"Jo Usol Leadership Tay Kare Gi Muashra Wohi Jhalak Dikhaye Ga," Meher Bokhari comments
"Jo Usol Leadership Tay Kare Gi Muashra Wohi Jhalak Dikhaye Ga," Meher Bokhari comments
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01:09 I said, when Katrina came, people began to loot.
01:17 Over the years suffered several repetitious shootings and we will enable the people to
01:24 cross certain lines. I agree that this is a part of the system but you need to put some restrictions.
01:46 So you are in favour of JIT?
01:48 No, I am saying that it is not possible that politicians should remain open and they should be
01:55 suited politically and they should do it. You can do it politically in Jalsa but not here.
02:01 I think if you want to do it in every place, it is easy to do it by putting a tag of polarization
02:08 but how does polarization happen?
02:10 I am saying that if we are blamed for leadership, then it is fair enough.
02:20 We have judges who are very deviant and scary. You are writing letters to each other and
02:28 the media is also reading them. You are discussing your personal issues with fellow judges.
02:38 The media is reporting it. You are a watchdog.
02:43 I am a parliamentarian and a ruler. No one likes the courts. You give them space and
02:50 you are not ready to make a larger bench. You make a few judges and then you say that
02:56 I will not make a larger bench. I am a justice.
02:59 Supreme Court was in a bad shape during Umar Tauban Dayal's time.
03:03 When you stopped 20 MPs from voting in the Punjab Assembly, you wrote a new constitution.
03:10 You went to the Supreme Court and refused to vote for a party that was in the jurisdiction.
03:15 You have to make decisions that are in the law. You have to punish the 20 MPs.
03:19 It is being said that you have violated Article 17.
03:24 You have taken the basic right of a citizen to vote for a political party.
03:30 It is written in the constitution that if you vote for a wrong party, you may be disqualified.
03:35 Fair enough. You can vote for them. I agree with you.
03:40 I wrote that I will vote for them. You have stopped voting for them.
03:46 They made the government of Praveen Jalai Sahib because of those 20 votes.
03:50 I have a little disagreement with you on this. I will tell you my view and then take a break.
03:55 I believe that if you... You are so fast. You have the courage to handle Kashif.
04:00 I disagree with this decision. I disagree with the decision that Kaguya's vote count was...
04:06 It was a beneficial account. Why was that decision made?
04:09 Listen to me. There is a disagreement.
04:11 But if you take out the press conference at that time, the criticism was largely academic.
04:17 The judges should be careful.
04:19 I know that when you were going to the by-elections, people thought that it was a non-walkover.
04:25 It was a non-walkover. So, no one criticized at that time.
04:28 All this criticism started after the by-elections.
04:31 But that doesn't mean that the decision was right.
04:33 The decision was wrong. He opened a floodgate.
04:36 And because of opening the floodgate, all this happened.
04:39 You can definitely argue about the consequences.
04:43 My argument is that the politicians did not realize at that time that PDM will affect us so badly that Mr. Tarikand will win 15-16 seats.
04:52 I agree with what you said. I think that the JIT types should work very carefully.
04:57 That's why we are giving this example that the politicians should open this way.
05:02 You cannot do this to the politicians that it is allowed to criticize in the Jalsa and not on social media.
05:08 I am not justifying either. I am saying that everyone will have to take care of this.
05:13 But again, I have been saying this for a long time that institutions have to respect themselves.
05:18 It is not possible that you demand that you will respect us and we will do whatever we want.
05:23 Institutions have to respect themselves.
05:26 There is a special environment in Pakistan.
05:29 We see what is happening in the context of that environment.
05:32 Whether it is Mr. Bandyal, Mr. Iftikhar Chaudhary, or Mr. Saqib Nisar, or whatever decision is being made now.
05:38 So, because of that environment, because of those pressures, you decide that we think this is right or wrong.
05:47 But JITs should also work carefully.
05:50 You can't really say that you go out and hit people.
05:55 But if you want to do it, then you have to be careful across the board.
06:01 It is not possible that tomorrow, Mr. Mariam Nawaz stands in the Jalsa and says that the person who did this has left.
06:06 Whatever she said about judicially, that is fine.
06:09 Because she is talking about our opposing judges.
06:11 But not about any other judge.
06:13 We should also avoid the discussion about Tazhikam.
06:17 Don't demolish institutions.
06:20 Rest of the work will continue.
06:22 And we need to build institutions.
06:24 There are many problems, as you mentioned.
06:26 Our institutions will also have to think about how to build institutions.