Senators on Wednesday morning were breathing fire as they called for the impeachment of Public Service CS Moses Kuria. This was after the CS made remarks against the Senators over the ongoing Impeachment of Embattled Meru Governor Kawira Mwangaza. https://bit.ly/3QOFao1
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00:00 Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Senate, I want to register my disappointment in the increasingly
00:07 unbecoming conduct of Cabinet Secretary Moses Kuria, a man who is continually embarrassing
00:14 the appointing authority and casting serious doubts on the choice ability of none other
00:20 than His Excellency the President.
00:23 Mr. Speaker, sir, that tweet was in bad taste. It paints Senators as cheap people who have
00:30 no cognitive abilities to make interpretation of the matters that are before us and make
00:36 a sober decision that is in the interest of the Constitution and the people of Kenya.
00:42 Mr. Speaker, this is the 14th impeachment hearing that the Senate is hearing, and I've
00:47 had opportunity to vote in almost all of them. I take great exception in the conduct of Moses
00:53 Kuria in the tweet that he sent out and the things that he said about this House and the
00:59 colleagues that he's listed.
01:01 In fact, Mr. Speaker, I now agree with members of this House who have brought sincere motion
01:07 before to discuss the conduct of this particular minister, because at every given opportunity,
01:14 he has done nothing other than embarrass the appointing authority. In fact, it is my submission,
01:20 Mr. Speaker, that the earlier CS Moses Kuria is let off his duty, the better for this administration,
01:27 Mr. Speaker, because every single day in every action that he undertakes, he continues to
01:34 embarrass the President and the people.
01:37 No wonder the people of Kiambu resoundingly rejected his bid to be their governor, Mr.
01:42 Speaker. It's because of this kind of habit, the kind of things that he says, how he goes
01:47 about his duties, Mr. Speaker, and overall his conduct as a human being. Therefore, Mr.
01:53 Speaker, let Mr. Kuria know, wherever he is, that senators cannot be intimidated, that
02:00 the kind of monkey business he's trying to introduce cannot be allowed to stand, Mr.
02:04 Speaker, because this is a distraction.
02:06 >>Senator Kojong.
02:07 >>Mr. Speaker, first, allow me to congratulate you for your resilience. The communication
02:16 being referred to was made at exactly midnight, and that is a sign of the commitment of this
02:22 House. Mr. Speaker, you are a bit lenient in your communication. I don't think that
02:30 such conduct should just be reprimanded and left at that. Mr. Speaker, I want to urge
02:34 you that this particular Cabinet Secretary, who uses social media to disparage the House,
02:40 to refer to matters before the House, to speak of the House in a manner that is extremely
02:45 demeaning, that this particular person be summoned to appear before the House and to
02:51 be summoned to substantiate those claims that he has made, because, Mr. Speaker, those kind
02:55 of utterances have got the effect of belittling this House and taking away any credibility
03:01 this House would have in future impeachment.
03:03 Mr. Speaker, the many impeachments that we have processed in this House, if the conduct
03:10 of C.S. Moses-Kuria was to be considered, his conduct falls within the threshold of
03:16 impeachment. If he was a governor and if he was brought to this House, he would definitely
03:21 be impeached. Mr. Speaker, I want to urge the members of the other House, because they
03:25 are the ones who have the responsibility of censuring and sending home Cabinet Secretaries,
03:29 to take serious judicial notice of the conduct of this particular Cabinet Secretary, and
03:34 this House, through the relevant committee, can come up with resolutions that can then
03:38 be used to move the other House to discuss his conduct and to have him censured.
03:42 And I hope that Senator Chariot, because you've got the ear of the President, who's the appointing
03:46 authority, let us not just complain in this House. Go and tell the boss that this guy
03:51 is an embarrassment, not just to the government, but to the Republic of Kenya. He's an embarrassment
03:57 to the entire East Africa. The deals he has done has made Kenya look like a pariah when
04:03 it comes to issues of supply chain of oil and edible oil. Mr. Speaker, this man must
04:09 go. We must pronounce ourselves.
04:11 Thank you, Honorable Speaker, for this opportunity also to give my comment on this irrisating
04:21 behavior of the CAs for public service. Honorable Speaker, the process going on in this House
04:27 is very, very important for the people of Meru, who are representing this House, Mr.
04:31 Speaker. And when a CA, just a log CA, gets out there to make some very funny comments
04:39 on social media, it is very embarrassing and he is not serving, or whatever he is doing
04:45 is not for the best interests of the Meru people. And I want to warn him that he should
04:50 keep off Meru affairs, let him concentrate with the work that has been given by the President.
04:55 Otherwise, Mr. Speaker, I will request actually on this matter, the other majority leader
05:03 on the other House, to actually start processing an impeachment motion to these CAs. And Honorable
05:12 Speaker, on this matter, as Honorable Kajanga has put it, after this process is done, I
05:18 would request that Mr. Skuria is going back to this House, is brought before us so that
05:24 we can discipline him. Otherwise, he is an embarrassment to the people who voted for
05:29 the Kenya-Kwanzaa government. And he should be relieved of his duties immediately. So
05:34 the President should take notice of the comments you are giving us this House, Mr. Speaker.
05:41 And I want from now on, let Mr. Skuria give us peace as Meru community. We don't want
05:47 his support. We know what we want and we know what best we can do, Mr. Speaker.
05:53 Mr. Speaker, I am happy that we have come full circle, because this is something that
05:57 I have said on many stages, that in fact, Moses Skuria is an incorrigible national shame.
06:04 Mr. Speaker, one of the things that I ask myself is just how much embarrassment does
06:11 the President have capacity to endure? And I can assure you that if nothing is done about
06:17 Moses Skuria, there is more embarrassment coming. That one I can guarantee.
06:21 Mr. Speaker, what is most hurtful is that even after your communication, the CSU, who
06:26 ordinarily should be asleep thinking about how he is going to make the lives of Kenyans
06:29 better, had the audacity to fire off another tweet on material that was presented before
06:34 this House. Mr. Speaker, what I want us to do, honestly speaking, action must be taken.
06:40 I am actually made aware by the members of this House who represent us in the PAC that
06:46 Moses Skuria ran away with money belonging to Parliament. He should actually be brought
06:50 to answer questions about those things and removed from his position, because for me
06:54 really, there is nothing that brings me greater joy than being proven right about the things
06:59 that I have said about this administration. And I just want the majority leader, please,
07:04 about this administration, because as you have said yourself, it casts very serious
07:08 doubt on the capacity of the appointing authority. How much embarrassment can the President take?
07:13 It is just one man, Mr. Speaker. So what we want to do, as they say, there is a famous
07:19 poem by Martin Nimola. First he came for the media, and when I brought a motion of censure
07:25 for the media, some of you were saying, "Oh, Sifuna is in the habit of attacking this government."
07:29 Now he has come for the Senate. Do something. Do something about this national shame, because
07:34 it will continue unabated. That is who Moses Skuria is. I thank you, Mr. Speaker.
07:41 Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, sir. I also rise to weigh on this important matter. Mr.
07:46 Speaker, sir, it is time that we as a country would stand up and be counted with one voice
07:52 and tell the President that he should not be held hostage by some of these log ministers
07:56 he has appointed to the government. Mr. Speaker, sir, at this time when Kenyans are suffering
08:01 from high cost of living, the least that we need are these ministers who cannot even pronounce
08:06 them to the policy direction, but instead they take it to the media to actually de-abuse
08:14 and debilitate this House. Mr. Speaker, sir, I do join lance with my colleagues. It is
08:19 the high time we tell the President he must put the House in order. Some of these Cabinet
08:24 Secretaries, Mr. Speaker, they are a big shame to the nation. The only thing that they can
08:28 do, Mr. Speaker, when we complain of high cost of living, they tell us to go and dig
08:33 our wells to produce our oil. Mr. Speaker, sir, it is unacceptable, and I would want
08:38 to put it in no and unmistakable terms, central region is no shortage of intelligent people
08:44 who are capable of running the docket that Korea is running, and he should be shown the
08:49 door as early as today, Mr. Speaker. We have the power, Mr. Speaker, to tell the President
08:54 that indeed such a serious like Moses Korea should be fired if not yesterday, today in
09:00 the morning, Mr. Speaker. It is a great shame to this House and to the nation indeed that
09:05 someone at the middle of the night, instead of addressing the pertinent issues that are
09:09 confronting Kenyans, he would take with a cup of -- Mr. Speaker, sir, he should be fired.
09:19 Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute on this important
09:25 matter. Mr. Speaker, I just want to generalize my comments because there is an observation
09:34 I have made. Many of our leaders want to destroy institutions who have responsibility of making
09:43 sure that our country runs properly. Mr. Speaker, Honorable Moses Korea is somebody I have been
09:50 in Parliament with for many years, including yourself. To a large extent, we have found
09:56 him extremely intelligent and somebody who made sense. To some extent, he makes himself
10:02 look such a foolish man, you wonder whether he even ever stepped into a parliamentary
10:06 House. And yet, sometimes Moses doesn't understand that what he says means a lot to Kenyans.
10:18 And indeed, our words have consequences. I would really want to plead with him and many
10:25 other leaders to realize that these Houses, the National Assembly and the Senate, are
10:30 not just talking shops. This is a place where we discuss national policy. This is a place
10:36 where we influence public opinion. And this is a place where it is assumed that we'll
10:41 be providing direction on where our country is going. I really would like, Mr. Speaker,
10:47 to plead with anybody who knows Moses like I do and many others. We talk to him and tell
10:54 him that he has to up his game. At this rate, all of us are going to become his enemy. Thank
11:01 you, Mr. Speaker.
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