Le ministre de l'Intérieur et des Outre-mer Gérald Darmanin était auditionné ce mercredi 19 juillet à 17 heures par la commission des lois de l'Assemblée nationale, sur les violences urbaines. Il a condamné l'idée du racisme systémique dans la police, en argumentant : "il est faux de dire qu'il y a un racisme systémique de la police nationale et notamment pour les gens qui viennent des Antilles". S'adressant au député de la 4e circonscription de Martinique Jean-Philippe Nilor (groupe LFI), il a poursuivi : "Il y a des policiers et gendarmes antillais à qui on ne peut pas faire, si on partait de ce principe, le procès de racisme, ou alors on serait assez loin, me semble-t-il, de la réalité". Ecoutez.
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00:00 You are systematizing an answer because you want it to be systematic.
00:03 Likewise, Mr. Miller, there are not all the police officers, or the National Police, that are racist.
00:08 You have cited three absolutely awful facts.
00:11 I remind you that for the case of the police officer who shot at the young man,
00:14 while having a very clear and, in my opinion, not in line with the law or the training provided to this police officer,
00:21 he is still presumed innocent, and even if he has serious and concordant clues because he was put on trial,
00:26 and that is the law, he is not convicted. So I also want to respect his presumption of innocence as in any action.
00:32 But Mr. Speaker, it is wrong to say that there is systemic racism in the National Police,
00:37 and especially for the people who come from the Antilles.
00:40 In fact, it is an insult to all the Antilles people, and you know that there are extremely many.
00:43 You write to me almost every week to ask that police officers you know, no doubt, join your beautiful territory.
00:51 There are police officers from the Antilles, to whom we cannot do, if we start from this principle, the racism trial.
00:58 Or else we would be quite far, it seems to me, from reality.
01:01 So I believe that on both sides, if we could stop systematizing and drawing general knowledge on acts that are unbearable,
01:08 and it is not because a foreigner commits acts of delinquency that all foreigners commit acts of delinquency,
01:12 there are also many foreigners who have intervened to protect police officers and gendarmes during this period,
01:17 who have protected, I have the example of a buralist in a province where these two people of foreign origin,
01:22 Mr. Speaker, you are not listening to me anymore because I think that it goes far from your ideology and your reality,
01:26 but I say, let's salute them, let's salute them, Mr. Speaker, these two foreigners who helped this buralist to save his carcass.
01:32 You did not say it, it's a shame.
01:34 So let's not systematize.