Las Vegas Raiders Insider Podcast on Antonio Pierce Has Taken Residency in the Mind of Patrick Mahomes, Emails, More
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00:00 Hi everybody, this is Hondo Carpenter from the Las Vegas Raiders Insider Podcast.
00:06 Great to be with you today.
00:08 Man, we've got so much to discuss.
00:13 It is just going to be a Raider buffet of verbal goodies for you today.
00:23 Cannot wait to get into this.
00:24 Before we get started though, I want to address a couple of very quick things as my phone
00:30 goes off.
00:31 I'm sorry about that.
00:32 Make sure that that gets turned off.
00:34 But I got a couple of very important things I want to discuss with you.
00:39 Number one, I had the privilege on Tuesday night of being in San Antonio with the San
00:46 Antonio chapter of the Black Hole.
00:49 What a great event that was.
00:52 Epic event, great people, amazing people.
00:55 And I have gotten the chance of meeting so many Raider fans across the country.
01:01 And every one of you have been great.
01:05 But I salute the San Antonio chapter.
01:08 They killed it.
01:09 It was the best one we've ever done.
01:12 It was just fantastic and gave away some things, gave away a pair of Black Air Force Ones.
01:20 By the way, I think those will be shipped out Monday is when I was told I'd get them
01:24 to the winner.
01:25 But I just want to take a quick second and shout out to the San Antonio Black Hole chapter.
01:30 Awesome, awesome people.
01:33 Great event.
01:34 My wife was with me.
01:36 Dexter was with me and they were so warm and kind and just great.
01:40 So thank you to all of you again.
01:42 It's the last I'm going to say, but they gave me something that I wanted to show all of
01:46 you.
01:47 And if you're not familiar, first of all, San Antonio is a very big military town.
01:57 And it was and thank you to all of our veterans, precious people.
02:04 And in the military, they do something that's called a challenge coin.
02:09 And what they do is they give away to people coins in the military.
02:14 And it means something.
02:15 It means, hey, this is your part of us.
02:18 And they have what I believe is the coolest challenge coin.
02:22 I've been given a lot of challenge coins by military members for speaking to military
02:27 and all that kind of stuff.
02:29 But this is one and I know because of how this works, that there it's Al Davis.
02:35 And then you flip it around and there's some of the Raider greats.
02:39 And I was just so completely dumbfounded that they gave this to me was absolutely amazing.
02:48 And they gave me two and they have a rule in their chapter that if you're caught without
02:53 your challenge coin, you've got to buy the next round.
02:58 And I'm going to permanently keep one in my bag.
03:01 The other though is going to go into Dexter's memory box because I want him to have it.
03:05 But what an awesome gift from those people.
03:08 And you know, they was so funny.
03:10 They've got their own koozies.
03:12 They're giving away koozies.
03:13 And it was just fun to be with them.
03:15 And I want to just take a minute and tell all of you, thank you.
03:18 If you're part of a Black Hole chapter, anywhere in the world, if you can get enough people,
03:24 we'll come in and do an event with you.
03:25 We'd love to come in and meet with you.
03:28 And if you don't have a Black Hole chapter where you're at, I don't know how to start
03:31 it.
03:32 I got a couple of people that have asked me, I'm not paid by the team.
03:34 I'm not paid by the Black Hole.
03:36 But I would get one going.
03:37 These clubs are pretty awesome.
03:39 All right, I want to get in now on multiple subjects today.
03:44 First of all, oh, and by the way, I want to thank after Tuesday night, Wednesday and Thursday,
03:49 we met with some friends and was able to do a little bit of hunting out in the hill country
03:54 of Texas.
03:56 And I just want to thank the friends that came there and were with us and appreciate
04:00 enjoyed all your all you guys's and spending time with you.
04:06 I want to talk to you about a couple of things.
04:07 First of all, prior before going to prior before going to San Antonio, I had investigated
04:14 on what the cost for the Raiders to move up to one would be.
04:19 And I was told if you go back and look at the San Francisco model when they picked Trey
04:24 Lance, I think that was in 2021.
04:27 And what the cost was, was three ones in a two.
04:30 The problem is, is the Raiders have to move to one.
04:34 Because if you're not sold that there are three generational talents, then you get if
04:43 there's only two, then you got to get into the top two places.
04:46 And at the time, I said to you, Washington wasn't moving.
04:52 Washington was not moving.
04:55 Add to that.
04:57 So you couldn't go to three because what if Washington takes one of the two?
05:01 Now I know there are some people just want to move on get a quarterback because they're
05:03 just tired of whatever the Raiders have had.
05:05 But you don't move up and pay that price if you're not sure.
05:10 So you have to go to one.
05:12 And it was remember San Francisco went from 12 to three.
05:19 This would be going from 13 to one, it's bigger.
05:22 So again, they were they told me of that day, the price would be probably three ones and
05:27 three twos.
05:29 And so that one would include this year's 2024, 25 and 26.
05:34 And the three twos from 24, 25 and 26.
05:37 That would be the cost.
05:39 And if you think somebody up there is worth it, you do it now.
05:43 Have learned a couple things.
05:45 I have been told by a general manager that the Bears have probably made a decision now.
05:53 Remember, I told you before they hadn't made a decision that they're probably going to
05:57 be moving on from Justin Fields.
05:59 So that takes Caleb Williams probably out of it.
06:04 Because I'm hearing Washington wants probably Jaden Daniels.
06:10 That's not 100%.
06:11 They haven't made a decision.
06:12 But what I'm hearing from NFL people is the speculation is that they would probably take
06:16 Jaden.
06:17 Again, I don't think that's settled yet.
06:22 So then you have to decide with the Patriots stay and take Dre May or Jaden who's ever
06:27 available.
06:28 Or is there then a possibility that on draft night, you move up to three.
06:34 If whoever you think is a generational talent drops, certainly a possibility.
06:38 But just like with Chicago, the other day, you could have probably gotten the pick.
06:43 Now they're moving away from that, that they're going to use it.
06:46 So price of poker continues to go up.
06:50 Just wanted to make you aware of that.
06:52 I want to address another issue.
06:56 Antonio Pierce AP made some very strong comments about going after Patrick Mahomes, cutting
07:07 the snake off the head, whatever.
07:10 I'm going to be very blunt.
07:12 I was stunned at the some of the email and the reaction that I got from Raider fans.
07:19 Why doesn't he just shut up?
07:21 He shouldn't be saying this.
07:22 Hold on, time out.
07:26 I don't need to ask your age.
07:29 If you're saying that I already know your age.
07:31 And I'm going to tell you why.
07:34 Because while I'm not a fan, I'm certainly very much respect the Raiders.
07:42 Does anybody not remember a guy named Al Davis?
07:46 In the first few plays of the game, the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard.
07:51 AP said nothing wrong.
07:56 He's tired of being the grandma's rug in front of the door.
08:02 Now I don't care what color you are.
08:04 I don't care where you grew up.
08:06 I don't care about your socioeconomic background or your politics.
08:09 He's grandma had that wore down rug in front of the front door and been there forever.
08:20 And you just was grandma's rug.
08:24 And growing up in Michigan, you always take your, you always take your shoes off because
08:36 you bring in the snow and all that or whatever.
08:39 You just, it's just something that I've learned other places don't do it as much, but Michigan
08:44 growing up, that's what you did.
08:47 And AP's just like, you know, I'm tired of being the rug.
08:52 Those are not his words.
08:54 Me explaining where he's coming from.
08:55 I'm tired of everybody kissing the ring of Patrick Mahomes.
08:58 Does anybody not remember?
08:59 And again, I'm speaking euphemistically, fictitiously in the voice of AP, but does anybody not remember
09:07 we just whooped him on Christmas day and he's sending a message.
09:13 Now this is brilliant on Antonio Pierce's part because he wasn't calling anybody to
09:23 be dirty.
09:25 He made no mantra of being dirty.
09:31 He made no statement of we're going to play dirty.
09:40 We're not doing that.
09:41 We're not doing it.
09:42 Okay.
09:43 We're going after you.
09:44 And he's coming.
09:45 Now, here is why it was brilliant because Patrick Mahomes is going to think about that.
10:01 The chiefs are going to be thinking about that all off season.
10:08 That's going to brew the rivalries coming back.
10:10 The Raiders won that one.
10:11 Now, now it's back.
10:13 Now they're letting him know we're going to get physical with you, man.
10:16 The old Olivia Newton Johnson, gonna get physical.
10:20 I mean, we're coming down and this is football and you make it bailed out.
10:29 Okay.
10:31 Obviously I'm not, but I'm talking about the message again that AP sending.
10:42 We're bringing Patrick Graham and his merry band of misfits and we're going to get physical
10:48 with you.
10:49 Now I have a buddy who does not play for the Chargers, doesn't play for the Raiders, plays
10:57 for another team and he sent me this text after AP.
11:00 I got to read this to you.
11:02 So funny.
11:03 He says, Hey, I think this is hilarious.
11:09 Here's his comments.
11:10 Hey Kermit, we're coming.
11:11 Now it's not me.
11:12 I'm a professional.
11:13 I'm not going to call Patrick Mahomes that, but I just thought it was funny that this
11:20 is the mentality of even how other NFL football players saw it.
11:24 We're going to get physical with you.
11:28 We're going to get physical with you.
11:30 We're coming after you.
11:32 We want to PC you.
11:35 Now the NFL was asked by pro, I think it was by pro football talk, Mike Florio.
11:39 They had anything they wanted to say and they said, no comment.
11:41 What is there to say?
11:43 It's a physical game.
11:47 And for some of you saying, you know, I just wish you'd shut up.
11:50 No, no, no, no, no, no.
11:53 Remember who you are.
11:54 You are the Raiders.
11:57 You're the team that physically puts in domination.
12:02 You're the ones who are supposed to bring the fight.
12:06 You're the ones who are supposed to bring the old school.
12:13 You're the ones who are supposed to own the line of scrimmage.
12:15 You're the ones who are supposed to put the quarterback down.
12:18 AP not only didn't say anything wrong.
12:23 I think what he said was right.
12:26 You don't think he just bought six months of free rent and Patrick Mahomes his head.
12:33 I do.
12:37 You don't think he just bought six months inside Patrick Mahomes his face inside between
12:46 his ears about the Raiders.
12:52 He did nothing wrong.
12:55 He sent a message.
12:58 We're not intimidated by you.
13:00 We respect you.
13:01 And again, I'm speaking in his voice.
13:02 It's not Hondo.
13:05 But he's saying, listen, we respect you.
13:11 Max Crosby said he wanted you to win the Super Bowl.
13:16 We're just letting you know we're here.
13:19 And we beat you on Christmas.
13:22 And we're working all offseason knowing we got to unseat you.
13:27 PP gave them ultimate respect.
13:33 But no fear.
13:37 Dear Lord God, how many of you like me want to see the Chiefs at Arrowhead Open 2024 hosting
13:48 the Raiders?
13:53 Come on now.
13:55 Come on.
13:58 If you love football, I don't even care if you're a Raider or a Chief fan.
14:03 Knowing that there's a little bit of bad blood and a little bit.
14:07 That's why we love the game.
14:13 We love football.
14:18 It's fun.
14:19 Let's get out there and get physical.
14:24 Let's get out there.
14:25 Get it on.
14:26 You ain't going to have Max Crosby at 60% next year.
14:34 You're going to have some new Raiders.
14:38 Man, I'll tell you what, I love the game of football.
14:44 I enjoy the game of football.
14:48 It's just a great sport.
14:51 The NFL is by far, and I'm going to tell you for years, I was a huge college football guy.
15:00 College football is just ruining itself.
15:04 They are just a circular firing squad.
15:07 And the NFL just continues to ascend.
15:11 And I love this new direction.
15:15 D'Amico Rynes, Dan Campbell, Antonio Pierce.
15:21 This new generation of, "No, we're not going to be buttoned up and not say anything in
15:31 a press conference."
15:32 We'll talk.
15:33 I love that Antonio Pierce is talking and getting his point across.
15:46 I like that he's making it clear.
15:49 We didn't win the division.
15:50 We got to win the division.
15:52 We ain't afraid of nobody.
15:56 I like that.
15:58 That impresses me.
16:03 That sends a message to me that it's old school football.
16:07 Let's get to some of these emails I got from you guys.
16:13 First one comes to us from Steven Hay Hondo.
16:16 My question is, "In the past, you stated that new coaches should be judged after 20 games
16:22 coached.
16:23 Since Coach Pierce got nine games as an interim, does that 20-game rule apply or is it extended
16:28 to 30?
16:29 Do you think Mark Davis expects the Raiders to be a playoff team?"
16:33 Thanks, Steven.
16:34 Two things.
16:35 He was an interim.
16:36 He did not have his staff.
16:38 He did not have OTAs, mini camps, training camps, free agency, draft, trade deadline.
16:45 No.
16:47 He was a babysitter of the team.
16:49 His 20-game start next year, first game.
16:52 As far as Mark Davis, I think Mark Davis' mentality is, "We're going to make the playoffs
16:56 every year."
16:57 Do you want him to have any different mentality?
17:02 I don't think he should.
17:03 Don't think he should at all.
17:06 Next one comes to us from James in Indiana.
17:08 "Hondo, do you think the Raiders will draft a QB after round one and also sign a free
17:13 agent QB?"
17:15 It will be, or I think what he's trying to say is, "Or will it be the opposite way around?"
17:25 That's James in Indiana.
17:27 I expect them to add a veteran of some sort, and I expect them to draft one.
17:32 A quarterback position is too important.
17:35 You almost have to be drafting one every year until you find one, and then you keep drafting
17:42 until you find that backup guy.
17:43 It's too important.
17:46 Way, way too important.
17:48 Last one comes to us from Rudy G. "Hondo, with the Raiders not having to pay the guaranteed
17:53 money of Jimmy, do you think they attack free agent market at quarterback a little different?"
17:59 No.
18:00 Nope.
18:01 I don't.
18:02 It's nice to have that extra money, but they weren't really in salary cap hell.
18:07 Don't expect it in the least bit.
18:09 I expect them to keep going forward, keep moving forward, doing what they do.
18:15 I think there's lots of different options here.
18:18 I want to tell you that this is Friday morning early.
18:24 They are looking under every rock.
18:28 They are looking under everything that they can find, and they are absolutely looking
18:38 at every decision to make.
18:41 I do not believe ... I knew the other day for a fact that they had not yet made a final
18:47 decision on what they're doing.
18:49 I do not believe they're at that point right now either.
18:53 I think they're zeroed in on what they want to do, but no.
18:56 I don't think ... 11.25 extra million is a lot of money.
19:00 I'm not pretending it's not, but they are not going to attack it any different.
19:06 They know the vitality.
19:07 They know the importance of the quarterback position.
19:09 They're going for the quarterback position, and they want to make sure it's as best as
19:14 it can be.
19:16 However they do it is going to be what they think is best.
19:21 Now, last one comes in from someone named Beth.
19:25 Beth wants to know ... Beth is in Oxnard, California.
19:32 Beth says, "Hondo, do you think Aiden O'Connell will be given a chance to be the starting
19:37 quarterback next year?"
19:39 Yep.
19:40 He'll be given a chance.
19:43 He's got to earn it.
19:44 He's got to earn it.
19:45 Period.
19:46 He'll be given a chance.
19:47 Again, thank you for the emails.
19:48 I'm going to be trying to ... answering more of those.
19:49 Remember, you can send me emails, but you've got to include your name.
19:50 Spartan Nation Mail, MAIL@yahoo.com.
19:51 Just put in the subject line Raiders Q&A.
19:52 I appreciate all of you.
19:53 I wanted to answer some of your questions.
19:54 I wanted to address the AP comments because I was just so impressed with the way you guys
19:55 were responding to the questions.
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