"Jab Jamhoori Rasta Nahi Hoga To Hum Koi Bhi Rasta Ikhtiyar Karne Ko Azad Hunge", Rashid Somro
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00:24 My opinion is that PDM was abolished when the previous government came into existence
00:34 or when the previous government was abolished.
00:36 In these elections you saw that we fought elections against Muslim League Noon,
00:41 we fought elections against Pakistan People's Party,
00:44 we fought elections against ANP, they fought elections against us.
00:48 So when we fought elections against each other in the elections,
00:51 it was a clear proof that there was no election from the platform of PDM
00:55 and now there is no such thing.
00:58 I don't know if you heard or not, I asked Ali Muhammad Khan
01:01 because we were talking about the number game and he is still claiming
01:04 that he will make a government in Vipak.
01:06 And if he makes it, then each vote is valuable.
01:08 In this case you have 4 votes, he has said it.
01:10 So I asked him that can these 4 votes be of Maulana Khan?
01:13 He said that the two parties that Khan has declared as No Go Area,
01:17 PPP and Noon, Maulana Khan's party is not in that area.
01:20 So anything can happen.
01:21 He said that he is not saying that it will be abolished,
01:23 but he is not saying that it will not be abolished.
01:25 You tell me, how much is the possibility that you give your 4 votes to PTI in government?
01:31 The first thing is that I heard Ali Muhammad Khan's words,
01:37 he is now talking about the number game.
01:39 We were talking about the number game when Muslim League Noon was also talking about the number game
01:45 and PPP was also talking about the number game.
01:48 Today when they are not talking about the number game,
01:50 we are still talking about the number game.
01:52 So this means that our position in 2018 and today was not against any party.
01:59 We had a disagreement with someone, what was our position at that time,
02:03 we were friends with someone, what is our position today.
02:06 These friends or opponents never interfere in our position.
02:12 Maulana Fazlur Rahman never interferes in everyone's position.
02:15 Maulana's clear position in 2018 was that there was a dispute,
02:19 PTI accepted that PTI was making a government at that time.
02:23 Today PTI is reducing the issue of that dispute,
02:27 that they are going to make a government in the province,
02:29 their chances are coming that they might be able to make a government in the center,
02:33 so they are not talking with that force.
02:35 If they need your 4 votes to make a government in the center, will you give it or not?
02:40 I am saying that we do not have 4 votes,
02:44 according to the results that are being released at the moment,
02:47 6 members have reached the assembly,
02:50 along with a reserve seat of a woman,
02:53 she is sitting in the assembly with 7 votes.
02:56 But the thing is that we are sitting in opposition,
03:01 when we are sitting in opposition,
03:03 then we will decide whether we will vote or not.
03:07 This is decided that we are not becoming a part of the government,
03:10 this is decided that we are not going in this unity,
03:12 so now Maulana Fazlur Rahman has called a meeting of the general council,
03:16 before the government is formed, the general council will give its decision,
03:19 all these things will be discussed in that.
03:21 So it is decided that if PTI asks you for 4,
03:24 what you are saying 6 votes,
03:26 for the formation of a government,
03:27 it is not because you do not want to go into the government.
03:30 Am I saying this right?
03:31 Then I will ask the next question.
03:32 Yes.
03:33 I think this is it.
03:35 Is it possible that if PTI comes in opposition,
03:39 and there is a need to form a joint action,
03:42 because you are also ready to sit in opposition,
03:44 and they will also be in opposition,
03:45 then that can be a joint action of parliament.
03:48 Am I saying this right?
03:50 Today Maulana Fazlur Rahman has said that
03:53 we have no problem with the PTI people's body,
03:56 we have a problem with their mind,
03:58 and we have prayed that may Allah make their mind right,
04:01 all the things have come in front of them,
04:04 and the things that we have reservations on,
04:08 on the fundamental and ideological grounds,
04:10 if they correct it,
04:12 then there will be no problem in going with PTI,
04:14 but if PTI is going with the same mind,
04:16 the same mind with which PTI has been going till now,
04:19 then I do not think that JUI and they will be able to come closer to each other,
04:23 but in opposition it is obvious that they will also be on the opposition benches,
04:26 and we will also be on the opposition benches.
04:28 You said that it is possible,
04:30 that there will be a lot of thought on this too,
04:32 that should we leave our party to parliamentary politics,
04:35 or are you saying this for the next elections,
04:38 that we should not participate in the next elections,
04:40 or is it possible that whenever your general councils are going to be held,
04:43 it is possible that this parliament should decide right now,
04:46 that we are immediately announcing that we are leaving parliamentary politics,
04:49 and our MNAs who win will not sit in the assembly,
04:51 is this also possible or is this an out of the question possibility?
04:53 Our central,
04:54 our central parliament is not in such a domain,
04:57 that they can decide that we should give up politics,
05:01 but the situation that we are in,
05:03 after 2002, 2008, 2013, 2018 and now in 2024,
05:09 after this the central assembly and the general council
05:13 have been asked to decide that now that democracy,
05:20 for which we have taken 80-80 funerals,
05:22 for which we have taken 100-100 funerals,
05:24 Maulana Fadlur Rahman Sahib,
05:26 because of this parliamentary system,
05:28 three suicide bombings,
05:29 Maulana Sahib's children were attacked,
05:31 Maulana Abdul Afoor Haidri Sahib was attacked,
05:33 Akram Khan Durrani was attacked,
05:36 I have taken my father's funeral in bullets,
05:39 and to stand with that same democracy,
05:42 to be committed to the constitution,
05:44 to be committed to the parliament,
05:46 Maulana Sahib was given this punishment,
05:48 and we are getting the same answer from there as well,
05:50 so what is the point of staying in this politics?
05:52 So today the request has gone to the general council,
05:55 that the general council should decide
05:57 that we do not want to be a part of parliamentary politics anymore,
06:00 we do not want to do parliamentary politics anymore,
06:02 we do not want to go to this assembly,
06:04 so until the general council decides this,
06:07 Maulana Sahib will sit in the assembly with the guards,
06:10 but when the general council decides
06:12 that we do not want to do parliamentary politics anymore,
06:14 then we will have a different direction.
06:15 If we do not do parliamentary politics,
06:17 then what will be the other direction?
06:19 I mean, God forbid, you will not take a step back,
06:21 you will not become an asecretarian organisation,
06:23 so what will happen?
06:24 Then what will happen to the JUI?
06:25 Like many others.
06:26 My opinion is that Maulana Fazlur Rahman is the only
06:30 Maulvi of Pakistan who has been given this credit
06:34 that he has given the privilege of taking a gun from people's hands
06:38 from the age of 27 to the age of 70 and voting.
06:42 This only credit goes to Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib,
06:45 the leader of Jamia Ulama Islam,
06:47 who has committed his workers, the mosque, the minbar,
06:49 and the inheritance of the Mehrab with the Ayin,
06:52 the parliament, and the democratic system.
06:56 You will not find a moderate leader like Maulana in the whole of Pakistan.
07:00 But today, when this attack will be made against Maulana Fazlur Rahman,
07:04 then what path will you leave for us?
07:07 When there will be no democratic path,
07:09 then there will be no path for the Jamia Ulama to take.
07:11 The Jamia Ulama will be free.
07:12 The general council will decide which path we will take.
07:15 Which means?
07:17 Any path, you are saying?
07:19 Any path.
07:21 I think that the hands of the Jamia Ulama
07:24 are not made for the vote.
07:30 Maybe the hands of the JUI are not made for the vote.
07:34 They are made for the revolution.
07:36 Now the general council will choose the path of revolution.
07:40 But whatever happens, it will not be militancy, right?
07:43 I cannot say anything on this right now.
07:49 Thank you very much for your time.