Analyzing how San Francisco 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy has changed quarterback scouting.
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00:00 Hearing this a lot now that the combine is coming around, you know Brock Purdy has just
00:05 Completely changed the way
00:08 These teams are scouting these quarterbacks
00:12 The Brock Purdy effect. Yeah, do you buy that?
00:16 well before I give you my answer I
00:19 Want to ask you I think you're the first one who said this right? I've seen a lot of people
00:26 You know say hey, I've been saying this and trying to get a little credit for that take
00:31 This is actually a grant cone original. I believe I think we've been talking about this for a long time
00:36 So I want to give you credit where credit is due
00:38 But I do want to understand this take from you because I'm not sure if we agree on it. So I want to get
00:42 Explain it to me why you say that and wait what you think that means
00:46 Yeah, I don't think people are looking for the next Brock Purdy in the top ten
00:49 That is not what I mean
00:51 But when when people say or when I say he's changed the way team scout quarterbacks. I think he has either reminded them or
00:58 Proven to them the importance of experience in college
01:02 That and I think you hear it a lot now with these quarterbacks. You'll hear it
01:08 Analysts say stuff like he's played a lot of football. He has played a lot of football
01:12 You didn't really hear that with quarterbacks in the past what they would talk about is
01:15 Their physical skill set the scheme they were in in college and maybe how old they are
01:21 That was pretty much it and now it's all about like man the guys played so much in the past. They'd be like he's old
01:28 Yeah, 23
01:30 24 there's really no upside here. But now I think not just maybe the Brock Purdy effect
01:35 But the Trey Lance effect the how diff how hard it is for most teams to develop quarterbacks on the bench
01:41 Packers seem to be able to do it. I guess the Chiefs can do it
01:45 I don't know that many other teams that have been able to do it the last 10 years
01:49 so I think
01:51 It's so scary to think of like trading up into the top three
01:55 sacrificing all those first-round picks for a project who hasn't played much football when
02:01 You could play it safe and take a guy like Spencer Rattler in round three or four who's played a lot of football
02:08 I think that sort of changed the way teams look
02:11 Go about their quarterback search. I don't know. It's really good. So I think that I understand what you're saying
02:17 I think it makes sense, but I will say this
02:19 I think there's been a lot of experienced quarterbacks come out of college that have done absolutely nothing in the NFL
02:24 And I think there's been a lot of good quarterbacks in the NFL that probably haven't played that much as well
02:29 So I don't think experience is the measure the thing that makes Brock pretty good. Is that
02:34 It's what you can't really detect until you put them out on the field and I don't think you can scout that
02:41 Right just because you play a lot in the NFL doesn't mean it's gonna turn in college
02:46 It means gonna translate to the NFL what Brock pretty has is that it factor now?
02:51 I think it also people need to consider
02:53 He's on a really good team with a lot of really good weapons in a system that is perfect for his skill set
03:00 So I think if NFL teams are out there thinking hey, we could find the next Brock Purdy in the seventh round last pick of
03:05 A draft. I think they're being extremely naive and I think most teams still to this day even if you just look at last season
03:14 Teams are looking at last season. Like I want the next CJ Stroud
03:17 They're not looking at last season
03:19 Like I want the next Brock Purdy and overall I think teams are looking at I want the next Patrick Mahomes
03:25 now if they get later on in the rounds and they're looking at quarterbacks like they're in the sixth seventh round and they need a
03:31 Good backup quarterback. They might look at quarterbacks like hey, this guy's played a lot and kind of reminds me of Brock Purdy
03:36 I can see that part of it. But as far as did he change the way the team's
03:42 Scouts and draft quarterbacks, I'm gonna say no on that one, but I understand what you're what you're saying
03:49 I don't know. I don't know that we're necessarily
03:51 disagreeing
03:52 I just don't think like a lot of people are saying he has changed the way the teams are
03:57 Scouting and drafting quarterbacks and I just don't see it a lot of that stuff. It's just not measurable, right?
04:05 It's the same thing with Tom Brady Tom Brady was drafted in the sixth round and he became probably the greatest quarterback of all time
04:11 But when you looked at him, there was nothing measurable that were predict who he would become
04:16 And even on Brock Purdy on a much smaller scale on a micro scale
04:20 He's not Tom Brady hasn't done anything close to Tom Brady, but there's really nothing you could have saw in college
04:26 It says Brock Purdy's gonna come and do a fantastic job. I just don't buy it
04:31 I think teams are really because you can't measure those things
04:34 You you stick with what you can measure which is you know, and it doesn't always translate to success
04:40 But it's the size the strength that passing arm the talent all of those things
04:45 I don't think that there's one trait that is responsible for Brock Purdy's success in the NFL
04:52 There's a lot of things that make Brock Purdy Brock Purdy, but I think
04:56 He is just sort of underscored
04:59 The value of experience. It doesn't mean that every experienced college quarterback is gonna be successful. Obviously not but I just think it's like another
05:06 category
05:09 To evaluate a quarterback that has taken on greater importance over the last couple of years because Brock Purdy exists and you hear people
05:16 Talk about it that you look at Bo Nix
05:18 Michael Penix jr. These are guys who maybe 10 years ago their resume would have been frowned upon all their 24
05:26 It made a lot of football
05:28 I mean, what's the upside but now they could both be first-round picks and I think that is a little bit of like the Brock
05:35 Purdy effect and maybe that's going overboard because as you said just playing a lot of football in college doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna be
05:42 Good, but you look at these success that say Jake Browning had this year doesn't mean he's a franchise quarterback or even a starter
05:47 but these guys who have played a lot of football often can go to a team or a scheme like the Shanahan scheme and
05:54 Pick it up pretty quick have some success. I think it raises the floor not necessarily
06:01 Changes the ceiling right but it does raise the floor because and you can take advantage of that rookie contract
06:06 You don't have to spend two three years developing the guy get him on the freaking field and have a functional a good quarterback
06:12 Yeah, and it slows the developer increases speeds up the development curve there
06:17 So I think in that part that does make sense if they're looking for somebody to insert quickly on a rookie contract
06:22 That they could take in managers, but here's the question how many teams are?
06:27 in this
06:29 Situation where that's what would help them right like how many teams are so deep roster wise that all they need is an experienced guy
06:35 To come in here and pass the wide open receivers. There's not many out there if any
06:39 You're right. I got one more counter-argument. I like this discussion
06:43 the Raiders
06:45 The whole Aiden O'Connell thing you can't tell me that they didn't think he was there Brock Purdy and then midway through the season
06:51 They're like, you know what?
06:53 He's not he's not yeah
06:55 Yeah, just the whole Aiden O'Connell experience that I'll tell you the thing about I know O'Connell is that guy's a strictly
07:03 Pocket passion the guy has true bricks for feet. He's no he's he cannot move at all
07:10 Yeah, I'm interested to see the Raiders are definitely drafting the quarterback this year. I would imagine they have to
07:15 Because Jimmy's gone Aiden O'Connell's not your answer. I don't know what they shouldn't trade
07:21 But to your point of the quarterbacks who were projected to go in the top ten
07:24 None of them are compared to Brock Purdy. None of them. None of them are like a this guy's got that Brock Purdy skill set
07:31 No, that's someone you would maybe take in round two round three Spencer Adler. Oh Nix
07:35 No teams are out there. Like we gotta find Brock Purdy. That's not no the whole no
07:41 No, that's what's so great about Brock Purdy. The whole thing is
07:43 We can find a Brock Purdy. We don't have to trade up, right?
07:49 We don't have we can do and maybe you're wrong. Maybe you end up with a no Connell
07:52 But I think it gives these teams hope that they're out there if you just know what to look for and you have the right scheme
07:59 the right team because I still think there's a lot of
08:01 Skepticism in the NFL that how good Brock Purdy really is
08:05 Like if you just dropped them on the Panthers and said hey
08:10 Do what CJ Stroud did for a terrible team turn this team around right now by yourself. What do you do it?
08:16 I don't know probably not but if you put him on a good team with a good scheme
08:20 He picks it up immediately. He takes event. I mean he he optimizes it
08:24 There's a place for him
08:26 So maybe like a Miami Dolphins need a backup
08:29 Yeah, that's like and exactly it's like instead of giving two of the bag which you know, you shouldn't right just
08:37 Find the next to it or the next Brock Purdy and don't I mean you don't have a top-ten pick
08:42 You don't want to trade up but you might be able to find a even better quarterback than to a late and that's the Brock
08:48 Purdy effect just the hope that there's all of a sudden this on
08:52 There's all like there's a goodwill of quarterbacks that exists. You know what I mean?
08:55 So wait a second, they're just hanging out there and no one wants it
08:58 Doesn't kind of make you wonder how many Brock Purdy's never even got an opportunity
09:02 Because they were just the hell yes and never got a chance to even show themselves
09:07 Yeah, I mean it was Jake Browning not going down that road. He was a practice squad guy
09:13 Wasn't the first guy I mean all of a sudden he's running that offense in Cincinnati
09:18 Really freaking well, like I'm not saying give him 20 million dollars, but that's Scott. That's a guy who might
09:24 Be able to start a hell of a backup
09:28 Yeah, I take him over Jimmy. I take him over in O'Connell. Yeah for sure again
09:34 If you're paying him a million dollars, you could put a hell of a team around him
09:39 Yeah, yeah, so in that regard I think I see what you're saying
09:43 I think some people are taking it to another extreme level
09:45 That when they say that they mean like teams are looking
09:49 Sure hard for the next Brock Purdy. Like I don't think that's the case
09:54 No, they I don't think so, but they don't want to have the next Jimmy Garoppolo. They don't want to have the next Daniel Jones
10:02 Right. That's what you don't want like the mid quarterback that you just gave a ton of money to for whatever reason and
10:08 The fact that the Brock Purdy's exist
10:10 Sort of prevents you from ever making that mistake. So if you get Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen, yeah by all means
10:17 Draft him in the top ten and give him all the money. But if you don't have that top five six quarterback
10:23 Don't kid yourself. Don't make Dak Prescott the highest paid player in the league
10:28 See what you got with you know from your undrafted free agent quarterback. He might be really freaking good for a couple years
10:34 There's a better business decision. Here's the next question does having a Brock Purdy
10:39 Prevents you from wanting to find a Patrick Mahomes
10:44 It good point because what happens is you get Brock Purdy and you load up your roster and you're never gonna be in a position to
10:52 Get Patrick Mahomes, even if he's out there and you're sort of locked into this
10:57 Roster structure of not paying a quarterback. You always have to guy have a guy on a rookie deal. It's like well
11:03 I think it's what Kyle wants because I don't think he really
11:06 Wants to empower his quarterback. He doesn't let him call audibles
11:09 He doesn't like just wants them to sort of do whatever he says, so
11:13 We had a guy in the draft. I don't know. I'm surprised the night is in drafted quarterback last year
11:18 I think they will this year
11:19 I was gonna ask you that you think they'll draft one this year later rounds or undrafted free agent
11:24 But I think they're gonna bring in another rookie and I'm curious
11:27 I'd like to see Brian she's next choice because they have a pretty good track record. They're one for one does Donald come back
11:34 Why?
11:35 Right, you'd have to give him like four five six million dollars. Why you could get someone for nine hundred thousand dollars
11:41 Who's probably better didn't know you could get Gardner Minshew for the same price as Donald and Mitch is proven to be better
11:47 That's who I want to last year. Honestly, go get Jake right? He's a good Jake Browning. Yeah, I know him
11:53 He's exactly like not pretty except like three years older and false. Yeah, I think Jake Browning would be a good fit for sure
11:59 Nice, I wonder if he did he make money or do people just look at him as a system quarterback?
12:03 I have no idea. He didn't make money. He didn't make money, right? No, you're not
12:08 It's weird all of a sudden
12:11 quarterbacks who can complete 70% of their throws are a dime a dozen Wow the league's changed since when and
12:17 Why would you have Sam Donald on your roster if that guy exists and he's cheap what?
12:21 Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, Brandon Allen the Niners really thought they were taking something to Bengals and they got Brandon Allen
12:27 Yeah, no. Yeah, you got the wrong guy
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