Jo Bhi Hukoomat Ati Hai Awam Ka Mandate Sath Nah Ho To Kaam Nahi Ho Sakay Ga, Senator Ali Zafar
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00:00 But sir, the political prisoners today, this matter has to be settled somewhere, right, Mr. Ranjal?
00:06 Look, I am Kashif bhai, I am saying that these matters should be settled.
00:11 I have a lot of reservations in my circle and I have also completed my work.
00:16 I have 15,000-20,000 votes in front and back, but I will not get any benefit from doing it here.
00:22 I will take it to the tribunal and this matter will have to be settled.
00:26 You should accept defeat.
00:28 Mr. Ranjal, now you are saying that you have also been accused of corruption?
00:31 No, I am not saying this. I am saying that I have completed my work.
00:36 I will take the things that will come to the tribunal, which will be my forum, I will take it there.
00:42 I will not talk about personal matters here. I have given it to Mubarak.
00:45 This is such a convenient matter, isn't it?
00:47 How convenient it is for us that we decide that in 2018 we have sat on every channel and if I say, I will tell you right now.
00:53 In press conferences, the accusations of corruption, corruption has happened, this is a selected government, the selectors are sitting behind.
00:59 Today you are saying that we will go to the tribunal, I will go truthfully, but this did not happen before.
01:04 Kashif bhai, when corruption happened last time, we said that what is happening today?
01:10 This is their temperament and I think we are mentally ready that this thing will continue and it will continue.
01:17 You will see this in the assembly, you will see this in the Punjab assembly, you will see this in the national assembly.
01:22 Our people or the purpose of our community is that we serve the country and the nation.
01:26 The issues in which Pakistan is currently involved, the central government should sit in the center and work and deliver those issues.
01:33 The chief minister's team should sit in the cabinet and work and solve the problems of the people.
01:38 These fights, these quarrels that the election was not right, it was not done, to fight this, we are sitting separately, we will do these things.
01:45 We want our team to deliver to the government.
01:48 I am going to Ali Zafar sahib with a response to Mr. Qaira.
01:52 You are correcting this thing that we are not talking about our personal issues and yesterday we were saying something else, today we are saying something else.
01:59 You, my brother Ali Zafar sahib, are sitting, about the 2018 election, his questions were also of a different kind.
02:07 When we raised questions, you and he used to say that there is a tribunal, there is a court, go there.
02:13 So we are not saying anything new and the whole truth is not even spoken to you.
02:18 These things are correct, that is why we want that these personal issues should not be debated in the media.
02:24 Otherwise, it is correct that if there are talks about your own profession, then you will not be able to do all the talks.
02:32 I requested Ali Zafar sahib, today he is saying that the election commission is not doing well with us and there is no fear and so on.
02:39 And you are saying, yesterday you were saying, when we were saying that this election has been resolved.
02:44 Mr. Qaira, I will answer this, then you will say that I am not talking about you, but are you talking about me or are you talking about generic?
02:51 No, no, no, I am talking about the media. I am not talking about Kashif Abbas.
02:54 The media should say, because on the day of the election, when I was talking about Dhanjali, my issue was torn, if you say, I will tell you on TV.
03:01 Because his phone had come, what are you talking about?
03:03 I know, I am not talking about Kashif Abbas.
03:09 I am not talking about Kashif, I am talking about the media.
03:16 I am saying that I will not discuss my personal issues in the media.
03:21 Mr. Ali Zafar, I would like to ask you about Mr. Qaira, you were a beneficiary in 2018, today you are at the receiving end.
03:31 This cat and mouse game is a very old game of our politics, but how do you choose to take it forward?
03:39 Is it the same as it was before? It will be the same now, there will be a big dance in the assemblies, there will be a singing, it will be hot.
03:47 We will see the same politics in the streets and in the parliament.
03:52 Or do you think that you will have to sit and talk, you will have to do a grand dialogue at this time?
03:56 No, see, the most important and important thing that we are seeing at the moment is that there are many crises in front of Pakistan.
04:08 There is an economic crisis, there is a health crisis, there is an education crisis, people are running away from Pakistan, that is a crisis.
04:16 There is an agricultural crisis, there is a water crisis, we are having to take very important and difficult decisions.
04:22 And we will have to take any government, whatever government comes in.
04:26 But our problem is that until the government that comes behind it, people do not have confidence, people do not have confidence, people do not have the mandate with them.
04:38 So, these important decisions will not be able to be taken.
04:43 But in the 2018 election, there were big questions and signs of your victory, that a lot happened behind.
04:48 You are right, there was a big mandate at that time, this will continue.
04:53 So, that's why it has to be fixed.
04:56 There is a difference, there is a difference, Mr. Kashif, which I wanted to point out, that at the moment the situation is that there is a stolen mandate, everyone is accepting it, it is a fact.
05:08 There is no doubt about it, that pre-poll rigging has also happened, post-poll rigging has also happened.
05:13 And we are seeing the result that there is a strange confusion at the moment, there is a confusion, a problem, no one can see that there will be a solution to this problem.
05:23 But you will remember that when we came in 2018, we tried to reform the election.
05:30 We said that you bring EVMs, bring electronic machines, you sit with us and sit and find some solution, find a solution that the election that the greedy people do, it should end.
05:45 There should be no possibility that people's mandate can be stolen.
05:49 Sir, but the problem here is that your words are right, your emotions are also good, but here every time the method is new.
05:55 I mean, who thought that whatever be the form 47, it will be 47 and tomorrow some other method will come out.
06:04 It is the same as, you will remember, I used to say at that time also when there was no confidence and the deputy speaker had given a ruling that whatever is our will, we will do whatever we want.
06:17 So, these things have to be fixed and the problem of our system is that the beneficiary will say that it should go through this process and the one who is the victim of all this will say that we should fix this thing quickly.
06:32 These roles keep reversing, desires of people keep reversing, but the system is not right.