Israel-Hamas clashes intensify as war enters 6th day | The Final Word
How will the raging war between Israel and Hamas affect Asia and the rest of the world?
We get the thoughts of Global Political Analyst Michael Bociurkiw joining us from Odesa, Ukraine.
Visit our website for more #NewsYouCanTrust: https://www.cnnphilippines.com/
Follow our social media pages:
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CNNPhilippines
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cnnphilippines/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/cnnphilippines
We get the thoughts of Global Political Analyst Michael Bociurkiw joining us from Odesa, Ukraine.
Visit our website for more #NewsYouCanTrust: https://www.cnnphilippines.com/
Follow our social media pages:
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CNNPhilippines
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cnnphilippines/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/cnnphilippines
Category
🗞
NewsTranscript
00:00 How will the raging war between Israel and Hamas affect Asia and the rest of the world?
00:04 We get the thoughts now of global political analyst Michael Borczykiew joining us from
00:08 Odessa, Ukraine.
00:10 Michael, great to have you with us.
00:11 Indeed, a very sad development taking place in the Middle East.
00:15 Thousands of people are dying, Israelis, Palestinians, even Filipinos.
00:22 The problems between both sides are very, very deep.
00:25 Nevertheless, in your opinion, could there be a potential ceasefire soon?
00:30 Magandang Gabi, Rico.
00:33 Thanks for having me.
00:35 First of all, thoughts and prayers with the Filipinos who have lost loved ones in this
00:39 conflict or who have lost loved ones stuck in Gaza.
00:43 Rico, it goes to show the bravery Filipinos have propping up economies around the world
00:49 going to take risks.
00:51 So my heart goes out to them and to all Filipinos.
00:54 Look, as you know, this is a long simmering conflict.
00:57 It is not going to come to an end overnight.
01:00 I think what will have to happen for things to come to some sort of resolution is involvement
01:08 to the international community.
01:09 Of course, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken will be meeting with the Palestinian
01:19 side.
01:20 But I have to say this is that look, I've I've worked in that region for UNICEF.
01:27 I've been in the West Bank.
01:28 I used to know Gaza like the back of my hand.
01:32 And my thinking right now about what's happening in Gaza.
01:35 Yeah, it's pretty much unsustainable because of the lack of our water.
01:39 They're now talking about hospitals becoming more because they won't be able to help people.
01:44 Having said that, having said that, what happened on the Israeli side is absolutely horrible.
01:50 This is the absolute depths of inhumanity to fellow man.
01:55 I think what you're going to see, the Israelis have no choices to do a land invasion of Gaza
02:02 to help these terrorists.
02:05 It will not be easy to watch, but I understand why Israel has to take that action.
02:09 So how soon, though, can we see a negotiated ceasefire?
02:14 You mentioned that we have to see the involvement of a third party.
02:20 Will the will Hamas and will the Palestinians listen to Israeli and American negotiators?
02:27 Should there be another fourth or fifth party that will bring and unite all of these conflicting
02:35 sides to the table so we could see the fighting stop and the and less innocent people dying?
02:45 Well, sure, that's the problem right now.
02:48 You see, in the West Bank, where the Palestinian Authority has control, they're just limited
02:56 to the West Bank.
02:57 And then you have Hamas in control of Gaza.
03:00 Hamas is a proxy of the Iranians.
03:03 They're not to be trusted in terms of negotiations.
03:07 So that's part of the difficulty here.
03:09 I would like to see the day where actually these terrorists are completely flushed out
03:14 of Gaza and that civilians there have an opportunity to elect their own leaders who play by the
03:22 rules of the international community, who have compassion and who are credible partners
03:26 to be negotiated with.
03:28 But we see a long way away from there.
03:30 So, Rico, I think we're going to perhaps be looking at Saudi Arabia, Egypt, players like
03:37 that who have quite a bit of diplomatic act to take part in these talks.
03:41 But I don't think much will happen until this military operation is finished in Gaza.
03:48 It looks like it looks like it's going to take a long time.
03:52 We're talking about house to house combat, that sort of thing.
03:56 Yes, a very dense, one of the most densely populated places on the planet.
04:00 It's very difficult to do any sort of operation.
04:02 Well, let's hope and pray that the Egyptians and the Saudi Arabians, as you say, who could
04:08 be part of this negotiated ceasefire, will come into the picture sooner rather than later.
04:13 So I mean, so many innocent people are dying right now, more than 2000.
04:19 And of course, here in Asia, we are thousands of miles away.
04:24 What are the possibilities, Michael, that this conflict could indirectly spill over
04:30 into the region?
04:32 Well, look, as we now know from the Ukraine conflict, where, for example, there are Russians
04:39 weaponizing food that has had reverberations right around the world, including the Philippines,
04:44 in terms of higher bread prices, things like that.
04:47 No conflict these days because we're such an interconnected world.
04:52 And even COVID, remember how we saw how interconnected we are, happens in isolation.
04:57 You know, it's sad because right now it's so difficult to be optimistic about anything
05:04 because, for example, in the case of looking at the broader picture, we have four antagonist
05:11 states right now who don't respect the rules of the international community.
05:15 China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, who have access to nuclear weapons and who are acting
05:22 more in concert.
05:23 And then the other thing that we're seeing is that the way these two wars are connected
05:27 in Israel and in Ukraine is they're both involving state sponsored terrorism in terms of Russia
05:33 directly in Ukraine.
05:34 But in terms of Israel, Iran working for Hamas.
05:38 So that's why I'm saying it's going to be very difficult.
05:41 But in terms of Asia, I can tell you that the Chinese, Taiwan are probably very much
05:47 looking at the U.S. response, how robust it's going to be, because at the moment they're
05:52 handling two big theaters, Israel, Gaza, and also here in Ukraine.
05:57 In addition to that, there's a lack of ammunition worldwide.
06:02 In addition to that, funding is tied up in the U.S. Congress.
06:07 It seems like there's a lot of dysfunction happening in the world's greatest superpower
06:11 of the United States in Washington.
06:13 And that is not a good signal for our adversaries.
06:16 All right.
06:17 We'll have to wait and see how this all plays out.
06:19 Indeed, the very complex conflict that's taking place right now in the Middle East.
06:25 Global political analyst Michael Borsik, joining us from Odessa, Ukraine.
06:28 Thank you so much for your insights.