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00:00 Just like the CAA took so long to roll back the farm laws because of such a lot of backlash,
00:08 if people start coming to the international press and if people come out on the streets,
00:14 will this also be taken back?
00:16 Look, the CAA's law will never go back.
00:20 And ensuring India's citizenship is India's issue, it is India's decision. We cannot compromise with this.
00:32 In 2019, you said to ANI in an interview that the violence that took place at that time,
00:37 the violence that took place because of the CAA, you said that it was a disinformation campaign
00:42 and you were not able to remove that disinformation.
00:46 This time, was the party or the government able to remove it?
00:55 Sumita ji, in the middle, I said 41 times, 41 times, I have talked about this in detail with different stages,
01:04 that minorities of this country or any other person need not be afraid.
01:13 Because in the CAA, it is not important to take away anyone's citizenship.
01:18 The CAA is only for three countries, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
01:27 Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians and Parsi, Jains and Parsi refugees have come.
01:35 They have the right to give their citizenship, so that we can reduce the pain of their lives.
01:43 I will come to the rest of the religions later. First, let's talk about the Muslim community.
01:48 Whether it is Mr. Ovesi or Mamata Banerjee, and many foreign media, they are also saying that it is an anti-Muslim law.
01:56 Because you are not including Muslims. So, is it a criterion that Muslims should not be included?
02:03 It is not like that. You cannot give this law in isolation.
02:08 There is a history of this country. On 15th August 1947, the country was divided.
02:15 The country was divided into three parts. That is the background.
02:20 The Indian People's Union, the Indian People's Party, always opposed the division.
02:26 We never agreed. The division of this country should not have been based on religion.
02:31 It was supposed to be, but it was done.
02:34 When you divide on the basis of religion, and there are many atrocities against minorities,
02:42 when religion is changed, when women are insulted, when they come to India for their mother, sister and daughter,
02:50 then doesn't that give them the right to citizenship?
02:55 Congress leaders themselves have said in hundreds of speeches during their freedom that the path is being taken,
03:01 stay where you are, and whenever you come to India, you are welcome.
03:06 But later, electoral politics started, the vote bank policy started.
03:11 Congress Party never fulfilled the promise that Narendra Modi is fulfilling today because of appeasement.
03:17 The other religions, Hindus, Jains, Buddhists, Sikhs, I agree with all of them.
03:27 They were religions born in India.
03:30 But if you can bring in Parsi and Christians, those religions were not born in India.
03:38 So if you can bring in Parsi and Christians, then why not Muslims?
03:42 See, that part of India is not for the Muslim population.
03:48 That land was given for that.
03:51 Then open the doors of India for the people who want to come from all countries.
03:55 India is not left.
03:57 The people who were part of the unbroken India, and who have been religiously persecuted,
04:04 I believe it is our moral responsibility and our constitutional responsibility to give them shelter.
04:11 And Ms. Smita, you go into the depth of the figure.
04:15 When partition happened, 23% of the population in Pakistan were Hindus and Sikhs.
04:22 Today, 3.7% are left. Where did all of them go?
04:26 So many did not come here.
04:28 Religious persecution.
04:29 Religious persecution. They were insulted.
04:31 They were kept as second-class citizens.
04:34 Where will these people go?
04:37 Will the country not think about this? Will the Parliament not think about this?
04:41 Should the political parties of the country not think about this?
04:44 There is Ahmadi and Marosh in this.
04:47 I will talk about Bangladesh.
04:49 In 1951, the percentage of Hindus was 22%.
04:54 I am talking about 1951.
04:56 We have the figures of 1951 in Bangladesh.
04:58 In the census of 2011, 10% remained.
05:03 Where did those people go?
05:05 Afghanistan.
05:07 Before 1992, I have the figures of 1992.
05:12 Approximately 2 lakh Sikhs and Hindus were there.
05:16 And today, about 500 are left.
05:19 Do these people not have the right to live by their beliefs?
05:25 When India was one, they were ours.
05:30 They are our brothers.
05:31 They are our sisters.
05:33 They are our mothers.
05:35 If you accept this theory, then why did you take so many refugees after the partition?
05:41 Then there is no logic behind it.
05:45 When they get citizenship from the portal, what facilities will they get?
05:50 Will they get citizenship like a common citizen?
05:52 Or will they have to show that they have been given citizenship under the CAA?
05:57 Is this a different identity?
05:59 No, no, no. They will be included in the Indian citizenship list like a common citizen.
06:09 And they will have the same rights as you and me.
06:13 They can fight elections, become MLAs, MPs, Chief Ministers or the Ministers of the Central Government.
06:21 But the foreign media is saying that what you have done one after the other, whether it is triple talaq, 370 or CAA...
06:29 One second. Ask the foreign media if they have triple talaq in their country.
06:33 No.
06:35 Do they have Muslim personal law?
06:38 Do they have provision like 370 in any state in their country?
06:43 But we also have Hindu law.
06:48 Succession law.
06:51 It is Hindu law. It is the civil law of the country.
06:55 People don't know because they have been here for a few years.
06:59 And the composition of the tribal areas will not change because of CAA?
07:05 It will not change at all.
07:07 We are not diluting the composition of the tribal areas and their rights at all.
07:11 We have provided in the Act itself that where there is an inner line permit and the areas included in the sixth list of the constitution,
07:21 CAA will not be applicable there and the application for the address there is not uploaded in the app.
07:29 So there is no question of being applied.
07:32 And there is provision in the Act itself, but we have excluded that area in the application.
07:38 Even if they apply from there, the app will not open.
07:42 But they can apply somewhere else.
07:44 They can become Indian citizens.
07:46 They cannot become citizens of the protected areas in the sixth list of the constitution.
07:54 They cannot become citizens of the protected areas with the inner line permit.
07:59 They can become Indian citizens.
08:01 There was a misunderstanding, miscommunication or confusion that whether CAA will be applicable in Assam or not.
08:10 And is NRC and CAA a crossing or not?
08:15 Look, the NRC order in Assam is of the Supreme Court of India.
08:21 It has nothing to do with CAA.
08:24 CAA will be applicable in every part of the country, not just Assam.
08:27 Only in the north-east states where they have been given two types of special rights.
08:35 The states that come under those special rights will not have CAA.
08:42 There is a provision of inner line permit and there are people's areas included in the sixth list of the constitution.
08:51 In the sixth schedule, some areas of Jammu and Kashmir, some areas of Rajasthan, some areas of Himachal will be included.
09:03 It will not be applicable there.
09:05 It will be applicable everywhere else.
09:07 You said that a second country will be made on the basis of religion.
09:10 But there, Shia, Ahmadi, Baloch are also included.
09:15 That division is not proved so much on the basis of figures.
09:21 And the whole world considers this as a Muslim bloc.
09:25 Please understand me.
09:27 And leave aside Shia, Ahmadi, Muslims also have the right to apply here.
09:34 Our Constitution has opened the way by applying.
09:37 As a refugee?
09:38 No, no, no, not as a refugee.
09:40 They can apply to get citizenship.
09:43 The Indian government will decide on the security of India and other things.
09:50 The road is not closed for anyone.
09:53 This special act has been made because they have come to the border without any valid document.
10:03 They have crossed the border.
10:05 So now you have also opened a portal.
10:08 They will give all the details in it.
10:10 That portal is safe and if someone does not have a document,
10:14 then they are neither a citizen, nor a migrant, nor a refugee.
10:18 What do they become?
10:19 Look, I tell you, those who do not have a document, we will find a way later.
10:25 But those who have a document, they are more than 85% of my population.
10:33 And how long will it take?
10:35 Because they will have to take a vote.
10:37 We have no time limit.
10:40 Everyone can apply easily.
10:43 I appeal to everyone, you can do it easily.
10:46 This application is in all languages of the country.
10:49 You can download it in your language.
10:52 You can apply.
10:53 And with your time, the Indian government will call you for an interview.
10:58 And will call you for an audit of the document.
11:01 And will it be a face-to-face interview?
11:03 Yes, it will be face-to-face.
11:05 You will have to bring the original document.
11:07 And if they are second generation refugees,
11:09 that is, if they have children in India.
11:12 From 15th August 1947 to 31st December 2014,
11:20 whoever has come, they and their children are welcome in India.