Las Vegas Raiders Insider Podcast: the Case for Luke Getsy and the Respect Around the NFL He Has, AP & Tom Telesco and More
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00:00 Hi everybody, welcome to Sports Illustrated's Fan Nation Las Vegas Raiders Insider Podcast.
00:08 I'm your host, Hondo Carpenter.
00:09 It's great to talk to you today.
00:11 Welcome to Super Bowl week.
00:13 Both teams are here in Vegas.
00:14 They got in last night.
00:17 Excited to have you guys with me today.
00:19 We're going to talk a lot about Luke Getzey today.
00:23 If you missed the reporting yesterday on our site, Luke Getzey and the Raiders are working
00:30 to finish a deal.
00:32 Someone asked me just literally moments ago on social media, some of y'all like me, you
00:38 don't sleep, but asked me, "Hey Hondo, is the fact we're not hearing anything, anything
00:45 with what happened like with Cliff?"
00:47 No.
00:48 I said it yesterday and I'll say it again.
00:53 There was an agreement.
00:56 We want to work together.
00:58 It didn't happen.
00:59 Cliff backed out.
01:00 Now, Cliff is going to be with the commanders probably.
01:05 That's okay.
01:06 It wasn't the end of the world.
01:07 It wasn't the end of the world at all.
01:09 I'm going to get into Luke Getzey.
01:12 I want to explain a little bit of where I'm coming on this today and then we're going
01:16 to dive right in because there's a lot about him I don't think that a lot of people know
01:22 or understand.
01:24 I'm going to let you in a little bit into the interview and then we're going to move
01:29 on from there.
01:30 First of all, Luke Getzey, if you go only on the numbers and you don't do a deep dive,
01:37 completely failed in Chicago.
01:40 That's factual.
01:41 You can't deny that.
01:43 When people only look at one set of figures and say, "Oh my God, this guy's terrible.
01:51 The sky's falling."
01:54 That's absolutely germane.
01:56 You're looking at the bears saying, "I don't want to be the bears.
01:58 If the bears didn't want this guy, why do we want him?"
02:02 All legitimate points.
02:03 But we're going to do a deep dive today into Getzey because I think when you begin to know
02:08 him, his background and some things that he's done, I think it begins to open up a new purview
02:17 for you.
02:18 Now, I want to go back because when AP was first hired, I told you this was going to
02:24 happen.
02:25 You can go back.
02:26 This is what I love about the digital age.
02:27 You can go back and see everything is time-stamped.
02:31 I told you to look at Patrick Graham.
02:34 Now, Patrick Graham, when he was with the Patriots, had a lot of people talking about
02:39 him as a potential head football coach because he's a great coach.
02:43 Patrick Graham's not a good coach.
02:44 He's a great coach.
02:46 He goes to the Giants where everybody has a boss.
02:53 He goes to the Giants and the defense was okay.
03:00 It wasn't fantastic.
03:02 It wasn't stellar in the least, but he did what his boss told him he wanted done.
03:09 You can go back and watch an interview I did when the Raiders first hired him with Giants
03:16 beat writer Patricia Trena.
03:20 I also talked about this on Raider Nation Radio.
03:23 I think it was with Q Myers at the time.
03:27 When I mentioned a lot of people are going to judge him by what happened at the Giants
03:31 and say, "Why are the Raiders taking this guy?
03:33 It's just because he's a Patriot."
03:36 I made it very abundantly clear that this guy was a great football coach and that the
03:41 situation dictated the result more than he did.
03:49 I told everybody, "This is a guy that should be a head coach.
03:51 This was a great hire."
03:53 I'm not saying that to Pat Hondo.
03:54 I'm going back so you can see where I'm going here with Getze.
04:00 Last year, I wrote and talked about on the podcast how fortunate the Raiders were to
04:03 have Patrick Graham back.
04:05 I'm not saying it again this year.
04:07 Anytime you come back to a new season and Patrick Graham is your defensive coordinator,
04:11 it's worthy of celebration.
04:13 He's that good.
04:15 He's a Vic Fangio, Spags kind of guy.
04:18 He's very well respected and very well could be, if not the smartest, excuse me, one of
04:27 the smartest people in the NFL.
04:34 Hondo knew.
04:37 There are times in my career where I've been judged when I had a boss.
04:42 He knew about last year.
04:44 The Raiders' defense was good.
04:46 Josh McDaniels gets canned and he turns Patrick Graham loose.
04:50 It was the best in the NFL.
04:51 He understood that.
04:53 He knew that.
04:54 I told you this.
04:56 He was not going to be moved by success or lack of success by previous coordinator positions.
05:06 He wanted to, if he felt guys' resumes showed some substantive success, he wanted to go
05:18 over that somewhere.
05:19 Now, that is the systemology of Antonio Pierce.
05:23 He doesn't like to judge books by covers.
05:26 I really respect him for that.
05:28 You may not.
05:29 That's fine.
05:30 But I do.
05:31 I think people that are smart enough to just say, "You know what?
05:34 There's more here than just let's flame.
05:39 Let's just throw somebody away."
05:43 I'm a person that believes you look at everything.
05:47 He is too.
05:48 Now, I want to go back because a lot of you carry a ton of respect for Bill Parcells,
05:53 as do I.
05:54 One of the greatest coaches to ever coach.
05:56 I think he's on the Mount Rushmore.
06:00 Bill Parcells, you may remember, said, "If I'm a cook dinner, let me buy the groceries."
06:06 He was talking about, "If I'm going to go somewhere and be a head coach, I want control
06:11 over personnel."
06:12 Now, that for a coordinator is, "If you're going to have me be your coordinator, give
06:21 me a say.
06:24 Let me tell you what I want to do."
06:26 They meet with Getty.
06:32 One of the things that I have been told by two different people who are extremely familiar
06:36 with the interviewing process, and I'm going to leave it right there, is one of the things
06:41 that has greatly impressed people about Antonio Pierce is he knows these candidates backwards,
06:47 forwards, and he asks them very, very difficult and tough questions.
06:53 You failed here.
06:55 Why?
06:57 And there's no glossing over anything.
06:59 He asks every question.
07:03 So as they begin to talk to Getzny, he was very thorough.
07:10 There was no dancing around anything that was negative.
07:13 He just took it right on what happened.
07:17 I was also told that there were some things that he could have thrown people under the
07:22 bus and made them look really bad, where he stayed factual, but not flaming.
07:31 And I want to talk to you about him and about some things that stood out.
07:36 Now he played quarterback in college, played at Pittsburgh for two years, and then he goes
07:41 to Akron.
07:43 And while he's in Akron, he leads them to their first title, the first title ever, conference
07:51 title, and they win a bowl game.
07:53 So he had success as a player on the field.
07:55 Someone may say, "Well, it's only at Akron."
07:57 Yeah, you're right.
07:58 It is.
07:59 And so has Ben Roethlisberger and a bunch of other people.
08:01 The point of the matter is he competed at a Division I level and accomplished things,
08:07 championships.
08:09 And does that mean everybody that played quarterback or played in a MAAC school and won a title
08:14 is going to be a great head coach?
08:16 No, but it's laying the foundation.
08:18 So the first thing he does, he goes and wins a championship in college, but he showed some
08:25 tremendous leadership ability.
08:28 Now that opened the door for him, so much so, he goes back.
08:34 He is a grad assistant at Akron.
08:37 And then he goes in Pittsburgh, even though he transferred, wanted him back because he
08:41 showed such tremendous leadership skills.
08:44 And he was there under Dave Wonstad, who many of you know is a defensive mind.
08:49 I'm going somewhere with this, so stick with me.
08:54 Some bullsmoles wanted him back, which shows a leadership ability and character.
09:00 That's a big deal.
09:01 Now, then, and this is a big then, he gets some time to work with Dave Wonstad, who's
09:09 a defensive mind.
09:10 And I can see some of you, you're throwing stuff at your screen, mad at me.
09:13 "I don't care about defense.
09:14 He's a coordinator."
09:15 Okay, just listen.
09:18 But he shared things he learned about leadership from Wonstad, who has not had a tremendous
09:25 career as a head coach, but he was extremely successful as an assistant and did do some
09:32 things as a head coach.
09:33 Wasn't extremely successful, but did do some things, but explained, "Hey, I learned this
09:38 about leadership at a high level from Dave Wonstad."
09:42 And it was things that he learned that the Raiders covet and want in a leader.
09:49 So that was a big deal, even though he's a defensive guy, he learned things about...
09:53 That's like saying, "You know what?
09:55 I don't want a head coach.
09:56 I mean, I don't want a coordinator, an offensive coordinator who coached with Bill Parcells
10:02 or coached with Bill Belichick because they're defensive guys."
10:05 It means nothing.
10:06 No, it means everything because you still learn stuff from them.
10:10 You still get things from them and it's part of your DNA of who you are as a coach.
10:15 So they went all the way back.
10:17 Why do you think Pittsburgh wanted you back?
10:19 Why do you think Akron?
10:20 Because most schools, they only keep those GA spots.
10:23 There's just a few of them and they're precious.
10:25 It's free coaches, basically.
10:26 I mean, they get paid something, but it's nothing.
10:30 You want to know the most underappreciated people in the world of football?
10:34 It's college GAs.
10:35 They work about a hundred hours a week and get nothing in return.
10:38 Well, essentially nothing.
10:41 They're slaves.
10:44 That's the wrong term.
10:45 That's disrespectful.
10:46 I don't want to say that.
10:48 They are very cheaply paid labor.
10:50 Let's leave it there.
10:51 I apologize for using the other term.
10:53 That wasn't a proper term.
10:55 Let's keep moving.
10:56 So then from there, he goes to Western Michigan where he coaches with my good friend, PJ Fleck,
11:01 who's now the head coach at Minnesota.
11:04 And so he learns there and did a tremendous job, tremendous job at WMU with PJ Fleck.
11:16 Great, great job working on that offensive staff.
11:20 And everyone knows what PJ did at Western Michigan was phenomenal.
11:23 But again, what'd you learn from PJ?
11:27 What'd you learn about that process?
11:28 No, it wasn't like the SEC or the Big Ten, but it certainly was at a Division I level.
11:35 What'd you learn?
11:36 And oh, by the way, when they were there, they had tremendous...
11:51 Building the DNA.
11:52 Now, if you're going to dismiss all of this, that's fine.
11:56 You're certainly allowed to, but Albert Einstein had to learn math somewhere.
12:03 And so while we don't dismiss him as a physicist and a scientist because of what he did at
12:11 the end of his career, you got to look at everything that built up to who he was in
12:14 his career.
12:15 It's like people who want to discount Mike Krzyzewski coaching at Army.
12:22 Well, you see all the success he had at Duke, but he's personally told me, Mike Krzyzewski,
12:28 he would have never been the coach at Duke that he was, had he not coached at Army.
12:34 This is being thorough.
12:36 Just we're going to go through and be thorough and look at everything that you do.
12:40 So then he goes to...
12:41 I'm trying to think of how I want to word this.
12:51 Give me a second.
12:52 Yeah, I'll word it that way.
13:02 Then his career continues to progress, but then he gets an opportunity to go to Mississippi
13:06 State.
13:10 Not a perennial power, not a school loaded with a ton of talent in the SEC.
13:17 In the SEC.
13:20 This is, I jumped a little bit, but I'm not jumping anything bad.
13:24 I'm jumping for the sake of time.
13:26 He gets to Mississippi State.
13:28 Let me just share some of these figures with you.
13:32 Why he is the OC there, they average 29 points a game, which I thought was a very, very big
13:45 deal, 11th in strength of schedule at 397 yards of offense a game and one turnover against
13:55 an SEC schedule with Mississippi State talent.
14:00 He shined.
14:01 Now to Mississippi State's credit, they let him dictate the offense.
14:09 So that's the first time where he cooked the dinner and made the groceries.
14:15 And he wowed a bunch of NFL people.
14:18 After that year, NFL people were like, we got to get this guy to the NFL.
14:23 He won a ton of respect.
14:26 And because he ran the offense, the head coach was extremely complimentary of him.
14:31 They were very like, hey, this guy's super.
14:34 His ability to read things, analyze things, watch film.
14:37 He took an undermanned Mississippi State team against SEC talent and allowed them to not
14:46 only be competitive, but put up that many yards.
14:52 That job of just controlling and discipline, that was the thing, success and discipline.
14:59 That is what AP loved.
15:02 He's a thinker.
15:03 He's outside the box.
15:05 He's not married to any system.
15:08 I shared this with you before.
15:10 Antonio Pierce wants a staff that's married to winning.
15:14 You're not always going to get your first draft pick choice.
15:17 It's not going to happen.
15:19 I shared with you guys before.
15:21 Dave Sneeler wanted CJ Stroud.
15:23 Josh McDaniels didn't.
15:26 So they didn't get CJ Stroud.
15:28 Would this team look different than him?
15:31 No.
15:32 Another plan was if somebody offers us enough, we're willing to give up our spot, trade down
15:38 and then get Kalei Jekansi, the defensive tackle out of Pittsburgh, who's now with the
15:43 Buccaneers.
15:44 But when their pick came, they were very surprised that Tyree had fallen.
15:53 And so did they get offers?
15:55 They sure did.
15:56 But they didn't think any offer exceeded the value they had on Tyree.
16:00 So they took Tyree and look how Tyree turned out at the end of the year, playing extremely
16:04 well.
16:06 You never know who you're going to get.
16:10 You may go into something thinking, I'm going to share a story.
16:12 I know an NFL team of the Lions who were 100% convinced they were going to go get this guy
16:19 free agency.
16:21 They want it.
16:22 Matt Millen was the general manager.
16:24 They wanted this guy.
16:25 They were going to go get him.
16:27 All signs indicated the Lions were going to get him.
16:29 They're thinking we're going to go this direction.
16:31 Bam, first day of free agency, somebody just threw a stupid offer on the table.
16:37 And I mean stupid.
16:38 Lions were going to offer big.
16:41 This was stupid.
16:42 And they lost him.
16:43 Okay.
16:44 You just never know how the process works out.
16:48 I met my wife on September 9th of 1981.
16:51 Thought I was 10, she was eight.
16:53 Thought I was going to marry her.
16:55 No, she made me wait.
16:56 Didn't want to get married as an eight year old.
16:59 But my point was, you never know how things work out.
17:04 You never know.
17:07 How many, I remember years ago, and I wasn't covering the Raiders at the time, but they
17:10 signed Warren Sapp.
17:12 Man, people went crazy.
17:16 Didn't work out the way people thought it was going to work out.
17:20 I remember Matt Millen.
17:22 I remember Matt.
17:23 And you guys have heard him tell me this story.
17:26 He had a podcast calling Al Davis and saying, "Al, listen, you don't want Jamarcus Russell."
17:32 No, I do.
17:33 I don't know if he said he did or what.
17:36 He just kind of blew Matt off.
17:39 And he thought Matt was trying to get him to pass over Jamarcus so he could pick him.
17:46 How'd that work out?
17:50 There were some people that wore silver and gold that thought picking Damon Arnett was
17:53 a great choice.
17:56 How'd that work out?
17:59 You just never know.
18:01 Do I think the new regime would pick a Damon Arnett?
18:04 No.
18:05 No.
18:06 But the point is, you never know.
18:09 And so you have to have people that are malleable and people who can adapt.
18:20 And that's what AP is looking for.
18:22 He wants people in his staff who are, you know, "Okay, this is what we got."
18:28 There's a scene in the movie, Apollo 13, where the astronauts are caught up in space.
18:36 And the actor walks in and he says, "This is everything they have in their capsule.
18:43 If we don't design a way to make a filter so they can get some fresh oxygen, they're
18:51 all going to die.
18:54 This is all that they have.
18:58 Failure is not an option.
18:59 Make it happen."
19:01 That if you wanted to know one area to depict Antonio Pierce's coaching style, that's it.
19:06 I don't want any excuses.
19:08 I don't want to know what you don't have.
19:10 Every year, me and Tom are going to give you what you got.
19:13 Go make something of it.
19:16 Now I'll get to that in a minute, but I think that's very, very important.
19:20 So then he goes to the Packers.
19:28 And I want to talk about this because he starts as an offensive quality control coach and
19:34 then goes to wide receiver coach.
19:37 So I'm going to tell you a couple of things about him.
19:39 So he's there with Mike McCarthy and Matt LaFleur.
19:43 Now I know that Dallas fans are not fans of Mike McCarthy, but there are a lot of people
19:49 around the NFL who think Mike McCarthy is not the problem at all in Dallas.
19:54 There's other problems.
19:55 And I agree with them, by the way.
19:57 He learns a ton from Mike McCarthy and Matt LaFleur.
20:00 Now they bring him in from Mississippi State because of what they saw.
20:07 They loved his offensive ingenuity and they loved how creative he was with what he had.
20:12 So he comes in and gets he instantly.
20:15 They're telling him, we want you helping us.
20:20 Yeah, you're a quality control coach.
20:22 Yeah, you're an offensive coach, a wide receiver coach eventually.
20:26 Wasn't that right first.
20:28 But you have carte blanche to speak on this offense.
20:32 And he began to speak.
20:34 He began to say, okay, well, you want to know what I, and they would say, what do you think,
20:38 Lou?
20:39 And he would tell them, okay, I do this, I do that.
20:41 He was very instrumental in that offense.
20:44 And remember they had Aaron Rogers, they had Devante Adams, they had a ton of success.
20:51 And LaFleur and McCarthy will tell you, Getzey was a huge part of it.
20:56 In fact, had LaFleur left, Getzey was going to be the offensive coordinator.
21:01 So he was so good.
21:05 And the bearers who are in the NFC Norris, I know it's the North, but when you're from
21:10 where I grew up in Michigan, you call it the Norris after the old hockey division.
21:19 They were so impressed with how he had impacted it.
21:23 And they knew he was going to be the OC if LaFleur had moved on, that he ends up going
21:33 to the bears.
21:34 Now let's talk about the bears.
21:36 Da Bears.
21:40 He's told by Ever Flutes and he's told by the bears, this is what we want.
21:46 Okay, now I want you to hear me for a minute.
21:49 How many remember the stories?
21:50 If you don't go back and Google them.
21:52 I realize most of you will, but some of you it's going to take time and you would rather
21:57 just flame, so that's fine.
21:59 But go back and look at how frustrated Justin Fields was with his coaches.
22:05 Okay, very frustrating.
22:09 Because they were trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
22:14 It didn't work.
22:16 And the problem was, is Getzey was doing what his bosses told him to do.
22:24 That's what they told him to do.
22:28 So Fields is frustrated, which quite frankly, I think he should have been.
22:35 But Getzey did what Getzey was told to do.
22:40 So Fields gets hurt.
22:45 He now has a quarterback, a UDFA quarterback, which did a lot of interesting things.
22:54 Getzey was able to help him.
22:56 Now still within the parameter of what the coaches wanted, but more than one person.
23:04 In fact, I was in Chicago for the game where the Raiders lost to them.
23:09 And you can go back and hear my post game podcast and all that and hear me talking about
23:15 the young kid and some things that he did.
23:17 I'm walking out and one of the Bears coaches who I'm friends with said to me, "That was
23:24 all Getzey today.
23:26 The fact that we even found a way to get enough points to win."
23:30 He goes, "That was a miracle."
23:34 So the success in Chicago would make you think, "Oh man, no, but what about the success in
23:40 Green Bay?
23:41 What about the success at Mississippi State?"
23:44 So then we come to this off season and I told you guys, he was very respected around the
23:50 NFL.
23:51 I got a lot of laughs out of Flamers, but four teams interviewed him for offensive coordinator
23:57 this year.
23:59 Does that not tell you that they probably saw, and there was significant interest, significant
24:05 interest.
24:09 There was still one and maybe two offensive coordinator jobs that he probably, one more
24:14 for sure he was going to get an offer.
24:16 And another one, I was told by someone in that organization was probably going to get
24:20 an offer.
24:21 So two for sure, Raiders and another team, and probably a third was going to get an offer.
24:27 So that tells you there's great respect there.
24:30 It was hilarious watching.
24:32 I actually had fun with it.
24:33 I had somebody in the organization send me a tweet, a screenshot of somebody putting
24:40 up a GIF of a bunch of people laughing because I called them respected.
24:45 And they go, "How many people are offering this guy hundreds of thousands of dollars
24:51 to lead their NFL offense?"
24:53 Yeah, he's laughing at Getze.
24:54 It was cute.
24:55 It was funny.
24:56 I promise not mad about it.
24:58 I thought it was pretty funny.
25:00 And so he is extremely well respected.
25:03 People still remember what he did in Green Bay.
25:06 People still remember what he did at Mississippi State.
25:09 They like his ability to grow players.
25:16 But it's not his fault when he's told, "This is what we want the offense to look like,
25:21 and here's what you're going to do."
25:25 And so Tom Telesco did an interview this week, and it wasn't with any national media.
25:33 It was some high school football coaches.
25:36 But in there, they were talking to him about the draft.
25:40 And he talked about, "I don't even know what we're going to do yet."
25:43 And he did it.
25:44 I think he did the interview on Saturday or Sunday.
25:47 And I've been telling you, they have no idea what they're going to do.
25:49 I'm going to get to this in a minute.
25:52 But so it's, they want to find out what, and Telesco talked about, "We want to know what
25:57 the offensive coordinator wants to do, so then we can figure out what we're going to
26:01 do."
26:02 And that really impressed them.
26:04 It really impressed them.
26:06 He was, his character impressed them.
26:10 The way he was able to explain failure without trashing people, nobody wants that.
26:16 I always laugh when I interview people for jobs.
26:18 If you come in trashing your ex-boss, I'm just not going to hire you because is that
26:23 what you do?
26:24 You walk out flaming people?
26:26 Really?
26:29 And you know what, you can say, "This didn't work out, that didn't work out," and whatever.
26:33 But here's why I think it would be different here.
26:36 And you can do things in a way that show character and show integrity.
26:42 And he did that.
26:45 And the Raiders were extremely impressed with him.
26:48 Now you have every right to not be.
26:52 There's nothing wrong with that.
26:54 I don't have zero issues with anyone that says, "I don't like the Getzey hire."
26:58 Just like there are people that say, "I don't like the AP hire.
27:00 I have no problem with that."
27:04 None.
27:06 None.
27:07 Because you're entitled to that opinion.
27:09 And many of you have delivered germane reasons why you don't like those hires.
27:17 I can't argue with that.
27:18 Okay.
27:19 Okay.
27:20 I'm good with that.
27:21 I've had people saying to me, "I don't want to watch your podcast because you're not a
27:28 Raider fan."
27:29 Okay.
27:30 I accept that.
27:31 There's lots of great podcasts out there that are done by fans.
27:35 I've been a guest on several of them.
27:38 They're great podcasts.
27:39 Good people.
27:40 I've had people saying, "I'm not going to watch your podcast because you mentioned the
27:44 Lurk."
27:45 Okay.
27:46 That's fine.
27:47 I don't preach on here, but I'm not going to be silent about the absolute most important
27:52 thing in my life.
27:55 And I can't be.
27:57 But I understand.
27:58 I get that.
27:59 It's not for everyone.
28:01 And so I don't have a problem with anybody that says, "I don't like the AP hire."
28:05 I think it was a great hire.
28:07 I don't like the Getzee hire.
28:09 Okay.
28:10 Now, let's be honest.
28:12 If I was hiring an OC, would I have gone the direction of Getzee?
28:19 I would have interviewed him.
28:23 There are a couple other people that I think I would have probably looked at additionally,
28:30 but not having sat down to interview them and Getzee together, not together, but within
28:34 a close proximity, I don't know what I would have done.
28:38 I would have for sure given Getzee an interview, but I don't know what I've done because I
28:42 would have thought there was a couple other guys that maybe they would have interviewed,
28:45 but they were guys that they didn't feel like fit the culture, which makes complete sense.
28:51 And it's AP's culture.
28:52 It's not Hondo's culture.
28:55 But I think the Getzee hire was a good hire.
28:57 He is respected around the NFL.
29:00 Do we know what he's going to do?
29:02 Of course not.
29:03 And he may end up being, I think he's a great hire at this point, but we're going to see
29:13 what he does down the road.
29:15 There are people who say, "Look at all the screens."
29:17 A ton of screens in Chicago.
29:22 And I think the screen game is very important to a running game.
29:27 I think there were times it was overdone, but he had a boss.
29:32 I know a guy who was an offensive coordinator in the NFL who had a coach that went for it
29:43 all the time.
29:44 A lot.
29:45 Not all the time, but a lot went for it in Forked Town.
29:51 And it was very frustrating for him.
29:54 I remember that after the season that year, we went out and went on a hunting trip together
29:58 because I do a hunting trip every year after the year.
30:02 And he was voicing to me, he goes, "I'm getting killed for lack of success on the practice
30:09 plan.
30:10 He doesn't want to give me a lot of time to practice it.
30:13 And number two, he's having me go for it in stupid situations because I'm frustrated about
30:21 it."
30:22 And he ended up going somewhere else and having tremendous success.
30:27 So you don't know.
30:29 And so we're going to ride this out.
30:31 I think, and I said this to you at the very, very beginning.
30:35 People said to me, "Oh, I think AP can have the job, but he's got to hire XYZ."
30:38 Okay.
30:39 If AP is your guy, then you trust him to be your guy.
30:46 Let AP buy his own groceries.
30:50 He's earned that right.
30:54 He's earned that right.
30:55 If you believe in AP, then your opinion on Getzy should be, "All right, maybe I would
31:00 have hired him.
31:01 Maybe I wouldn't have, but hey, I trust AP.
31:03 That's my guy.
31:04 It's who I wanted."
31:06 You don't want a head coach being dictated by the owner or the GM or whomever of what
31:13 he has to do.
31:14 That's not a fair opportunity.
31:15 AP's earned that.
31:19 You saw what he did with a staff he didn't pick.
31:21 Let's watch what he does with the staff he does.
31:23 I want to address a couple of things that I think are very important.
31:27 Tom Telesco and AP's relationship, I've hit this a couple of times.
31:33 I'm going to keep hitting it because I had another person say something to me about it
31:36 last night down in the media center at the Super Bowl.
31:41 People are raving about the way those two work together, that it really has been impressive.
31:53 I was told by someone last night the respect that Tom has for AP impressed them.
32:02 I told you guys all along, everybody I know who knows AP has said, excuse me, knows Tom
32:08 Telesco has been wowed by his character, who he is as a man.
32:17 That's something that I just wanted to tell you, I think.
32:20 People have been equally as impressed with AP.
32:27 I had someone tell me, this might have been Sunday morning, could have been Saturday night,
32:35 I don't remember, but said to me, they were impressed with how much AP listens to him.
32:44 It surprised them a little bit because this is AP's team.
32:48 They thought AP would just be, no, I'm the guy.
32:52 He is, he knows it, but I've shared this with you before.
32:55 AP is smart enough to listen to other people.
33:00 It's just been, I'm told, it's just been seamless.
33:04 It's been terrific.
33:05 In fact, the guy I talked to yesterday was like, this is what he did.
33:09 He goes, it's just been connected.
33:11 I think that's really good.
33:13 I could tell you that the Raiders have made absolutely no decision on who's number one
33:20 on their board, what direction they're going.
33:24 They've made no decisions whatsoever.
33:27 I was laughing.
33:28 When we thought it was going to be Cliff Kingsbury, people were like, well, that's it.
33:31 They're getting Caleb Williams.
33:32 I was literally laughing because I know what people were telling me.
33:38 We don't even have a clue.
33:41 >> No.
33:42 >> I am, matter of fact, when people, when it was still believed that Cliff was coming,
33:54 I had people around the league say to me, I'm really surprised he's going there
33:58 with Washington targeting Caleb.
34:01 So words are already coming around Washington that they're targeting Caleb.
34:06 But I just found that to be fascinating.
34:08 The Raiders are really, Telesco's learning what he has, his staff's out gathering
34:13 and continues to assimilate information.
34:16 Just tremendously done, tremendously good stuff here.
34:21 And I think that you're going to be very, very impressed
34:24 with what's going on with the Raiders.
34:26 So there you go.
34:27 That's our update for today from here at the Super Bowl.
34:29 A lot going on, Super Bowl media days today.
34:31 I'll be down there, of course, talking to a ton of people.
34:33 Going to talk to a lot of folks.
34:37 Have a great time down there.
34:38 See a lot of my friends in the national media, as well as a bunch of people
34:42 from around the NFL.
34:43 It's going to be a terrific day.
34:44 So from all of us here at Sports Illustrated, FAN Nation, Las Vegas Raiders Insider Podcast,
34:49 I hope that this helps you.
34:52 I hope it gave you some information.
34:53 Even if you don't want Luke, I hope it gave you at least information
34:58 into what the Raiders saw, what the Raiders are thinking.
35:01 I wish all of you the best.
35:02 Hope you have a wonderful day.
35:03 God bless you, everybody.
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