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00:02 Coach of the year.
00:04 I actually think Joe, this is obviously MVP is still a two or three man race.
00:09 We both said yesterday, we think Lamar is gonna be involved there.
00:11 But coach of the year, Joe, I think there's still a lot of guys
00:16 who could win this award over the final four weeks.
00:18 Now Campbell's been the favorite basically all year long.
00:20 We know that plus 325.
00:22 Demico Rynes is now co-favorite with him.
00:25 Mike McDaniel actually today is also at plus 325.
00:29 Stikin, Sean Payton, Kyle Shanahan, Stefanski, John Harbaugh, Zach Taylor.
00:34 I think you make a case for a few of these guys, Joe.
00:38 In fact, if I go down the board, Zach Taylor,
00:41 you might have said this to me the other day or last week.
00:44 If he gets the Bengals in with Browning as the cornerback,
00:47 does he get some serious consideration for being coach of the year?
00:51 >> Absolutely, this is gonna be a very difficult award to win because of how
00:55 many teams.
00:56 If Demico Rynes gets in with CJ Stroud, his development and that defense.
01:01 I mean, think about it.
01:02 They had the second overall pick in the draft, second and third.
01:06 But to make the playoffs and to step up, that would be a huge accomplishment.
01:13 I would agree Stikin would be in there, but he's got a veteran quarterback.
01:16 So for me, I would give it to Demico Rynes.
01:19 It's tough, but we know Gardner Minshew's better,
01:23 at least on paper, than Jake Browning and all these other guys, right?
01:27 >> I get why Campbell's up there, Joe.
01:29 But honestly, the Lions were supposed to be good.
01:32 Everybody talked the Lions up the entire off season.
01:35 >> Well, he's not even on that list, Doug.
01:37 I mean, they were supposed to be good.
01:39 Why is he there?
01:41 >> Because the guy who's gonna have the best team, period,
01:44 is gonna be in the conversation.
01:46 And the way things are going, Joe, they're gonna end with the best team.
01:51 They're gonna have the best team in the league this year.
01:53 >> But why is Harbaugh so deep then?
01:56 Shouldn't Harbaugh be 12 to 1?
01:58 They're 9 and 3 overall.
02:00 I mean, nothing is comparable.
02:03 This is what I'm talking about.
02:04 Yes, Kyle Shanahan has the potential to be 14 and 3.
02:08 So does John Harbaugh.
02:10 So if Harbaugh and the Ravens are 14 and 3, shouldn't that gap between Harbaugh and
02:15 Shanahan be less than 12 bucks?
02:17 I mean, come on.
02:19 >> Perhaps, but we've had this conversation before in the past.
02:23 >> Well, where's McCarthy then?
02:25 What if McCarthy goes- >> McCarthy is 25 to 1.
02:30 25 to 1. >> Why is he so far down?
02:32 >> You can make a case, fine.
02:35 I don't think any of those guys should win anyway.
02:38 You know how I feel about this award.
02:39 It should be a team that nobody expected to do anything, making the playoffs.
02:43 That's who I generally like to give- >> Well, Doug, to me, I agree with you.
02:48 It's either, for me, it's either I would give it Ryans, Stikine, and
02:53 Zack Taylor, because I was willing to put O'Connell in there if they were still
02:58 on a heater with Josh Dobbs or Nick Mullens.
03:02 >> I know you don't like hearing this either, but
03:04 Sean Payton deserves some consideration as well, whether you like it or not.
03:09 Sean Payton's gonna deserve consideration, especially if he gets him in.
03:13 He's gonna deserve it too, Joe.
03:14 I know- >> He would, he would.
03:16 >> How about, let me ask you this, not to deflect, and
03:18 I've already given props to Denver, they don't need any more from me.
03:22 >> No more bouquets?
03:23 Not gonna throw him any more bouquets, Joe?
03:25 >> No more, that's it.
03:26 I'm entitled to keep it short with Denver.
03:30 What about, and I know they lost the other night, but Green Bay,
03:34 if they go 10 and 7, and they make the playoffs with Jordan Love.
03:38 No? Okay, all right.
03:40 I'm just saying, that's another team that they wrote off.
03:43 I mean, nobody thought they had a summer off.
03:46 >> They have LeFlore at 28 to 1 right now, Joe, 28 to 1 for LeFlore.
03:50 >> All right.
03:52 >> I'm not there.
03:53 I don't think that's as good as some of these AFC ones.
03:57 I don't think it's as good.
03:59 >> Okay, I think it's Ryan or Zach Taylor for me.
04:02 Right now, we're talking entering week 15.
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