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00:00 Welcome back, Nasi. Post election transmission, if you will, what is happening, there are
00:23 people running to form a government, because everyone knows why, but people are running to form a government. I will start with you, Wasim.
00:32 One, MKM's delegation is going to Lahore to meet, that is a big news, that they are meeting today, tell us the date. And the second, that the Muslim League Noon and People's Party will meet in Multavi.
00:46 This means that the Muslim League Noon had time to meet, is it because of People's Party that they met in Multavi?
00:54 Quickly tell us, Murad Ali Shah is with me on the line. I just spoke to Governor Singh, they are just taking off, and they will land at around 10pm.
01:05 They are meeting Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz, and they are responding to the call from the Governor.
01:15 Is the plane being used by the Governor?
01:17 If they are going by themselves, then it means they are taking off.
01:21 At 8pm, no flight is taking off from Karachi.
01:23 Yes, yes, there is no flight today.
01:25 We know about the flights, I have done the flights today.
01:29 Murad Ali Shah, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
01:31 How are you?
01:33 I am fine, Murad Ali Shah, am I talking to the next Chief Minister of Sindh?
01:37 I think you asked me this question the other day, I told, I responded, that we don't have any candidate, the party decides who is going to be.
01:45 There will be about 115 candidates for Chief Ministership, and the party will decide who will be.
01:51 Sir, if there are so many, then you can put my name too.
01:53 No, if you are elected, then you too.
01:55 You are an MLA, right?
01:57 I will answer this, if you are an MLA of the elected Pakistan People's Party, then you are absolutely right.
02:01 Sir, put my name, and on this basis, you can deny that I am not an MLA.
02:05 There will be 115-116, sir.
02:07 To keep my heart.
02:09 Keep my heart, let's go.
02:11 Sir, tell me, obviously, a series of government schemes has started.
02:15 Today, the first news came that a meeting is expected.
02:17 Mr. Zardari and Mr. Bilawal are going, Jati Umrah, and then it was said that there is a request.
02:23 Do you know why there is a request?
02:25 I don't know if today's meeting was scheduled.
02:29 But I do know that Bilawal Bhutto Zardari has said, and our party's policy is that the Central Executive Committee of the party has decided that Bilawal Bhutto Zardari will be the candidate for Prime Minister.
02:45 So, we have given permission to the CEC to make a government.
02:50 If we have to make a government together, then definitely, our leadership, that is, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, and Asim Ali Zardari, will consult with the Central Executive Committee.
03:02 And his meeting is expected, whether it happens tomorrow or the day after, I don't have a date or time right now.
03:08 After that, there will be a position to talk to any partner for any cooperation.
03:14 Mr. Guman, you wanted to ask something.
03:17 Mr. Shah, congratulations. Your Chief Minister'ship has won a record number of seats.
03:25 Certainly, the credit that goes to the Chief Minister is to take credit.
03:30 My fundamental question is that, obviously, you are the mayor of Karachi.
03:37 So, the result of Karachi, as per your expectations, how many seats were you expecting?
03:42 What do you think? What is your reaction to this?
03:46 First of all, Mr. Khawar, thank you very much.
03:48 But this credit is not mine.
03:50 This credit is of every worker of the Pakistan People's Party, who, especially in the last flood,
03:56 from Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari to an ordinary worker, stayed with the people.
04:01 And I, perhaps I said in your program, but I remember a press conference, which I am sure went on ARY as well.
04:09 And the ARY correspondents were there.
04:11 I said that, yes, by taking out two seats of Karachi and Hyderabad, out of 61, 37 seats, the rest are in rural Sindh.
04:20 And we are winning 37 out of 37.
04:23 Alhamdulillah, not only did we win, but we won with a good margin.
04:27 Then I said that there are two seats of Hyderabad.
04:31 Out of them, we are in a good position to win, the seats of urban Hyderabad.
04:37 Unfortunately, I was wrong. We lost both those seats.
04:41 In Karachi, I had claimed that we would win 8 to 12 seats.
04:46 And the reasons for that were, and on that basis I said that our overall tally would be between 45 and 50.
04:53 Unfortunately, I was wrong. One was left out. We won 44 seats.
04:58 We won 60 seats from Karachi out of 22.
05:01 It is very surprising for me.
05:03 And winning 15 seats of the Mutahida Qaumi Movement is surprising for me.
05:08 I thought that we would be the largest Jamaat in Karachi and we would win at least 8 seats.
05:14 And the rest of the seats would be less than 8 for the Jamaats, including the Mutahida Qaumi Movement.
05:20 I thought that PTI backed independents would win 3 to 4 seats.
05:25 Jamaat-e-Islami was also in a position to win 1 to 2 seats.
05:28 So, yes, it is a surprise for me.
05:30 And I have just reached Karachi from my constituency.
05:33 So, definitely we will sit together and see what the reasons were for our winning.
05:39 Do you have any doubts that something has gone wrong in Karachi?
05:42 Do you have any doubts in counting or in counting?
05:44 I am listening to these news, I am watching it on the media, I am reading it on social media.
05:49 I have not spoken to any party's responsible person yet.
05:54 I have not spoken to Saeed Ghani Sahib yet, who is our Divisional President of Karachi.
05:59 I have not spoken to him yet, what has happened and what are the reasons.
06:02 But I am listening to this without knowing the actual facts.
06:06 I can't comment that something like this has happened.
06:08 Will you challenge the results of Karachi?
06:10 Have you decided on a final decision in any of the elections?
06:14 Look, there are many seats that I have seen, especially of the Provincial Assembly,
06:21 in which our margin is very less from the winning candidate.
06:25 And definitely the candidate has his own efforts to be challenged.
06:32 There are different stages.
06:34 In the first stage, the RO has a challenge.
06:37 Then there is a stage where you can appeal to the Election Commission.
06:40 And in the third stage, you can go to the Tribunal.
06:43 So, I am sure the close seats and if they have valid reasons to challenge,
06:49 then they will definitely challenge the candidate.
06:51 Murad Ali Shah Sahib, you said you have got a surprise in many places.
06:56 In Karachi specifically, if you can tell us which seats have surprised you the most?
07:03 Surprisingly lost or surprisingly won?
07:05 The others won and they lost.
07:07 The ones you lost, which surprised you the most.
07:10 The one that we lost?
07:11 Yes.
07:12 Look, two seats that I think we should have won, NA240, I don't remember the numbers, 235.
07:21 Which one?
07:22 The seat of Karachi East, under which PS97 and PS98 are.
07:27 Unfortunately, we have lost all three seats.
07:29 We will have to see why we are losing.
07:31 PS97, we are losing by a few hundred votes.
07:35 And PS98, again, I don't know exactly, it doesn't make much difference.
07:39 So, I think NA235 is the seat that we should have won.
07:43 Actually, NA244 is the seat in which our candidate Bar Sahib was.
07:49 And the seats under it were PS116 and PS118.
07:54 Unfortunately, we won 116 and lost 118.
07:59 So, we should have won these seats, NA244.
08:04 So, this is the seat of our Kewari, which we should have won.
08:11 And we won the seat of Qadir Patel, under which Qadir Mandokhil was.
08:16 And because we have won this seat before, and the candidates who win this seat are in 6th position in that election.
08:24 So, we thought that we will win this seat.
08:27 But we didn't win that either, so we will have to see what the reasons are.
08:31 Murad Ali Shah Sahib, the results that have been announced, the Urban Sindh mandate has been given to MKM.
08:39 Although, for the government, especially in the province, you don't need MKM at all.
08:45 But, as a gesture of kindness, can you invite them to join the government, People's Party?
08:52 And secondly, you know that when MKM comes, there are some demands.
08:58 I will answer you.
09:01 When we were making coalition government with PDM, they demanded their governor.
09:10 We didn't have the governor, because it was the federal government who had to give it.
09:16 They made many other demands, which we accepted, just because we didn't want the country to fall into more problems.
09:27 We don't need MKM.
09:30 And secondly, you said that the Urban Sindh mandate has been given to them.
09:35 I am surprised that this has happened.
09:38 Because, a year ago, when local government elections were taking place, we had requested MKM to fight the elections.
09:49 And they were not ready to fight the elections.
09:52 And their words were that we don't even have a polling agent to fight the elections.
09:57 And suddenly, elections have taken place, and we don't even have a polling agent.
10:03 Suddenly, they have become so popular, it is surprising.
10:07 We will have to see.
10:09 Secondly, MKM in the past, in the leadership of their leader, in this province, in this city, they have spread a lot of terrorism.
10:23 And to end that terrorism, our army, our police, our rangers have accepted martyrdoms.
10:31 With great difficulty, political governments, military establishments, all military establishments, for want of a better word, have established peace and harmony in this city.
10:40 Yesterday, I heard a few statements that the tone of MKM was very aggressive.
10:48 So, if the tone remains like this, we will not be able to work with them.
10:52 For us, peace and harmony in this city is more important than government.
10:57 So, we will have to tell them that these things are not acceptable for us.
11:02 That you go back to the mode where you spread terrorism and give such statements.
11:08 We don't need anyone.
11:10 If the federal government needs, the position at the moment is that if, as you just said,
11:16 I was listening to you, that the MP of MKM, in which there is a meeting with Mr. Shabaz Sharif,
11:24 so if they can form a government together, both parties, they are most welcome.
11:30 But they don't have the numbers.
11:32 So, they will have to think a lot about how to move forward.
11:35 We cannot put the peace and harmony of this country, especially the peace and harmony of this city, at stake just to take over.
11:42 Thank you very much.
11:43 This is a comment, definitely.
11:44 The decision of the community is still made by looking at the seats.
11:47 This time, they have removed Malir, Kemari and Karachi East.
11:56 Yes, looking at the seats.
11:57 Three of Kemari.
11:58 Three of Kemari.
11:59 We were taking predictions of Kemari, I said that Malir will remove them.
12:02 I said that one of two will be removed, he has removed only one.
12:04 He is surprised at the other, I am not surprised.
12:06 Four, one has been removed, the defense one.
12:10 In that, Mr. Iqtiyar Baig has won, Khurram Sherzaman has lost, Farooq Sattar has lost, everyone has lost.
12:14 In that, Mr. Iqtiyar Baig has won.
12:15 He is the fifth.
12:16 In that, you said that Mr. Iqtiyar Baig is the third.
12:18 And he was also very much.
12:21 And Mr. Badami.
12:22 One second, understand, these are five seats.
12:24 We have to go to Punjab.
12:25 These are the five seats, the rest two.
12:27 Just a small question to Mr. Badami.
12:28 Remove it from East.
12:29 Three of them have taken from Korangi.
12:30 Yes.
12:31 It comes from your side that Karachi's politics is in your eyes.
12:35 Any surprise for you?
12:36 Any result that will make you shudder?
12:40 Alamgir.
12:41 Alamgir, I said that if PTI, I mean Karachi, will win just one seat, then I will say that
12:47 the defense one wins.
12:48 Mr. Iqtiyar Baig.
12:49 Yes.
12:50 So, I think that.
12:51 So, when Murad Ali Shah was talking about surprise, his opponents were surprised that
12:55 this is the People's Party.
12:56 But remember one more thing.
12:58 They said that we expected that PTI led or backed independents will take three to four
13:04 seats.
13:05 The party always looks like a conservative figure.
13:07 Exactly.
13:08 And surprises will be above that.
13:09 But Mr. Badami, what are you doing here?
13:11 Exactly.
13:12 PTI has not taken from Karachi.
13:14 Listen to me.
13:15 You were once told to go to that side and tell us about the other big opponents of Punjab.
13:19 You were questioning me.
13:20 I said I will do it later.
13:21 Don't mind.
13:22 I will leave.
13:23 Don't mind.
13:24 Go to your place.
13:25 You were saying something.
13:26 Quickly say it.
13:27 By the time I reach.
13:28 The justice of the people has not taken anything from Karachi or Rawalpindi.
13:31 You are not showing anything from here at all.
13:34 No presence at all.
13:35 This is for Kashif Bhai.
13:36 Okay, then we will move forward.
13:38 We had covered Pindi.
13:39 See, there was nothing to come out of Rawalpindi.
13:41 So let's move forward.
13:42 After that, you reached to Mr. Manan Mohan Rai.
13:44 If PTI's matter was good in Pindi, then Manan sir would have said Pindi.
13:47 Pindi, Islamabad, Karachi, Safaya.
13:48 I am skipping Gujarat now because the result is yet to be stopped.
13:51 You are skipping Gujarat now.
13:52 This is the same Salik Sahab's.
13:53 Kaisera, Elahi Sahab's.
13:54 In which Salik Sahab won with 25,000.
13:55 So it has stopped now.
13:56 I am coming quickly to Sialkot.
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