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Professor Clarita Carlos, House of Representatives' chief policy adviser on security matters, talks to PrimeTimes with Atty. Lia on her insights regarding the West Philippine Sea, Charter Change, and the importance of using artificial intelligence in health, education and agriculture.
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Professor Clarita Carlos, House of Representatives' chief policy adviser on security matters, talks to PrimeTimes with Atty. Lia on her insights regarding the West Philippine Sea, Charter Change, and the importance of using artificial intelligence in health, education and agriculture.
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00:00 [MUSIC PLAYING]
00:05 Welcome to another enlightening episode of Prime Times
00:07 with Attorney Lia.
00:09 We are beyond grateful for having a guest,
00:12 not only because of her capacity to serve our country,
00:15 but also as a woman with grit and mettle
00:18 to not withstand anything that is set before her.
00:21 It is with my great pleasure to introduce Secretary Clarita
00:25 Carlos.
00:26 Good morning, ma'am.
00:27 Hi, good morning, Lia.
00:29 Ma'am, when you were growing up, did you really
00:32 feel that you would want to be the woman that you are right
00:36 now, or you had other plans?
00:38 Well, I really didn't have big plans,
00:41 because I was just swinging it all the way,
00:43 and studying very hard, and just wanting
00:47 to be a scientist all the time.
00:49 Although it has just always been my dream
00:52 to be a scientist, which scientist I really don't know,
00:54 and I ended up to be a social scientist.
00:57 Ma'am, being a social scientist, can you explain briefly,
01:01 what is being a social scientist,
01:04 and what is its impact in our society nowadays?
01:08 There are two kinds of scientists,
01:10 depending on the issue area that you're investigating.
01:13 The natural scientists are the ones working in the laboratories.
01:17 They're not talking about human behavior.
01:21 They are using reagents.
01:24 They're chemists.
01:26 But the social scientists really have a very delicate subject
01:31 matter, subject area, and that's the human being.
01:34 That's the reason why social scientists rarely
01:37 make any declaration, and if at all,
01:39 their declarations are usually tentative declarations,
01:43 because at any point, they can be countered by better data,
01:48 better empirical evidence.
01:49 And that's how it is.
01:51 The scholarship of any science, for that matter,
01:54 would be such that it's always open to falsifiability.
01:58 As a prominent figure on international relations,
02:02 what do you see as best practices for women
02:05 who want to go to your line of work?
02:08 Because not many of our women
02:13 are going straight to this line,
02:15 and you are one of the few who had the grit,
02:19 who had the mettle to actually be there
02:22 and provide impact to our countrymen in your work.
02:26 So what do you think are the best practices,
02:29 or what would you advise to those who want to enter
02:33 that line of work, ma'am?
02:35 First of all, we are a country, Lia,
02:39 that we're so far ahead in terms of the gender issue.
02:42 In fact, it is not an issue at all.
02:44 Gender doesn't matter.
02:45 But still, the real politic tells us
02:47 that you will have to confront resistance to being a woman,
02:51 being a civilian, and that's the first resistance
02:54 that I confronted when I became president
02:56 of the National Defense College in 1998.
02:59 And most people were betting there
03:01 that Carlos wouldn't last two weeks.
03:04 You know, that he would die.
03:06 And I proved them wrong.
03:07 I was there for three and a half years,
03:09 for a tenure of six years,
03:11 which I cut short for many valid reasons,
03:13 which I will not discuss now.
03:15 And then, of course, when I became NSA,
03:17 again, it became an issue of gender.
03:20 I was not military. I was civilian.
03:23 And again, I proved them wrong.
03:25 Gender does not matter.
03:26 Gender is not a predictor variable.
03:29 That's the reason why we don't even have glass ceilings.
03:31 You know, we have how many presidents have we had
03:34 who are women?
03:35 And did it matter to us? No.
03:37 Because you can be a woman and you can be a mediocre person.
03:40 You can be a man and you can be a mediocre person.
03:43 Gender does not matter, really.
03:45 I have to agree on that, Secretary Carlos,
03:48 because people still think that gender is still an issue,
03:53 but in reality, it's never an issue.
03:56 It's how you are as a person and how you contribute.
03:59 So, ma'am, my next question.
04:00 I'm sure not all men will be able to answer this.
04:06 We're hoping that you can give us a clear answer about this.
04:10 Ma'am, with the ongoing disputes in the West Philippine Sea,
04:13 how do you assess the current administration?
04:16 Now, President BBM's approach to safeguarding Philippine interests in the region
04:21 and what strategies would you recommend moving forward?
04:25 Well, even while I was NSA, I already had taken the view that
04:32 continuing conflict based on territory and sovereignty
04:36 will not get us anywhere.
04:38 Why?
04:39 Because the undergirding of the kinds of things that, you know,
04:46 separate us, that divide us as humans,
04:50 would be territory and sovereignty, which can never be resolved.
04:53 Why?
04:54 Because the land, the airspace, the waters, they cannot be divided.
04:59 It is only us.
05:00 It is only the Europeans who introduced the concept of nation state.
05:05 I think you know that Leah, being a lawyer,
05:08 in the treaties of Westphalia, where they said that from now on, you know,
05:12 you have nation states and the nation states will be bound by myths and bounds
05:16 of this latitude, this longitude.
05:19 But before then, there was no such concept of nation state.
05:21 That's the reason why, you know, our ancestors really were just, what,
05:29 fishing in the South China Sea, fishing in the Salu waters,
05:33 and the Kalimantan, Indonesia, Malaysia, they were adjoining areas.
05:40 They were not really political entities.
05:43 So where am I going?
05:45 It is only the concept of the nation state that put us into this, you know,
05:51 fulcrum of conflict so that we are quarreling over the seas.
05:56 We stupid people are dividing the South China Sea into six, you know.
06:00 When we know that the fish are in, they think of themselves as just one ecology,
06:06 one ocean.
06:07 So where are we going with this?
06:09 I think the president, because I know that coming in as his NSA,
06:14 is being buffeted by both domestic and foreign forces.
06:18 And he's doing his darndest best to really balance our national interest,
06:24 vis-a-vis our security interest, vis-a-vis our economic interest.
06:28 And that's a very, very difficult balance to, you know, to sustain,
06:33 let alone, you know, to be the basis of long -- of medium to long-term policies.
06:38 So what is to be done?
06:41 First of all, we don't want to go to war with China, or with anyone,
06:45 for that matter.
06:46 Second of all, we don't want to be the appendage of the United States of
06:49 America, and we don't want to be, you know,
06:52 the one in between the two major powers, China and the U.S.,
06:58 because they want to go to war, let them go to war in their own territories.
07:02 Okay.
07:03 So I think our red lines are quite clear.
07:06 Bongbong Marcos already said Taiwan is the province of China.
07:09 I mean, how much more categorical can he be?
07:12 Also, President Bongbong Marcos also declared that the EDCAS sites cannot be
07:16 used by any power as take-off points for any of their adventures.
07:20 How much more categorical can he be?
07:22 So, yeah, let's all -- let's move away from territory and sovereignty.
07:26 I mean, we'll all be dead and we cannot resolve that issue.
07:29 And let's move into the low politics area of people-to-people exchanges,
07:33 cooperation among marine scientists, and the like.
07:36 Sek, you mentioned about Taiwan and, you know,
07:40 the existing conflict between Taiwan and China, right?
07:44 Ma'am, of course, they are our neighbors here in our country.
07:49 They give, you know, employment facilitation towards our kababayans.
07:53 Ma'am, do you see any light soon between Taiwan and China?
07:59 And if yes or no, how can we still uphold our national interests in both the
08:07 countries without, you know, being biased towards one over the other?
08:12 So I said, let's just go back to the categorical declaration of our one-China policy.
08:18 Taiwan is the province of China.
08:20 When Chiang Kai-shek was defeated by Mao Zedong, he ran to Formosa.
08:25 It's also called Taiwan.
08:27 Why will he run to Formosa?
08:29 Because Taiwan is a province of China.
08:32 Otherwise, if China were an alien country, why would Chiang Kai-shek go there?
08:36 Okay?
08:37 There are many, many historical and other legal basis for why Taiwan is a part of China.
08:44 So if you will content analyze the views of Deng Xiaoping, Xi Jinping now,
08:53 know that Taiwan was never an issue for that matter.
08:56 They were willing to wait.
08:58 And you know, you have a 5,000-year nation here.
09:02 They are willing to wait.
09:04 But who was the one needling them not to wait but to, you know,
09:08 undertake other means for Taiwan to be part of the mainland?
09:13 It's the United States of America because I'm sure we don't need an IQ of 140 to know
09:18 that the US does not want China to rise.
09:21 Let us continue to uphold what our president and previous presidents have declared.
09:26 Taiwan is a province of China.
09:28 Ma'am, do you think there have been rise in our foreign policy developments here in our country
09:37 ever since our president, President Bongbong Marcos Jr., was elected?
09:41 The way I see it, because foreign policy is not something which is written in granite.
09:47 Foreign policy is like a constitution.
09:50 It's a living thing.
09:51 In other words, you are going to navigate your way through.
09:55 You are going to calibrate it according to certain broad strokes.
09:59 That's the reason why you have what is called a national strategy.
10:01 You have red lines.
10:02 Okay.
10:03 So I think what is happening right now, if you recall,
10:05 at the start of the president's administration, he declared quite categorically,
10:10 again, China is a friend, a neighbor, and a partner.
10:14 I mean, how much more categorical can that be again?
10:17 And Xi Jinping, if you will recall, I think about a week ago at the conclusion
10:21 of the National People's Congress, also declared,
10:23 "We are advocating shared resources, shared prosperity, shared future."
10:29 So where's the beef?
10:31 Where are the shared resources?
10:33 It's like you're the only one fishing there and we're not getting a single fish.
10:37 So, you know, I'm exaggerating to make a point.
10:40 The point is you declare a fishing holiday.
10:42 [Indiscernible]
10:44 That's the reason why, Lea, I would like to introduce your audience.
10:50 I am writing a book on regional fishing agreement.
10:52 I'm sure you know it's worth, as a lawyer,
10:56 you present a legal framework for all the claimants on the East and the South China Sea,
11:01 and that is the one they will talk about, fish, about sea plants, you know,
11:05 about the ocean and its ecology.
11:08 They will not talk about territory and sovereignty.
11:11 They will talk about the ocean, which is one ocean, one ecology.
11:16 Do you see the difference in the philosophical undergirding here?
11:19 Not only that, in my continuing conversation with people from the Chinese embassy here,
11:25 I just keep on pounding on their head that let us move away from the verb "own."
11:30 Let us move towards to protect, to take care of, from ownership to stewardship.
11:36 And, Lea, you see the legal implication of that when you move from protecting the ocean,
11:42 the airspace, the land, into owning it.
11:45 Don't deny it. Don't go there.
11:47 Tech, what you said is so beautiful about ownership as opposed to stewardship.
11:53 Because at the end of the day, no one really would own our natural resources.
11:59 We are here to ward over it.
12:01 So now, if we talk about ecology, everyone can provide that.
12:08 Everybody can be provided with the resources that the ocean can give.
12:11 So rather than owning and creating beef, why don't we unite and protect one another
12:20 or protect only the resources that this ecology can give?
12:25 That's so beautiful, Ma'am. I think this would be good to talk about further.
12:29 Because ownership versus stewardship, and that is a very intellectual input to give.
12:35 Our fellow countrymen don't know, okay, they just know that China is fighting, the Philippines is fighting.
12:41 But at the end of the day, who benefits from the fight?
12:46 It's just confusing, Ma'am.
12:48 So Ma'am, as I understand, you are working now at the House of Representatives, correct Ma'am?
12:54 Yes, that's right.
12:55 Ma'am, how different is it working for the House of Representatives and that of other facets of the government now?
13:03 Because I really want to know as a person, Ma'am, how do you handle the transitions that you have been presented all throughout your life?
13:10 So now, how is it, National Government Agency, as to the House of Representatives,
13:16 is there a difference towards the people you work with or the work that you are given?
13:22 What is the difference, Ma'am, for Kalarita Carlos?
13:25 Maybe similarities first.
13:27 Similarity would be I'm still working on the issue areas of foreign policy, defense, and security.
13:32 Difference would be that before I would give my memos to the President, to Bongbong Marcos,
13:38 now I give my memos to Speaker Martin because he is my only principal because I am chief policy advisor on security matters.
13:47 In terms of difference of the environment to work, I think that's a huge difference because the NSC environment is so toxic, you know.
13:58 Like I'm sure you know, Leah, that everybody just wants to get rid of me from day one.
14:04 So, they are happy now because I'm not there anymore.
14:07 I'm also happy in the House of Representatives because I have an office there
14:12 and I have a very good relationship with the Speaker and many of the 350 legislators.
14:18 I feel so useful there as a scholar and as a foreign policy research person.
14:27 I'm happy where I am.
14:29 We can see that the decisions of President Bongbong Marcos have been garnering support all around the world with regard to foreign policy decisions.
14:38 We are really listening to our President.
14:42 Ma'am, my question to you is, do you think our President and that of his family and that of his cabinet, are they pressing the right buttons?
14:53 Because there are still four years, President Bongbong Marcos and his cabinet.
15:01 Ma'am, in your opinion, are they pressing the right buttons that will make our country more prosperous towards betterment of our countrymen?
15:11 I've seen the President for six and a half months when I was in cabinet.
15:14 He's a very hard worker.
15:15 Sometimes, we have four hours of cabinet meetings and he doesn't seem tired.
15:21 He's a very decent person.
15:22 He doesn't raise his voice.
15:23 He knows how to speak.
15:25 And maybe that's also one of his handicaps because he's too kind.
15:29 I'm sure without naming names, Lia, a lot of people around him are just marching in place.
15:39 I hope he will have a vision to replace those people.
15:46 He should start kicking ass and really change those people who are non-performing assets, the NPAs that we call.
15:54 I'm sorry to be cruel but that's how I read it.
15:57 You are just being honest, Secretary Carlos.
15:59 Ma'am, given your expertise in international relations, how do you evaluate the current administration's handling of diplomatic relations with key allies and neighboring countries?
16:09 Not those who have conflicts.
16:11 Do you think we are still taking care of our friendship or do we handle further that we can hone harmony amongst our neighboring regions and that of our allies?
16:26 Talking of allies, I think we should really focus on the ASEAN.
16:30 Because the ASEAN 9, we are ASEAN 10.
16:34 We grew up together as newly independent countries and facing challenges together.
16:41 Sometimes having misunderstandings and the like and so on.
16:46 So I think we should keep on pushing ASEAN to move towards not only regional cooperation but regional integration.
16:52 That's the reason why I gave a book to both Speaker Martin and President Bumbong, my book on ASEAN Parliament.
17:00 Because the ASEAN Parliament will provide the legal framework for regional legislation that will govern the relationship among the ASEAN 10.
17:10 Talking about our allies, I'm sure you've heard that yesterday I think they announced that Biden has invited President Bumbong and Fumio Kishida to Washington, D.C. to talk about maybe security matters.
17:24 And I was wondering why Biden is doing this.
17:27 He has invited months ago South Korea, Yun, and Fumio Kishida, Japan, for also a Camp David summit leading to a trilateral security pact.
17:40 He did not invite our president.
17:42 And I've been asking the question now.
17:45 Now he's inviting the president and they have a troika now with Japan, Philippines, and the U.S.
17:50 So why not just if the U.S. wants to put beef in what it's declaring verbally, why not a quadrilateral security pact?
17:59 Japan, South Korea, Philippines, and the U.S.
18:02 And why not adopt Article 5 of NATO instead of the half-baked mutual defense treaty?
18:08 Why not Article 5 of the NATO which is automaticity in the response?
18:14 How do you think the Philippines can have a bigger role in our ASEAN position?
18:23 And how can we promote stability in the Asia-Pacific region?
18:28 Because we were just talking about, okay, let's focus on something that can really benefit others.
18:34 And I think our membership in the ASEAN can really do that.
18:38 So, ma'am, in your opinion, can we have a bigger role in our ASEAN membership?
18:44 And how can we promote stability and further good relations towards that?
18:49 You should read my dedication in that book on ASEAN Parliament when I gave it to President Bongbong.
18:54 I said, I even remember because I wrote it while I was there in the cabinet before I gave it to him after the meeting.
19:01 And I said, you should be the leader of Southeast Asia.
19:04 You should be the leader of ASEAN.
19:06 Because, you know, during the time of his father, the first Marcos, when Marcos speaks,
19:11 and he usually speaks extemporaneously, he sets aside his, you know, the speeches given to him.
19:19 Everybody listens. Even Lee Kuan Yew cannot have, you know, any say.
19:25 So that's how we are. And we are going still to be the, we have a very, very good opportunity to be the leader of Asia.
19:34 Joko Widodo already has finished his term. You have a new one who's the former defense minister.
19:40 There is no one in the horizon really who could be the leader of ASEAN or Southeast Asia for that matter.
19:46 We should be that leader. How do we do it? With great difficulty.
19:49 But if we get the president and those around him have the political commitment and courage to do it, we can do it. Why not?
19:56 So, Carlos, do you think we are ready to be a leader of the ASEAN, within the ASEAN, ma'am?
20:02 Do you think the Philippines is ready?
20:04 Getting ready is not a state of things. Getting ready is, you know, it's like a gerund. It's an ing thing.
20:10 So that means we have the world without, we have the peak most mineralized countries in the world.
20:14 We are rich, actually, natural resources-wise. We are rich human resources-wise.
20:18 We have millions of, you know, professionals like you, me, scholars, scientists, et cetera.
20:24 Put them all together and we can be the leader of Southeast Asia.
20:28 Ma'am, do you think it's hard for our president to handle the present issues and concerns of our country?
20:36 Because ma'am, when he went in, he was not given, you know, this is what we will do, this is what we will do.
20:42 Because problems arise every day. We knew problems arise every day, challenges, difficulties.
20:49 But ma'am, do you think it's hard for our president?
20:53 And if so, how do you think he can reduce the difficulties he is experiencing?
21:01 And if he is not having a hard time, what do you think he can do to make his colleagues' work easier?
21:10 Around not only Malacanang, but everybody in government.
21:14 Which is in one person. Here, it's really so, so difficult. You have too many things on your plate.
21:19 And, you know, like every minute seems to be like a mini crisis, which becomes a major crisis and suddenly, you know, explodes in your face.
21:26 But if the president has the broad strokes, the basic fundamental principles of how we shall govern,
21:33 then he can, in fact, assign, delegate to his lieutenants what needs to be done.
21:39 But as I have to repeat what I said earlier, I hope the president will start kicking ass
21:45 and really replace those people who are not really performing and, you know,
21:50 no longer have any innovation and creative things in their mind, just marching in place.
21:55 Because, you know, we can blaze ahead and really be one of the emerging economists.
21:59 I mean, look at our economic fundamentals, which was just reported yesterday.
22:03 They're all glowing and they're all green. So what are we doing?
22:08 But there are some really rogues in government, those who are not performing, those who are just marching in place.
22:14 And I'm sure the president knows that. So, yeah, it's really a big, big task to have this 110 million Filipinos.
22:23 But the president has to be helped by us. After all, the government doesn't have any authority except those that we, in fact, we, the people, have given.
22:33 So, you know, for as long as he is the trust, he's just rating is still fairly high.
22:38 I think it is in the upper 40s. And I think that's good.
22:45 In agriculture, perfecting the value chain and so on, like in energy, getting it, you know, more accessible as well as more affordable for people like us and the like.
22:57 But, yeah, there are too many moving parts. So, yeah, maybe, you know, in the first meeting,
23:03 I remembered that the president declared that he wanted to right size government.
23:08 But immediately I interjected there and I said, Mr. President, no one will abolish himself or merge with another agency and the like, which is what right sizing is all about.
23:17 It has to be done by an external agency. And I can see that there is legislation being now.
23:23 I think it's now moving to the Senate from the House where there is one agency in government which will be in charge of that.
23:29 No one agency of government cannot be in charge of bureaucratic reform. It has to be done by an external entity. And I continue to avert that.
23:36 I don't know if it was yesterday or the other day ago, but it was said that on third reading, the charter changed, ma'am.
23:45 May I know, ma'am, your opinion or your input or insight that our fellow countrymen can learn towards that?
23:54 Ma'am, do you think that this has the support of our legislators both in the House and in the Senate?
24:01 And as I understand, the president himself wanted to have the charter change done.
24:05 So in your intellectual opinion, ma'am, in your most honest opinion, do you think this would fly?
24:12 Do you think this would be done expediently? Do you think that this would really impact positively towards our fellow countrymen?
24:19 Just a little bit of history in response to your excellent question.
24:24 1935 Constitution was done when we were still under American occupation.
24:28 If you will notice, we have a lot of Kenopias in the American Constitution.
24:31 Even our bicameral, we should not have a Senate. We should have Kenopias.
24:35 We have a lot of Kenopias that are not in line with our political culture, our socio-political culture.
24:41 Then after 1935, what's next? 1973? Of course, before 1935, the grandfathers.
24:48 After 1973, then you have 1987.
24:51 Constitutions are living documents.
24:53 They're not really written in granite and they're immovable things.
24:57 They are living documents.
24:59 At the time they were crafted, they reflect the political, the social, the economic environment at the time.
25:05 Therefore, when those aspects of your environment have changed, isn't the time to change also the Constitution?
25:12 A lot of things have changed.
25:16 A lot of things that we put in our Constitution was supposed to be a part of the globalized world, Leah.
25:22 And yet, we put a lot of things in there, all Filipino first.
25:26 Filipino first policy is at the time we were decolonizing our minds and things on the ground.
25:32 So, Filipino first.
25:34 I said, right now, whoever provides us the best services, they can be from Jupiter, just to exaggerate and make a point.
25:43 It's the one who cares about ownership.
25:46 Does it matter to you, Leah? I don't care about ownership.
25:48 I care about efficient and effective service.
25:51 Do you think this law will pass faster?
25:55 My concern really is that it will be questioned in the Supreme Court.
25:59 Whether a resolution by both houses, if it is passed, may in fact have the effect of amending some parts of the Constitution.
26:08 Because you can amend it.
26:10 Really?
26:11 Yes.
26:12 But I hope, the ideal situation for me, what I really want is really a revision of the Constitution.
26:17 When you see that it's already infirmed, don't just let one part be your own.
26:21 Because if you let the economic be your own, it will be a political partner.
26:26 I have to agree with you also, ma'am, on one facet that you just said.
26:29 It is time for change.
26:32 We cannot really be stuck on something archaic.
26:35 We have to have innovation.
26:37 And I think, ma'am, as a leader, you provided that innovation when you were in the NSA, when you were helping out, ma'am, with the House.
26:46 So my next question, ma'am, is, in your opinion, over the next four years, will our President's goals and objectives be fulfilled?
26:58 Not only with the foreign policy developments, but also with his overall vision when he was seated as President.
27:08 Four years is a long time.
27:11 We're talking 1,400 days.
27:14 It's a long time.
27:15 There's a lot more that can be done.
27:17 But if you have a list of priorities, let's go back to what I said earlier, let's fix the bureaucracy.
27:24 The overlap, the duplications, the unclear lines of authority, the confusion of the authorities.
27:30 What you said earlier is correct.
27:32 As you amend, you're in fact revising.
27:34 As a lawyer, you know the moment you change the power configuration of any entity, you are revising already.
27:41 So let's not quibble about that.
27:44 So let's go through the constitutionally provided for initiative, constituent assembly, and constitutional convention.
27:55 Any of those three should be the avenue by which you revise the constitution.
28:01 As I said, do it incrementally.
28:04 If you want, you can prioritize the economic, but you should follow it politically and socially because it will be a clash.
28:10 Do you think there's still a lot of corruption in our government?
28:12 Yes.
28:13 Because you know corruption, I saw it when I was President of the National Defense College.
28:17 You won't see corruption until you're not an insider.
28:21 Maybe you should make it known.
28:23 Maybe you know the mitts and bounds of the whistleblower.
28:27 Let's correct what the person who said how corruption is happening.
28:31 I'm sure you've served in several government positions, right?
28:34 You won't see it if you're not an insider.
28:36 Corruption is like a tree.
28:40 You just cut it and the leaves fall.
28:44 You need to pull it.
28:46 You need to pull the root.
28:49 And you should really put a person in jail.
28:52 Because no one will put you in jail.
28:54 How important do you think transparency and accountability are in this government?
28:59 Because it's a fairly young government.
29:02 It's only two years, right?
29:04 So how do you think more transparency, more accountability?
29:08 You said that there are people who can be put in jail.
29:12 Do you think our President and this government can still provide the transparency and accountability that is needed?
29:20 We'll keep on confronting these two issues.
29:23 After all, transparency and accountability are the two hallmarks of democracy.
29:27 Without that, we're not a democracy.
29:30 So what do you do?
29:32 As much as possible, although it will create unemployment as an intended consequence,
29:37 is to reduce human intervention.
29:39 If you reduce human intervention, that's why it's important that you don't touch artificial intelligence.
29:44 Yes.
29:45 Generative artificial intelligence.
29:47 But yes, this is a new technology.
29:49 Let us ride on the train.
29:51 Let us make use of it.
29:52 Artificial intelligence is really beautiful because our research work is already in the short circuit.
29:59 Instead of doing what other authors have done, what are the other legal decisions in this particular issue area,
30:07 it's already there.
30:08 Of course, it's simply a guide to you.
30:10 But you have the lay of the land.
30:12 So let's make use of AI.
30:13 AI is so great for diseases.
30:17 Their meta-analysis.
30:19 Imagine you have thousands of cancer research there, put them all together,
30:25 and AI will look at what has been done and what are the predictor variables in life.
30:30 I'm so, so fascinated by AI.
30:33 Even if I'm the fourth quarter of my life, I really would like to see that to help us with health, with education, particularly with agriculture.
30:45 Agriculture is my favorite because I come from a family of farmers in Ilocos.
30:51 So when I see that AI is helping the flourishing of agriculture, I'm jumping up and down.
31:00 First of all, we are hardworking people.
31:02 That's our biggest attribute, that we are hardworking.
31:07 And let's put technology in that hard work.
31:11 Let's help AI because it's already there.
31:15 This is the best copy.
31:17 AI is open-sourced, of course, you buy it from other sources.
31:23 Let's ride on the train of technology because it will help really better the quality of human life.
31:30 As a last note, it is judicial notice how much I admire you, not only as a public servant.
31:39 You know that, ma'am, I have always told you directly.
31:42 You make me angry, you chastise me.
31:46 Secretary Clarita Carlos, for everyone's information, she's not the one who will judge.
31:52 If you're wrong, you're wrong.
31:54 And she says that to me.
31:56 So now, ma'am, I really want our countrymen to know.
32:01 Can you give me, ma'am, who Clarita Carlos is with three adjectives?
32:07 Persistent, intelligently arrogant.
32:12 I would like to resent arrogance because being confident and intellectual
32:21 and actually knowing the needs and bounds of that, in yourself, is not arrogance.
32:26 But actually, it's being aware of what you can share to others.
32:30 Yeah, but that's the best part about the scholarship.
32:34 I'm sure you know that.
32:35 Yes, ma'am.
32:36 If you have data behind you, data is king.
32:38 Then you shut off your mouth and make your declaration.
32:41 If your data is absent, you shut up.
32:43 It's that simple.
32:45 Perseverance and intelligent.
32:48 And once again, I would like to defer that she is not arrogant,
32:53 but rather she is aware of who she is as a woman and as a person.
32:57 Thank you, Secretary Clarita Carlos, for guesting in our episode.
33:01 We were not only taught foreign policy developments,
33:07 but you also taught us to be kind to serve our fellow countrymen.
33:12 For that, thank you, Secretary Clarita Carlos.
33:15 Thank you very much.
33:16 Great pleasure to be part of your conversation.
33:19 I hope there will be future conversations on security and foreign policy,
33:24 which are the less understood areas of our political life.
33:29 And maybe on a final note, it does not cost much to be kind
33:34 because kindness is the fulcrum of our humanity.
33:37 And this has been another episode of Prime Times with Attorney Lia.
33:41 I wish you all a good day.
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