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Video Information: Shabdyog session, 05.10.2018, Mumbai, India

Context:
~ How was Jesus related to his Father?
~ Is God compassionate?
~ Does God have qualities?
~ Why has the teacher been extolled more than God?
~ What is God?


Music Credits: Milind Date
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Category

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Transcript
00:00 Why do you unnecessarily want to attribute qualities to him?
00:24 God is not compassionate.
00:27 He is very, very absent, very neutral.
00:47 And that is another reason in continuation of this dialogue, why the teacher has been
00:53 extolled even more than God.
00:58 Because God will never have compassion.
01:05 The teacher may have compassion.
01:07 God will teach you, but without any concern for how you feel.
01:18 God is life and life also teaches, but life teaches in the most merciless and ruthless
01:24 way.
01:25 No, he is not even a sadist.
01:31 Why must you attribute something to him?
01:34 The fact is he does not bother for you.
01:40 Neither does he bother to protect you and you are so inconsequential for him that he
01:47 does not bother even to punish you.
01:52 Towards you he just has the existence and its rules.
02:04 For you he only has the law of Karmphal.
02:10 Neither is he being compassionate nor is he being a sadist.
02:22 He just doesn't bother.
02:31 When Jesus was on the cross, for once he looked towards the heavens and said, "Father, what
02:36 are you getting done to me?" and then he realized, "Oh no, he anyway won't listen."
02:44 He said, "Fine."
02:54 It's a very interesting phase in the Bible.
02:57 Jesus looks at God and he says, "What are you getting done to me?
03:02 I was your messenger.
03:04 I was bringing the truth to them and it's hurting, it's hurting badly."
03:20 And after that he doesn't complain.
03:29 In fact he just says, "Is it possible for you to give these people a waiver from the
03:46 law of Karma?"
03:49 "Father, don't punish them.
03:52 Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing."
03:57 He very well knows that father is neither positive nor negative.
04:03 You do bad, you suffer.
04:08 Father doesn't make you suffer.
04:11 You do good, you gain freedom.
04:15 Father doesn't give you freedom.
04:19 And seeing that the people were hell bent on sinning, he just prayed, "Can they be
04:28 given some kind of an exemption?
04:31 Because for certain, according to the laws set by you, these people are now going to
04:36 suffer badly."
04:37 Even the exemption didn't come.
04:43 Those who crucified Jesus actually suffered very badly.
04:47 One of them committed suicide.
04:56 That city remained in dark for very very long.
05:06 And entire Christianity is still repenting for its sin.
05:18 There is just one exemption that he makes and even he does not really make.
05:28 It looks like an exemption.
05:29 I'll explain why.
05:31 The exemption that he makes is in the form of a friend who can help you where you are.
05:39 Otherwise he is totally neutral, you could say indifferent.
05:45 In the language of spirituality, you call that as supreme witnessing.
05:52 Let things happen, I don't bother.
05:55 He is the supreme witness of all creation and the witness does not participate.
06:05 The exemption that he makes is in the form of, as we said, a friend who can be useful
06:11 to you.
06:12 But even that is not really an exemption.
06:15 Because friends are anyway available.
06:23 It depends on you to be receptive to them.
06:31 Those friends are called as friends, sometimes lovers.
06:36 Another name for such a friend is the teacher, the guru.
06:43 You could say guru is the grace of God but even saying that won't be exactly right.
06:52 Because if he is graceful, then his grace is anyway in abundance and everywhere, that
06:58 which you call as grace.
07:05 You have to be prepared to receive that grace.
07:08 So who then is the guru?
07:11 Guru is your receptivity to grace.
07:18 The form in which you want to receive grace is called the guru.
07:30 And the form can vary.
07:37 Because you are variable.
08:01 There are no two versions of the crucifixion event and even if there are versions, they
08:26 are not greatly at odds with each other.
08:28 What are you talking about?
08:33 Obviously, if you look at the utterances of Jesus, he is repeatedly trying to take you
09:02 beyond the body.
09:06 At times you will wonder whether it is Christ or Krishna.
09:18 Man does not live by bread alone.
09:21 What is he pointing at?
09:25 What is he pointing at?
09:29 And there are dozens of such utterances there.
09:37 In fact, very powerful, very unsettling, really explosive statements.
09:56 It will be very very easy for you to draw a direct correspondence between Upanishads
10:15 and the words of Jesus.
10:18 In fact, if you are missing it, that would be a wonder.
10:46 Yes, yes, yes.
10:50 Nobody goes to the father but through me.
10:57 I am the truth, the light and the way.
10:59 Nobody goes to the father but through me.
11:01 Yes, that's what Jesus is saying.
11:07 Who is Jesus?
11:11 When Jesus says that you have to go to the father through me, who is Jesus?
11:16 Jesus is your helper on the earth.
11:24 You cannot go to him except through a helper on earth.
11:30 Obviously, Jesus does not mean the body of Jesus.
11:36 The body of Jesus is nowhere to be found.
11:39 So who is Jesus then?
11:40 When Jesus says you can go to him only through me, who is Jesus?
11:46 Whosoever is there helping you out is Jesus.
11:53 Jesus is saying exactly what Kabir Sahab has said.
12:01 Of course.
12:02 Except that there are too many doors now.
12:32 I was in Lucknow.
12:38 So to Gansu to the Imam Bala, come.
12:47 See the Bhool Bhulaiya.
12:52 So from the ground level there is one direct way to the top and then there is a labyrinth,
12:58 the Bhool Bhulaiya.
13:01 And in that there are hundreds of doors.
13:05 But most of the doors take you to a dead end and also waste your time and energy.
13:29 If you can take the direct route, even the Guru is not needed, the earthly friend.
13:37 But if you have entered the maze, the labyrinth, then you do require a guide to take you through.
13:53 Don't want to call him a guide, call him a helper or a friend or just a well-wisher,
14:08 whatever.
14:14 Even today I carry lots of books with me.
14:20 Don't really get the time to read.
14:23 But even if I am able to throw a glance at one of the random pages, it is good and auspicious.
14:39 Yesterday itself I bought a lot of books.
14:43 Won't be able to really read them.
14:50 But it's nevertheless always good to have a well-wisher with you.
15:01 Because the presence is auspicious.
15:29 [music]

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