to the staff of Jude Bellingham and Benzema,
27:58 because the two are very, very different.
28:01 Basically, I think I mentioned it last week,
28:07 that the task against Real is to bring enough people into the attack
28:16 to hurt them, but at the same time not to disarm them.
28:20 And I have the feeling that there are very narrow margins
28:24 where you can have the feeling that it's not enough,
28:28 we don't have enough players at the front.
28:30 And in the next moment, when maybe one player is only more,
28:32 you have the feeling that it's shaky at the back,
28:35 because now we can be caught in the counterattack.
28:37 So we have to find a good balance.
28:40 And we will try to continue as well as possible.
28:45 Felix Roderer for Antenne Bayern.
28:48 Hello, Mr. Tuchel, a very short question.
28:50 Why are you so convinced that Serge Gnabry will meet tomorrow?
28:53 You mentioned it twice.
28:55 Yes, it will happen.
28:57 I'm telling you, it will happen.
28:58 I don't know how I know it and why, but it's happening.
29:03 No.
29:04 Then one before, please, to Nikolaus Linner for Bild.
29:09 Hello, Mr. Tuchel.
29:15 Yes, you have emphasized several times after Saturday
29:19 that you want to get rid of the topic with Uli Hoeneß
29:23 before this important game tomorrow.
29:25 And that's why you wanted to check again?
29:26 Uli Hoeneß himself handled it differently,
29:29 he said in the kicker that he is up for this criticism.
29:33 And moreover, he wants to be able to do his opinion even more clearly in the future.
29:40 How do you find that?
29:42 What does that do to you?
29:44 Real Madrid.
29:46 There is only Real Madrid left.
29:48 Please look at the game.
29:49 Here in front, a Spanish colleague, a row in front.
29:52 Hello, good afternoon.
29:55 I'm going to ask you in Spanish, Mr. Tuchel.
29:58 My colleague has said that you are a genius of tactics,
30:02 but then he answered a question.
30:05 You said that Bellingham plays with 10, 9, 8, 6.
30:11 I don't know what role Ancelotti has as a genius of tactics
30:14 in that Bellingham has changed so much position
30:17 and changes Madrid in his way of playing.
30:20 He says it's always the big danger of drawers
30:23 that you open them and put someone in
30:25 and then somehow forget to open them again and change his image.
30:28 I don't think Carlo Ancelotti says,
30:33 "Here, guys, find your positions."
30:35 There are clear declines.
30:37 There are clear declines where Toni Kroos makes his build-up.
30:41 There are clear declines where he counter-starts.
30:44 And there is also a very new position for Jude Bellingham,
30:47 which I don't think he has played before.
30:49 That's a mix of a midfield rowdy with four players
30:56 or sometimes a 2-2 with two 6s and two 10s.
31:00 That's very flexible.
31:02 That also adapts to the occasion.
31:05 That sometimes changes in away games to a home game.
31:08 That's why it's very, very mature and totally automated.
31:14 And of course Carlo Ancelotti's handwriting.
31:18 Let's take the last questions from the guest area.
31:21 Right side.
31:22 Hi, Tomas, in English.
31:23 Arthur Quezada, TNT Sports Brasil.
31:26 You said before that you love Brazilian players.
31:29 Unfortunately, you don't have any in Bahia,
31:32 but you are going to face Vinicius and also Rodrigo.
31:37 We used to compare these players
31:39 because they originally are of the same position,
31:44 the left wing,
31:46 but now they have a lot of movements around in the attacking system.
31:51 Which one is worse to predict in terms of face,
31:57 in terms of defence?
31:58 Well, they're both strong.
32:01 They're both a bit different players.
32:03 I agree.
32:04 Rodrigo hurt us a lot with a decisive goal in the Bernabeu, Chelsea.
32:09 So not sure if I like him so much after that.
32:12 But in general, for me, we find Vinicius more on the left side.
32:18 He has his favourite position from the left wing
32:23 to accelerate with the ball.
32:26 It's one-on-ones, one-against-twos,
32:28 fantastic dribbling, fantastic finishing.
32:30 He's very clinical and very decisive.
32:34 While Rodrigo, for me, plays a little bit between a winger,
32:38 sometimes as a nine, sometimes maybe as a half ten.
32:41 Rodrigo's position is, for me, a bit more fluid,
32:44 but also with a lot of speed.
32:46 Very, very good in narrow spaces in the middle of the pitch.
32:51 While for me, Vinicius prefers a little bit the sideline
32:55 to start his actions.
32:57 Yeah, that's basically it.
32:59 And you're right, I had only the very best experience
33:02 with Brazilian players.
33:03 So that's why I said this.
33:05 And it's basically it, no?
33:09 Enough?
33:09 Good.
33:10 The last three questions up here.
33:12 Klaus Bergmann for the DPA first.
33:13 Mr. Tuchel, you said you have personal problems.
33:17 Some players don't know how fit they will be
33:20 or how long they can last.
33:21 How many risks are you willing to take
33:24 to play in a first-team game?
33:27 Can you play four strikers in a starting eleven
33:31 where you know you have to swap them all out?
33:34 And the other question, you were already in the Champions League final.
33:37 You won the Champions League.
33:39 Where do you place these two games now?
33:42 They feel like a final.
33:44 But that's how it was with all the other semifinals.
33:46 The semifinal already feels like a final.
33:48 That's maybe the transition to your first question.
33:51 Tomorrow, too.
33:53 My approach is actually to set it up like a final.
33:58 So four strikers would probably be a bit much in total
34:04 if you only have five substitutions.
34:05 If we knew that none of these players could play through.
34:10 We won't do that.
34:11 But there are different injuries.
34:14 There are different aspects.
34:17 But in the context, I'm actually no one
34:22 who makes the announcement and the lineup tomorrow
34:25 in view of another game.
34:29 The little things are decisive.
34:30 Everything can happen tomorrow.
34:33 With a red card, with an eleven-meter, yes, no.
34:37 The turns can be made.
34:40 I actually want to prepare my team
34:42 to play the game tomorrow without any thought.
34:45 I think it's important to have the freedom
34:49 to make a top game.
34:50 We will try to win the game tomorrow in these 90 minutes.
34:56 Then we know the starting position for the second game.
34:59 But to tacticize tomorrow or that it would have an influence
35:03 on the lineup, no, actually not.
35:09 Next, last row of the camera.
35:11 Hi, Thomas.
35:12 Hi.
35:13 Arbed Hashet from Sports Channel Israel.
35:16 Would a victory against Real Madrid compensate
35:19 for this turbulent season for Bayern and for you personally?
35:24 It would compensate a lot.
35:26 But I'm pretty sure if we make it, we would be very happy,
35:30 but not fully satisfied because our goal is to go to Wembley
35:35 and then, of course, win at Wembley.
35:36 But, yeah, it is already.
35:39 It gave us a lot of confidence in the staff and, of course,
35:43 with the staff and the team, it gave us a lot of confidence
35:46 to eliminate Arsenal, who continued after the defeat here,
35:51 continued to win and are on top of the Premier League
35:53 and showed their quality.
35:55 So that proved a point.
35:57 We proved the point.
35:58 And that gave us a lot of confidence.
36:00 Now is the next step against Real Madrid,
36:02 like you all already said, and we agreed against Real Madrid
36:07 in this competition in a semi-final.
36:09 This is a big stage, so we want to compete
36:11 and we want to push it over the line to be the team to go to Wembley.
36:16 We want to do it, of course, for us and for our hunger
36:20 and for our big goal to Wembley.
36:22 And we will not get any points back in any other competition.
36:27 But this is sports.
36:29 We have to focus now on tomorrow
36:31 and then after that we go the next step in Bernabeu.
36:35 And we need to be well prepared and appreciate the occasion.
36:40 And we will.
36:40 Last one, same place, yeah?
36:42 Thomas, hello.
36:45 FC Bayern has also started a call to its fans.
36:48 How important is the atmosphere or how different is the atmosphere
36:53 in this big game?
36:53 We need an absolute top atmosphere.
36:58 So that was very, very good against Arsenal.
37:01 We need more, of course.
37:03 So that has to be an advantage.
37:05 We will feel the same when we play back in the opposite direction.
37:09 We just need the fans to be there,
37:12 that they breathe the game, that they live the game,
37:15 that they support us in moments when it is difficult,
37:18 that it is also clear for the spectators.
37:20 A won duel, a blocked shot, a run-off counter.
37:24 We just need the maximum support there.
37:28 And to also overcome phases in which we suffer a bit
37:33 or in which we are without the ball.
37:36 And then to support the players,
37:39 to find their rhythm, to find the momentum.
37:41 And that is very clear.
37:44 So we definitely have to create an atmosphere together with the spectators
37:48 that gives us a little advantage.
37:53 Whether it will be decisive, we will see.
37:55 But that is out of the question.
37:57 Thank you very much everyone. See you tomorrow.
37:59 Thank you very much.
38:02 Ciao.
38:03 Thank you.
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38:05 Thank you.
38:06 Thank you.
38:07 Thank you.
38:09 Thank you.
38:10 Thank you.
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