Awam Ne Pakistan Ko Nawaz Kyun Nah Diya?? Sabiq Governor Sindh Muhammad Zubair
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00:00 Mr. Zubair, the current government has tried to give Namaz to Noon League but it has not been granted.
00:09 Now, we have got Technocats.
00:11 So, the current government's setup is visible.
00:14 Of course, Mr. Mohsin Nagbee and Mr. Rana Sinhala talk about this.
00:19 So, the Namaz was not granted or the statement of Namaz 2 was not given.
00:24 After that, the current setup of independence was seen.
00:29 What would you say about this?
00:33 Look, I always believe that this is an essential element in parliamentary democracy.
00:40 When you come to power, your key positions, especially the finance minister,
00:48 I had a strong disagreement with the People's Party or PTI that you are such a big party,
00:53 you don't have your own finance minister.
00:55 You can look at the People's Party.
00:57 The limit is that from 2008 to 2018, there were two finance ministers.
01:03 Both of them were in PTI, Shaukat Tareen and Hafeez Sheikh and they were in the People's Party.
01:09 Now, you tell me, in 2018, PTI is coming to make a new Pakistan.
01:14 What was a new Pakistan? An economic plan.
01:16 And who is coming to implement it?
01:19 Hafeez Sheikh and Shaukat Tareen.
01:20 Who are they?
01:21 The finance ministers of the previous government of the People's Party.
01:24 PML has never done this and it should never happen.
01:28 You pick someone from outside and bring him, he has not made a plan.
01:32 His thinking, his commitment is not with the philosophy of the party.
01:36 And when the government of that party will end, they pick up the briefcase and leave.
01:42 And who will go to the people to answer?
01:44 Ishaq Da will go or other people of the party will go.
01:47 That this was run by Aurangzeb, we had no connection with it.
01:51 So, I am completely with this, and with reference to Mohsin Naqvi,
01:55 people have made sacrifices for the party.
01:57 People, PML is a very big party.
02:00 If you get an interior minister from your party, which is a very, very key position,
02:05 if you don't get that, if you don't get a PCP chairman from your party to appoint someone,
02:10 then it means that your party, before the election, this commitment,
02:14 like Rana Sanaullah said, that we don't accept commitments, we will not do it.
02:20 Then it will be that someone else is doing the commitment, someone else is running it,
02:24 someone else will answer.
02:25 But Irfan Siddiqui is saying that this responsibility will be ours. Listen.
02:30 Whatever the activity of this government will be,
02:32 in reference to Shahbaz Sahib, it will not be written only in the account of Shahbaz Sahib,
02:37 it will be written in the account of PMLN.
02:39 Nawaz Sharif cannot have no connection with him, even if he wants to.
02:43 Yes, Mr. Zubair.
02:45 I totally agree with him. I totally agree with him.
02:48 You see, you made a coalition of 13 parties,
02:51 in the end only PMLN got punished for its 16-month activity,
02:57 People's Party also got out of the fight, all the other parties also left,
03:01 and still it is your choice, right?
03:03 If you cannot make a cabinet of your own, then the people of Pakistan are not responsible for that.
03:09 If you have decided to take over the government,
03:12 then you, 100% whatever team you have, whether you are from inside the party or outside the party,
03:17 responsibility will be that of Mian Nawaz Sharif and Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz.
03:21 Mr. Zubair, you did not answer my question, I wanted to wait for that,
03:26 I said you are a governor, you are on the top positions,
03:29 how much did you make the party active in Sindh,
03:31 that there is a ring from where you can say that the Muslim League Nawaz is in a position to win,
03:36 you were a governor, you were the head of the Board of Investment, you were a private editor.
03:40 I remember the question, I remember the question, Hassan.
03:45 In 2018, PM LN did not get any seat, neither at the national level nor at the provincial level.
03:50 But first let me tell you the facts that Shibaz Shiv was winning the election from Baldia,
03:55 and how he was overturned is another thing.
03:59 There were at least 3 seats of the provincial assembly in Karachi,
04:02 similarly 2 were in his circle, which were under Shibaz Shiv,
04:06 and 1-2 more were there which PM LN was winning.
04:09 If you want to know about my responsibility, that I had to deliver,
04:15 that PM LN gave me such an important position,
04:19 but you should also take an internal look at PM LN's leadership,
04:23 you know it very well.
04:25 This election campaign was over,
04:27 not a single leader came for half an hour,
04:29 for half an hour, Sindh is the second largest province of Pakistan,
04:33 2 months before the election, you made a person who has no political background,
04:39 a president of Sindh.
04:41 I am not blaming him, by the way I have never blamed him.
04:45 If you don't come to run the campaign for half an hour,
04:49 if you don't go to Lahore, for half an hour, all the leadership,
04:53 and I am not talking about the top leadership,
04:56 you can talk about Saad Rafiq, Ayaad Saadiq, Hamza Shehbaz,
05:01 if you don't give a person for half an hour, where will the results come from?
05:05 Absolutely right. Chaudhary Ghamsi Khan.
05:08 Mr. Zubair, tell me, first of all,
05:10 Shabaz Shiv is being sarcastic on the government's issue,
05:13 when he has no public support.
05:15 And second, Haider Naqvi said that the elections that were held by the election commission,
05:19 and I consider them right.
05:21 So when he considers them right,
05:23 then what is he discussing with you or someone else?
05:26 Number three, what is the agenda of this government?
05:30 And all the colleagues of Nawaz Shiv, Rana Sinawala, Khurram Dastgir,
05:35 Saad Rafiq, Javed Latif, etc.,
05:38 they are not putting their tongues in their mouths.
05:41 One has said that so much money has been given,
05:44 the other is saying that he is absolutely right.
05:46 And all these are Muslim League NKs.
05:49 And I don't understand what people want to get out of this.
05:52 Where does Nawaz League stand today?
05:56 Before answering this, listen to this montage.
05:59 Mr. Zubair, listen to what is being said about the elections.
06:02 Money was spent in the elections.
06:04 I am talking about my district, I am talking about five seats.
06:07 These rumors are not limited to Shivupra only.
06:10 The whole of Gujarat, the people who fought the elections on the lion's mark of PMLN,
06:14 they are crying on their heads that we have been treated very badly here.
06:18 In Sialkot, our MPs are taking Form 45 with them,
06:22 they are roaming around that we are winning, we have been defeated.
06:26 Mr. Zubair, you have heard Mr. Chaudhary's question.
06:30 Look, there is no doubt that the winning party,
06:35 which is in power right now,
06:38 is getting the most complaints from the people.
06:41 They are getting complaints from the PTI people, I am not saying this.
06:43 But these are big leaders.
06:45 Rana Sunaullah, Forum Dastageet,
06:47 I mean, they have been with PMLN for the last 50 years.
06:51 They have never said anything like this.
06:54 Never.
06:56 The things that are happening now.
06:58 The thing is that if there are such controversial elections,
07:01 and PMLN feels this with its own leadership,
07:04 then this means that these five-year mandates,
07:07 look, the most important thing, Hasan, you understand,
07:11 the people of Pakistan are the most important,
07:14 the most important stakeholders.
07:16 11 crore people are below the poverty line.
07:19 They want to be run by a party which has the mandate.
07:23 Otherwise, we should not even believe in a parliamentary democracy.
07:26 If this is the case, can we deliver to the people with this mandate?
07:31 That is the real question.
07:33 Has there not been an increase in inflation in the last two years?
07:36 And how badly has it been?
07:38 They should go and sit in power again,
07:41 and sit without a mandate.
07:43 Has there been an increase in the difficulties for the people or a decrease?
07:47 So, the PTI government has been in power for more than two years now.
07:51 When we are talking about this,
07:53 we have to own the entire responsibility for the last two years.
07:57 And were we able to deliver? No.
07:59 We do not say that we delivered.
08:01 We say that inflation…
08:03 Because the numbers speak.
08:05 I cannot say from my side that the numbers are lying.
08:08 The numbers are the same. The government of Pakistan is giving.
08:11 Whether it is the number of unemployment,
08:13 whether it is the number of poverty, whether it is the number of inflation,
08:16 whether it is the number of unpaid loans,
08:18 at any other economic level.