"Hamari 2008 Mein Bhi Ittehadi Hukoomat Thi, Yaad Karen Hum Ne..." Qamar Zaman Kaira Ka Aham Bayan
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00:00 Remember one thing Kashif, coalition governments are apparently weak and have a lot of losses.
00:07 They are good though, they have big checks.
00:09 In 2008 our government was like, just remember how many records we worked in that time.
00:14 The Indian Federation was amended, the NFC was implemented, Pakistan's record exports were read,
00:19 Pakistan's farmers were supported, the Mayor's Income Support Programme, like the programmes started,
00:24 a programme to get Pakistan out of global isolation started. We were a weak government, what was the benefit of that?
00:30 It was a soft-headed global isolation.
00:31 What was the benefit of that?
00:32 Musharraf was the Darling of the West.
00:34 What Darling?
00:35 You know that he was the Darling of the West.
00:37 You know how many Darlings there were.
00:38 But you know...
00:39 Listen, that was a time. And there, Darlings are there according to their needs.
00:43 They are not permanent, they keep changing.
00:45 But the question is...
00:47 I don't know if you are there or not.
00:49 No, we don't need you.
00:50 And if you are there, I don't know how long you will be there.
00:51 We only want the people of Pakistan.
00:53 The point is that right now, to get Pakistan out of this crisis, everyone needs to come together.
00:58 Sir, but then, come to this.
01:00 Many people are making noise, Maulana has sent them.
01:03 Do you think that...
01:05 You will convince him?
01:07 I am listening to him.
01:08 We will try.
01:09 Will you convince him that these circumstances or incidents are like this?
01:13 Look, Niha Sahib, Zardari Sahib, all people will go and convince Maulana.
01:16 Maulana, remember one thing, Maulana cannot go against the interests of the country.
01:20 There can be anger, there can be injustice.
01:23 But it is not possible that the country is suffering a loss and he says it should be done.
01:28 This can happen in some other people, not in him.
01:31 So you are saying that the people will be convinced?
01:35 I hope so.
01:37 Kashif, apart from this, do you think there is any other leader who wants Pakistan to suffer a loss?
01:43 Yes, but they are looking at it differently.
01:48 Maybe. Let's go.
01:50 I will come back to this.
01:51 General Sahib, you saw Maulana, do you see a resolution in the coming days or a failure?
01:58 Because, one party has come out.
02:01 What do you think, where will this matter go?
02:03 Inshallah, a resolution will come.
02:07 We should expect goodness.
02:09 You can keep in mind the past history of Maulana Fazlur Rahman.
02:13 He also did long marches.
02:15 He also held many gatherings.
02:18 But he never became violent.
02:21 He never protested.
02:23 He is a very smart and experienced leader.
02:27 If he has any grievances, he should listen to them.
02:31 And I am sure that on the other hand, people are receptive.
02:34 Whether it is Shahbaz Sharif, Nawaz Sharif or Asif Zardari.
02:38 They have special relations with him.
02:41 They will sit and listen to him and solve the issues.
02:43 The bigger problem is that the leadership of Tariq-e-Insaf should learn the lesson and move forward.
02:51 They should not make any deal on principles.
02:53 They should make good opposition.
02:54 They should sit in the parliament and give good criticism of the government.
03:00 And give good suggestions.
03:02 The first attitude was of the protests, long marches, shouting from outside, and Jammu.
03:08 Yesterday, a leader of the party said that the protests were held on 9th May.
03:13 Such things should not be taken forward.
03:16 You remember, you were the one who brought the protest.
03:19 Maulana sir brought the protest.
03:20 You were the leader of all the parties at the stage of the protest.
03:23 You were at the container.
03:24 The protest that came to Islamabad.
03:26 Long marches were held.
03:28 The government was given a difficult time.
03:31 It was not only in 2013-2018.
03:33 It was also in 2018.
03:35 We held a protest and went to the dispersement.
03:38 What are you saying?
03:39 They came and sat.
03:40 But you endorsed the protest.
03:43 We endorsed the protest but what did we do?
03:46 What did we demand?
03:47 We blocked the roads.
03:48 The government went.
03:49 We were not sitting.
03:50 We were demanding for the government.
03:52 You were sitting in the ground, in the D-chowk.
03:54 There was traffic there too.
03:56 We blocked the government.
03:58 There are also halal and haram protests.
04:00 There is no such thing as halal and haram protests.
04:03 People come to the world protesting.
04:05 People keep going to the protests.
04:07 We did the protest.
04:08 Now there is a protest on the missing person.
04:09 What will we do?
04:10 The system of life should not be affected.
04:13 Imran Khan's protest and our protest.
04:15 You have blocked the roads for 3-4 months.
04:18 Make us also sit with the government.
04:19 We came one day, we held a protest and left.
04:22 The protest lasted for 4 days.
04:24 And they are saying, "Accept it."
04:26 We have come to the wrong place.
04:28 I am telling you that protesting is wrong.
04:30 It is not wrong.
04:31 Then?
04:32 I am telling you that it is right.
04:33 Then what are you asking?
04:35 The purpose of the protest was to get Mr. Mian out.
04:38 It was achieved.
04:39 Then what are we doing?