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(Current Affairs)

Host:
- Maria Memon

Guests:
- Habib Akram (Analyst)
- Muzamal Suharwardy (Analyst)
- Muzzammil Aslam (Economist Analyst)
- Shahbaz Rana (Economist Analyst)

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Transcript
00:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maria Mehman from Top Stories.
00:16 The government has started its work.
00:18 The Punjab Assembly has taken up the task.
00:20 In a few days, the Prime Minister of Punjab will also take up the task.
00:22 Mareeb Nawaz Sharif Sahiba is here.
00:24 Most probably, she will talk about the number game in the first semester of the program.
00:28 The green signal of the IMF.
00:30 She is ready to work with the new government.
00:32 But the Justice Department says that they will also write a letter to the IMF.
00:36 And they will raise questions about the transparency of the current election process.
00:40 We will talk about this in the second semester of the program.
00:42 In the end, the situation is extremely bad.
00:44 The PTA has made the Sindh High Court completely deaf.
00:48 They have refused to obey the orders of the High Court.
00:50 I think this is the new normal in this country.
00:52 We will talk about this in the last semester of the program.
00:54 But let's start.
00:56 The first morning of the assembly, the PTA has started the process of the implementation of the constitution.
01:02 But today, there was no good omen for the democracy in Punjab.
01:06 If we look at the indicators and the proceedings of the day,
01:10 we see that the whole day was pushed into political turmoil.
01:16 First of all, Mian Aslam Iqbal, who is possibly the opposition leader,
01:22 was not seen anywhere today. He could not reach the IWAN.
01:26 Everyone was waiting for him.
01:28 But what kind of IWAN will this be?
01:30 Where the opposition leader of the IWAN, who is possibly Marim Nawaz,
01:34 could not reach there.
01:36 Then the police were standing there.
01:38 All the people who came there, the MPAs,
01:40 tried to create an atmosphere of some arrests.
01:42 This is also not a good omen for the democracy.
01:44 We also saw that the posters and slogans in the IWAN,
01:50 the politics of agitation, is usually done by the opposition.
01:52 But today we saw it from the government's side.
01:54 Will this be the new trend in Punjab for the next 4-5 years,
01:58 as long as the assembly is possible?
02:00 If we look at the possible government of Marim Nawaz in Punjab,
02:06 it is possible that the formalities will be removed.
02:08 There is no good start for that.
02:12 Who are these people who want to taint the government of Marim Nawaz from the beginning?
02:18 But there are still many issues that are a cause of confusion.
02:22 Because the special sessions of minorities and women,
02:24 have not been allotted to the movement.
02:26 If we look at Punjab, there are 36 sessions of women, 5 sessions of minorities.
02:32 The PMLN, People's Party, and Muslim League have sessions of women.
02:36 The same is the case with the Pakistan Party.
02:38 The Sunni Ijtihad, the free movement of PTI,
02:42 whose expected number is 24 sessions of women and 3 sessions of minorities,
02:48 has not been allotted yet.
02:50 If the number is given after the special sessions,
02:54 the PMLN has 201, and is currently in the lead.
02:58 If the Sunni Ijtihad Council and PTI's Ijtihad do not get 24,
03:02 then it is close to 106, but if they get it, they will cross the 130 number.
03:06 People's Party, Muslim League Kaaf, IPP, Muslim League Zia, and TLP,
03:10 are currently the number game in Punjab's assembly.
03:14 But why are the special sessions not being allotted to the movement?
03:18 There are many opinions on this by various experts.
03:22 In the legal matters, the first thing that Kabir Dilshahat said,
03:28 is that the Election Commission will look into this matter.
03:30 There are some legal obstacles in this.
03:32 Can this be done under the Election Act or not?
03:36 What is his opinion?
03:38 After the Sunni Ijtihad Council's request,
03:42 the Election Commission of Pakistan has the right to decide
03:48 whether their request is correct under the Election Act 104, subsection 4,
03:56 or what are the rights of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
04:00 The Election Commission of Pakistan has the right to use its own rights.
04:06 And it will decide under the Election Act.
04:10 So, obviously, the Election Commission of Pakistan has to decide
04:14 whether it is Article 924 or Section 104 of the Election Act.
04:22 So, this decision will be made, according to Kabir Dilshahat.
04:26 Ahmed Bilal Mehboob has drawn our attention to the Baap Party's free sessions in 2019.
04:32 He said that the precedence is there.
04:34 The elections were held in 2018, but the sessions were held in 2019.
04:38 What is Ahmed Bilal Mehboob's opinion on this?
04:40 In 2019, after the merger of FATA, the elections of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
04:46 the three free candidates there had set the foundation of a parliamentary party,
04:52 the Balochistan Awaami Party, of Baap.
04:56 And Baap, although they did not give a list of their own special sessions,
05:02 they were still allowed to form a party,
05:06 and they were also allocated a session from among the women's sessions.
05:12 So, since this has started from Punjab,
05:16 all these questions should be asked in the context of the Punjab Assembly itself.
05:20 Shouldn't the Sunni Tariq-e-Insaf Council get these sessions?
05:24 Should it move forward in this direction?
05:26 Shouldn't this event be completed in numbers?
05:30 And if everyone wants to move this system forward,
05:32 then the vibrancy that is required in a democracy of the opposition,
05:36 shouldn't it be made possible that it not only reaches the event,
05:40 but that their parliamentary role is facilitated there?
05:44 Or will we see that, as has been the case in the last two and a half years,
05:48 the same pattern will continue,
05:50 and as a result, the dream of everyone, the desire of everyone,
05:54 is not fulfilled?
05:56 This is a very important question mark from all of us.
05:59 In the first part of the program, Habib Akram Sahib is with us,
06:01 Muzamil Saurwardy Sahib is also with us.
06:03 Let's take advantage of their presence,
06:05 because what has happened in Iwan today,
06:07 let's hope that all the political prisoners are released.
06:13 The people who are raising questions about the mandate,
06:17 let's hope that the tribunals decide on it soon.
06:19 Because if the foundation is crooked,
06:21 then the building can never be straight.
06:23 Muzamil Sahib, let's start with you.
06:25 The way the whole matter has started today,
06:27 do you think that the system is moving towards a revolution?
06:31 Yes, the transition of power has never been silent on the side of justice.
06:37 I remember during the time of Admitmat,
06:39 and after that, when in Punjab,
06:41 during the time of Hamza Shahbaz's defeat,
06:43 Umar Safraz Sahib refused to accept defeat,
06:46 and then Speaker Raja Pravez Ashraf Sahib was ordered by the Lahore High Court,
06:51 that you come and accept defeat,
06:53 because the Governor was refusing to accept defeat.
06:55 So this has been a pattern in Punjab, in the Central Government,
06:59 from the ruling to the transition of power.
07:03 Even today, the work that the Speaker should have done in half an hour,
07:07 when he had given the time of 10 o'clock,
07:09 he could have easily come at 10.30 or 11 o'clock,
07:12 he could have accepted defeat,
07:14 all the people in Irqan,
07:16 because he is an outgoing Speaker now,
07:18 he does not have any role,
07:20 he has to accept defeat and elect a new Speaker.
07:23 But he kept on prolonging it,
07:25 and kept on trying to create turmoil,
07:28 in the end, sense prevailed,
07:30 and he accepted defeat.
07:32 I thought that like Umar Safraz,
07:34 he would also say that he would not accept defeat,
07:36 and then the courts would have to intervene,
07:39 that if the outgoing Speaker does not accept defeat,
07:41 then what will be done in the Constitution?
07:43 Because the Constitution has not perceived such things,
07:45 that sometimes a group will come,
07:47 which will create such hurdles in the transition of power.
07:50 Like it was never thought that the Governor would refuse to accept defeat,
07:54 it was never thought that the President would refuse to accept defeat,
07:59 so the Constitution had not thought of such things,
08:01 that such a group would come,
08:03 which would create such hurdles in the path of transition of power.
08:07 But the Constitution had not thought that the opposition,
08:11 who is possibly Mian Aslam Iqbal,
08:13 would not be able to reach the IWAN,
08:15 the Constitution had not thought that when people would come out,
08:17 or opposition people would come to take the vote,
08:19 there would be such a big crowd outside the police station,
08:21 and it would not be facilitated,
08:23 but there would still be a fear.
08:25 We are seeing a lot of first timers this time, right?
08:29 No, you are not seeing first timers.
08:32 During the assembly proceedings,
08:34 security in Punjab has been very high,
08:37 and you are not seeing first timers.
08:39 And the second thing is that today there was a protest call
08:42 from the Tehreek-e-Insaf outside,
08:44 and possibly to stop that protest,
08:47 the presence of the police was necessary,
08:49 because when you had given the protest call,
08:52 if the police had been sitting at home,
08:54 then you would have asked,
08:56 where were the police on 9th May, why did the police not stop?
08:59 And if the police had come to stop,
09:01 then you would have asked, why did they come?
09:03 They had the audacity to come and stand there.
09:06 So there are arguments on both sides.
09:08 If they are present, then it is a question,
09:10 and if they are not present, then it is a question.
09:13 But it is also true that
09:15 Mian Aslam Iqbal should have come there,
09:18 when he had the bail from the Peshawar High Court,
09:21 then he should have come there, why did he not come?
09:24 If he had come and they had been stopped,
09:26 then we could have asked a question,
09:28 and if they would not have come from home,
09:30 then what question is there in relation to their coming?
09:32 There is no such thing in the constitution,
09:34 that a special car will be sent to pick them up.
09:37 Hmm, okay.
09:38 Habib Akram Sahab, today's whole day,
09:40 because today is the beginning of Mariam Sahiba's parliamentary politics.
09:43 So these small indicators, these small matters,
09:46 because they have to set a tone for the next 3-4 years,
09:50 or 5 years, we hope that the assemblies should be completed in this country,
09:54 but what to do, our past examples,
09:57 are a trauma for us, that this does not happen.
10:01 But anyway, the tone that had to be set today,
10:04 how did you interpret that?
10:07 Look Maria, this tone is actually the climax of what has been happening in the last 2 years.
10:13 Especially when in April 2022, the central government went,
10:17 and after that the Punjab government went,
10:19 came, then went, and after that the assembly broke.
10:22 So, from that onwards, the discriminatory treatment that is being done,
10:26 from a special party, and in this case, Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
10:30 so this is the climax of what we have seen today.
10:34 And especially in an environment where questions are being raised about the election,
10:38 the entire Pakistan, the media from Pakistan, the media outside Pakistan,
10:42 the people inside Pakistan, are not satisfied with the outcome of this election.
10:46 They are not satisfied with the outcome because of the results that the Election Commission has issued.
10:51 A lot of people think that this is not a translation of the public's desires,
10:55 but rather there are some issues that are present in this, which are problematic.
10:59 So, in such an environment, when a very big party in Pakistan,
11:04 and it is now the single largest party,
11:06 so when there are questions raised about the mandate of that party,
11:10 that the mandate that should have been there is not there,
11:15 and its mandate has been put in someone else's pocket,
11:18 then obviously, you cannot expect in Pakistan's politics that all the good kids will be here,
11:24 and that good thoughts will be expressed for each other,
11:29 or that the assembly proceedings will go smoothly.
11:32 The second thing is that the tested Hikmat-e-Amli that Pakistan Muslim League had invented,
11:39 you must remember that when the first National Assembly was being held in 2018,
11:44 in that first meeting, the opposition, which later became the government,
11:49 the workers of the Pakistan Muslim League, what did they do?
11:54 They created an environment where it was impossible to even give a speech for the then elected Prime Minister.
12:00 So, now the seeds that were sown, it is time to cut them.
12:05 Now, if anyone here understands that we should see a smooth transition in Pakistan,
12:10 or we should see a smooth assembly, that we have done a very democratic exercise,
12:16 so now there are some outcomes, so one is that that democratic exercise is taking place.
12:21 There are about 200 seats on which questions are being asked,
12:24 and they are being forced to sit in Pakistan, including the National Assembly and the Parliament.
12:28 Now, the Election Tribunals, the Election Commission, are raising their fingers for its role.
12:34 When the Election Tribunals are being formed, there are a lot of concerns and threats from them.
12:39 So, the road ahead of Pakistan's politics, I see a lot of ups and downs in it.
12:45 What is the solution to this ups and downs, Mr. Soharwardy?
12:50 If you want stability in the elections, if you want to complete the numbers in your assembly,
12:57 then solve the problem of these special seats and move forward,
13:01 so that if you want to run the elections, you don't need the opposition,
13:04 and then there will be another cycle of seats.
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