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00:00 Hello, Assalam-o-Alaikum, good morning and welcome to a very unfamiliar edition of The
00:08 Pavilion on A-Sports, 10 Sports and the AR by Zapp app. Unfamiliar because the life of
00:14 this show, Fakhr-e-Alam, won't be with us for two days and until then I will be filling
00:20 in as your host but don't worry, Fakhr will come back to his rightful place here at The
00:26 Pavilion. Joining me are four former legends of Pakistan cricket because the show must
00:32 never stop and the party must go on. These four legends bring you analysis that you will
00:38 not get on any other platform. Joining me this afternoon, Pakistan's former captain,
00:44 Shoaib Malik. Good afternoon, Shoaib. Good afternoon, Assalam-o-Alaikum everyone. Best
00:48 of luck. Thank you, sir. Thank you. You're looking very confident. Thank you, pleasure
00:52 having you. You're looking smart also. Thank you, sir. I'm trying. On the other side, we
00:57 have with us Miss Paulak. Miss Paulak, good afternoon. How are you? Good afternoon. Assalam-o-Alaikum.
01:02 Thank you very much. Good luck. Best wishes. Thank you. Thank you. Motoring across to the
01:07 other side, we have another former captain of Pakistan. Behind the wicket, we have his
01:12 Shaba Sakhi. We all remember her. Mohin Khan. Mohin Bhai, Assalam-o-Alaikum. Walaikum-Salam,
01:16 Imran. How are you? I'm absolutely fine. You tell me. Is there any pressure? No pressure.
01:21 Between you four legends, I don't have any pressure. Good luck. No, no, no. Good luck.
01:24 And to my right is someone who captivated audiences like no one else could. With the
01:30 cricket ball, he did magic that no one else could. The one and only, the legend, Waseem
01:36 Akram. Waseem Bhai, good afternoon. Good afternoon, Imran. Assalam-o-Alaikum everyone. How are
01:40 you all? And have fun, buddy. Thank you. Right then, ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023 is
01:47 going on in India. 14 matches have been played and you are watching the live coverage on
01:52 A Sports, 10 Sports and ARY Zap app. Yesterday, finally opening up their account at the World
02:00 Cup, Australia defeated Sri Lanka by 5 wickets. We will now look at the match summary.
02:06 Sri Lanka all out after getting off to a flying start on 209 runs, Waseem Bhai. Yes, like
02:15 I said last night, if you complain about anyone, you will have to do a middle order for Sri
02:23 Lanka. It has happened a lot on the inexperienced side. When you are 125 for none, 0-1 and then
02:30 154 for one, there are no excuses for their team. But Australia came out all guns blazing.
02:37 Earlier, Mitch Marsh scored 15 more. He's got 52. English got 58. He looked good. Very
02:44 busy kind of play. La Bichenne got some runs and Maxwell too. And Stone is 20 as well.
02:49 So that means, their middle order has got batting and some practice as well. And I think
02:55 Madhushanka was the pick of the bowlers for Sri Lanka. He's got 3 wickets early on with
02:59 the new ball. A very talented young individual. But all the blame to Sri Lankan batting in
03:06 the middle order. Whatever you call it, like I said, call it inexperience. Call it something.
03:12 He was a good deck to bat on. He just had to bat. He had to bat for 40 overs. Even if
03:16 it was 3 and over, 4 and over, he played some silly shots. I'm all for Mandus in good
03:22 nick. Am I right? Kushal Mandus. Kushal Mandus is in good nick. But sometimes, you have to
03:27 read the situation. You don't have to play blind. That shot was to hit Zampa. You needed
03:32 partnership at that time. After 40-50 runs, your score was 260-270. He was 3 out at 40-50.
03:39 He was under pressure. If we look at Australia, Adam Zampa came back into form. He took 4
03:47 wickets at a very crucial stage. Pakistan must be a little worried about Australia playing
03:52 in this form in their next match. When teams win, there's a natural build up of confidence.
03:58 Australia had lost 2 matches. It was a must-win situation for them against this opposition.
04:06 They proved they're better side. I talked about it yesterday. They built up pressure.
04:13 Although it was a very good start for Sri Lanka. They had a partnership of 125 runs.
04:19 Even the second wicket was at 155. In 84 runs, the team was 8 out. The consistency of putting
04:28 pressure on Sri Lanka. The way Cummins bowled in the middle. He hit a great tappu.
04:36 We saw a ball on Kushal Parrara's helmet. The players in the dressing room get a big
04:42 impact. They're in full attacking mode. What can we do? Sometimes, when pressure
04:48 comes, you forget what to do. The simple philosophy is that you have to counter-attack.
04:54 Counter-attack doesn't mean you have to go and shoot a shot without any hesitation.
05:01 You have to find gaps. You should know if short pitches are being bowled, square leg
05:07 or wide mid-wicket, you have to play in the gaps that Sri Lanka hasn't done.
05:14 Adam Zampa was out of form. The way he bowled. Shoaib said yesterday that his leg spin
05:23 was still off-stump. But the way he finished his googly and flipper, he did it within
05:30 the stumps. So, Sri Lankan batsmen didn't get judged. Wasim bhai did a great sum-up.
05:36 The middle order of Sri Lanka was shattered. It was under pressure.
05:42 In our time, you were in the middle order. I was. There were other big players.
05:47 When the monkeys were bouncing, they would say, "Bhai, let me go. Let me go."
05:53 They had to be with Ram. We'll talk more about that. We'll just take a very quick look
05:58 at what the points table is now saying. Australia has registered their first win.
06:03 If we look at the points table, India is number one with six points. New Zealand is number
06:09 two with six points. South Africa, who will play the match after a while. Two wins in
06:14 two games. With four points, they are third. And Pakistan is fourth with four points again.
06:20 But, Misbah, I want to come to you. Net run rate, if you look at India, New Zealand,
06:25 South Africa, all three sitting very pretty at the top with their positive net run rates.
06:31 How important can this be at the back end of the tournament?
06:34 Very important. When you're playing matches like this, single league, all teams
06:39 are playing against each other. Four teams have to qualify. So, not just that, which
06:44 four teams qualify, but the fifth and sixth teams can have similar points. And then,
06:50 who will play in the future? Where do you finish? Number one, two, three, four.
06:56 It's very important for that. And the most important thing is that the net run rate
07:02 also shows that you are convincingly winning and putting pressure on other teams.
07:07 The way South Africa is playing, India is playing at this time, and New Zealand,
07:12 those three teams are looking completely different from the other teams. They are way
07:16 ahead in their approach at the moment. The rest are playing in small teams. England
07:22 is struggling. Australia, they felt a little bit in the last match that they have come
07:27 back a little bit. Pakistan still have a very good chance. You have won two matches.
07:33 This is a plus. You have won all those matches. One match was bad, but still, if you win
07:40 the next match, as a Pakistani, we had a very good chance. How do we go ahead?
07:46 Start is very important for any team. You saw the example of Australia or England,
07:53 that when you get stuck in the beginning, your confidence as a team goes down.
07:59 And then bringing that momentum back, it takes double your energy.
08:05 So let's see how it goes. It is going to be very, very interesting.
08:09 There are still many matches left. There are many World Cups left.
08:12 So, it's a sure thing, guys. Teams have to concentrate from now on.
08:19 If they are chasing, if they can finish the match quickly, without taking a risk,
08:24 they should. They should. And don't linger in the match.
08:29 Absolutely. Wherever you get a chance. And this is a very interesting situation.
08:32 You saw that the matches are not closing in this World Cup.
08:37 It's a one-way affair. Whichever team is dominating in a match,
08:41 they are convincingly winning. I think that this is reducing the charm.
08:46 Until the close games are over, one team is very good and the second is below average or poor.
08:53 In a game. So let's see how this World Cup goes.
08:57 Until there are no such matches, it won't be fun.
09:03 These are just over-the-top. If it was T20s, then we would have seen close matches.
09:07 Because in daylight, the pitch plays differently. Under lights are playing differently.
09:13 We saw this mostly in venues. There is a due factor when you bat under lights.
09:19 Hyderabad had a venue where under lights were playing better.
09:24 So this is the reason why we are not seeing those close matches.
09:28 But as the two big teams play, we will see those close games.
09:33 Waseem Bhai said a very good thing.
09:36 As soon as the match closes in Australia, we should try to finish it quickly.
09:43 This should be discussed in the team meetings.
09:45 But tomorrow, if there was any other team in Australia, and they would have a target,
09:52 they would have chased it carefully. But they didn't.
09:57 Mitch Marsh played his game, even though they kept losing wickets from the other end.
10:02 But he kept playing his game.
10:05 So we will have to see the other teams too.
10:08 And the net run rate, I said on the first day, will be a problem in the end.
10:14 Let's see how the net run rate balance is rejigged in today's match.
10:19 We've got Netherlands taking on South Africa, coming live from Reni Dharamshala at 1.30pm today.
10:27 Timber Bavuma led South Africa, taking on the Netherlands led by Scott Edwards.
10:32 You can catch all the action live on A-Sports, 10 Sports and the ARY Zap app.
10:38 Our discussion on Pavilion will continue with these four legends of Pakistan cricket.
10:43 We'll catch you all right after the break.
10:46 Welcome back to A-Sports, 10 Sports and the ARY Zap app.
10:50 ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023.
10:53 Exclusive coverage on A-Sports, 10 Sports and the ARY Zap app with these four legends of Pakistan cricket.
11:01 It's the Netherlands taking on South Africa today.
11:04 Match number 15 of the World Cup.
11:07 But it is happening in a rather rainy Dharamshala.
11:11 We'll show you the ground visuals.
11:13 I want to bring this to Waseem bhai.
11:16 Waseem bhai, when the team comes on the ground like this, with covers and rain on and off,
11:21 how much of an impact does the preparation have?
11:24 It's great fun. Bring tea and samosas and cards.
11:28 And in a weather like Dharamshala, samosas and chaat are a must.
11:34 Not cards, cards.
11:36 Playing cards.
11:38 I don't think Waseem bhai is enjoying this with South Africans.
11:43 Because obviously it's a big game for them.
11:46 In a sense, they must be fencing for their chances to win the match.
11:52 They are the favourites.
11:54 And if this match doesn't happen, then it's a loss somewhere.
11:58 I suppose when you go and you get a bit frustrated,
12:02 but again then you realise it's not in your control.
12:04 You just have to wait and see.
12:06 I think the batters in the World Cup are in their own form.
12:11 The South African team is not of any team.
12:14 They must be feeling a bit dizzy.
12:18 They must be feeling a bit dizzy.
12:20 I would like to ask you,
12:22 there have been a lot of complaints about the Dharamshala outfield.
12:26 The England team complained, the Bangladesh team complained.
12:29 Is this also bothering South Africa?
12:32 I don't think so. Because the team is in outstanding form.
12:36 The batting is in their own form.
12:38 The bowling is also very good.
12:40 But naturally, I am just thinking about a match.
12:44 It's very important.
12:46 You don't get much opposition like this.
12:48 In the longer version, 50-over, in T20, although they have beaten South Africa.
12:53 Because of which we qualified for the World Cup.
12:56 There must be a bit of anger in that match.
12:58 There must be anger in that match.
13:00 But if this match is of short overs,
13:04 then it will be difficult for South Africa.
13:08 No doubt they are in form, but previously they have won over other countries.
13:13 Because they must be feeling confident.
13:16 They must be thinking that the match will be short.
13:19 So we can win.
13:21 So, it's not that the match won't happen, but it will happen.
13:25 And if there are gaps in between, it will be very difficult for the teams.
13:28 You have to regain that rhythm, the momentum that you have.
13:32 We have seen in many matches,
13:34 that when it rains and you come back,
13:36 then either the batsmen start getting out.
13:41 The rhythm of batting comes with a lot of difficulty.
13:43 Comparatively, if you look at bowling,
13:45 bowling is easy in this season.
13:48 Batting, playing the match,
13:50 you have a little momentum, you started playing well,
13:53 and there is a gap, then it is difficult for the batsmen.
13:56 Mohit Bhai mentioned the Adelaide Oval match of the 2022 T20 World Cup,
14:00 in which the Netherlands defeated South Africa,
14:03 and then South Africa crashed out of the tournament.
14:05 While it is something that will be in South Africa's minds,
14:09 how much confidence will the Netherlands get from this,
14:12 that they have already defeated South Africa on a global stage?
14:16 Look, the players of the Netherlands will definitely be confident,
14:21 but it's a different format.
14:23 And in this, you have to play well constantly to beat any big team.
14:28 I don't think South Africans are thinking of anything like this,
14:32 because the last matches they played were very good.
14:35 They win convincingly, all their batters are in form,
14:39 bowlers are in form, as Mohit Bhai said.
14:42 So, in this World Cup,
14:44 the balanced side of South Africa is not seen yet.
14:49 And this is the reason why their batters and bowlers are both in uniform.
14:55 So, that's why they are dominating against big teams also.
14:59 So, I don't think it's like that in T20.
15:01 Because T20 is such a format that you can see a small team defeating a big team.
15:09 Because if you get even one chance in T20, then you avail it.
15:13 But one-day cricket, 50 overs cricket,
15:16 in which you have to avail 3-4 opportunities,
15:20 either small team to win against a big team.
15:23 So, I don't think anything like this will happen here.
15:25 Yes, they will definitely be confident.
15:27 The Netherlands' captain, Scott Edwards, or Colin Eckermann, Bas Delayde,
15:33 they are in good form.
15:35 Vikram Jeet is also in good form.
15:37 But the thing is that those runs are not coming in such a way
15:40 that you put such a target in 50 overs that your bowlers can defend.
15:44 One thing you will definitely see is that South Africa has batted first.
15:49 Now, these conditions are such that you will want to bowl first.
15:53 But somewhere in this tournament,
15:56 when the runs are on the board against South Africa,
16:01 and then they have to chase,
16:03 the most important thing is how South Africa's batsmen respond.
16:09 They have lost in the last game in T20,
16:12 or in the last World Cup,
16:14 South Africa has often choked in the chase.
16:18 So, let's see.
16:19 So far, there is no confusion in their batting.
16:25 The roles are very clear.
16:27 Everyone knows what to do and is informed.
16:31 No chinks in the South African batting, Amar Shoaib.
16:34 We will take a break now.
16:35 But on the other side of the break, we will talk about the South African batting lineup.
16:39 They are in red-hot form, led by Temba Bavuma.
16:43 But more on that after this very short break.
16:46 Welcome back.
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16:56 Before the break, we were talking about South Africa's batting.
17:00 They are in red-hot form right now.
17:03 And if we look at the teams that have scored the highest run rates in this World Cup,
17:08 South Africa is right there at the top with a batting run rate of 7.39.
17:15 Shoaib, I want to bring this to you.
17:17 South Africa's batting firepower is not lacking in any area from 1 to 6.
17:23 Not at all.
17:24 I would say that even the batters who come in at 7th number,
17:29 if they get a good platform,
17:33 which is provided by the top players,
17:36 like Quinton Decock who has scored hundreds back-to-back,
17:39 then their wenders, Adrian Markram, David Miller,
17:44 all of them are in good form except their captain.
17:47 If runs start coming from there,
17:50 then I think it's going to be very difficult to stop this kind of batting order.
17:55 All of their batters are in form.
17:59 But as Misbah Bhai said,
18:01 if they get a good total and they go to chase,
18:05 then we will have to see if they will respond in the same way as they were doing in batting.
18:12 But overall, they are all in good form.
18:15 Klaasen hasn't been named yet.
18:18 But one thing is for sure,
18:20 he has a word with them, a joke.
18:25 I don't think he is associated with this batting order.
18:29 And he is confident.
18:32 And I feel that the way he has played against Australia,
18:36 so this time he has made a plan.
18:38 One more thing, I have never seen Quinton Decock being so hyper.
18:43 But I have seen that this time, usually he doesn't talk much.
18:47 In this World Cup, he passed a catch after Shamsi.
18:51 So the try could have been made and he could have put more effort in that catch.
18:56 But he shouted at him.
18:58 Normally he doesn't do that, Quinton Decock.
19:01 So it means that they are in business.
19:03 He is a man on a mission.
19:04 And he really wants to win the World Cup.
19:06 Mohit bhai, Quinton Decock has played 17 World Cup games before this.
19:10 Not a single century.
19:11 And in this World Cup, we will go back to back 2 centuries.
19:14 We will also play some visuals.
19:15 Quinton Decock didn't leave spin and fast bowling.
19:19 Can you tell us about his batting?
19:21 Absolutely.
19:22 I think the best thing about him is that he plays shots all around.
19:27 Reverse whip, extra cover, straight drives, pull, hook.
19:34 No bowler can stop him.
19:37 He plays shots in all three dimensions.
19:39 This is the quality.
19:41 A batsman like him, who has a form, finds it very difficult to gain a bowler.
19:47 And I think bowlers should try to gain within the stumps.
19:53 Whatever miss they make, they will get a chance to get out.
19:55 Otherwise, the way he is carrying the form, it is very difficult for a bowler to get him out.
20:02 Because he can easily manage his runs.
20:05 And he is not letting any pressure on his non-strikers.
20:11 That's why his batting lineup is very strong.
20:15 They are responding to each other.
20:18 Although, he doesn't have a form, we saw in the last match, he scored a little.
20:22 He missed three catches in that too.
20:24 So, it would be good if he gets into the form of South Africa.
20:28 But Quinton Decock, who we talked about, I think he is such a player.
20:33 Like you said, I heard he played his last World Cup.
20:38 So, naturally, he wants to leave behind such standards.
20:42 Which will be remembered throughout South Africa, at least in the history of cricket.
20:47 If we talk about Quinton, then all the cricketers who have played in the past, even in Test cricket,
20:52 Early on, on the off-spinner, we used to try Hafeez.
20:56 So, mostly, we used to get out on him.
20:59 And then, if he gets out of the driving length in Test matches,
21:03 He has been very successful against Abbas, even in white ball cricket.
21:09 But the way he plays in this World Cup, he has not left off-spinner,
21:14 Nor has he left off-driving length.
21:17 You saw the fours, extra cover, cover drives, all the hits he has made.
21:21 Pull and leg are already strong.
21:23 There, he doesn't hit half a shot.
21:26 If he gets the ball, he hits the flick for a six.
21:29 And he hits the pull shot, like he hit a six on 94.
21:33 So, he is clear.
21:35 And the small chances that the opposition had to out him,
21:41 I think, at this time, no team is giving him a chance.
21:46 One thing that should be related here,
21:49 Right now, we are talking about Quinton and D'Cock.
21:52 But, if we look at the overall batters from all over the world,
21:56 Whoever is participating in the IPL,
21:59 They have started playing spin well.
22:02 The middle order batters have become very good finishers.
22:05 So, there is an advantage from that.
22:07 But, behind that, there is one thing that is necessary.
22:10 There are 16 matches, but they are on different venues.
22:13 They are on different kind of pitches.
22:15 Where you get a spin,
22:17 Where you get a lateral movement pitch as a bowler.
22:22 I think, in our PSL, it should be like this.
22:25 You shouldn't have one type of pitches.
22:27 200, 200, 240, 250, these runs are being made.
22:31 No. If you want batters, finishers,
22:34 Those who can bat in the middle order,
22:36 Then they should give all types of conditions.
22:39 In our league too.
22:40 Because, it is a league from where your youngster,
22:43 Even your player, gets exposure.
22:46 I have been shouting for the past 2 years,
22:49 During PSL,
22:51 Who decides how much boundary is needed.
22:53 Simple thing, I am all for people,
22:56 They enjoy 6s and 4s.
22:59 But, there should be a reasonable battle between bat and a ball.
23:05 Now, 60m, 65m, do simple math.
23:09 Whoever comes, Nayak, Commissioner, PSL,
23:13 Whoever that director, whoever it is,
23:16 70m, the matter will be over. Period.
23:18 It's not a rocket science.
23:20 When you were in PCB, you were shouting,
23:22 Who decides the boundary?
23:24 But, you are talking about pitches,
23:27 Who will think so much?
23:29 Just make a flat wicket,
23:31 It should be standardized.
23:33 It makes job easy for everyone.
23:36 And it is a fair chance between flat wicket,
23:38 At least, it won't miss the hit on the six.
23:41 It's not fun to watch it outside.
23:44 Isn't it possible,
23:46 To leave it to the ground?
23:48 When you go to such a big event,
23:51 It's fair to standardize the boundary dimensions.
23:56 But, somewhere, it happens,
24:00 That you have to use different dimensions in your favor.
24:05 Like, when you go to England,
24:07 Or Australia,
24:09 Different grounds have different dimensions.
24:12 So, you adjust as a player.
24:15 This corner is big, I'll adjust as a bowler.
24:18 In our country, the grounds are big.
24:21 It's easy there.
24:23 But, when you go to Auckland,
24:25 The fine leg stands on the square leg.
24:29 And it's a 35-yard boundary.
24:31 When you stand on the pavilion side,
24:33 I remember the World Cup against South Africa.
24:36 I never used to take the ball back.
24:39 Because, I knew, this is a circle.
24:41 And, four steps back is the boundary.
24:43 So, I kept the ball up.
24:45 In those days, the front was big.
24:48 The boundary is still there, but the front was about this.
24:51 Even the sides of Dunedin are small.
24:54 I want to take this to depth.
24:56 Because, the world's finishers,
24:59 They don't finish the match with a sixer or a four.
25:04 They strike rotation,
25:06 They play in gaps and take two runs.
25:09 They finish the match like this.
25:11 But, when our batter finishes,
25:13 He finishes with a sixer or a four.
25:16 You can relate to that.
25:19 That's because, our base is PSL.
25:23 We are selected from PSL, especially white ball cricketers.
25:26 They go to finish the same way.
25:30 In leagues, you will get two good bowlers out of five.
25:33 In one team.
25:35 You will get three at most.
25:37 In international cricket, only five are good.
25:39 They are the best.
25:40 That's why, they represent their national team.
25:43 So, this element is very important.
25:46 The boundaries and a few tough pitches.
25:49 If you start talking, we will go too far.
25:52 Nowadays, this is also left out.
25:54 Off the topic a bit.
25:56 That T10 is a league.
25:58 We will talk more about that.
26:01 And about South Africa's batting.
26:03 Other than Quinton de Kock.
26:05 After this short break.
26:06 Catch you all on the other side.
26:08 Welcome back to A Sports, TEN Sports and the ARY Zap app.
26:12 We are building up to the Netherlands vs South Africa.
26:16 From Dharamshala.
26:17 JP Dumini said in this match preview.
26:20 They are not relying on one player.
26:22 But, they are relying on a cluster of players.
26:25 Another member of that batting order,
26:27 Wasim Bhai is Rasi Fandedusen.
26:30 Who has done really well off late.
26:32 He has already scored 100 in the World Cup.
26:35 How much value does he add to South Africa's batting order?
26:39 He is one of the best players in ODI cricket.
26:42 He is supremely fit.
26:44 You know, a gun fielder.
26:47 And I think a very sensible batter.
26:50 Whenever we see his batting.
26:51 If you see his record.
26:53 In general, he is a proper batter.
26:55 He is not a pinch hitter.
26:57 He is just one of the top players in world cricket.
26:59 If you see his shot selection.
27:00 He hits big.
27:01 He is equally good against spinner.
27:03 And along the grounds, he also hits short.
27:06 I mean, he is one of my top 5 players in world cricket.
27:10 Especially in ODIs.
27:12 He has a range.
27:14 And he is also fit physically.
27:17 If you see his body in general.
27:19 He plays equally well against short pitch bowling.
27:22 Against a spinner, reverse lap.
27:24 He has got it.
27:25 He is one of those players that you would love to have in your team.
27:31 Especially at number 3.
27:32 Which is a very important number.
27:34 Vaishbhav Bhatt is a seasoned domestic player in international cricket.
27:37 He has not played much cricket.
27:39 He has played 50 one day internationals.
27:41 But he has an average of 57.
27:43 So the experience he has got from South Africa's domestic cricket.
27:47 He is bringing it to South Africa's international team.
27:50 Absolutely.
27:51 He has played under Asif Cricket when he was fully matured.
27:54 And you can see that in his batting.
27:56 The kind of situation he is in.
27:58 The kind of bowler he is.
27:59 The way he plays.
28:00 He looks at the conditions very well.
28:02 He had come to Pakistan as well.
28:04 So he had a spinning track here as well.
28:06 It was difficult.
28:07 But the way he played.
28:08 He explores all the areas on the ground.
28:12 He has all kinds of shots.
28:14 He has a scare of the wicket.
28:15 He has unconventional shots as well.
28:17 He has proper cricketing shots as well.
28:19 He has a cover drive.
28:20 He has a pull shot.
28:21 He hits a good cut.
28:22 He has an on drive.
28:23 He is a complete batsman.
28:25 And the best thing is to assess the situation.
28:29 Different roles.
28:30 If you want to go and build an inning.
28:34 He does that as well.
28:35 He takes time.
28:36 He gets a chance to settle down in the dressing room.
28:40 He knows how to develop a partnership.
28:42 And then when it comes to just going big.
28:47 He has that as well.
28:48 He is a player who can play 3, 4 or 5 runs.
28:54 And if he wants to play 15 to 20 runs.
28:56 He can do that as well.
28:57 And he is very consistent in all those performances.
29:03 Shoaib, you often say that you should know how to construct innings.
29:07 Vander Duisen is a great example of having that skill in him.
29:11 Of course.
29:12 And the number he comes at.
29:14 As Wasim Bhai said, the most important number in the batting order.
29:19 Number 3.
29:20 When your openers have gone.
29:22 One of them has gone out.
29:24 Or if they have played long.
29:26 Then someone has gone out.
29:27 And your number 3 batter.
29:28 The hard work that the openers have done.
29:31 Or if someone has gone out early.
29:33 Number 3 has to go and handle that.
29:36 So number 3.
29:37 Because you can take any format.
29:39 When the wicket falls on the wicket.
29:41 Then any team overpowers you.
29:43 The momentum goes to the other side.
29:45 So as Misbah Bhai also said.
29:47 He is such a batter that he can send him in any situation.
29:51 He goes and plays.
29:52 And I guess his system.
29:54 He should definitely be credited.
29:56 That he has played such a batter on that number.
29:59 That he is mature.
30:00 That he assesses and plays accordingly.
30:03 Because he gives cushion.
30:05 And he gives cushion with a good strike rate.
30:09 That's why he is performing so consistently.
30:12 No matter what bowler you put in front of him.
30:14 He assesses the conditions and plays accordingly.
30:17 And that allows the likes of Markram, Klaasen and Miller.
30:20 To then hit really hard at the back end of the innings.
30:24 David Miller is another vital cog of the South African batting order.
30:28 Let's find out what he has to say in this interview.
30:31 Right then that was David Miller of South Africa.
30:34 Talking about how good the South African team is doing right now.
30:38 We will discuss David Miller in detail right after this very short break.
30:43 See you all on the other side.
30:44 Welcome back to the pavilion.
30:46 ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023 is in progress.
30:50 I have with me the four former captains of Pakistan.
30:53 Legends Waseem Akram, Moeen Khan, Miss Paul Huck and Shoaib Malik.
30:58 We are building up to the Netherlands vs South Africa.
31:01 Match number 15 of the World Cup.
31:04 We are talking about the match at Dharamshala.
31:08 Unfortunately, the rain is still bothering our plans.
31:13 The covers will be taken off shortly but not right now.
31:18 We spoke about David Miller before we went to the break.
31:22 We will talk about David Miller with Moeen Khan.
31:25 David Miller bats better than 100.
31:29 South Africa's highest run rate in the World Cup is an indicator of the fact that
31:34 players like David Miller are able to strike it and strike it big.
31:38 The players who came to cricket initially were very aggressive.
31:43 They have calmed down a bit after playing in different leagues.
31:47 The number of batsmen, especially those who are carrying the form in this tournament,
31:53 when they come to bat, they get a great platform.
31:57 They are like a baller under pressure.
32:01 You get a chance to attack.
32:06 He is a very sensible player.
32:08 He doesn't close his eyes and hit the ball.
32:11 He can see the ball.
32:13 He can play some extra covers or wide mid-wicket shots.
32:17 I would say he is a complete batsman of number 6.
32:22 Because of his batting, he can carry the momentum forward towards their bowling.
32:29 That is very important.
32:30 All the opponents are already on the back foot.
32:33 He finishes very well.
32:35 He has a good sense of how to finish the end overs.
32:40 He is a complete cricketer.
32:43 Being a left-hander is always very difficult for the opponents.
32:47 If there are 4 or 5 right-handers in the middle, like Quinton, who is the only left-hander,
32:55 the gap in the middle is a disturbance in the team's bowling.
33:00 When a left-hander comes after 4 or 5 right-hander batsmen,
33:04 he has to take full advantage of that.
33:07 The amount of cricket he has played in the league,
33:09 the amount of pressure he has to take,
33:14 I think that is outstanding.
33:16 And to have such a batsman in a team at number 6,
33:19 I think it is a blessing for the team.
33:21 You have also played against him as a captain.
33:24 If you were Scott Edwards, what would you have planned to get David Miller to bowl?
33:29 The most important thing that we have seen,
33:32 or we have planned and bowled a couple of times in the 2015 World Cup,
33:36 initially if you get a good gain, full length,
33:40 then the leg before will be there.
33:43 The front leg crosses slightly.
33:46 Once it settles, then it is very difficult to handle him.
33:51 Initially, the extra cover shot that you saw,
33:55 he used to hit less towards the straight boundary and the mid-wicket was very strong.
34:00 But now if you make him a wide Yorker, he hits a six in the extra cover.
34:04 So he has added more in his game.
34:07 One shot, you saw, he hit it over the point.
34:10 So he utilises the entire 360.
34:13 Early on, you have to out such batsmen.
34:16 If they take the first 4, 5, 6 balls,
34:20 settle down, then it is going to be very difficult for other teams.
34:24 Because they have the full range of shots.
34:27 If we look at the Netherlands bowling,
34:29 who would your go-to bowler be when Miller comes on to the crease?
34:32 Delayde can be, Van Beek, who is a fast bowler.
34:35 Initially, if it is being reversed, he comes at number 6.
34:38 But in these conditions, where it is already raining,
34:43 the outfield will be wet,
34:45 it is a little difficult.
34:47 You can attack him with an off-spinner,
34:50 but otherwise, it is going to be very difficult.
34:54 If there is no option left,
34:56 you can use a left-arm spinner.
34:58 Because sometimes your strength can be your weakness.
35:02 I don't think so.
35:06 He thinks that the 6-6 record will be equal.
35:10 He is a proper player.
35:12 He is one of the match winners in one way.
35:15 Because his phrase is simple.
35:18 It fits in the arc, out of the park.
35:20 It's out of the park.
35:21 That's it. That's why he is called Killer Miller.
35:23 We have talked a lot about South Africa's batting.
35:26 Let's come to their bowling.
35:27 Good signs for South Africa.
35:29 Against Australia's match, they were back in form.
35:32 The pace attack is good.
35:34 South Africa has fairly decent spinners as well.
35:37 In Maharaj and Shamsi.
35:38 We said it in the show,
35:40 when the World Cup started on 5th,
35:42 that this team has every base covered.
35:45 If we talk about fast bowlers,
35:46 there is pace.
35:47 Look at Nagidi, Rabada, Janssen.
35:50 The surprise package is left-handed.
35:53 He has a good pace, 6 feet 7 inches.
35:56 He swings early on.
35:57 He has a skitty action.
35:58 He also gets a bounce.
36:00 There is variation in spinners.
36:02 Khabba is a great spinner.
36:04 He pulls the ball well.
36:06 He has a loop.
36:07 He drifts and turns well.
36:09 He is a mystery spinner.
36:13 Shamshi.
36:14 So, proper bowling.
36:16 We talk about longer version bowlers.
36:19 He is a good test bowler.
36:21 You can see, because of the test bowling,
36:24 check his control.
36:26 Check his pace variation.
36:28 Control the flight.
36:29 He is not able to spin the rest of the bowlers.
36:32 But he is able to do that.
36:34 He leaves a little space.
36:36 He does test cricket bowling.
36:38 That's why he takes a wicket.
36:39 He doesn't hit fast.
36:41 The most important thing is,
36:42 for any spinner,
36:43 Malik has been bowling,
36:45 when you vary your pace,
36:47 your gain should fall where you want.
36:51 Consistency.
36:53 This is when we talk about
36:56 longer version bowling.
36:58 A person does it for 30-40 days.
37:01 And now, in South Africa,
37:04 the margin of error for a spinner
37:08 is very minor.
37:11 If the length is a little short,
37:13 the line is a little crooked,
37:15 if a quality spinner can bowl there,
37:18 where there is a little help,
37:21 he is able to make the batsmen dance.
37:24 He can spin whenever he wants.
37:26 Like Mishra Bhai said,
37:28 when he bats under pressure,
37:31 he will have a good target,
37:33 then we will get more clarity
37:36 about the South African team,
37:37 where they stand.
37:38 Same goes for their spinners also.
37:41 When they are bowling well,
37:44 Nageedi, Jenson and Rabada,
37:47 when they don't get wickets,
37:49 and spinners come,
37:50 and set batters play,
37:52 then we will know where they stand
37:54 in their bowling attack also.
37:56 So, this is a good thing.
37:58 Today, it's raining,
38:01 and the team that wins a match in Dharamshala
38:04 tries to bowl first.
38:07 But against small teams,
38:11 they should test their abilities,
38:14 where they feel that
38:16 going deep in the tournament
38:18 can affect them,
38:19 or create problems.
38:21 So, they have these matches,
38:23 which are relatively smaller teams
38:25 as compared to the rest of the teams.
38:27 So, they should test their abilities
38:29 where they are ready to compete
38:32 against any big team in the tournament.
38:34 We have an interview with Keshav Maharaj.
38:37 We will watch that,
38:38 and then we will come back
38:39 and resume our conversation.
38:41 Very inspiring story of Keshav Maharaj,
38:44 who is the front-line spinner for South Africa.
38:47 Another very important part of their spin attack
38:49 is Tabrez Shamsi.
38:51 And I want to bring this to you, Shoaib.
38:53 Tabrez Shamsi has shared the dressing room
38:55 of Karachi Kings with you.
38:57 How do you see his bowling variation
39:00 as part of the South African bowling lineup?
39:02 He is a very nice guy,
39:04 a very good bowler.
39:06 He has a good sense of humor.
39:08 He enjoys it.
39:09 Let's do some magic.
39:11 He puts his life into it.
39:13 And the most important thing is
39:15 he can make a sound with his shoes.
39:17 Yes, that's the story.
39:19 It's the story of him and Imran Tahir.
39:23 When they bowl,
39:24 they take off their shoes and put them in the phone.
39:26 Because the nails under the shoes
39:29 I think they utilize them
39:32 in such a way that they are dialing numbers.
39:35 But they assess the batter
39:38 that which side is their strongest area
39:41 or towards offside or down the ground
39:44 or towards leg stump.
39:46 So they assess.
39:48 And the most important thing of a spinner
39:50 is to assess the pitch first
39:53 and assess the batter
39:55 that which side is their strongest
39:57 on a particular day,
39:58 on a particular given day.
40:00 So they assess.
40:01 If the batter is playing well offside or off stump,
40:03 they bowl in the middle of the stump
40:05 or towards leg stump.
40:07 If the batter is playing horizontal shots,
40:09 they bowl a little fuller.
40:11 But their main weapon
40:14 is the opposite ball.
40:15 Which we call the googly.
40:17 Which Kuldeep Yadav is also using very well.
40:20 And recently he has developed a slider.
40:23 Because when you...
40:25 The left arm leg spinner or wrist spinner
40:27 they bowl relatively slow.
40:29 Because their wrist is used.
40:31 Finger spinner mostly bowls from low trajectories.
40:35 Rashid is the only leg spinner
40:37 who bowls from low trajectories.
40:39 But their action is very difficult.
40:42 They can only do that.
40:44 And...
40:45 Their performances in the recent past
40:47 are also very good.
40:49 And mostly South Africans
40:51 utilize them very well.
40:53 They play against those teams
40:55 who play the wrist spinner relatively light.
40:58 So it's very important
41:00 that if your wrist spinner
41:02 is batting two sets,
41:05 you bring them in front of you
41:07 so that they can strike you.
41:09 Or when you have out five or six batters
41:12 as a team unit,
41:13 then you bring your wrist spinner.
41:15 Like Australia brought Adam Zampa yesterday.
41:18 Because it's difficult.
41:19 Like there are six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
41:21 For them, for number 11,
41:23 it's difficult to play the wrist spinner.
41:25 So utilization of wrist spinner
41:28 depends on the captain and think tank.
41:31 I think this match should be played in South Africa.
41:35 The reason for this is that
41:37 all their venues in front of them...
41:39 Two matches in Mumbai and Ahmedabad.
41:41 Two matches in Chennai and Pune.
41:43 So relatively, the pitch of Dharamshala...
41:46 The pitches of the venues in front of them
41:49 will get a turning.
41:50 So they will need it there.
41:52 So if they drop a passer in this match,
41:55 then naturally, confidence is reduced.
41:59 They bowled well in the last match.
42:01 So if you look at the strength of the Netherlands
42:04 in this match,
42:06 it's not that much.
42:07 So they should play here.
42:08 I'm saying there should be continuity
42:10 in the next matches.
42:11 Because in the upcoming venues,
42:12 it will be very useful.
42:13 - And the important thing is that
42:16 variation is with many bowlers.
42:21 But for the wrist spinner,
42:22 the most important thing is control.
42:24 Malik is talking about
42:26 who should bowl fast,
42:29 when to leg spin,
42:30 when to googly.
42:32 You can do it then.
42:33 Maybe you're struggling now.
42:35 So why are you doing it?
42:36 Because where he wants to bowl,
42:37 it's not happening.
42:39 For leg spinners, it's important
42:41 that you have a lot of control.
42:44 - You get control by bowling.
42:46 Simple, there is no shortcut.
42:48 - So the most important thing is
42:50 that they have control.
42:52 Their googly, leg break,
42:53 they fall at the right place.
42:55 And the second thing that Malik talked about
42:56 is very important.
42:57 If you're playing two batsmen
43:02 and they've played one over, two over,
43:04 three over,
43:05 then you always have to change.
43:08 Don't let them settle down.
43:10 Because when I play two over as a batter,
43:12 I start picking him.
43:15 It's easier for me to run him.
43:18 So I have to give him a break.
43:20 Finger spin, okay.
43:22 Because there is no variation.
43:24 If you get a batsman stuck in it,
43:26 you can get him to do six or seven more,
43:28 there is no issue.
43:30 Let the mystery remain a mystery
43:32 for the next batter.
43:34 Stop him, three or four overs in between,
43:36 get another bowler in for a while,
43:38 if someone gets out, get him back in.
43:40 Then the bowler becomes more effective.
43:42 - Waseem bhai, would South Africa be tempted
43:44 to rest Shamsi today,
43:46 given the conditions in Dharamshala?
43:48 - I don't think so.
43:49 Conditions are fine, it's raining,
43:50 I don't think it will reach the pitch.
43:52 Plus, the team from Netherlands
43:54 doesn't play a good wrist spinner,
43:56 especially a mystery spinner.
43:58 So I can understand if they want to play,
44:00 even if they drop him,
44:02 then the fast bowler will get a little bit.
44:04 But I would play Tabrez
44:06 against, especially
44:08 this particular game.
44:10 Mohin has said it right,
44:12 you might be needing two spinners.
44:14 - We will talk about the conditions
44:16 in Dharamshala and we will continue
44:18 to build up to this match,
44:20 hoping that rain does not spoil the party
44:22 for all of us here on A-Sports,
44:24 10-Sports and ARY Zap app.
44:26 We will meet you all after a short break.
44:28 Welcome back to the pavilion
44:30 on A-Sports, 10-Sports
44:32 and the ARY Zap app.
44:34 I have with me,
44:36 Waseem Akram, Mohin Khan,
44:38 Miss Paul Haq and Shoaib Malik.
44:40 And we are building up to match number 15
44:42 of the ICC Men's Cricket
44:44 World Cup 2023.
44:46 We were talking about the spinners from South Africa.
44:48 Let's talk about another South African
44:50 spinner who will not be playing
44:52 from South Africa today.
44:54 He is playing for the Netherlands.
44:56 Van de Merve, let's see what he had to say
44:58 in this interview.
45:00 Waseem, a very experienced campaigner,
45:02 one of five South African
45:04 origin players in the Netherlands squad.
45:06 How much South African experience
45:08 will he bring into the Netherlands camp?
45:10 He is a very important player
45:12 of the Netherlands team.
45:14 He can bat and he can over in the middle.
45:16 He is a passionate character.
45:18 He has played 13 ODIs from South Africa.
45:20 The deal with Colpac
45:22 was that if you are South African
45:24 and I suppose if any of your
45:26 grandparents or parents,
45:28 if you were born in England,
45:30 you can play.
45:32 Since then he has been playing for
45:34 Somerset, I think,
45:36 for the last 5-6 years.
45:38 And being very successful.
45:40 His experience will be under control
45:42 if he is able to
45:44 beat Quinton de Kock
45:46 and Miller.
45:48 But I think he is very good against right-handers.
45:50 He can bat fast and he can bowl in the wickets.
45:52 Another spinner in the Netherlands
45:54 team is Arjen Dutt.
45:56 He has played in the off-spin in the start
45:58 and in the power play.
46:00 How much of a critical role can he play today?
46:02 Very impressive.
46:04 The way he is bowling.
46:06 He has played in all the games of Pakistan.
46:08 He has played in power play
46:10 and his action is very good.
46:12 His variation,
46:14 pace variation, control,
46:16 straight ball,
46:18 the arm ball, he is very good.
46:20 He is a crucial member
46:22 and especially today, early on,
46:24 if he uses his skills against Quinton de Kock
46:26 and initially,
46:28 if he gives a breakthrough,
46:30 he is a go-to bowler for them.
46:32 Whenever they see
46:34 a left-hander coming
46:36 in the middle,
46:38 he first over 5 in power play
46:40 and then he breaks the next 5
46:42 and gets them on every crucial stage.
46:44 He has a lot of confidence
46:46 in his team and the captain.
46:48 I think he has 10 vital overs
46:50 in the Netherlands bowling.
46:52 Mohin bhai,
46:54 how impressed are you with the Netherlands'
46:56 pace bowling? Van Beek, Van Meekeren
46:58 and Bas Delayde.
47:00 They must be fancying up today
47:02 to bowl in these conditions.
47:04 There is a little news about Van Beek
47:06 and I think he is a little unfit.
47:08 I don't know if he is 100% fit
47:10 and if he will play the match or not.
47:12 But overall, if you look at
47:14 the way McQueen and Vikram Jeet
47:16 have bowled,
47:18 the bowling looks good
47:20 and whenever they go to big matches,
47:22 it is important to look at
47:24 the opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
47:26 So, no doubt Van Beek
47:28 has bowled well
47:30 with the new ball.
47:32 He has bowled close to the stumps
47:34 and that is why he was successful
47:36 in taking the early on wicket.
47:38 So, I think it will be important
47:40 here, once again,
47:42 that if they get a chance
47:44 to bowl in these conditions
47:46 after winning the toss,
47:48 then the fast bowling here
47:50 can be a little lethal
47:52 if they get early on wickets.
47:54 What lengths should be targeted
47:56 by the Netherlands?
47:58 I can tell you that after watching the pitch.
48:00 We have no idea about the pitch.
48:02 But so far, there have been two matches here.
48:04 One was in 364.
48:06 The other was in 156 in Afghanistan's first batting.
48:08 I think I will go with the first pitch,
48:10 356. So, it will be tough for bowlers.
48:12 It doesn't matter if it is raining or not.
48:14 It all depends on how the surface is.
48:16 So far, the two matches in the World Cup
48:18 were in the surface.
48:20 Afghanistan didn't bat that well.
48:22 Because of these conditions,
48:24 there can be a little moisture.
48:26 You said the same thing
48:28 when you played in the 2019 World Cup
48:30 against Old Trafford.
48:32 You gave them a message
48:34 that they should bat here.
48:36 They bowled against India
48:38 and said that it has been raining for three days.
48:40 They have facilities.
48:42 It is raining,
48:44 but as long as the water
48:46 doesn't seep from the bottom
48:48 and there is no moisture,
48:50 it won't matter.
48:52 There was a lot of controversy
48:54 in the final of the 1999 World Cup
48:56 when we won the toss and batted.
48:58 It was a mutual decision with the players.
49:00 I consulted with everyone.
49:02 Everyone gave a unanimous decision
49:04 to bat on this pitch.
49:06 It was a big match.
49:08 It was a very pressuring match.
49:10 But later, there was a lot of criticism.
49:12 Unfortunately, we lost the game.
49:14 We lost the game and lost the game.
49:16 Sometimes,
49:18 people overthink
49:20 and make it simple.
49:22 Just make it simple.
49:24 This is a complicated game,
49:26 but you make it simple
49:28 for the players to execute their plans.
49:30 Sometimes, they make it so complicated
49:32 that the players forget their own plan.
49:34 They forget what they have to do
49:36 when they have to play individually.
49:38 They have to show long meetings.
49:40 You don't want the players
49:42 to get bored before the big game.
49:44 They should have passion
49:46 and enthusiasm.
49:48 They should have a meeting
49:50 and get the players mentally tired
49:52 before the game.
49:54 So, keep it simple.
49:56 We certainly don't want
49:58 our audiences to be bored
50:00 by incessant rain delays.
50:02 Let's move to the ground visuals
50:04 where the news is not that good.
50:06 The covers are coming back on
50:08 and the toss is being delayed
50:10 with some light showers
50:12 taking place in Dharamshala.
50:14 The lights have already been switched on.
50:16 Our coverage will continue
50:18 on A-Sports, Ten Sports
50:20 and the ARY Zap app.
50:22 But it's time to say goodbye
50:24 to the pavilion.
50:26 We'll bring you live updates
50:28 from the ground as and when
50:30 things unfold.
50:32 Until then, take care of yourselves
50:34 and we'll catch you on the other side.
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