Faisal Karim Kundi’s Reaction on Ali Durrani's Statement

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00:00 Mr. Durrani, I saw a statement of yours in a TV program

00:03 that a party is now roaming around as a ruler.

00:06 You spoke about the Muslim League.

00:08 All these people who are saying that a fair and free election has never happened in the past

00:13 and will never happen in the future, is this really true?

00:15 That a free and fair election will never happen?

00:17 In the coming elections?

00:19 In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

00:22 Look, sir, being fair and free in elections is really a question mark.

00:29 There were many questions in the past elections as well.

00:32 But this is also a fact that there is no other way than elections.

00:36 There is no other way.

00:38 What kind of elections are you talking about?

00:40 I think there is no other way than free and fair elections.

00:43 There is no other way than fair and free elections.

00:48 The first thing is that there is no other way than elections.

00:51 For this time, I will put another preface that there is no other way than fair and free elections.

00:57 And the preface that I have given for this is also a preface that is moving forward.

01:04 Which we have been going on for so many years.

01:07 If we do such an experiment this time,

01:10 in which we all together move national interests beyond our political and personal interests.

01:16 For which I have suggested that an elected national unity government should be formed.

01:22 Which has never been done in the past in Pakistan.

01:26 But it has been done in Britain, South Africa, Ireland.

01:31 Even now, all political parties have been elected.

01:34 Which means all parties have to govern.

01:36 No, not only government.

01:38 To govern, the PDM government was also formed.

01:42 But it could not give the results.

01:45 The government that I am talking about and the one that the democratic republics have made its way.

01:50 That government is that on a national agenda, all political parties decide before the election.

01:59 That after the election, we will all together form a government.

02:03 In which the biggest party will suggest its prime minister and he will elect him to parliament.

02:09 And along with that, 30% of the votes will be taken.

02:11 Sir, but the basis of this will be free and fair elections.

02:13 You will do a fair election.

02:15 And you will say that now you decide, in the election where no one can raise a finger,

02:21 everyone decides how to run.

02:24 So now a lot of voices have started coming.

02:27 Mr. Zardari has given this suggestion of the national government.

02:30 This is what other people are saying.

02:33 Why are they talking?

02:35 Oppositions are there.

02:36 Opposition is only there, Mr. Durrani, so that the government can keep track.

02:40 If everyone has to sit together in the government, then what is the need to have an election?

02:44 Then you make a government like this, like a KTK government, make a government like this.

02:48 Run that country like that.

02:50 Look, I will tell you a date from history for this.

02:56 When extraordinary circumstances happen, extraordinary actions have to be taken.

03:01 You will not be able to give anything to the public at this time,

03:05 in the midst of the opposition and the government's struggle.

03:09 At this time, if you succeed in making such a government,

03:14 whose agenda will be economy, whose agenda will be the political order of the future,

03:20 whose agenda will be the system of local self-government,

03:24 which we have implemented in the 76 years after the 18th amendment,

03:28 but you have not been able to implement it in the whole country yet.

03:31 Now your need is that you make a national constitution.

03:35 Sir, you are saying that the work that has never been done in the history of Pakistan,

03:39 now everyone should do it.

03:41 Sometimes it has to be done.

03:43 Look, you have done every work in history, because of which the public did not get anything.

03:47 Sir, you have not done it once, you have done it again.

03:49 You are going to do it again.

03:51 You are doing it again and again.

03:53 Now you do such a work once, because of which the priority,

03:57 the center point of which is the public,

04:00 and in this, the political parties, the establishment and the public,

04:06 together will guard this thing,

04:09 that a government of one to five years should come,

04:12 which is primarily on a national agenda,

04:15 which is mutually compatible.

04:17 And let me tell you that today a big leader has said this,

04:21 tomorrow all the big leaders will say the same thing,

04:24 because the pressure of the public and the pressure of the whole environment

04:27 and the pressure of the country's situation will increase so much,

04:30 that the pressure will not increase,

04:32 the government, of course, you also know that governments are formed,

04:35 you are saying national unity, you have gone to the next step,

04:38 make a government of national unity.

04:40 The first step should be free and fair elections,

04:43 no one has any pressure on that.

04:45 Look, if you are not putting pressure, then neither.

04:47 The pressure of the public is that you give us our right.

04:50 First, can I ask a question?

04:51 The elections are being held on time, because I have asked this question before you came.

04:54 There has been a debate that the elections will not be held on time,

04:57 I asked how long can we hold elections on time?

04:59 Is this a request program or something?

05:01 No, no, I said how long can we hold elections on time?

05:03 No, no, I don't understand.

05:04 There is a law, there is a law in this country,

05:06 I am telling you that I don't get such requests.

05:08 I am saying that how long will they keep violating the law?

05:10 I am just saying that, look, I have not met Mr. Fahed Yusuf,

05:13 but once I met him, I did not meet him,

05:15 but I saw when the golden jubilee of the elections was being celebrated,

05:19 I heard his speech in which he held a book of laws and said that

05:22 if this country continues on this, then everything will be fine.

05:25 So, I think that being Fahed Yusuf, I don't think so that anyone can play with the elections.

05:31 The second thing is that, look, Mr. Durrani said very good things,

05:34 either this is his own wish or a request program.

05:38 He doesn't take you seriously.

05:40 Okay. So, I mean, these things, I don't know that Mr. Durrani…

05:45 I don't know either, I don't know why we want to do something like this.

05:48 The second thing is that the people first of all say that you should do time parishioning

05:52 and give us the right to vote for whichever party we vote for.

05:56 They will give their policies as per the constitution,

05:58 so they can implement their policies.

06:00 This is how democracies work.

06:02 The problem is that you give them…

06:04 And how democracies don't work, you look at our system.

06:06 If they vote for the PPP or not, or PTI or PMLN or anybody,

06:10 they don't give it, you give it to the people.

06:12 The second thing is that the consensus government,

06:14 when we are in the field, we can see that no political party,

06:18 I don't think, can take a majority.

06:20 That is why they say that the consensus government can be formed in the future.

06:26 The 125 seats that the Punjabis are giving statements, that is…

06:30 If the Punjabis take them out first, then we will know.

06:33 You are saying that if they run alone, they will come second.

06:36 If they run alone, then maybe they will come second, maybe they will come third.

06:40 No, I… Look, the problem is that if they are doing two-way politics or whatever,

06:45 then the problem is that they are coming out in the public.

06:47 They are waiting for the schedule.

06:49 And if they believe that we are winning the elections,

06:52 then why don't they demand for the elections?

06:54 What is this national unity government?

06:56 National unity government, look, we made a government in 2008.

06:59 Look, you cannot say that there will be no opposition.

07:02 Yes, that opposition will support you when all the parties believe that there will be free and fair elections.

07:07 The public has not voted for us, we are sitting in the opposition.

07:09 Yes, but won't this position change after the elections?

07:11 What?

07:12 You were demanding for PDM, you said that yes, it's fine, the elections are fair, it's not okay.

07:17 Look, the PTI government has passed, and we had some 16 months,

07:21 and they took a 10-year agenda that nothing will be said for 10 years.

07:24 And they are being called support.

07:25 They were watching TV, they were told to wait for 6-9 months,

07:28 they were told not to bash on TV, let them run.

07:32 You kept running, running, running, but when you couldn't run, how were you doing it?

07:36 Look, if you do this, people are watching, you don't know how long 5 years pass.

07:41 Look, now this country cannot tolerate this, that you always do re-election,

07:46 and select, and bring supporters, sometimes have mercy on this country and have free and fair elections.

07:51 Who are these supporters, you yourself are saying that no one will win, if they don't win, then who are these supporters?

07:55 Look, there has always been this statement of PMLN that they have dragged the institutions into politics.

07:59 And they want to drag it again.

08:01 And they say that we have dragged it so that on one side we are, and on the other side the parties start speaking against the institutions.

08:07 So this is their agenda, or a plan to do this.

08:11 So you see what is happening with PMLN, they always drag the institutions.

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