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00:00 Welcome to The Source where we combine the headlines with in-depth conversations with
00:06 the newsmakers themselves. I'm Pinky Webb. Today on the program, the Health Department
00:11 assures the public there's nothing to worry about even as cases of respiratory illness
00:16 among children surge in northern China. Filipinos can expect a more accessible cancer care as
00:22 the Philippines opens its first specialty hospital to diagnose and treat cancer patients.
00:28 Health Under Secretary Eric Tayag joins us in the program. And beat the rush by jump-starting
00:35 your Christmas shopping at a four-day holiday fair opening today. Artofino co-founder Mel
00:41 Francisco and fashion designer Rosana Ocampo tells us more later in the show.
00:57 There is a growing global concern over the surge in the number of children with respiratory
01:02 illnesses including pneumonia in China. Here in the Philippines, the Health Department
01:07 says it is closely coordinating with the Chinese government and the World Health Organization.
01:12 It adds the department is ready if flu-like cases increase in the country. The department
01:18 also notes the WHO has not yet recommended stricter border controls despite the situation
01:24 in China. Let's go straight to the source of the story. We have Health Under Secretary
01:28 Eric Tayag. Eric Tayag, welcome to the source, sir. Thank you so much for your time.
01:31 Good morning, Pinky.
01:33 Good morning, sir. So first, I want to ask you why, number one, why are there so many
01:38 people getting sick nowadays?
01:40 Okay. The Department of Health has been monitoring influenza-like illness wherein a patient can
01:48 present with fever combined with sore throat, cough or colds. Since the start of the year,
01:57 the number of cases has increased. In fact, it's 50% higher than last year. Now in China...
02:05 Sorry, Yusek, did you say 50 or 15?
02:09 15. That's 50%, Pinky. We are close to 200,000 cases this year here in the Philippines. Now,
02:21 we try to confirm if we get samples from these patients, most of them will have influenza
02:29 A or B viruses. The others will be tested positive for COVID.
02:38 So it is...
02:39 In China...
02:40 Okay, go ahead.
02:44 They have relaxed their restrictions in December. And the way they're explaining this now, and
02:52 also can hold true for the Philippines, is that those who were under strict restriction
03:00 would have not developed enough immunity against other viruses or pathogens. That's why when
03:09 the restrictions were relaxed and children went back to school, then we see a number
03:16 of cases from other pathogens other than COVID.
03:23 Got it. But we have the seasonal flu shot, don't we? Does this... Will the seasonal flu
03:30 shot cover whether it be influenza A or influenza B virus?
03:37 It covers influenza A, influenza B, except Pinky that we used to give this only to senior
03:44 citizens. And like in other countries where in children are given influenza vaccines.
03:51 Okay. So when... Doesn't the WHO come up with the influenza shot yearly or is this twice
04:01 a year?
04:02 It's given every year. That's because they have to change the formulation because the
04:12 particular circulating strain is being monitored. In fact, we send samples to collaborating
04:18 centers of the World Health Organization as our contribution in the production of these
04:25 influenza vaccines every year.
04:27 Right. And basically what it is, Dr. Tayagis, that they determine which virus I guess would
04:32 be the prevalent one?
04:37 Except that in China, they have reported that there's another bacteria causing this respiratory
04:43 illness in children. It's mycoplasma pneumoniae. We have the capacity to confirm this if it's
04:53 really mycoplasma pneumoniae. But then again, we just got news that aside from China, Netherlands
05:02 has reported also similar cases in that country.
05:07 Hold on. Just to be clear about this, Dr. Tayag, this mycoplasma pneumoniae, that is
05:15 different from the usual influenza A and influenza B virus?
05:20 Yes. This is not a virus. This is a bacteria and antibiotics can work, except that in China,
05:29 there's a high drug resistance rate for mycoplasma.
05:35 Is that because of what you explained earlier?
05:37 Because of the nature of mycoplasma pneumoniae, it doesn't have a cell wall and most antibiotics
05:49 work against the bacteria because of the cell wall. And mycoplasma doesn't have this and
05:57 it easily incorporates to our cells. That's why even after treatment, they linger around
06:04 for weeks. Patients may have cough that persists for weeks. That's the mycoplasma pneumoniae.
06:15 It's also called the walking pneumonia because even if you have pneumonia on just a day,
06:21 you continue to feel well, not so bad, except that a few may be hospitalized with complications.
06:30 In fact, I'd like to share that I have had people quite close to me who've had this flu-like
06:37 system, not treated though, but it lasted for, it was a really bad cough and lasted
06:43 for even more than two weeks. Would these be the symptoms of this walking pneumonia
06:49 or this mycoplasma pneumoniae?
06:51 I think it's possible because in many surveys involved with this pathogen, 40% of those
07:02 who catch a community acquired pneumonia, I mean, would be secondary to mycoplasma pneumoniae.
07:11 All right, we lost Undersecretary Tayag there on the line. We're going to try to get him
07:18 back on air as we talk about why so many people right now are actually getting the flu. And
07:25 the problem is there's been a reinfection even among children. We're going to talk about
07:31 that after the break. This is The Source on CNN Philippines. Please stay tuned.
07:40 You're watching The Source on CNN Philippines. I'm Pinky Webb. Our source today, Health
07:43 Undersecretary Eric Tayag. So to summarize, what I want to find out is, is this mycoplasma
07:50 pneumoniae, is that already, has that been recorded here in the country?
07:54 That has been recorded in the country, except that today or even years in the past, this
08:03 is not a regular pathogen that physicians would actually request from their laboratory
08:13 or look for. If they suspect it, they already give the antibiotics suited for it.
08:20 How contagious is this?
08:23 So contagious that even before symptoms appear like cough, once it's infected, it can already
08:31 transmit it to another person via close contact.
08:35 From what I'm trying to recall now from the past, the virus is the more contagious one.
08:40 Is it because it's airborne and like a bacteria?
08:45 This is also a pathogen or a microbe that can be spread or transmitted through respiratory
08:55 means.
08:56 So can one actually find out that you're positive for this mycoplasma pneumoniae?
09:01 Yes, there's a test after a swab, just like for COVID-19, except that only a few laboratories
09:08 can actually do this.
09:10 And if you're positive, for example, are you supposed to isolate yourself?
09:15 Yes, that's a common sense protection for others who live in the same household. So
09:23 mycoplasma pneumoniae can be prevalent in closed settings like schools, prisons, home
09:31 households.
09:32 So it behaves like COVID?
09:37 It is, except that it has the label of walking pneumonia.
09:42 Walking pneumonia because you feel all right, except for COVID, it can easily progress to
09:51 something that's terrible.
09:52 Yeah, that's true.
09:53 Yousef, what about the possibility of reinfection?
09:57 I've seen some people who get sick.
09:59 I don't know which, if this is just a regular flu influenza or this mycoplasma, but there's
10:05 been a lot of people that's been reinfected after five or seven days.
10:11 Mycoplasma is notorious for reinfection. In fact, even after treatment, it can linger
10:17 for weeks. And that's when patients who are infected with this bacteria would complain
10:23 of a cough that has been with them for even four or more weeks.
10:30 So will antibiotics work?
10:35 Antibiotics work except for children that's in A. So it's a big concern if younger children
10:41 are affected. And we're now checking the resistance rate for this antibiotics against mycoplasma
10:51 because it can be a concern.
10:55 All right. Then just shifting topics, how is the COVID situation now in the country,
11:00 sir?
11:01 We are still reporting COVID cases. There has been no update for COVID cases in ICU.
11:10 That's a good sign. And we have people still going for testing if they suspect if they
11:19 have COVID. And that's a good sign, too.
11:21 All right. And I just want to bring this up, sir, because the president recently inaugurated
11:26 this, the country's first cancer hospital. Excuse me, last week, it's called the Healthway
11:33 Cancer Care Hospital. Again, it's located in Taguig City. I guess, tell us about how
11:39 this can help. Well, number one, accessibility in terms of accessibility and financial considerations
11:45 for those suffering or who are inflicted with cancer.
11:49 PQ number one, cancer is not the second leading cause of death. Number two, the Department
11:56 of Health spends billions so that we can provide necessary cancer treatment either through
12:07 field health or through our cancer treatment program. It will help so many, except that
12:15 now, what the Department of Health has planned is to have several cancer centers in many
12:23 of our third level hospitals so that we can meet the demand as fast as we can.
12:30 You know, the president, when he gave the speech, when this was inaugurated, I think
12:36 he said it was the third killer in the Philippines. And you're saying this is the second one?
12:44 Yes, it is. It's the second one following heart diseases.
12:50 Health Under Secretary Eric Tayag, sir, pleasure to have you. Thank you so much for your time.
12:55 Thank you.
12:57 And when we return, we're going to talk about over a hundred thoughtfully curated local
13:01 brands come together for Artofino's four-day fair ahead of the holiday season. We'll speak
13:06 to Artofino co-founder Mel Francisco and fashion designer Rosano Ocampo in just a bit. We'll
13:12 be right back.
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