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Inside story of ECP's letter to KP Caretaker Govt - Ghumman's analysis
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00:00 [Music]
00:13 Salam, dear viewers, I am Khawar Guman and Chaudhary Ghulam Shahan.
00:17 Viewers, today you saw that the government increased the prices of petrol.
00:22 The price of petrol is now Rs. 20 per litre. This will be a huge burden on the people.
00:32 As you can see, the petrol bomb is a big injustice on the people.
00:37 When the prices of petrol and diesel increase, it directly impacts all other goods.
00:46 Transportation, food, and other daily necessities are also affected.
00:52 Then automatically the prices of food and other daily necessities increase.
01:00 It is an injustice.
01:01 Along with that, we are seeing different stories coming up day and night.
01:07 Especially the stories of the people of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
01:10 There is an injustice on them as well. Chaudhary Ghulam Shahan is telling you different stories on a daily basis.
01:17 Some of them are part of the record, some are not. This is also an injustice.
01:22 But, dear viewers, we have repeatedly pointed out an injustice in our program.
01:31 That is the injustice with the Pakistan Mirror.
01:34 The constitution of any democratic country is a living organism.
01:43 It breathes.
01:44 We call it a sacred document because it regulates our lives.
01:53 In a civil society, people are in contact with each other.
02:04 Civil judges have a big office in front of them.
02:07 For example, the former Prime Minister, PTI Chairman, Zona, has a big office in front of him.
02:13 On one side, there is a big political party leader.
02:16 But, he is accused of something.
02:18 He has to be in front of the courts to answer his accusations.
02:25 The constitution of the country is the Pakistan Mirror.
02:30 If the mirror starts to be deviated from Pakistan, then this sacred document is an injustice.
02:42 This injustice is a basic injustice.
02:48 In Pakistan, the same thing happened during the time of General Zia.
02:50 General Musharraf used the constitution as a mother's nose.
02:56 But, he still took care of it.
02:59 But, dear viewers, the present-day PDM communities have played with this constitution.
03:08 The example of what we are seeing in front of our eyes is not found in any history of Pakistan's political, judicial and social society.
03:21 The constitution has been thrown into the trash bin.
03:24 The biggest court in Pakistan has thrown one or two of its rulings into the trash bin.
03:35 And, they say that it is their will whether they accept this law or not.
03:39 So, dear viewers, the current government is being unjustly treated by the public in the form of inflation.
03:51 The police and other forces are being used to commit atrocities.
03:56 But, the biggest injustice is being done with this book.
03:59 Let me give you some examples of this.
04:02 Yesterday, on 31st August, Pakistan Election Commission wrote a letter to the KPK's Chief of Police, Omar Ameed.
04:21 And, what does he say in the letter? The letter is in English, but we will translate it for you.
04:33 As you know, this letter starts with,
04:37 "As you know, under Article 218(3) of the Constitution, it is the responsibility of the Election Commission to hold free, fair, transparent and non-biased elections.
04:48 In this regard, the government must play a key role in supporting the Election Commission
04:53 so that all stakeholders, i.e. the elected representatives of various political parties,
04:58 can be assured of a level playing field for the candidates.
05:02 And, the candidates can express their abilities in front of the voters without any fear, support, help or obstacle.
05:10 The government, including the Cabinet, the Chief of Police, the Election Commission, the Special Envoy and other relevant officials,
05:16 can only provide a purposeful environment if they do not involve themselves in political and electoral campaigns,
05:26 which is against the Election Act, Section 230, Section 1D and 2G.
05:33 But, unfortunately, the media and other sources have reported that some ministers, officials and special envoys have been included in the current Cabinet on the basis of political affiliation.
05:44 The statement of the former Minister Shahid Khattak in the Cabinet is the clearest example of this,
05:52 which was seen in the media and is clearly a political conspiracy.
05:57 Some other ministers were also found to be affiliated with their party, while Khattak was dismissed from his ministry for taking election action.
06:10 Some ministers, officials, special envoys and other relevant officials' attitude towards the Cabinet is completely contrary to the spirit of the Pakistan Act and the Election Act 2017.
06:20 In light of these circumstances, the Election Commission requests that the Cabinet's members be minimized,
06:28 and that the Cabinet be reviewed in light of the procedures outlined in the relevant articles of the Election Law,
06:36 and that such ministers, officials, special envoys, who are involved in politics, be dismissed immediately,
06:42 so that the future can be assured of free, fair and transparent elections.
06:48 I hope that you will give priority to this matter, Umar Ameed, Secretary-Election Commission.
06:54 Viewers, as I said in Pakistan, sorry, Mr. Chaudhary, I am taking a little more time,
06:59 when did the atrocities began with the Ayin?
07:01 You must remember, viewers, on 14 January, the Chief Minister of Punjab, Chaudhary Parvez Lai, sent a summary to the Governor,
07:12 and within 48 hours, the summary was completed.
07:18 The 90-day period in which the elections should have been held in Punjab, was completed on 14 April.
07:25 Today, on 1 August, even after 90 days, it has been 110 days.
07:32 The fundamental right of the 12-13 crore people of Punjab, the Ayin that is provided by the vote, is deprived of them, and it is deprived of them for 110 days.
07:42 Similarly, viewers, the summary of the KP Assembly has been completed on 196 days.
07:48 The KP Assembly was summarized on 18 January.
07:51 The 90-day period was completed on 18 April.
07:54 Today, on 1 August, even after 90 days, it has been 106 days.
07:59 Mr. Shoaib Shaheen, who is a senior lawyer with us, is a Supreme Court lawyer, we invited him.
08:04 Thank you very much for giving us your time.
08:06 Sir, I am sorry, I took a little more time.
08:09 What I have said, the political parties make statements nowadays,
08:13 what we have said in the beginning,
08:16 has this happened before in the history of Pakistan with this Ayin, the atrocities?
08:21 Look, it has happened in the past as well, but I will come to your first election point.
08:27 What they say is that the Election Commission has awakened, this is a big thing.
08:30 They say, "Whoever dies for simplicity, God, they fight and do not even have a sword in their hands."
08:35 Today, they remembered that the political people are sitting.
08:38 So, the spectacle that the apparently non-political people are doing in Punjab,
08:43 the way the bedsheets are being torn, the way people's homes are being bombed,
08:48 the way the PTI workers are being cracked down, the attempt to crush is being made,
08:52 the homes are being demolished, businesses are being shut down,
08:57 someone's petrol pump is shut down, someone's relative is being kidnapped,
09:00 someone's brother, someone's father.
09:02 There is no limit to this, I will give you a small example,
09:05 Hammad Azhar says, "Because we did not get him, we kidnapped his father."
09:09 Twenty years ago, over fifty years ago, twenty years ago, the politicians left.
09:12 Look, Mohsin Najmi is our chief minister there, the old one.
09:15 I mean, the non-politicians, according to them, those non-politicians who are doing something,
09:20 the politicians who are doing this, what they are doing is in front of them.
09:24 The parliament is also present, legislation is also being made,
09:27 there is a lot of work being done on a daily basis, we are seeing that the law is being passed,
09:31 Senate, National Assembly, everything is going on. Let's add Mr. Chaudhary too.
09:34 Mr. Chaudhary, I apologize for taking a little more time.
09:37 Now, your respected Chief Minister Mohsin Naqvi is also in Lahore,
09:41 in KPK, that is Azam Khan.
09:43 Now, what is being made, what is being said, people are saying,
09:48 I am telling you about the city government, they are saying that,
09:51 "Oh Lord, Punjab is also going on, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is also going on,
09:56 so in the same way, after 12-13 August, if the present parliament will be finished,
10:00 it will happen, if we should not use the word,
10:03 so after the National Assembly, this will also continue,
10:07 Wafaaq will also continue, so what is your problem?
10:09 An example has been made, we will follow it, a person will sit on his own,
10:13 whether he is a politician or a non-politician, you will not have any objection?
10:16 Respected, what nonsense are you talking?
10:20 This, Mohsin Naqvi, who is the supervisory government of Punjab,
10:24 he has issued a circular, that you have to hold seminars of people of Muslim League N,
10:30 in colleges, schools and universities, and he did it.
10:34 After that, about 10,000 people in Punjab, he arrested them, police.
10:39 The reason is that he has put his people in the hands of the administration and police,
10:46 civil servants and police force, and through them,
10:52 he has made such a policy and has given such a tradition of oppression and injustice,
10:58 that Allah's protection, he is not doing anything with Pakistan.
11:03 And now he is putting his people in the hands of the administration,
11:09 that we have crushed your opponents, we should make a new Prime Minister there.
11:12 And one more thing, if you are not surprised that no Mohsin's name comes up,
11:18 and secondly, here, you should not even be grateful, but what can you do?
11:26 Yes, number two, you note, and Shaheen Sahib, may Allah give you courage,
11:32 you are very brave, daring, and according to the law,
11:37 in the courts, for the rights of the people, for political freedoms,
11:41 for the democratic environment, and for the freedom of the media,
11:46 you are fighting, and thousands of lawyers like you,
11:49 the lawyers have made us proud, but even today, the journalist is missing,
11:55 there are attacks on some people, we have been threatened,
11:59 this is a letter issued by a woman from Noon League,
12:04 in which she has put our pictures, and said that someone has been martyred,
12:08 now it is their turn, but no one is going to ask,
12:12 I am just asking that if elections are to be held in Pakistan according to the law,
12:19 and then these best, and most powerful governments have been established,
12:25 and the preparation is being done for this in the Central Government,
12:27 then which election, and which law will come?
12:30 So the question that Shoaib Sahib is asking,
12:33 now the election, Article 224 is very clear,
12:37 that a minister has to be elected, within 60 days or 90 days,
12:43 on one hand, the government says that all the powers to hold elections,
12:47 which is very clear in the constitution,
12:49 they have also made the latest amendments,
12:51 the election commission has the date, which they will give.
12:54 On the other hand, sometimes they are talking about 60 days,
12:57 sometimes 90 days, sometimes 6-8 weeks,
12:59 and there is no difference in increasing it,
13:02 so what will happen now,
13:04 what do you think, being a senior lawyer, constitutional expert?
13:08 Look, there are two unconstitutional governments already sitting in front of you,
13:11 in Punjab and KP, after 90 days they are unconstitutional,
13:15 they have no work, they are illegal, unconstitutional,
13:17 the courts are silent on that.
13:19 So what they have done today, by increasing petrol by Rs 20,
13:22 they have made us a beneficiary of Rs 5,
13:24 they have increased it by Rs 19.95,
13:27 this is not their intention to hold elections,
13:30 I am convinced of this now,
13:32 otherwise you would have had an expiry of the term,
13:34 and you would have held elections in 60 days,
13:36 now dissolving it 3 days before is also dishonest,
13:39 so that you get 90 days,
13:41 and they don't want to hold elections even in 90 days,
13:43 so tell me, when they don't hold elections in 90 days,
13:45 their own words,
13:47 that the constitution says to hold elections in 90 days,
13:50 or whatever 60 days is,
13:52 but if they don't hold it after that,
13:54 then there is no difference, they can hold it whenever they want,
13:56 your king Riaz, the opposition leader says,
13:58 if they don't hold it for 10 years, then there is no discrimination,
14:00 so if you, the spirit of the constitution says,
14:02 that whatever is the matter of the country,
14:04 you have to get it done through the elected representatives,
14:07 if you don't do it through the elected representatives,
14:09 then it is a matter of all-time,
14:11 so what effect will it have?
14:13 The next question is, the government says,
14:15 that whatever objection is raised,
14:17 we go to the courts,
14:19 you have petitions,
14:21 the PTA has petitions in the Supreme Court,
14:23 we go there and give answers,
14:25 we give arguments,
14:27 that these are our arguments,
14:29 because of which we delayed in KP,
14:31 because of which we delayed in Punjab,
14:33 if needed, we will delay here also,
14:35 so this poor constitution,
14:37 who will get it implemented,
14:39 we don't have that much authority,
14:41 the courts and the institutions have to get it done,
14:43 the courts gave a decision on 1st March,
14:45 that within 90 days, the elections will be held,
14:47 the date of 10th April,
14:49 that decision is still in the field,
14:51 but it has been blown up,
14:53 it is pending like papers,
14:55 I have said this to the Supreme Court,
14:57 in one forum, people are looking at you,
14:59 if you don't stand with them today,
15:01 because you have sworn to protect the rights of the people,
15:03 I have said these words,
15:05 you have to protect,
15:07 you are the only institution,
15:09 otherwise this chaos,
15:11 this chaos and frustration,
15:13 will get another direction,
15:15 and if we have,
15:17 for the rule of law,
15:19 and for the violation of the law,
15:21 if the courts and the lawyers don't work on it,
15:23 then no segment of the society will be able to stand,
15:25 I say this,
15:27 that the Supreme Court has decided,
15:29 that whoever has not acted today,
15:31 there should be action against them,
15:33 if the Supreme Court steps back,
15:35 and doesn't take action,
15:37 then tomorrow, the question will arise,
15:39 the historian will definitely write in history,
15:41 that okay, Umar Ta Bandiyal sir,
15:43 this credit goes to him,
15:45 despite all the pressures,
15:47 he has decided according to the law,
15:49 but his action and remedy is also your responsibility,
15:51 and if he could not act,
15:53 then tell me, how will he act on a common man?
15:55 Yes, Jai sir, you are going to question?
15:57 No,
15:59 the action and remedy was to be done,
16:01 why did you let this situation come?
16:03 You saw that once,
16:05 when Naseem Hussain Shah,
16:07 broke the government of Balakshetan Mazari,
16:09 there was no written order,
16:11 only verbal order,
16:13 then from the back door of the PM House,
16:15 he was staying in Sindh House,
16:17 so he picked up the basket and left,
16:19 this is not a situation,
16:21 and with full determination,
16:23 he said,
16:25 we don't want to act,
16:27 repeatedly the ministers,
16:29 the Prime Minister,
16:31 and the people,
16:33 and the small people,
16:35 have kept their beards,
16:37 they have made verbal announcements,
16:39 but you Mr. Shaheen,
16:41 Mr. Shaheen,
16:43 note one thing,
16:45 if there is no argument,
16:47 if there is no action,
16:49 on the law and the constitution,
16:51 if you and I,
16:53 do not stand in front of the law,
16:55 and do not answer,
16:57 to our actions,
16:59 then there is no law of the jungle,
17:01 that in the sea,
17:03 in the sea,
17:05 the society has to live,
17:07 what will you do of the 50 crore people?
17:09 Look Mr. Chaudhary,
17:11 you have said a good thing,
17:13 even today I think,
17:15 the crime has not ended,
17:17 those who broke the constitution,
17:19 those who violated the judgment of the Supreme Court,
17:21 they are the criminals,
17:23 they have committed a contempt of court,
17:25 even today action can be taken against them,
17:27 they should be punished,
17:29 they should be sent to jail,
17:31 you should set a precedent,
17:33 if you do not set a precedent today,
17:35 tomorrow you will give a judgment against a weak person,
17:37 he will say that if there is a separate law for the powerful,
17:39 and a separate law for the weak,
17:41 look I think,
17:43 even today if we do not act on the law and the constitution,
17:47 then it will be a crime to weaken the foundations of the country,
17:51 God forbid,
17:53 today your terrorism is spreading all over Pakistan,
17:56 today people have become socially dependent on poverty,
18:00 street crime,
18:02 and crime has increased so much,
18:04 that people are killing each other to snatch food from each other,
18:07 and in this situation, if we...
18:09 But Mr. Shahid, the most important thing is that,
18:11 what the constitution says,
18:13 the law says,
18:15 elections should be held,
18:17 you see in the coming days,
18:19 what the Supreme Court gives a judgment on its rules,
18:21 and along with that,
18:23 obviously elections will be held,
18:25 on the night between 12 and 13,
18:27 the current parliament,
18:29 the National Assembly will be over,
18:31 the caretakers will come,
18:33 we will talk more about this,
18:35 viewers, after the break.
18:37 Welcome back,
18:41 viewers, all the leaders of the PDM,
18:43 the people sitting in the government,
18:45 listen to their statements,
18:47 when and how will elections be held,
18:49 who will be the minister,
18:51 what is the role of the election commission,
18:53 what is the role of the election commission,
18:55 it is a group of contradictions,
18:57 self-contradictory statements,
18:59 someone is saying one thing,
19:01 someone is saying another,
19:03 the icing on the cake is,
19:05 the contradiction is that,
19:07 the election commission,
19:09 after writing this letter,
19:11 has made their statements even more unmasked,
19:13 and what is the election commission doing?
19:15 Yesterday, a letter was written,
19:17 especially from the Secretary of the Election Commission,
19:19 to the KPK,
19:21 and he is telling you again,
19:23 that what questions
19:25 the election commission
19:27 has raised for them.
19:29 First of all, the election commission says,
19:31 that the government
19:33 has to play a special role
19:35 in supporting the election commission,
19:37 so that all stakeholders,
19:39 that is, the candidates of the various political parties,
19:41 can be assured
19:43 of the prosperity
19:45 of a level playing field,
19:47 and the candidates
19:49 without any fear,
19:51 or support,
19:53 or any help or obstruction,
19:55 can express their abilities
19:57 to the voters.
19:59 The cabinet, including the cabinet members,
20:01 the special counsel,
20:03 and other relevant officials
20:05 can only provide an environment
20:07 with a purpose,
20:09 if they do not involve themselves
20:11 in political and criminal matters,
20:13 which is contrary to
20:15 the section 230 of the Election Act
20:17 and section 2G.
20:19 The next important point
20:21 that has been raised in this letter
20:23 is that in light of these circumstances,
20:25 the election commission
20:27 requests you, the Chief Minister of the KPK,
20:29 that the number of members of the
20:31 monitoring cabinet should be as low as possible,
20:33 and in light of the procedures
20:35 mentioned in the relevant sections
20:37 of the election laws,
20:39 the monitoring cabinet should review
20:41 the statements of the members.
20:43 And such ministers,
20:45 who are involved in politics,
20:47 should be dismissed immediately,
20:49 so that in the future,
20:51 free, fair and transparent elections
20:53 can be held.
20:55 Now, viewers, what questions are arising on this?
20:57 The questions are arising that
20:59 if the election commission has this power,
21:01 then why is the election commission
21:03 not being allowed to use this power?
21:05 The Prime Minister himself
21:07 is agreeing that
21:09 yes, this is the power of the election commission.
21:11 Listen.
21:13 Election
21:15 Election
21:17 will be held on time, that is, in November.
21:19 This is the responsibility of the election commission.
21:21 They have to make it happen
21:23 whether it is within 24 days
21:25 or within 90 days.
21:27 The election commission,
21:29 on my behalf,
21:31 on time, the election commission
21:33 will be capable of
21:35 announcing the system of elections.
21:37 Viewers,
21:39 this is not just Shahbaz Sharif
21:41 who is not saying this.
21:43 All his government ministers
21:45 have repeated this
21:47 at different times.
21:49 Announcing the election,
21:51 holding it,
21:53 is the job of the election commission and Pakistan.
21:55 They will make it happen according to the law.
21:57 This decision has to be made by the election commission
21:59 as to how and at what time
22:01 and in what circumstances
22:03 elections should be held in the country.
22:05 This is the mandate of the election commission.
22:07 Look, the final decision
22:09 is not the government's
22:11 decision to hold elections or not.
22:13 This decision has to be made by the election commission.
22:15 Viewers, the question arises
22:17 that the question
22:19 that has now risen as a big question
22:21 from the election commission
22:23 that the government
22:25 that is being supervised,
22:27 it is very important to be non-partisan.
22:29 It is also very important to be non-political.
22:31 So, now I feel very strange
22:33 while asking this question
22:35 that how can a politician
22:37 be non-political?
22:39 But, in this regard,
22:41 the government of the PDM
22:43 has raised the question.
22:45 And Mr. Prime Minister says
22:47 that there is no discrimination.
22:49 I think he should read the article 224 of the constitution.
22:51 Let's listen to what he is saying.
22:53 There are examples in the past.
22:55 There were technocrats and semi-politicians.
22:57 So,
22:59 the constitution
23:01 does not put any kind of discrimination.
23:05 Viewers, the question arises
23:07 that according to Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
23:09 no one violates the constitution.
23:11 The election commission says
23:13 that a political activist
23:15 or someone's supporter
23:17 of a political party
23:19 cannot sit under the supervision of the government.
23:21 Now, this is the issue.
23:23 This has to be solved.
23:25 Now, the examples Mr. Shahbaz Sharif gave in the past
23:27 have a big difference.
23:29 One difference is
23:31 that in the past,
23:33 the people who became
23:35 the Prime Minister in the early 90s,
23:37 who raised the flag of the PM,
23:39 including Ghulam Mustafa Jitoy,
23:41 he became the PM in 1990,
23:43 Balaksher Mazari,
23:45 he became the PM in 1993,
23:47 then Moeen E Qureshi,
23:49 a technocrat,
23:51 he became the PM in 1993,
23:53 Maharaj Khalid,
23:55 he became the PM in 1993,
23:57 he is also an old politician,
23:59 he was also made the PM in 1993,
24:01 he is also the chairman of the senate,
24:03 he also became the PM.
24:05 But when the 18th amendment was passed,
24:07 he was a politician,
24:09 Moeen E Qureshi was a technocrat,
24:11 but after the 18th amendment,
24:13 in Article 9, Article 224,
24:15 it was written that a non-separate person
24:17 has to become the PM.
24:19 So, before this,
24:21 in 2013,
24:23 Mir Hazar Khan Khosrow,
24:25 who is the ex-chief justice,
24:27 became the PM.
24:29 After that, in 2018,
24:31 Justice Retired Nasirul Mulk
24:33 was given this post,
24:35 and he was elected.
24:37 So, the question is,
24:39 why are the current government people
24:41 stuck on this?
24:43 Why are they stuck on the fact
24:45 that a politician should be the PM?
24:47 Khawaja Asad, what do you have to say?
24:49 Well,
24:51 a politician should be the one
24:53 who has no affiliation,
24:55 who has no desire
24:57 to take part in politics.
24:59 He should be the one
25:01 who has no affiliation.
25:03 Bureaucracy and judges,
25:05 all of them,
25:07 have spent their lives,
25:09 their careers,
25:11 good and bad,
25:13 good and bad,
25:15 they are all in the same bag.
25:17 Did Mr. Qari express any such thoughts?
25:19 Whether the PM is the PM of Pakistan,
25:21 or a minister,
25:23 or a minister,
25:25 these are all political offices,
25:27 purely political offices.
25:29 Even if they are for the government,
25:31 political people should come to them.
25:33 This will be the basis of the respect
25:35 and respect of these offices.
25:37 Now, Rana Tanveer,
25:39 the big leader of Pakistan Muslim League,
25:41 he seems to be very scared.
25:43 The fear that he has,
25:45 he has expressed it,
25:47 he said that if no politician comes,
25:49 then there will be no elections.
25:51 He says, if a politician becomes the PM,
25:53 then there will be elections on time,
25:55 otherwise, there is a possibility of delay.
25:57 Now, he is also very scared.
25:59 In an interview,
26:01 Mr. Shabaz Sharif,
26:03 praised a non-partisan
26:05 PM.
26:07 Please see that too.
26:09 Non-partisanship,
26:11 its number one,
26:13 it should have an order of priority,
26:15 so that,
26:17 in the elections,
26:19 no one can raise a finger.
26:21 And when the elections are held on time,
26:23 the election commission
26:25 can raise a finger,
26:27 then the government can take a mandate.
26:29 There is no inferiority in the constitution.
26:31 Being a non-partisan should be
26:33 a top priority for the PM.
26:35 After that,
26:37 the politicians,
26:39 even in political parties,
26:41 there are some non-partisans,
26:43 Mr. Qahri has said.
26:45 There is a name in every Jamaat,
26:47 who, if he is trusted and
26:49 given responsibility,
26:51 then he will not listen to his own Jamaat,
26:53 and will follow the principles.
26:55 Such people are present.
26:57 Viewers, Mr. Rana Sinhaullah,
26:59 our respected PM,
27:01 that non-partisan,
27:03 according to the definition of a politician,
27:05 it is seen that these people are those,
27:07 who can be non-partisan
27:09 even while being a politician.
27:11 Tell us, who are those people?
27:13 This is happening.
27:15 My Jamaat is not doing this,
27:17 everyone is doing this.
27:19 A politician should be a caretaker.
27:21 He should not be a technocrat,
27:23 a retired judge,
27:25 a retired bureaucrat,
27:27 or any such person.
27:29 If he is not a politician,
27:31 then this is a suggestion.
27:33 If this suggestion is to be put forward,
27:35 and a politician should be a caretaker,
27:37 then there will be a name like this.
27:39 If there is a PM,
27:41 then there can be a name of Mr. Dar.
27:43 If there is a people's party,
27:45 then there can be a name of Mr. Raza Rabhani.
27:47 Similarly, there can be a name in JJUI.
27:49 Viewers,
27:53 Mr. Rana Tanveer says that
27:55 if a politician does not become a caretaker,
27:57 then he will not be on time for the elections.
27:59 Ayaz Amir, sorry,
28:01 Ayaz Amir is my old friend,
28:03 Ayaz Sadiq is saying that
28:05 what is the job of a caretaker?
28:07 He does not have to conduct elections.
28:09 Elections are the job of the Election Commission.
28:11 Listen to this.
28:13 No PM or Federal Cabinet
28:15 can control the election.
28:17 It is the Election Commission of Pakistan
28:19 which works independently.
28:21 No PM can control the presiding officer,
28:23 or the returning officer.
28:25 Then Mr. Dar can become a caretaker.
28:27 Anyone can become a caretaker.
28:29 So, Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam,
28:31 I am sorry, I am not able to understand.
28:33 Please explain to the elders,
28:35 who have seen the Sharif family closely,
28:37 their politics.
28:39 They have put us in the middle of a mess.
28:41 I am taking this from you.
28:43 This is a strange conversation.
28:45 They have put us in a strange mess.
28:47 What are you trying to say?
28:49 Please explain to the people.
28:51 People want to understand.
28:53 You have a common sense.
28:55 In your speeches,
28:57 you give some examples and explain.
28:59 Please.
29:01 No, there are two things.
29:03 First, they are not ready to conduct elections.
29:05 They keep giving the same statement.
29:07 The Election Commission has decided.
29:09 What is the Election Commission's decision?
29:11 It is decided by the law.
29:13 When the assembly is over,
29:15 elections will be held.
29:17 In 60 days,
29:21 or in 90 days.
29:23 We are going.
29:25 It is a great blessing.
29:27 Oh God!
29:29 Our halwa manda
29:31 was lost.
29:33 What will we do now?
29:35 The people
29:37 are not even ready
29:39 to give us a car.
29:41 They are not ready
29:43 to see us.
29:45 They have been with us for 16 months.
29:47 We are going.
29:49 We are going.
29:51 We are going.
29:53 I am saying that
29:55 they don't want to conduct elections.
29:57 As you know,
29:59 this is not a joke.
30:01 The elections they have conducted
30:03 in Punjab and KP
30:05 are proof of that.
30:07 The Election Commission
30:09 is not trustworthy.
30:11 They have
30:13 under a scheme
30:15 of the election commission
30:17 has become a party.
30:19 No country's person
30:21 wants to kill
30:23 the election commission
30:25 until they prove.
30:27 I would like to interrupt a little.
30:29 When the Supreme Court
30:31 gave the order
30:33 to conduct elections
30:35 in Punjab and KP,
30:37 the Election Commission
30:39 wrote a letter saying
30:41 that this is the order of the Supreme Court.
30:43 The Finance Ministry,
30:45 the Minister of Interior,
30:47 the Minister of Defence,
30:49 Mr. Prime Minister,
30:51 we need money, security.
30:53 We have to print the ballot papers.
30:55 You know what the Cabinet did?
30:57 The Cabinet said
30:59 that we cannot make this decision.
31:01 We will take this decision
31:03 to the Parliament.
31:05 Now the Parliament is in front of the court.
31:07 The decision that Mr. Shaheen
31:09 was telling us a while ago,
31:11 those decisions are in the field.
31:13 The decisions have been
31:15 misinterpreted or misplaced.
31:17 We will know about the follow-up
31:19 in the coming weeks and months.
31:21 But now in the current situation,
31:23 what is the Supreme Court saying?
31:25 I don't believe it.
31:27 I have a personal relationship with the election commission.
31:29 You should have listened to me.
31:31 The election commission...
31:33 What should I listen to?
31:35 The election commission announces
31:37 that there is an election on the following day.
31:39 Then the government and the administration
31:41 will make it happen.
31:43 You don't remember.
31:45 You will remember, Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sahin.
31:47 They announced the date in Punjab.
31:49 But when they got nothing,
31:51 tell me,
31:53 did King Sikandar Sultan
31:55 bring it in his own hands
31:57 to say that if you put a stamp here,
31:59 then we will...
32:01 Look at what the election commission
32:03 is saying in the newspaper today.
32:05 What can I say?
32:07 The destruction that has been
32:09 caused in Punjab is under their nose.
32:11 And let me tell you this,
32:13 people had told them
32:15 that whatever you put,
32:17 it will destroy the province.
32:19 It is on record.
32:21 But when you
32:23 put cotton in your eyes,
32:25 blindfold on your eyes,
32:27 and cotton in your ears,
32:29 and that's it.
32:31 Then you didn't see
32:33 what you had to do.
32:35 You didn't see the Supreme Court,
32:37 you didn't see the law, you didn't see the role.
32:39 So who is going to believe you?
32:41 No. Sorry, sir. I am sorry.
32:43 Mr. Gurman,
32:45 I am also saying the same thing.
32:47 The election commission
32:49 is saying again and again that we are ready.
32:51 Even today, there are red flags
32:53 in the streets.
32:55 There are statements being made.
32:57 Why didn't the elections happen in 7 months?
32:59 Mr. Chaudhary, I am telling you again and again,
33:01 you are repeating the same thing,
33:03 but the problem is that the parliament,
33:05 what could the poor election commission do?
33:07 The parliament is standing in front of you,
33:09 the cabinet is standing in front of you.
33:11 Now they said all that.
33:13 It is my job to come here and help you.
33:15 Instead of doing this, I keep eating chaat there.
33:17 So what is your responsibility?
33:19 I said the same thing in the beginning,
33:21 but I am saying it again and again.
33:23 Mr. Chaudhary, this is a law.
33:25 The action that Ghulam Hussain has to take,
33:27 that Khawar Gurman has to take,
33:29 or the Supreme Court of Pakistan has to take,
33:31 the matter is in front of the Supreme Court.
33:33 And the Supreme Court,
33:35 as Mr. Shoaib Shaheen has said,
33:37 the decision is still there.
33:39 A judgment has to be made on it.
33:41 That, Mr. Umar Atta Baniyal,
33:43 who is an outgoing justice,
33:45 he has to stay until 16th September.
33:47 He will probably come on 17th.
33:49 Mr. Adif Aizisa will probably come.
33:51 Our new Chief Justice.
33:53 Viewers, we will go to a break now.
33:55 We will meet you again after the break.
33:57 Welcome back, viewers.
34:03 Today, Pakistan Mineral Summit was held
34:05 in a big hotel in Islamabad.
34:07 Prime Minister Shabaz Sharif chaired it.
34:09 Guest of Honor was Army Chief General Asim Munir.
34:11 Investors from all over the world were present there.
34:13 We had a very comprehensive presentation.
34:15 The State Minister,
34:17 Dr. Musaddak Malik,
34:19 was presented by him.
34:21 The number of participants
34:23 was very impressive.
34:25 According to an estimate,
34:27 the total value of the minerals
34:29 that are present in Pakistan,
34:31 the minerals that are present in Pakistan,
34:33 the total value of the minerals that are present in Pakistan,
34:35 Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain,
34:37 please sit comfortably.
34:39 Please sit comfortably.
34:41 The total value of the minerals
34:43 is $6 trillion.
34:45 The total value of the minerals
34:47 is $6 trillion.
34:49 The total value of the minerals
34:51 is $6 trillion.
34:53 It is a very good initiative.
34:55 The project has been relaunched
34:57 under the SIFC
34:59 under the One Window Operation.
35:01 The speech by the Army Chief General
35:03 was a reference to the Quranic verses.
35:05 He said that Allah tests people
35:07 and that difficult times also come.
35:09 Sometimes in the form of fear,
35:11 sometimes in the form of fear.
35:13 But it is the duty of a Muslim
35:15 to face the difficult times
35:17 with courage
35:19 to face the difficult times
35:21 with courage
35:23 and as a nation,
35:25 and as a nation,
35:27 and as a nation,
35:29 we can face the difficult times
35:31 we can face the difficult times
35:33 we can face the difficult times
35:35 economically.
35:37 And God willing,
35:39 the whole nation will work together.
35:41 The project is being launched
35:43 and the minerals are available
35:45 in all parts of the world.
35:47 The dust to development
35:49 of this conference
35:51 of this conference
35:53 of this conference
35:55 is being carried out
35:57 is being carried out
35:59 in all parts of the world.
36:01 We are hopeful
36:03 that this initiative
36:05 will continue
36:07 in the next two or three months.
36:09 It is a very good project.
36:11 We are hopeful
36:13 that in the coming months and years,
36:15 the economy of Pakistan
36:17 will have positive effects.
36:19 Positive effects will be there.
36:23 The economy is flourishing.
36:25 In the form of corruption,
36:27 in the form of crime,
36:29 in the form of loot,
36:31 how much control is there?
36:33 The army is with us,
36:35 the government is with us,
36:37 but the result is that
36:39 the common man has to be fed.
36:41 Ibn-e-Maryam,
36:43 someone please cure my pain.
36:45 Look, Mr. Chaudhary,
36:47 you are absolutely right,
36:49 but the problem is
36:51 that we have been here for 75 years
36:53 and at every opportunity,
36:55 an initiative is taken
36:57 and it is carried forward
36:59 and then it is stopped.
37:01 In my opinion,
37:03 what I have seen there
37:05 is that it is a very good initiative
37:07 and it should continue.
37:09 It should continue.
37:11 And I hope that the coming government,
37:13 whoever has the mandate,
37:15 will continue this initiative.
37:17 That's all for today.
37:19 See you tomorrow.