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#ThePavilion, We discuss the exciting events of #CWC23 with cricket legends Wasim Akram, Shoaib Malik, Misbah ul Haq, Moin Khan along with Fakhar-e-Alam.
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00:00 (upbeat music)
00:02 - Hello, good evening, Assalamu Alaikum
00:05 and welcome to The Pavilion.
00:07 (speaking in foreign language)
00:11 Our continued coverage of the ICC Men's World Cup 2023
00:14 and what a journey it has been.
00:16 Just simply fantastic and a memorable one like always.
00:19 And we're almost, almost there.
00:21 One more day to go and we should be done
00:24 and dusted with this World Cup
00:26 and hopefully go away with a lot of good memories amongst us.
00:29 With me in The Pavilion,
00:31 I've got four outstanding gentlemen, four friends,
00:34 four people that I've shared this space with
00:36 and really thoroughly enjoyed my time with them.
00:38 Four former captains of Pakistan.
00:41 First up, I've got the young dynamic,
00:43 one of the finest fielders in the game of cricket,
00:45 a great pair of spin boarding and captain Pakistan,
00:47 Shoaib Malik.
00:48 Good evening, Assalamu Alaikum and welcome Shoaib.
00:50 - Good evening, Walaikum Assalam, Assalamu Alaikum everyone.
00:53 - When the Pakistani batting order was in disorder,
00:56 this man would stand alone to bring some kind of order
00:59 and one of the most successful test captains
01:01 in Pakistan's test cricket history.
01:03 I've got Miss Fawlah.
01:04 Good evening, Assalamu Alaikum and welcome Miss Fawlah.
01:06 - Good evening, Walaikum Assalam, Assalamu Alaikum everyone.
01:11 - Two straight thumbs and eight crooked fingers.
01:13 The silver fox,
01:15 which we call the silver fox.
01:17 I have with me another great wicketkeeper of Pakistan,
01:20 captain Pakistan, man of crisis, Moeen Khan.
01:24 Assalamu Alaikum, good evening.
01:25 - Jai Ma'am Assalam.
01:26 - Moeen, good to have you here again like always.
01:28 - Thank you very much.
01:29 - Assalamu Alaikum everyone.
01:31 (speaking in foreign language)
01:35 - The sultan of swing and the king of all rounders,
01:52 Maseem Akram.
01:52 Good evening and Assalamu Alaikum, Maseem.
01:53 - Good evening, good evening.
01:55 Very brave of you for Fakhar.
01:57 (speaking in foreign language)
02:01 - But you did it amazingly well by the way.
02:04 - That's because I have a good teacher.
02:06 Because I have a great teacher.
02:08 The man who has taught everything.
02:09 (speaking in foreign language)
02:13 (laughing)
02:17 (speaking in foreign language)
02:22 (speaking in foreign language)
02:26 - So guys, let me ask a question.
02:41 Tomorrow is the last day for the World Cup.
02:45 Congratulations to India and Australia
02:47 for reaching the finals.
02:49 (speaking in foreign language)
02:51 India (speaking in foreign language)
02:52 but Australia really worked hard.
02:54 In general, congratulations to both the teams,
02:56 both the nations.
02:57 In the end, the top teams of this World Cup have qualified.
03:00 (speaking in foreign language)
03:04 I'll start off with Misma.
03:09 How was the journey this year, Misma?
03:11 (speaking in foreign language)
03:15 (speaking in foreign language)
03:19 The way Fakhar is just continuing,
03:32 I think (speaking in foreign language)
03:37 So overall, it is good and really enjoying.
03:40 (speaking in foreign language)
03:45 Feedback (speaking in foreign language)
03:50 It means you are doing well.
03:57 Otherwise, it's difficult.
03:58 Every day (speaking in foreign language)
04:03 But still, (speaking in foreign language)
04:13 That means we are doing well.
04:16 (speaking in foreign language)
04:20 You always miss that.
04:22 (speaking in foreign language)
04:26 (speaking in foreign language)
04:34 (speaking in foreign language)
04:38 You miss that company.
04:45 (speaking in foreign language)
04:49 It was wonderful journey.
04:54 And another journey within the journey
04:56 (speaking in foreign language)
05:00 The journey within the journey.
05:02 (speaking in foreign language)
05:04 (speaking in foreign language)
05:05 Always (speaking in foreign language)
05:10 (laughing)
05:13 (speaking in foreign language)
05:17 (laughing)
05:19 (speaking in foreign language)
05:25 (speaking in foreign language)
05:29 (laughing)
05:38 (speaking in foreign language)
05:42 Hopefully, (speaking in foreign language)
05:49 (speaking in foreign language)
05:53 Behind the scenes.
05:58 - Oh, absolutely.
05:58 No question about it. - That's very important.
05:59 - No question about it. - Thank you.
06:00 - Yeah. - No question about that.
06:02 (speaking in foreign language)
06:06 - I was ever away from the family.
06:09 (speaking in foreign language)
06:13 And thank you.
06:28 (speaking in foreign language)
06:32 I traveled to Dubai.
06:34 (speaking in foreign language)
06:38 - We hardly socialize.
06:42 (speaking in foreign language)
06:46 And you're doing well.
06:49 So everyone comes to you.
06:51 They praise you.
06:52 Or they talk about your performances.
06:54 (speaking in foreign language)
06:56 It's nothing less as compared to your playing days.
06:59 (speaking in foreign language)
07:03 Once again, thank you everyone.
07:21 And I hope (speaking in foreign language)
07:28 - Absolutely.
07:29 (speaking in foreign language)
07:33 No, but look, so it's been just like remarkable.
07:37 (speaking in foreign language)
07:41 And that we are actually creating something
07:51 that will connect with people so hard.
07:54 And one of the best compliments
07:56 that I think I have heard for our show
07:58 is that (speaking in foreign language)
08:03 This is the friend's version of sports show.
08:21 (speaking in foreign language)
08:26 So that has been, so the chemistry has been great.
08:29 And the reason why this chemistry is great,
08:31 Fasim, I have to give you full credit for this.
08:33 Why?
08:33 Because one of the legend that you are,
08:37 for you to open up your heart
08:39 and to accept us as your equals.
08:42 You've given us.
08:43 (speaking in foreign language)
08:46 Anybody is less or more.
08:48 We all come here as equals
08:50 when we are sitting at back there.
08:52 We crack jokes.
08:53 We make fun of each other.
08:55 And we all laugh about it.
08:57 We have no insecurities and no nothing.
08:59 That chemistry is very, very unusual.
09:02 (speaking in foreign language)
09:06 Chemistry (speaking in foreign language)
09:11 Isn't he always miserable, Skip?
09:36 Always.
09:36 I mean, that's miserable.
09:37 Not miserable is not the word.
09:38 That's not the word.
09:39 He's a different person.
09:40 (speaking in foreign language)
09:44 Very good.
09:49 (speaking in foreign language)
09:53 (speaking in foreign language)
09:57 (speaking in foreign language)
10:01 (speaking in foreign language)
10:05 (laughing)
10:23 (speaking in foreign language)
10:27 (speaking in foreign language)
10:31 Be kind to everyone.
10:35 Be nice to everybody.
10:36 And you know, be not like you.
10:38 (speaking in foreign language)
10:42 And Wasim, what about you, man?
10:43 - I had a great time.
10:45 Look, I thought when we started,
10:47 I knew it was a long road.
10:49 45 games, almost month and a half.
10:52 And one day cricket, as we all know,
10:54 (speaking in foreign language)
10:55 (speaking in foreign language)
10:59 And then, you know, in between,
11:00 (speaking in foreign language)
11:02 double headers, maybe you are here all day.
11:04 And first for two, three days were difficult for me,
11:07 personally, travel, getting used to the, you know,
11:10 scumming here.
11:11 But once I got the hang of it,
11:13 first three, four days, I really enjoyed my journey.
11:15 So I want to thank everyone, you, you, you, and Misbah.
11:19 And of course, the people behind the scenes,
11:21 there were 50, 60 of them.
11:22 Every one of them made my life very comfortable, easy,
11:26 most importantly, fun.
11:28 (speaking in foreign language)
11:28 Enjoy.
11:29 - Enjoy.
11:30 (speaking in foreign language)
11:34 - Absolutely.
11:41 There are no scripts here.
11:43 There is no preparation whatsoever.
11:45 (speaking in foreign language)
11:50 We go through them,
11:51 but there is no such thing,
11:52 (speaking in foreign language)
11:56 - Especially way forward.
12:05 (speaking in foreign language)
12:09 (speaking in foreign language)
12:13 - With that, we're going to take a break here
12:28 in the pavilion.
12:28 When we come back, more on the other side.
12:30 Stay with us.
12:31 (upbeat music)
12:34 (speaking in foreign language)
12:37 Welcome to the pavilion.
12:38 (speaking in foreign language)
12:41 I'm joined by four outstanding cricketing minds.
12:44 I've got Shoaib Malik, Misfaul Haq,
12:45 Mohin Khan, and Wasim Akram.
12:47 And we are on fire.
12:49 (laughing)
12:52 One slip, one slip, that's all it'll take.
13:01 (speaking in foreign language)
13:04 Yeah, you know what?
13:05 It is one of our last shows, Wasim.
13:07 - Yes.
13:08 - Before I get into the serious bit of it.
13:10 Can we have the Naag one more time?
13:13 - That has to be, Naag has to be here.
13:15 (speaking in foreign language)
13:18 - All right, folks.
13:33 It's been a fantastic road to the final.
13:35 Now, Australia and India are going to be clashing tomorrow.
13:37 We're going to be here with the pre-match
13:39 and then, of course, the post-match.
13:40 But before that, you know,
13:42 we've had two really great semifinals.
13:45 Of course, (speaking in foreign language)
13:50 This was the first one where India,
13:52 absolutely outclassed New Zealand.
13:53 Now, 397 for four.
13:55 Kohli there making his 50th ODI century, 117.
13:59 What a player he is.
14:01 And then, Iyer that day showed a lot of class.
14:03 Gil there missing out on his century
14:05 'cause he was looking really good.
14:06 Had he not had that injury problem,
14:09 he would have been really fantastic.
14:11 Rohit there, not many people would understand
14:13 the scorecard when they see this 10 years down the road
14:16 or 15 years down the road.
14:17 But that Rohit Sharma innings is what set India up for 397.
14:22 And this is the most important point
14:24 that we've been talking about here in the pavilion.
14:26 (speaking in foreign language)
14:30 Southeast bowl there, Southeast there, very expensive.
14:34 Three for 100.
14:35 This is how it went down then.
14:36 New Zealand in response,
14:38 their openers could not flourish on this particular day.
14:40 But it was the Mitchell-Williamson partnership
14:43 that gave hope to the New Zealand chances.
14:46 However, that hope faded away fast
14:48 because the Indian bowling,
14:51 well, you know what they call this.
14:52 They call it the Shami final
14:53 because it was Muhammad Shami that was unbelievable.
14:56 Seven for 57, that bowling card says it all.
14:59 But that Mitchell century will not be forgotten.
15:02 India winning this one by a very convincing margin
15:05 of 70 runs and showing they are one of the best teams
15:08 in this World Cup, undefeated and going into the final.
15:11 (speaking in foreign language)
15:33 And then you saw that the Aussie seamers,
15:35 the fast bowlers, they attacked the South Africans
15:38 really hard and destroyed the top order.
15:41 However, it was Miller, the killer,
15:43 with that thriller of a century
15:45 that stole the night away for South African batting
15:48 with Klaassen coming to the party with 47.
15:50 Had Klaassen stayed there
15:51 and he was looking like he was very good,
15:53 this would have been a different total
15:55 and maybe we would have had a different result.
15:57 However, Australia started off,
15:59 Travis Head came out all guns blazing
16:02 and took on the South African bowlers.
16:04 Maybe a trick missed there by the South African captain
16:07 to wait too long to bring his spinners.
16:10 However, it was Travis Head, Smith there with the 30,
16:13 but an irresponsible shot that could have costed Australia
16:16 the semifinal.
16:17 Eventually it was Warner, sorry, Inglis and the captain
16:20 that really finished up the game for Australia.
16:23 Australia winning this one by three wickets
16:25 and that's how these two teams have made it to the final.
16:29 It's been fantastic, Wasim.
16:30 But one thing, we'll talk about this tomorrow
16:32 on cricket and all the teams
16:34 because we've got a lot of things to talk about.
16:36 Let's talk about ODI cricket in general.
16:38 If you look at the future of ODI,
16:41 after this tournament, after the World Cup,
16:44 straight away, let me read this,
16:46 Australia only has 11 ODIs this year.
16:49 England has only eight ODIs this year.
16:51 India has six ODIs scheduled this year.
16:54 South Africa has six scheduled.
16:55 New Zealand has three.
16:56 And any ODI of Pakistan this year,
17:00 you know, this coming year,
17:01 I'm talking about the next 12 months of this year.
17:03 12 months.
17:04 This is on your screen for the next 12 months.
17:06 If you look at that,
17:07 I mean, me and Mohit were discussing this on the way in,
17:11 remember, Mohit?
17:12 When we used to play cricket,
17:14 we used to have at least 35-35 one-day games a year.
17:19 I can imagine another format has come up,
17:22 T20 has come up.
17:24 But now, like the gap in Test cricket has increased,
17:26 big country, you know, big nations,
17:28 cricket-playing nations and the upcoming nations,
17:31 they're increasing and that's what's happening in one-day cricket.
17:34 And the gap is increasing.
17:36 That's why, you see,
17:36 the two teams that have come in the finals,
17:38 now, why is the importance of this format for me?
17:42 Because their mindset is different.
17:44 Shoaib, who is the present player,
17:45 and Mishpa can explain it better.
17:47 In a way, for a better,
17:48 and for T20, you have to come and make your own innings.
17:51 And the two finalists that have come,
17:52 one has nine Test players,
17:54 one has ten Test players.
17:55 Wow.
17:56 Australia has eight.
17:57 Sorry, Australia has eight and nine,
17:59 vice versa, same for India.
18:01 So that shows in the end,
18:03 that only long-term cricket players
18:04 will perform on a regular basis in one-day.
18:08 That's the fact, isn't it, boys?
18:09 Yeah, absolutely.
18:10 One more thing I want to ask,
18:12 Mishpa, let me bring this conversation,
18:13 because Waseem has said something very important,
18:15 that long-term players come.
18:17 In the old days,
18:18 in the old days, if you take 90s cricket,
18:19 this era of Waseem and Mohin,
18:22 if you take this era,
18:23 our domestic cricket was given a lot of attention
18:26 over four days.
18:27 Right?
18:28 There were things like Pentagular, Wills Cup,
18:30 all of them used to be there.
18:32 Pentagular.
18:33 Pentagular, what was it?
18:35 There was a one-day tournament.
18:36 That too used to be there.
18:37 One-day tournament.
18:38 Before that, Wills Cup was huge.
18:40 Wills Cup, yes, you know, was huge.
18:41 Regularly, I used to play in the Pakistan team.
18:43 If the tour was over,
18:44 I used to come straight back
18:46 and whoever had come to my department,
18:48 Mohin also used to come back.
18:49 I used to come straight away.
18:50 Straight away.
18:51 I came to the team because of that tournament.
18:53 Yes, straight.
18:54 And so did Saklan as well.
18:56 Yeah.
18:57 So, the question that I wanted to put forward,
18:59 actually for all of you,
19:00 is that after playing long-format games,
19:03 the boys were chosen
19:05 and they used to make their way into the Pakistan team.
19:08 Now, is it not that we see a lot of PSL
19:10 and league performances in 20 overs,
19:12 a boy does a lot of force,
19:14 "Hey, bring him in the team, bring him in the team."
19:15 I have a very quick example
19:16 because I'm talking a lot,
19:18 let me let him speak too.
19:19 The example is that
19:20 a long-term cricketer,
19:22 the one who has come from the first class,
19:23 for instance, Abdullah Farooq,
19:25 who is our boy?
19:26 Abdullah Shafiq.
19:27 Take Abdullah Shafiq.
19:28 He has scored in four days,
19:29 he has scored 200 in test matches,
19:30 he has scored 100.
19:32 He can adapt to one day
19:34 and then to T20.
19:35 Correct.
19:35 Only I think one player I remember in world cricket
19:38 who came as a T20 specialist
19:41 and then became one of the greatest in test cricket too
19:44 and that is
19:45 David Warner.
19:45 David Warner.
19:46 So, there has been one player in 148 years of history.
19:50 Another example, Wasim Bhai,
19:52 Babar Azam,
19:53 he has played a lot of first class cricket.
19:55 Yeah.
19:56 He has consistently made two or three season runs
19:59 and then he has come.
20:00 That's why, as you said,
20:02 it becomes easy to adapt.
20:04 Now, why does it become easy?
20:05 It becomes easy because
20:07 the example given by Wasim Bhai
20:09 that the Australian has 9 or 10
20:12 and India has 10 or 11,
20:14 in these numbers.
20:15 That's because
20:16 when you come from test or 4-day cricket,
20:20 you bat in different situations
20:22 and you bowl in different situations.
20:25 The conditions are also different.
20:26 No, it is because things change.
20:29 Things change in such a way that
20:30 a bowler comes and his first spell is not good
20:33 and the middle spell comes and does it better
20:34 and you have to play it better.
20:37 So, the reason for that is that
20:39 you are ready to deal with any situation.
20:42 That's why you see that the T20 players
20:45 when they play test or ODI cricket,
20:48 as soon as the situation changes,
20:50 they don't know how to go to plan B
20:52 or what to do.
20:53 They don't know how to go to plan C.
20:55 So, first of all, when you have to compete
20:58 at a higher level in a bigger format
21:00 like test cricket and ODI cricket,
21:02 you have to be ready for everything.
21:05 Because if different scenarios come,
21:06 you have to deal with them.
21:07 But if you are not ready,
21:09 then it's just a matter of God's grace.
21:11 Sorry, Mr. Bhai, you'd like to add to that?
21:14 Look, all the things that he has said,
21:17 if you see why India is dominating,
21:20 all the players are dominating in T20
21:23 and they are dominating in test cricket.
21:25 So, the middle format, they will always play well.
21:28 You have good bowlers for the longer version
21:31 and there are batsmen too.
21:32 And then you are playing IPL in T20
21:35 and giving great performances.
21:37 So, this is very important for us going forward.
21:40 Any one player can definitely be like that in T20
21:44 and you can bring him specifically for that role,
21:47 like Maxwell.
21:49 But if you have three to four players in your batting lineup
21:53 or in bowling,
21:55 four out of six will be of that type
21:58 and three out of five bowlers will be in T20,
22:03 then whenever you play the middle format,
22:05 you will struggle in ODI cricket.
22:07 So, what do we have to do in this situation?
22:10 If we are playing zero one day,
22:13 then focus on the test matches and T20.
22:15 So, that will give you a balance somewhere.
22:18 And then always choose players
22:21 who have good basics,
22:22 who are good players in the longer format
22:24 and are giving good performances in T20.
22:27 Prefer them even in the shorter format.
22:30 Only then I think you can do better.
22:32 Like Australia is doing, like India is doing.
22:35 If England hasn't done this,
22:38 I mean, if they have a lot of players from other formats,
22:41 then they have struggled in bowling and batting.
22:45 Mohin, does the ICC want the World Cup Super League
22:50 which was played from 2020 to 2023,
22:53 where all the teams had to play 24 ODIs
22:57 and the smaller teams, like Ireland, Afghanistan,
22:59 Netherlands, had the chance to get enough ODI games.
23:04 Do you think maybe we should revert back to that?
23:06 Well, it depends.
23:07 Again, I think the T20 cricket has been played a lot,
23:11 and that's why there are a lot of problems.
23:14 Even the bilateral series that we are seeing,
23:18 the ODIs, the big teams,
23:20 they have very few matches.
23:22 Even in Pakistan, we just talked about it,
23:24 New Zealand has three matches, South Africa has six.
23:28 One of the main reasons is that
23:30 most of the nations are organising their own leagues.
23:35 Private leagues have also come up,
23:37 like T10 has come up.
23:39 I think it's difficult to create that window,
23:43 which is why the ICC has also faced this problem.
23:47 They will face more problems in the future.
23:49 Because, as you said,
23:51 they have very few ODIs,
23:53 and they don't know what will happen next year.
23:55 In the 2027 World Cup, they have to use rankings.
23:57 When you have very few matches,
23:59 how will the rankings be fair?
24:01 If a team is playing 10 ODIs a year,
24:04 and they have played 31,
24:06 then the rankings will increase.
24:08 It will be 100%.
24:10 And mainly, it's because of the T20,
24:12 that the ICC has to accommodate
24:14 every cricket board.
24:16 Because, it's basically a revenue generation.
24:19 What?
24:20 Ventures, you know.
24:22 Basically, everyone is going towards profitability.
24:24 They have to play cricket, develop it.
24:26 I think, for development of the game, it's okay.
24:30 But, the ones that are decreasing,
24:32 they have to take it very seriously.
24:34 Because, the quality of cricket will keep decreasing.
24:36 We have to take a break here at The Pavilion.
24:38 But, when we come back, there's more. Stay with us.
24:40 Welcome back to The Pavilion.
24:44 I'm Fakhr-e-Anam. You're watching AY Sports and the ARY Zap app.
24:46 And, tomorrow is the big day.
24:48 It's the final of the ICC World Cup 2023.
24:50 And, tonight, I am here with my colleagues,
24:53 Shoaib Malik, Mismal Haq, Mohin Khan, and Wasim Akram.
24:57 We're talking generally about ODI cricket.
24:59 We were talking about it before the break.
25:01 Let's continue this discussion.
25:03 Mohin, you made a good point that leagues are being focused more.
25:07 And, towards profitability.
25:10 And, in an economic sense, Wasim is taking precedence.
25:14 If this continues, then, for the ICC,
25:17 it will be difficult to control the cricket internationally.
25:22 Because, everybody said, "Look, I don't need to worry."
25:24 What Wasim said yesterday was very important.
25:26 We need to reduce the 50 overs of the one-day match.
25:33 Then, it will be better.
25:35 And, one ball, 40 overs.
25:38 So that youngsters also come back to one-day.
25:41 And, less time.
25:42 You're good for sponsors.
25:43 Slightly faster game.
25:44 You can have the kind of same rules.
25:46 8 overs per bowler.
25:48 And, you know, it will be double of T20, obviously.
25:50 It's obvious.
25:51 But, and I think that's the way to future for one-day cricket.
25:54 Because, in today's time, people hardly have time or attention span, most importantly.
25:59 It's just way too long.
26:01 Great tournament.
26:02 Throughout the world, everywhere it's happening.
26:04 Like, cricket is happening everywhere.
26:05 Now, unfortunately, we saw the Asian Cup.
26:08 You saw the turn-around of the public.
26:10 It was very less.
26:11 Yeah.
26:12 Turn-out was very less.
26:13 Look, it's a Legends League.
26:14 You know, Misma played now.
26:16 In America.
26:17 Yeah, UST.
26:18 You guys were in Qatar.
26:19 And, these guys are busy.
26:21 That's great.
26:22 The cricket is like normal cricket.
26:24 By the way, Waseem, if we look at the world,
26:27 things are going towards recession.
26:30 Less opportunity for people to earn money and run their houses.
26:33 So, according to that, it takes 8 to 10 hours.
26:38 Yeah, in Mumbai.
26:39 I've seen the ODI.
26:40 If you're a commentator, that's I'm talking about if game.
26:43 We were in Sri Lanka.
26:44 2 hours before.
26:45 3 o'clock game start.
26:47 Sri Lankan time.
26:48 Our call time was 12.
26:49 Quarter to 12.
26:51 Half 11.
26:52 We used to leave.
26:53 Whatever was your call time.
26:54 I think Shoaib is talking from the public's perspective.
26:57 Public, even if you put an hour before the game starts.
27:00 12 hours have passed.
27:01 12 hours have passed.
27:02 When will you work?
27:04 Yeah.
27:05 Every person looks for an opportunity to run their families.
27:10 So, in this way, in the world, as Waseem bhai said,
27:13 if this format is shortened, people can be attracted back.
27:18 You know, when I used to play in England, it was Sunday league.
27:22 There was Benson & Hedges, that was 55 overs.
27:25 Then, Net West, that was 60 overs.
27:28 Which were never-ending.
27:29 There was lunch and tea.
27:31 And then there was 40 overs, which were only on Sundays.
27:35 And the fun part was, the run-up was 17, whatever they had set,
27:43 I think it was 17 meters or less even.
27:46 But 10 meters maybe.
27:48 They used to put a white line on 10 meters before the match.
27:51 No one could take a run-up more than that.
27:53 And luckily, my run-up was also like that.
27:55 So, it worked for me.
27:57 But for bowlers who had long run-ups, they struggled.
28:00 It was very interesting.
28:01 It was a totally different ball game for bowlers.
28:03 What should they do?
28:04 If they say, the small one will make the big one big,
28:07 and the big one will make the small one small.
28:10 Then, I would definitely have a problem.
28:12 Then, there would be a problem.
28:13 This World Cup has been fantastic for batters, Mishra.
28:18 630-something odd sixes hit.
28:22 636 sixes that have been hit.
28:24 39 centuries, strike rate 93.
28:27 And batting average 32.
28:29 Why is it coming on your screen?
28:31 Is it all over?
28:33 I have to read it now.
28:35 No, you have to comment on it.
28:36 Your job is to be an expert.
28:38 Your job is to comment.
28:40 My job is to give facts.
28:41 You have to read the facts and tell us in which direction they are going.
28:45 This is something that everyone was foreseeing.
28:49 You are going to play in India.
28:51 The ground is excellent.
28:53 The pitches are very good.
28:54 When we went there to play the series,
28:57 our bowling attack was one of the best.
29:01 Spin bowling, pacers.
29:03 But we didn't know.
29:05 300 runs were like this.
29:07 Even if we didn't bowl, 300-350 were there.
29:10 When I went there for the first time,
29:12 you start seeing your own bowling.
29:15 You get a different sound when you play short.
29:18 Because the pace is true, the bounce is good.
29:21 When you hit a short, you don't get the feeling of a batsman like in India.
29:26 And then you get value for your shots.
29:29 When you are slightly on the side of a fielder,
29:33 he doesn't stop so easily.
29:35 That was the reason, I think.
29:37 And the rules,
29:40 4 fielders are outside the box.
29:42 In between, the longest period of time.
29:45 The first 10 overs are power plays.
29:47 It was on the cards that 300-350 will be made here.
29:51 I think that still,
29:53 in many matches, the runs were not made like that.
29:56 On many pitches, the bowlers still got help.
29:59 In the evening, big runs were saved.
30:04 I think that in this World Cup,
30:07 the bowlers got a lot of help.
30:09 That really impressed us, Mishpa.
30:12 We were discussing off the field.
30:14 We thought that in every match, there will be 400-500 scores.
30:19 But what impressed us was that the pitch behaviour on every ground was different.
30:24 And this shows us,
30:27 when we repeatedly ask the question,
30:30 how can Indian batters adopt such good conditions?
30:36 Basically, in this World Cup, it has been clear that
30:39 every venue is different.
30:42 Some have a bounce pace, some have spin,
30:45 some have a sluggish pitch.
30:48 In Calcutta, you have to have a different set of skills to play there.
30:54 And when you go to play in Mumbai, that is totally different.
30:58 And in Chennai, it is totally different.
31:01 And the ground dimensions are also different.
31:04 So, for the bowlers and batters,
31:07 it is important to adapt.
31:09 The boundary is small here, the boundary is small there.
31:12 How to use the pitch in our favour.
31:15 That's why I think,
31:17 wherever they go, in whatever conditions,
31:20 they are successful.
31:22 And they adapt to those conditions quickly.
31:25 It is a great learning for the teams from sub-continent.
31:28 They are trying to do what is happening in India.
31:33 I think it is a big learning curve.
31:36 The biggest problem we face is,
31:39 not only the soil of the area,
31:44 but also the soil of the land.
31:47 We have to go to every place,
31:50 even in Nandipur, in Abu Dhabi,
31:53 the pitch behaves the same way as it does here.
31:57 Lahore, Karachi, Pindi, there is a slight difference.
32:01 It is not that naturally,
32:04 in Pindi, there were spin pitches,
32:07 because they used the soil from there.
32:10 Karachi was totally different, Lahore was different.
32:13 In Gujranwala, you used to get bounce.
32:16 In Calcutta, you used to get bounce.
32:18 So, wherever you go,
32:20 you know that batting is a paradise,
32:23 bowlers are not getting anything.
32:25 Then it is very difficult to produce proper cricket.
32:28 If we want improvement,
32:30 if we select our players from PSL,
32:36 then we start giving them different conditions in PSL.
32:41 At least our product is ready to play in different conditions.
32:47 Whether it is a bowler, batter or a spinner.
32:49 I completely agree with that.
32:51 Another very good point,
32:53 and I think we should talk about this.
32:56 I have one point,
32:58 I hope you all have observed it,
33:01 whenever there is a match in Pakistan,
33:03 we see a lot of crowd in the ground.
33:05 It clearly shows they want to see the bilateral series.
33:08 This is my point, and we are sitting on this platform,
33:11 I think we should talk about it,
33:13 because this program is going worldwide,
33:15 especially Indians are following our program.
33:18 I think they want this bilateral series to happen.
33:21 I think the kind of reception Pakistan team got,
33:24 we were talking about it,
33:26 do you remember when our team reached,
33:28 people were present at the airport,
33:30 I knew this will happen to Pakistan.
33:32 Because you have the experience,
33:34 nobody knows India better than you.
33:36 There is no question about it.
33:38 So, I think Mohin has a very good point,
33:40 that people coming to Pakistan's stadium,
33:43 buying tickets and coming to watch,
33:45 even when India was not playing Pakistan,
33:48 India-Pakistan match, it was understood,
33:50 that Indian supporters were going to support India.
33:53 It is vice versa, when they come here,
33:55 they get the same reception.
33:57 So, I think Mohin has a very good point,
33:59 that the people of both India and Pakistan,
34:01 want to see a bilateral series.
34:03 And I would definitely urge,
34:05 in fact you should urge,
34:07 mostly your voice is heard across the border a lot.
34:10 Yeah, I am all for it.
34:12 India-Pakistan cricket,
34:14 apart from the cricketers,
34:16 will benefit financially,
34:18 and the boards will benefit too.
34:20 And the financial benefit,
34:22 is that you can invest your money
34:24 on cricket.
34:26 And plus, people to people contact is so important.
34:28 Yeah.
34:30 I am not a politician,
34:32 so I can't talk about politics.
34:34 But yeah, people to people contact is very important.
34:37 Cricket is one sport,
34:39 and they bring countries together.
34:41 And that's why I think,
34:43 So the few Pakistanis that did go to India,
34:45 who got visas,
34:47 who got visas from journalists,
34:49 if you see, maybe Hashmi sir,
34:51 or our other big Pakistani journalists,
34:53 who went there,
34:55 who shared stories,
34:57 shared pictures,
34:59 with local journalists,
35:01 with Indian journalists,
35:03 eating at their homes,
35:05 doing this and that.
35:07 So, it's a different geopolitical interest.
35:09 Fair enough.
35:11 That's up to the big boys, the politicians,
35:13 to have a dialogue about it and move it.
35:15 But let's not hold cricket hostage
35:17 to these things.
35:19 Let's open up this, at least this sporting discipline,
35:21 competition, you know, competition,
35:23 healthy competition.
35:25 And with that, we're going to take a break here.
35:27 When we come back, there's more on the other side. Stay with us.
35:29 Welcome back to The Pavilion.
35:35 We're here with the Aery Sports and the ARY Zap app,
35:37 our continued coverage of the ICC Men's World Cup.
35:39 And tomorrow is the big day.
35:41 It's Australia versus India
35:43 for the final.
35:45 Which team is going to walk away with the crown?
35:47 We'll find out.
35:49 But tonight, we're talking about just generally other things.
35:51 Before the break, Mohin made a very good point
35:53 that there should be India-Pakistan bilateral series
35:55 because the people on both sides of the border
35:57 want to see that. We'd really like to see that.
35:59 Let's talk about
36:01 a few other things. Interestingly,
36:03 aggressive batting
36:05 has been the key here.
36:07 And the two teams we're talking about today
36:09 who have gone to the final,
36:11 these are the only two teams
36:13 who have batted more than six runs per over
36:15 in their first ten overs.
36:17 No other team in this
36:19 World Cup has done that. These are the only two teams,
36:21 Australia and India,
36:23 that... - And that they did
36:25 by playing proper cricketing shots. - Yes.
36:27 - Not slogging,
36:29 not pinch hitter. Great player
36:31 like Rohit Sharma starts off
36:33 playing his shots, then Gill starts from India,
36:35 and then same goes for Australia.
36:37 Now, earlier it was Mitch Marsh,
36:39 now it's Travis Head, and now
36:41 he's one of the greatest modern great of all time,
36:43 the way he bats.
36:45 And I mean, what I love about
36:47 the semi-final,
36:49 David Warner lifts the entire team
36:51 up, the way he fields.
36:53 Wherever he stands,
36:55 he dives, he's at it,
36:57 his throw is like a bullet,
36:59 he's at it, he's at it, he's at it, he's at it, he's at it.
37:01 That's very important, and it's a habit. - Yeah.
37:03 - If you're a newbie in the team,
37:05 and your first throw is three runs,
37:07 then you'll be used to it for life.
37:09 Because, it's throw,
37:11 you know, some say,
37:13 "Random batsmen have a weird culture."
37:15 I'm talking about the cricketing culture.
37:17 Don't throw, you'll ruin your arm.
37:19 Where do you want to take your arm?
37:21 It's for the throw, right? - Like you say,
37:23 where do you want to take the bat? - Exactly.
37:25 Not me, the umpire says that.
37:27 - Wow. - That's what I'm talking about.
37:29 It's a completely different thing
37:31 than a bowler. - They put so much pressure
37:33 early on. - Yeah, early on.
37:35 - They didn't give any runs, they were
37:37 solid fours, which they stopped.
37:39 One is batsmen, the other is wickets,
37:41 you're not getting any ball.
37:43 And on top of that, the middle,
37:45 after three overs, you stop that too.
37:47 - Feel it. - So, pressure.
37:49 So, one thing we know from here,
37:51 what we're talking about,
37:53 the key to success,
37:55 is the run rate.
37:57 But along with that,
37:59 the most important thing we need to pick
38:01 is that technique
38:03 is very important.
38:05 Consistency will only come if
38:07 your technique is good.
38:09 - If not, it'll be one-off.
38:11 - We need consistency. - You don't need foundation.
38:13 - Why do we say D20 is modern day cricket?
38:15 Modern day cricket is fine,
38:17 you hit one or two shots.
38:19 But at the same time,
38:21 your average also
38:23 matters.
38:25 And that is the key.
38:27 Otherwise, it's not worth it.
38:29 You have to win 5 or 6 matches,
38:31 and if a batsman scores in the 7th,
38:33 your team is already out.
38:35 You'll have to wait for him
38:37 to score in the 6th or 7th.
38:39 So, it's fine if you look at
38:41 modern day cricket,
38:43 but again,
38:45 consistency is the key.
38:47 - It's important,
38:49 you mentioned David Warner,
38:51 when do you field like this?
38:53 There are two elements.
38:55 One is your physical fitness.
38:57 - Paramore.
38:59 - That should be here,
39:01 there should be no compromise.
39:03 Because that allows you to stay consistent.
39:05 Why does Virat make runs?
39:07 Okay, he knows
39:09 the process of making runs,
39:11 but if his body
39:13 doesn't support him,
39:15 how will he make runs?
39:17 If David Warner dives left-right,
39:19 he'll be out.
39:21 - So, physical fitness,
39:23 there should be no compromise.
39:25 One more thing, we do discuss
39:27 about Pakistan cricket team,
39:29 that just fight till the last ball.
39:31 But are we capable
39:33 enough to do that?
39:35 I don't think so.
39:37 - Okay.
39:39 - Workload management,
39:41 you must tell us about it.
39:43 Since the concept of workload management,
39:45 I've seen players
39:47 who don't want to risk their lives,
39:49 they want to save energy.
39:51 If a bowler comes,
39:53 they say, "Don't worry,
39:55 I won't do it again."
39:57 - I want to give an example
39:59 of this.
40:01 Waqar was our coach.
40:03 We were in Sri Lanka
40:05 for the 2015 tour.
40:07 You know, Sri Lanka is very hot,
40:09 humidity is very high,
40:11 you're sweating all the time.
40:13 The minute you step out from the hotel
40:15 you're not sweating.
40:17 I still remember,
40:19 our fielding session,
40:21 a day before the game,
40:23 we were exhausted.
40:25 - Wow.
40:27 - But only those players
40:29 were consistently performing
40:31 who didn't have blockage.
40:33 Why? My energy is gone.
40:35 - I'm tired.
40:37 - I'm tired.
40:39 I don't know what will happen tomorrow.
40:41 - They say, "Eat 3 snacks,
40:43 you'll feel stronger."
40:45 - Another thought,
40:47 2 snacks.
40:49 - And with that,
40:51 if you want physical fitness,
40:53 you should have professionalism
40:55 here.
40:57 - The intensity should be 100%.
40:59 - It's about how you recover.
41:01 What do you need in recovery?
41:03 And it won't happen
41:05 if there are 15 people.
41:07 15 people need different
41:09 ingredients to recover.
41:11 Professionalism comes there.
41:13 You have to learn it yourself.
41:15 Like when you go batting alone,
41:17 you have the ball in your hand.
41:19 You don't have to do that.
41:21 If you want to work on your skills,
41:23 you have to learn how to recover.
41:25 What all things you have to do.
41:27 You have to do ice bath,
41:29 you have to eat healthy carbs
41:31 to recover faster.
41:33 - Explain what healthy carbs are.
41:35 - Healthy carbs are,
41:37 last year,
41:39 white rice, mashed potatoes,
41:41 sweet potatoes,
41:43 and
41:45 this is very important,
41:47 electrolytes.
41:49 It's very important to take them during the games.
41:51 And your gels,
41:53 which give you instinct energy.
41:55 If you don't have that, dates, bananas,
41:57 these are the things that give you
41:59 instinct energy.
42:01 - Very good. Like you said,
42:03 David Warner lifts the team,
42:05 and you lift the whole team.
42:07 He said, "We lift them because
42:09 they are super fit."
42:11 And then you said carbs,
42:13 and recovery, and recovery,
42:15 and carbs,
42:17 I felt like you were talking about me.
42:19 Just like I uplift you before the show.
42:21 - Get a break.
42:23 (laughs)
42:25 - We're going to take a break.
42:27 We'll see you on the other side.
42:29 Don't go away. You're watching The Pavilion.
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42:33 Welcome back to The Pavilion.
42:35 I'm Fakhar Alam. You're watching A-Sports
42:37 and the ARY Zap app.
42:39 Tomorrow is a big day, but before that,
42:41 we're just generally talking about various
42:43 aspects of ODI cricket.
42:45 Before we go on break,
42:47 Wasim Akram and Shoaib Malik
42:49 were talking about my lifestyle
42:51 and fitness
42:53 with David Warner.
42:55 I'm honored. Thank you so much for all the kind words.
42:57 - You lost me, buddy.
42:59 - I know I lost you a long time ago.
43:01 - The amount of food you eat,
43:03 you shouldn't even let me rest at night.
43:05 You got me on your toes.
43:07 - True. That's what I like to do.
43:09 - I hope this conversation
43:11 doesn't get to Warner.
43:13 - I'll tag him and tweet it.
43:15 "David, Wasim says
43:17 I'm as good as you
43:19 in fitness."
43:21 - He's got a misunderstanding.
43:23 Instead of fitness,
43:25 he's reading the fit.
43:27 He's working on that.
43:29 - Now let's talk about the age group.
43:31 England, the defending champions,
43:33 they had a bad tournament.
43:35 In the end, they salvaged some
43:37 but it was too late for them.
43:39 That's primarily because they were the oldest
43:41 average team that was playing.
43:43 - The average age was 33.
43:45 - 33 years for them.
43:47 So, does age really matter
43:49 in ODI cricket now?
43:51 - At this, I think
43:55 30-33 is the peak of batters.
43:57 - We have to compare it.
43:59 So, the 2019 World Cup
44:01 that England won,
44:03 what was the average age of that team?
44:05 - If we compare it to 5 years ago,
44:07 it's 5 years back.
44:09 - It was 28 years back.
44:11 - I don't know age.
44:13 - I don't think so.
44:15 - You think it's Mazar with his random stats?
44:17 - Maybe.
44:19 - I think he wants to say
44:21 that there's a bit of young blood in the team.
44:23 - Like Harry Brook sitting in the matches.
44:25 - Youngsters create energy in the team.
44:27 That's the reality.
44:29 - So, basically
44:31 a blend of youth
44:33 and experience.
44:35 Ideally, that would be it for England.
44:37 - I think, Wasim bhai,
44:39 it's the quality of the player.
44:41 Simply. 33, 34.
44:43 - I agree.
44:45 - It's not the age that's affecting the team.
44:47 I think,
44:49 this is the best time to understand your game.
44:51 You get the experience
44:53 to play.
44:55 The performances sometimes come automatically.
44:57 You know all this.
44:59 This is just
45:01 one-off.
45:03 Out of form.
45:05 They couldn't deliver.
45:07 That's the reason.
45:09 Otherwise, if you look at the stats,
45:11 you'll see that in the leagues,
45:13 the team is doing well.
45:15 In T20,
45:17 the average age is 30 or more than 30.
45:19 So, it's a blend.
45:21 If Shubman Gill is young,
45:23 it's not his age, basically.
45:25 It's the quality
45:27 that's affecting his performance.
45:29 So, basically,
45:31 quality, skill, attitude, fitness,
45:33 that's what matters.
45:35 - Age is just a number for me.
45:37 If we go into the depth
45:39 of their performance,
45:41 they were expecting a lot
45:43 from David Milan and Joe Root.
45:45 They'll give them support.
45:47 One of them will play a big innings
45:49 in every match.
45:51 It's really depending on all-rounders
45:53 who play aggressive cricket.
45:55 So, those two elements
45:57 were the elements
45:59 that they struggled with
46:01 which led to such a performance.
46:03 They knew from the start
46:05 that if we get beaten,
46:07 we have a long batting lineup.
46:09 Like, Waseem Bhai always says
46:11 that Adil Rashid is 10th in the first class.
46:13 So, he comes in 10th.
46:15 - Every time.
46:17 Every time.
46:19 - When I was commenting
46:21 on my issue,
46:23 the guy who gave me the stat
46:25 said, "Wow, that's a good point
46:27 to discuss because one day
46:29 he's long. He'll come to talk
46:31 and you'll be able to send a random stat."
46:33 But he didn't dare score.
46:35 - He has a good technique.
46:37 - That's one thing.
46:39 - Mohit Bhai came from the top.
46:41 Well done, Mohit.
46:43 - Another thing, they were expecting
46:45 a lot from
46:47 Mohin Ali and Adil Rashid
46:49 that they'll get wickets in the middle overs.
46:51 They were depending on him
46:53 as much as they were depending on
46:55 David Milan and Joe Root.
46:57 They couldn't get that from them.
46:59 That's why they struggled.
47:01 I don't think it was because of age.
47:03 If it was about age, they'd have
47:05 played worse. They don't play worse
47:07 in batting and bowling.
47:09 - So, you're saying it's not about age.
47:11 - Not at all.
47:13 - Misbah, did you hear that?
47:15 I thought of taking my retirement back.
47:17 I said, "Misbah, do Bismillah."
47:19 - Is he making this up?
47:21 - Actually, I'm not making this up.
47:23 This is an actual conversation
47:25 between me and Misbah.
47:27 I challenge you. This was an actual conversation.
47:29 - He was kidding.
47:31 - But it was an actual conversation.
47:33 - You understand,
47:35 there's someone else here who can't speak
47:37 about this.
47:39 - Now I know why Misbah
47:41 is quiet all the time.
47:43 - So, for the viewers,
47:45 what we're saying is...
47:47 - So, he's quiet all the time?
47:49 - Yes, he's quiet all the time.
47:51 - He's quiet all the time.
47:53 - He's quiet all the time.
47:55 - Malik is saying, "He's quiet
47:57 all the time."
47:59 - Malik gave a good example.
48:01 - A guy goes to someone's house
48:03 for lunch.
48:05 After lunch, he comes back
48:07 and says, "There's nothing to eat."
48:09 The guy says,
48:11 "I'm fine. I've eaten everything."
48:13 "I'm feeling a little hungry."
48:15 "I'm feeling a little hungry."
48:17 "What's wrong?"
48:19 "I don't feel like eating anything."
48:21 "I don't feel like eating anything."
48:23 "I don't feel like eating anything."
48:25 "I'm feeling hungry."
48:27 "I'm feeling hungry."
48:29 - Please.
48:31 Now we know why we're
48:33 making fun of Anar.
48:35 - I swear, at times it feels like
48:37 you guys were in a 20-year-prison
48:39 and you didn't get to eat.
48:41 - This is how my friend eats.
48:43 - There's no samosa left.
48:45 - MashaAllah.
48:47 - He's wearing makeup.
48:49 - I was making him eat samosas.
48:51 - He ate 10 samosas.
48:53 - I ate both samosas and jalebis.
48:55 - You know, he's odd.
48:57 He makes a sandwich
48:59 out of samosas and jalebis.
49:01 - That's true.
49:03 - I love it.
49:05 - He takes a bite
49:07 and then takes a sip of tea.
49:09 - I have to wash it down, my friend.
49:11 - One second.
49:13 - It's not a human's job
49:15 to eat a lot and then sip tea.
49:17 - It's a donkey's job.
49:19 - Come here and look.
49:23 - I'm with him.
49:25 - I guess so.
49:27 - This is what happens
49:29 after 46 days together.
49:31 - I'm with you.
49:33 - No, you're not.
49:35 - I'm with you.
49:37 - I'm not with you.
49:39 - Next time, when you get samosas
49:43 and jalebis, don't touch them.
49:45 I'll eat them alone.
49:47 - You can eat them alone.
49:49 - That's why people say
49:57 that you should go on for a year.
49:59 That's why people say
50:01 that you should go on for a year.
50:03 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:05 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:07 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:09 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:11 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:13 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:15 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:17 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:19 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:21 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:23 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:25 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:27 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:29 - I'm not going on for a year.
50:31 - Angelo...
50:33 - Angelo Matthews.
50:37 - Timed out.
50:39 - First time in the history of cricket.
50:41 - That was something special.
50:43 - This is the first time in the history
50:45 of cricket in 48 years.
50:47 - And how did it happen?
50:49 - You think...
50:51 - Now that we look back on this World Cup
50:53 - and the way things have ended up
50:55 - you think it could have been any different?
50:57 - Would you like to see it any different?
50:59 - I forgot about it on a serious note.
51:01 - I really do. I don't even remember that happened.
51:03 - I mean, nowadays there's so much cricket going on.
51:05 - I know.
51:07 - We have to change the rules of the ICC.
51:09 - This is what really happened.
51:11 - I do remember now when she put it on television.
51:13 - We had a detailed discussion about it.
51:15 - I think we should change the rules.
51:17 - It's very important.
51:19 - No, if the batsman is late
51:21 - the team is late, the overheads are slow.
51:23 - But that's also a drama.
51:25 - There are a lot of...
51:27 - Not just this rule,
51:29 - there are a lot of other rules.
51:31 - Look at the referral.
51:33 - There's a rule for the umpire's call.
51:35 - We have to change that too.
51:37 - The water is coming.
51:39 - That's also important.
51:41 - Even if the ball has fallen
51:43 - and you've seen that
51:45 - you've pushed it with the bat
51:47 - and caught the fielder.
51:49 - Or even if you've picked up the ball
51:51 - and appealed to someone, you're out.
51:53 - Handling the ball, hitting the ball twice
51:55 - is out.
51:57 - We never thought that a batsman
51:59 - could be out like this.
52:01 - We knew it could happen, but we never...
52:03 - Remember in 1987
52:05 - when Courtenay was doing it with
52:07 - Qadir bhai.
52:09 - Qadir bhai ran away before he could bowl
52:11 - and he warned and went back.
52:13 - It was a good gesture.
52:15 - Gentlemen's gesture.
52:17 - There are four captains sitting here.
52:19 - We differ from each other.
52:21 - So if we bring clarity
52:23 - to the game, it's good.
52:25 - Because there are many captains
52:27 - and everyone has a different nature.
52:29 - So for them, it's like
52:31 - "No problem."
52:33 - If someone is too involved
52:35 - they say, "No, I can go to any extent
52:37 - to win a game."
52:39 - So the best way to go about it
52:41 - is to bring clarity
52:43 - in most of the things we've said.
52:45 - So you're talking about umpire's call as well?
52:47 - Yes, umpire's call as well.
52:49 - Exactly. If the ball is hitting the stumps
52:51 - either from here
52:53 - or here
52:55 - or there, there is no in-between.
52:57 - Correct.
52:59 - I wanted more clarity.
53:01 - Toss?
53:03 - Can't you show the coin?
53:05 - Oh, for God's sake, Mohit bhai!
53:07 - This clarity
53:09 - is a public demand.
53:11 - One more thing,
53:13 - if anyone wants to start a match
53:15 - we're here to talk about cricket
53:17 - and to tell you about the solutions
53:19 - that we think are right
53:21 - or wrong, whatever it is
53:23 - based on our experience.
53:25 - Who looks at these things?
53:27 - But public, mostly social media
53:29 - "Show the coin, end it."
53:31 - Everyone says, "Show the coin."
53:33 - "Show the head or tail."
53:35 - Let me summarize this.
53:37 - Basically,
53:39 - the winning team
53:41 - who has won the toss
53:43 - you're saying that they cheated
53:45 - because they weren't showing the coin.
53:47 - Basically, the opposing team
53:49 - is being dragged into this
53:51 - because they didn't get the captain.
53:53 - Everyone is cheating.
53:55 - Everyone's integrity
53:57 - is being challenged.
53:59 - It's unfortunate.
54:01 - This is just really...
54:03 - Because you're challenging the integrity of every team.
54:05 - I don't have time to even waste on this subject.
54:07 - You know what?
54:09 - I completely and absolutely agree with you.
54:11 - Therefore, I think we're going to take a break.
54:13 [MUSIC]
54:17 - Welcome back to The Pavilion.
54:19 - I'm Fakhr-e-Anam and you're watching
54:21 - AYZAP.
54:23 - We were just making our dinner plans.
54:25 - I do apologize for that.
54:27 - We were on air when you arrived.
54:29 - What were we talking about before the break?
54:31 - What time do we have to reach?
54:33 - No, we were talking about the break.
54:35 [LAUGHTER]
54:37 - We were talking about the umpire call.
54:39 - We were talking about the umpire call.
54:41 - And then, Rohin Khan brought up a subject
54:43 - that was really uncalled for.
54:45 - As you can see...
54:47 - Before the match,
54:49 - the ball you're going to be matched with
54:51 - you have to tear it up
54:53 - and check if there's anything in it.
54:55 [LAUGHTER]
54:57 - Look at today's players.
54:59 - If I'm the captain, I have my phone in my pocket
55:01 - I go to see the pitch and he's already taken a picture of it.
55:03 - Pet Cummings has already started.
55:05 - He's taking a picture of the pitch
55:07 - and he's saying, "Don't change it tomorrow."
55:09 - "It's not even a match."
55:11 [LAUGHTER]
55:13 - I didn't know that.
55:15 - Oh my goodness me, that's so funny.
55:17 - You should have put a mark on it.
55:19 - He was like, "Put a marker on it."
55:21 - "Don't change it."
55:23 - He was putting a marker on his bottle.
55:25 - In the early days,
55:27 - when we played cricket,
55:29 - there were a lot of matches in one ground.
55:31 - Two boys would go in the morning
55:33 - and ask for a pint of beer.
55:35 - Yes, we have to do that too.
55:37 - That's how it used to be.
55:39 - It is going to be a great final.
55:41 - Epic.
55:43 - Because you've got two very good teams in the final.
55:45 - It's going to be,
55:47 - I think,
55:49 - it'll be a match to be remembered for the ages.
55:51 - Two best teams have qualified.
55:53 - Simple.
55:55 - Do you think any team crashed out, unfortunately?
55:57 - Crashed out?
55:59 - I mean,
56:01 - it could have happened.
56:03 - I think South Africa fought really well.
56:05 - They fought in the semi-final as well.
56:07 - Unlucky.
56:09 - But I think the other teams
56:11 - have reached the final.
56:13 - And let me ask this to all of you.
56:15 - Will Williamson carry on
56:17 - or this was it?
56:19 - This was his final World Cup appearance.
56:21 - Maybe one day for the World Cup.
56:23 - I doubt he'll play all four years.
56:25 - He said what our cricketers
56:27 - used to say in the county.
56:29 - Please.
56:31 - I made this line.
56:33 - He said,
56:35 - British players
56:37 - used to say,
56:39 - "We used to get up,
56:41 - and one day they said, "I opened up a window,
56:43 - opened up a curtain, I saw the sun,
56:45 - and I thought, that's it.
56:47 - I'm done.
56:49 - I'm done with my job. I'm retiring."
56:51 - It doesn't happen here.
56:53 - They kick you out.
56:55 - They kick you out.
56:57 - They say, "Don't you dare touch the curtains."
56:59 - "Don't you dare try to open the curtains."
57:01 - But they wake up in the morning and say,
57:03 - "I think that's it.
57:05 - I'm done."
57:07 - Then they close the curtains.
57:09 - Then they open in the afternoon.
57:11 - "No, no, I'm back."
57:13 - Yeah, that's you basically.
57:15 - That's you.
57:17 - Tell me once,
57:19 - that I've retired.
57:21 - Are you kidding?
57:23 - Why are you getting serious?
57:25 - I'm not kidding.
57:27 - I'm not giving you another chance.
57:29 - You stay, you'll get a chance.
57:31 - Don't bring me in this.
57:33 - You're a cheater.
57:35 - That's nice of you.
57:37 - Anyway, we're gonna,
57:39 - I think,
57:41 - I'll wrap this up, because we've got to get to dinner,
57:43 - and I'm hungry.
57:45 - The samosas and the jalebi's have kind of disappeared.
57:47 - We've got a big game for you tomorrow.
57:49 - We'll bring it on your screen.
57:51 - It is Australia vs India.
57:53 - The big final,
57:55 - 19th November, which is tomorrow,
57:57 - in Ahmedabad,
57:59 - at the Modi Stadium, 1.30pm.
58:01 - Tomorrow morning, we'll be back
58:03 - at your service,
58:05 - at 11.30pm.
58:07 - 11.30am,
58:09 - we will be here, with an in-depth
58:11 - look at the match. That'll be the pre-match,
58:13 - and then of course, we will be with you
58:15 - at the end of the day.
58:17 - It is our last day tomorrow,
58:19 - so please do join us,
58:21 - because it's going to be an important day,
58:23 - not just for the cricketing world, but also for the pavilion.
58:25 - And with that, gentlemen, I think,
58:27 - let's call it a night. Let's go and
58:29 - prepare ourselves for the final.
58:31 - Yes.
58:33 - With a lot of food.
58:35 - Absolutely. I never say no to food, man.
58:37 - Shoaib Malik, thank you very much, like always.
58:39 - Mohin Khan, outstanding. Thank you very much.
58:41 - Miss Wahul Haq, fantastic.
58:43 - Thank you very much.
58:45 - And Waseem Akram, all I can say is that
58:47 - chich kuch chich gaderiyan,
58:49 - do teriyan, do meriyan.
58:51 - You're saying it as if you're going to leave.
58:53 - You're not going to leave tomorrow.
58:55 - Tomorrow is a proper day.
58:57 - I'm going to warm up today.
58:59 - And that was Miss Wahul Haq interrupting my ending.
59:01 - Ladies and gentlemen, good night.
59:03 [Music]
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