Cipher kisi ne dekha hai?

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Cipher kisi ne dekha hai?

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00:00 We are going to have a conversation with the senior lawyer. You heard the conversation.
00:07 Who saw the cipher? Did any journalist see it or not? Today, Azam Nazeer Tariq Sahib said, "Classified information cannot be made public."
00:15 The content of the cipher was presented in a twisted way. How it was presented, you heard.
00:22 Special Assistant to the Prime Minister Irfan Qadir Sahib was saying that there is no mention of 'no confidence' in it.
00:27 We heard this. Our member of the National Assembly, our senior, Bashamul Shireen Mazari Sahib,
00:33 stood on the floor of the house and said that 'no confidence' was said to be a sign of certainty and success,
00:39 but not of bearing the consequences. Who saw the cipher? There were many briefings.
00:44 Was it shown to any journalist? Was it made public? Or not? Let's talk.
00:49 We have journalist Faria Idrees with us. Faria Sahiba, thank you very much for being with us.
00:54 You heard the press conference today of Azam Nazeer Tariq Sahib. He said that 'classified information cannot be made public.'
01:00 Our Official Secrets Act is implemented here. But when it is said to make the cipher public,
01:06 naturally, journalists also play an important role. We also saw in that era that the opposition first said that the cipher is not serious.
01:12 Then it was said that the cipher is there. We also have the flags of two national security committees in front of us.
01:18 There were some briefings in which I was also present. But the last briefing that the former Prime Minister gave as Prime Minister,
01:25 in the PM House, you were definitely there. And in that session, one of the few journalists,
01:31 may Allah grant him heaven, Arshad Sharif did not remain. One has gone missing. Two countries are in turmoil. You are the only one left.
01:37 So I said, 'shall I ask you, was the cipher shown to you in that session?'
01:41 Thank you very much, Meher. You have pointed out correctly that today, after the press conference of the Law Minister,
01:48 there is a lot more understanding. It was also there before that this is a very serious matter.
01:53 You had also attended a briefing. Before that, you may remember that the briefings that were being held,
02:00 in those, the talk was about the cipher. But never, as such, a document or anything was presented.
02:07 I will first mention a meeting that took place a few days ago. I think you were present in it,
02:12 when Asad Umar Sahib read out those minutes and gave them to us.
02:16 No, I was not present in that. Not in the last meeting.
02:19 And a journalist even joked that if we take this from you, then he said that this is not an original document.
02:25 These are the minutes that I have created from it. And at that time, the Official Secret Act was also mentioned.
02:32 Then, the last meeting, I remember, when I went to the Prime Minister's House, I got a call from you at that time too.
02:38 And at that time, because it was a very tense atmosphere, and everyone was discussing the same thing,
02:42 that actually, what is the Prime Minister going to do at that time? There was a lot of speculation too.
02:47 You may remember, a lot of things were being said on the channels. A lot of speculation was being done.
02:53 So, in the midst of that speculation, we went there and we were thinking what is going to happen.
02:58 But when we went there, we were told the same thing. The Prime Minister at that time said that
03:03 I want you to, this was his full awareness that his government will not remain,
03:08 but at the same time, there was also an understanding that maybe for 2-3 days, he will hold a meeting of the Assembly.
03:14 This was also discussed there. But he said later that I want you to show this document now,
03:21 but there is a hiccup in it, and that is that first the Cabinet will declassify it,
03:28 after that you will be able to see it. So, for a long time, I had the impression that maybe we will be able to see it.
03:37 But in that meeting, that document or anything related to it or anything in this regard was not presented.

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