Cops Make Horrific Discovery in Woman's Soup Pot
In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Sarah Buzzard.
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In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Sarah Buzzard.
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00:00I may be just totally off my rocker, but I was just out walking my dog,
00:04and I came across some bones that looked to me to be human.
00:08He had been dismembered.
00:10Oh my God.
00:11Okay.
00:11And I, like I said, there was apparent saw marks, okay?
00:18What marks?
00:19Saw.
00:19Oh, saw.
00:20When a human spine is discovered by a woman walking her dog in Mercer County in January 2016,
00:26it launches an investigation that will take years to unravel.
00:31Even with a bone-chilling confession,
00:34investigators are left questioning the truth behind their victims' unimaginably gruesome demise,
00:39and they will soon find themselves with another body on their hands before the case is over.
00:45The following report is based on official police records,
00:48and most of the footage has never been seen until now.
00:51Following the 911 call from the concerned dog walker,
00:55police discovered a skeletal human spine hidden among the frozen brush
00:59in a fairly remote area in Mercer County.
01:02Though they conducted a thorough search of the area, no other remains were found.
01:07This left investigators with two main questions.
01:10Who was their victim, and where were the missing body parts?
01:15Despite a DNA profile being uploaded to NamUs,
01:18a police database for missing persons cases,
01:21the identity of the victim remained unknown.
01:23That all changed in 2020,
01:27when a Bureau of Criminal Investigation agent working on cold cases
01:30connected the profile of a missing persons case in Columbus, Ohio
01:34with the timeline of when the skeletal spine was discovered.
01:3821-year-old Ryan Zimmerman was reported missing at the end of November 2015,
01:44just two months before the 911 call.
01:47Ryan had last been heard from a month prior in September.
01:50After contacting Ryan's parents and conducting a DNA test,
01:55investigators were able to confirm that the partial skeleton belonged to Ryan.
02:00They spoke to Ryan's father, Warren, over the phone.
02:03Your son did, um, it was obvious that there was foul play involved, okay?
02:08Um, there was some remains that we were not able to locate, okay?
02:13So it was also discovered that he had been dismembered.
02:17The location of Ryan's skull was like something out of a horror movie,
02:29but that wouldn't be revealed until much later.
02:32Even worse than discovering that Ryan had died were the details investigators shared with Warren about Ryan's remains.
02:53There was apparent saw marks, okay?
02:57Um...
02:57What marks?
02:58Saw.
02:59Oh, saw.
03:00Right.
03:00When he was found, um, it was basically skeletal remains.
03:05What is the sound like?
03:06Gangland?
03:07Or, uh, some kind of sick trafficking?
03:10Or what the hell?
03:11I mean, who would do something like that?
03:12Those are all questions that we are hoping to work to try to get some answers for Ryan and for your family, okay?
03:19Police were able to track down the three people living with Ryan in Columbus before Ryan's disappearance.
03:25Corey Buzzard, Sarah Buzzard, and Naira Jen Whittaker.
03:30On August 25th, 2021, officers had to find Sarah and Jen, who were now married.
03:36After moving out of the apartment they shared with Corey and Ryan, they now live at Sarah's mother's house.
03:42What will unfold shortly is a twisted and unpredictable case.
03:46One that is far more disturbing than anyone anticipated.
03:52It takes a few minutes, but eventually Sarah answers the door.
04:03Hello, police department.
04:04Looking for Sarah.
04:06That's me.
04:06Couldn't step out for me.
04:08All right, sorry I had to wake you.
04:10No, sorry.
04:11Um, I think you got a warrant.
04:14Warrant?
04:15Uh-huh.
04:16It's out of Ohio, I think.
04:19It's a theft warrant, I believe.
04:21I'm in return location.
04:23Okay.
04:24All right, so we have to take care of it.
04:28Zero, zero, two.
04:28I've got her out front.
04:30All right, so go ahead and turn around.
04:31Put your hands behind your back for me.
04:33Though he doesn't know it just yet, the officer asks Sarah a question that will foreshadow a devastating series of events.
04:40I don't want to sound nervous, but do you have any weapons or anything in the house upstairs that I need to worry about?
04:45I don't think so, though.
04:46I don't want to come out with a gun or anything like a buck charge.
04:52Sarah informs the officers that her mother and Jen are inside the home, and they soon join her on the porch.
04:58Just a little bit.
05:00Okay, so what's going on?
05:03Well, we've got to take her downtown.
05:05I've got to look at exactly what the warrant is for, and then we'll go from there so I can...
05:11It's through Ohio, so they sent us over here, so others sent the warrant over here.
05:19We get them from out of state all the time.
05:21You know what I mean?
05:22Sarah and my daughter, we never that kind of person.
05:27But if there's something missing over there...
05:31No, no, I mean...
05:32Take some deep breaths, Sarah.
05:34Yeah, once you move it...
05:36While the officer dances around their questions regarding Sarah's arrest, Sarah's disposition begins to take a turn.
05:43You been sick?
05:44No, I like that.
05:46We just woke up, sorry.
05:48Okay.
05:49Have you been sick, or...?
05:51No, just shot.
05:52Oh, okay.
05:53Despite looking like she might pass out, it's decided that Sarah can travel to the police station.
05:58Okay, I'm going to hold your arm so you don't fall over, okay?
06:00Okay.
06:04Once at the police station and in an interrogation room, Sarah is told that detectives from Ohio want to speak with her.
06:13Hi, Sarah.
06:14Hello.
06:15I'm Megan Baker.
06:16I'm the sheriff's office in Ohio.
06:18I'm Rick Ward.
06:19Hello.
06:20Hello, Sarah.
06:21Well, I'm assuming you have lots of questions.
06:24Yes, I have.
06:25We're going to take some time to sit down with you here, and maybe we can get some answers for those questions for you, if that's okay?
06:29Sarah has read her Miranda rights and agrees to speak with the detectives.
06:34They immediately dive into questioning, beginning with her time in Columbus almost six years ago.
06:40Sarah explains that she lived with her then-husband, Corey Buzzard.
06:44While married to Corey, Sarah had also started dating Jen, who was transgender.
06:50Eventually, as her relationship with Sarah progressed, Jen moved in with Corey and Sarah.
06:54A few months later, they got another roommate, someone named Emma.
06:59And that's a little bit about why we're here, is to talk about Emma, also known as Ryan Zimmerman.
07:05He went missing.
07:07Are you familiar with any of that?
07:08No.
07:09Okay.
07:09So, I guess, tell me what you know about Ryan.
07:12Or Emma, if you know him as Emma.
07:15According to Sarah and Jen, Ryan was newly transitioning, which is why they knew Ryan by the name Emma.
07:21However, this claim hasn't been substantiated or verified by any members of Ryan's family.
07:28It's a little bit of a touchy subject.
07:30My husband, at the time, had sexual interests.
07:36They had talked online extensively, and he had invited them to come stay with us, which I did not want to happen.
07:49But, long story short, it did.
07:52After Sarah and her partner Jen move into the house with her and Corey, Corey decided to meet someone and reached out to Ryan online.
08:00After speaking for a short period, Ryan moved into the Columbus apartment as well.
08:05At the same time that Sarah is in interrogation at Sarah's mother's house, Jen is also being approached by detectives.
08:12However, Jen is a little more hesitant to speak with them.
08:15What seems like it may be a simple conversation about Sarah's apparent arrest for theft will soon have a nightmarish outcome.
08:23Please step outside.
08:24Okay.
08:25We have a search warrant for the residents, too.
08:27Okay.
08:28So, we're not stepping outside.
08:29We're working a missing persons case from Ohio.
08:32The Ohio Attorney General's office has a task force on missing persons.
08:37Okay.
08:38And Ryan Zimmerman, Ryan Zimmerman, lived with you guys in Columbus in 2015, with you and Sarah and Corey, September 2015, right?
08:50We want to see where they're going.
08:51And he's missing.
08:52And you guys were like the last people to see him.
08:55After clarifying that Ryan also went by the name Emma, or M, Jen remembers briefly living with Ryan.
09:02The investigators will often switch between referring to Ryan as Ryan and as M, or Emma.
09:09After only living with Corey, Sarah, and Jen for two months, Ryan was asked to leave.
09:14Sarah claims that Ryan and Corey's relationship ended, and Ryan never found a job, which was part of her agreement to allow Ryan to stay in the apartment.
09:23Because of this, Corey told Ryan to leave, and Ryan planned to leave on September 25th.
09:28This timeline correlates with the last time anyone heard from Ryan.
09:33I know that they had tried to plead with me to give them another chance, but I said that I'd already given too many chances, and that it was Corey's call, ultimately.
09:49And I remember them packing, and either I went to the store or I was in a different room.
09:59I don't remember.
10:00I just, I can't quite remember.
10:05Who was all home at that time?
10:07I was, um, Corey was not, and then my, my girlfriend was over, um, so we might have been in the living room.
10:23I, I, honestly, I don't remember.
10:26Okay.
10:27Um, I just know that one minute, uh, Emma was there, and then the next, he had just left.
10:35Okay, did you see him leave, like, pull away in a vehicle or something?
10:39Uh, somebody pulled up, and he got in the car and, and drove off.
10:44I thought that he might come back because he did leave his car, um, but he didn't come back, and then we didn't hear from him again.
10:52There will eventually be troubling discrepancies in Sarah and Jen's stories.
10:57The detectives at Sarah's mother's house ask Jen a follow-up question about Ryan's vehicle.
11:02What kind of car did he have?
11:05Did you ever ride in the car?
11:08Yeah.
11:09You were never in this car?
11:11Yeah.
11:12Okay.
11:12Had you ever driven it?
11:15Uh, yes.
11:17Okay.
11:17To the store or something, or when did you drive it?
11:20Um, to the, to a gas station.
11:24I couldn't get it to start again.
11:26Um, so I had to call a tow company to bring it back, but I was embarrassed about it because I, I didn't really have permission to drive it.
11:39So did you drive it while he was still living there?
11:42No, this was after he'd left.
11:44Oh, okay.
11:47Um, were you by yourself during this?
11:49My girlfriend was with me.
11:51Unknowingly, Sarah has just unraveled one of the mysteries behind Ryan's disappearance.
11:56Warren, Ryan's father, had been alerted that something was wrong when Ryan's vehicle was found abandoned.
12:02Though the license plate was missing, police found some of Ryan's belongings inside the vehicle, along with the keys and a full tank of gas.
12:11Warren had taken it upon himself to knock on neighbors' doors to see if they remembered anything useful about the car, or Ryan's disappearance.
12:19To his surprise, someone did.
12:21One of the neighbors said they saw the car get dropped off by a tow truck near the apartments where Ryan was staying with Corey, Sarah, and Jen.
12:28And about a half hour later, the Columbus Police Department came and wrote the ticket up and had the car, the vehicle towed.
12:35I'm thinking, why would somebody, you know, it was like they wanted it to get picked up.
12:39Sarah claimed that she thought the vehicle had vanished because Ryan had returned and took it.
12:44What she doesn't add, not yet at least, is that there's an unsettling reason she'd been using Ryan's vehicle that day.
12:51Before moving on, the detectives return to the question of Ryan's behavior before leaving the apartment.
12:57Jen reluctantly gives the detectives some background information about the living situation before Ryan left,
13:03claiming Ryan was usually in the spare bedroom and was reclusive.
13:06Jen believed that Corey regretted asking Ryan to move in with them.
13:10Uh, I'm just kind of weird.
13:13I guess, how weird?
13:15Like, was she just kind of clingy?
13:17That's the thing, too.
13:18No, I'm so...
13:20Okay, I have a pretty bad solution to this baby.
13:23Mm-hmm.
13:24But M seemed to have way worse solutions.
13:27Okay.
13:28And how, I guess, how was M's behavior then?
13:33Accessibly shy.
13:35Okay.
13:35Jen also explains the reason for some of the tension with Ryan.
13:39Sorry, it's just the anxiety.
13:41Sure.
13:42I don't like to admit that I am trans, but it was just weird.
13:47Corey brought another trans person into the house.
13:50Mm-hmm.
13:51Because that's what they wanted.
13:52They had...
13:53I shouldn't use gender-interview of Corey, because that's confusing.
13:56Um, Corey had papers written up about...
14:00I forget what he calls it, like the trifecta or perfect relationship.
14:04But it involved one man, one woman, and a trans woman.
14:10Okay.
14:12Um, and I don't want any part of that.
14:15Sure.
14:15I'm assuming that's why they brought M in.
14:18I think Ryan was just kind of the last straw for me.
14:23Uh, tell me more about that.
14:26Why was he the last straw?
14:28Uh, that was probably one of the biggest arguments that we had to make him that third person.
14:37Uh, but I obviously didn't agree with that.
14:43And, uh, the entire time, it made me feel like I wasn't good enough.
14:48After Ryan apparently moved out of the apartment, Sarah and Corey divorced, and she married Jen soon after.
14:54The detectives take a break, and when they return, they will confront Sarah with the awful truth of why they are really there.
15:01Hey, I got you some more water.
15:05Um, Sarah, um, I don't know if you know this or not, probably not, but you're talking to Jennifer right now, talking to your mom, and also talking to Corey.
15:21And there's major inconsistencies about this with your involvement with Ryan.
15:30And you know Ryan is now deceased.
15:34Um, he is.
15:35He's been murdered.
15:36So we have Corey is talking to the Columbus police detectives right now.
15:41We just get off the phone with them.
15:43The detective isn't being entirely honest here.
15:45While officers have managed to track down Corey's new residence, Corey is proving less than enthusiastic about the prospect of speaking with officers.
15:54You're not in any trouble.
15:55I don't have an arrest warrant.
15:56Nothing like that, Corey.
15:57Okay, we just want to talk with you because your name was brought up as a witness.
16:01In the case, I'm like, a homicide.
16:03Homicide.
16:04A homicide.
16:05I have not, I don't recall witnessing any homicides.
16:08Okay, we're just wanting to talk.
16:09That's it.
16:10Okay.
16:11That's it.
16:12I'm not, I haven't lied to you at all, Corey.
16:14Okay.
16:15It's about Ryan.
16:16I don't know who Ryan is.
16:18Ryan lived with you for a while.
16:20Emma.
16:21He also went by Emma.
16:23Okay.
16:24He was a roommate for a while.
16:25Okay.
16:26Okay.
16:26That's what we're here to talk to you about.
16:28Not without counsel.
16:30Okay.
16:30Do you have an attorney on hand?
16:32Yes.
16:33Okay.
16:33Do you think they would meet us down there?
16:35Can we make an appointment?
16:37I'd rather get this done today.
16:38I don't really think I have to work on your time.
16:42While the officers speaking with Corey have once again hit a dead end, those with Sarah
16:47began to lay out some of the evidence.
16:49I mean, this is a bad situation.
16:54We really need to know what happened.
16:56With the car, we have DNA evidence.
17:01We're able to track down your car, the one that you used to own, the time of this incident.
17:10We were able to track down the car and owner, and we're able to examine it.
17:14So we have major, something happened in that apartment the weekend that you dropped Corey
17:21off with that girl in Columbus.
17:24The evidence the detective is referring to are reddish stains discovered on the carpet
17:29liner of Sarah's vehicle.
17:31Though she'd sold it, they found the new owners in July 2021 and conducted tests inside the trunk.
17:37The stains produced presumptive positive results for suspected blood.
17:41Earlier, Sarah had claimed that Corey hadn't been home the weekend Ryan moved out,
17:46because Corey was with another woman.
17:49In fact, Sarah had been the one to drive Corey and the woman to a hotel.
17:53Investigators spoke with the woman and confirmed that Corey was nowhere near the apartment
17:57where Ryan was last seen.
18:00While Corey may still prove to be an important witness to the events leading to Ryan's death,
18:05Sarah and Jen appear to be the last known people to see Ryan.
18:08So please just tell me the truth what happened.
18:12Corey's given a whole nother version of what you just said.
18:18Please, just please tell me the truth.
18:22I'm not comfortable talking about this.
18:26Well, we have a young...
18:28Was it an accident?
18:29Yeah.
18:30I don't know what was an accident.
18:33With Ryan.
18:35I didn't even know that he was dead.
18:37Sarah, come on.
18:39I'm sorry.
18:40Sarah, Sarah, please.
18:41Is there someone that I can talk to?
18:43Well, you can talk to us.
18:46I just want the truth.
18:48The other officers also confront Jen with the news of Ryan's death.
18:52We're trying to find Emma, and we were somewhat successful in that.
18:57Okay.
18:58Wait, what?
18:59Somewhat?
19:00Mm-hmm.
19:00What leads?
19:02That's what we need you to fill in the gaps,
19:04because whatever happened to Emma happened in the apartment where you guys stayed at,
19:10and we've recovered evidence from the apartment.
19:14We recovered evidence from Sarah's car.
19:16Right.
19:17Blood.
19:18Wait, what?
19:19Mm-hmm.
19:20Blood from the trunk of the car.
19:22Blood from the apartment by the bathtub.
19:24Where in part of Emma's body, we discovered it was dismembered.
19:29Even though they'd all moved out by early 2016,
19:32investigators were able to access the apartment where Sarah, Jen, Corey, and Ryan had once lived.
19:38In July 2021, a month before they spoke with Jen and Sarah,
19:43authorities visited the apartment and asked the current residents to leave
19:46while they conducted tests throughout the building.
19:49Under close examination, several areas in the bathroom reacted to a chemical reagent
19:54indicating latent blood residue, including the bathroom floor and the cabinet.
19:59No way.
20:01No way she had anything to do with any of that.
20:03She did?
20:04No.
20:05There's no way.
20:06Tell me why.
20:07The Google searches, the deep dives that we did, the stuff that she was into at least,
20:15right?
20:16Painting with blood, like into drinking the blood,
20:19and then the searches that she did on her Android phone.
20:22I don't know.
20:23I don't know about any of the blood stuff.
20:25While this comment about painting with blood will be explained eventually,
20:29investigators won't have the chance to ask Sarah about it just yet
20:33because she immediately throws a wrench into their plans.
20:36Sarah Lloyd, who I can talk to, that wasn't my rights, right?
20:41Well, that's your decision.
20:43We don't advise on that, but all we're asking is for the truth.
20:49I don't know what to say.
20:53The truth, maybe?
20:55I've said what I remember.
20:58And you're telling me that's the truth?
21:00It's what I remember.
21:01This is going to be your only time to talk to me and Megan.
21:06After this, we're not allowed to help.
21:11So.
21:12What happens to me after this?
21:15You're going to be booked in the local county jail here?
21:19I mean, we wouldn't be doing this if we didn't have physical evidence.
21:22That's why I was giving you an opportunity.
21:31Okay.
21:31All right, Sarah.
21:38Once again, the detectives leave Sarah alone.
21:41In contrast, those speaking with Jen lay on the pressure.
21:45This is a fever dream.
21:48I'm sorry?
21:49This is a fever dream.
21:51I know this feels like a nightmare now, so we need you to fill in the other parts of this thing
21:55because this isn't a nightmare.
21:56Emma's dead.
21:57Emma's dead?
21:58Emma's dead.
21:58Corey's dead?
21:59No.
22:00No, Emma's dead.
22:01Okay.
22:01Did Corey have you guys get rid of his issue?
22:05He ain't like Emma coming up.
22:06Emma's not what he expected.
22:08The selfies didn't show what Corey had wanted.
22:12Comes up, Emma's completely shy, reclusive, nothing.
22:16What Corey expected.
22:18Corey went away for the weekend for you and Sarah to get rid of his problem.
22:21Corey and Sarah were fighting a lot over it.
22:23Let's just get rid of the problem.
22:25There's no way.
22:26It isn't long before the detectives decide to once again try speaking with Sarah.
22:34And this time, they will hear a stomach-churning confession.
22:39Megan here has something she wants to show you.
22:41I just have something I need to take a look at, okay?
22:44Read over.
22:46Then we'll get your thoughts on that.
22:49This is from your Google account.
22:52Okay, these are your searches on your Google account that you said you don't have access to.
22:58So, flip through these pages.
23:00Yeah, look through all of them, of course.
23:01And take a gander at that.
23:02After seeing the evidence within her own search history,
23:05showing that she looked up how to start Ryan's car after it broke down,
23:09Sarah begins to unravel.
23:12What's that happened to my family?
23:14Well, we'll talk to your family, okay?
23:16And you'll get to talk to your family, okay?
23:20We can work through this.
23:22One thing at a time.
23:24This is the first step.
23:26Okay, look at me.
23:27I'm scared.
23:29Okay, I understand you're scared.
23:32Okay.
23:32I've ever come as a speeding ticket.
23:36You're an honest person, okay?
23:38I don't think you're a bad person at all.
23:40Sarah, let us help you.
23:44Go ahead and start from the beginning, okay?
23:46It was an accident.
23:47Okay, it was an accident.
23:48Accidents happen every day.
23:49Okay, so what happened?
23:54I was angry.
23:56Okay, I get angry too.
23:57And I knocked him down when he came out of the bathroom.
24:09And I choked him.
24:11And then I didn't know what to do.
24:19I've never done anything like that.
24:22And I got scared.
24:23I didn't know what to do.
24:24We're scared.
24:26I realized I ruined my life.
24:28While the detectives speaking with Sarah have finally made some headway, those with Jen are
24:35hitting roadblock after roadblock.
24:37I'll be honest with you.
24:38I think it's been eating you up.
24:40Is it eating Sarah up?
24:41I mean, people can have differences with people, right?
24:44But to this extent, you know, it would eat somebody up, literally.
24:50I mean, you would be not sleeping well, not functioning well.
24:53You know, it's a lot, right?
24:56No.
24:58Yeah, that's a lot.
25:00Yeah, it is.
25:02But, no.
25:05No.
25:06I wasn't aware of that.
25:07I've been living fine.
25:10Okay, so maybe...
25:11Things were fine.
25:12Things were fine until Emma came along.
25:15And then things were fine.
25:16No, no.
25:17No, if you want to go back to that, no.
25:20But even then, no.
25:24But, you know, things have been fine.
25:27There was no murder weighing on us.
25:31While Jen continues denying any knowledge, Sarah is telling a very different story.
25:36I put him in a chokehold and knocked him down.
25:40Did he pass out?
25:42Were there words exchanged?
25:44He passed out.
25:45Okay.
25:47Took and they didn't let go.
25:49Mm-hmm.
25:50And then it was too late.
25:52And then he stopped moving.
25:55He started turning white.
25:59And I couldn't go near him.
26:02Though this is the first time Sarah has shared what happened to Ryan, this is only one version
26:06of the story.
26:08And with each retelling, the details only grow more and more unsettling.
26:12Sarah claims that Jen heard the commotion from downstairs and came up to see what had happened.
26:17And to figure out how to get rid of it.
26:19Mm-hmm.
26:21So what happened?
26:23We cut him up.
26:27We being you and Jen.
26:29Was this when Corey was away with at the hotel?
26:33Okay.
26:35So where did you cut him up at?
26:36Bathtub.
26:37Bathtub?
26:38What did you use?
26:40Some kind of salt.
26:42Where did that come from?
26:45I found it in the shed.
26:48So you used to have your own shed there?
26:50Mm-hmm.
26:50Okay.
26:54Who did the cutting?
26:55Mostly me.
26:57Jen, on the other hand, refuses to make any concessions.
27:01I just don't remember.
27:02Yeah, you do.
27:03No, I don't.
27:04Here's the thing.
27:05You're going to remember these things.
27:06Yeah, I would probably remember if there was murder and a saw.
27:12And where did you cut him at?
27:14Again, this is all stuff I already know.
27:16Okay, I just need to hear it straight from you.
27:18The joints.
27:19The joints?
27:21Can you point to the, I guess what you mean by joints?
27:23The elbows.
27:24The elbows.
27:25No.
27:27The wrists.
27:28Eggballs.
27:29Mm-hmm.
27:30Knees.
27:32And then up here?
27:33Mm-hmm.
27:34On the neck.
27:34Okay.
27:35Does Jen help cut him up?
27:37Not really.
27:38She wasn't feeling well.
27:41She got kind of sick.
27:43Okay.
27:43So I took over most of it.
27:46But did she help a little bit at the beginning?
27:48Okay.
27:49We were both really scared.
27:51One of the officers in Jen's interview steps out of the room to take a call.
27:56And when they return, they have news that will flip Jen's denials upside down.
28:01Got an update.
28:02Okay.
28:03Sarah just admitted everything.
28:05And you helped us remember the body.
28:07Uh-huh.
28:07She admitted all of it.
28:08Okay.
28:09So fill us in with what's going on.
28:12Right?
28:12With a car.
28:13You're going to remember everything.
28:14So at this point, Sarah is spilling the beans on the whole kit and caboodle.
28:21Okay.
28:21Okay.
28:22This is what we told you before.
28:23We knew where we were at.
28:24So this amnesia that you have, is it going to work?
28:27Because now you're implicated in this as well.
28:29I still have amnesia.
28:31Then fill it in.
28:32Fill it in.
28:32I didn't do that.
28:33I just got the phone call from the analyst that's listening in on the interview, and
28:39she's coming clean, right?
28:40But they're watching it live.
28:41Okay.
28:42She's coming clean, and you helped dismember the body with her.
28:46No, they're not.
28:46Yeah.
28:46Sarah's not going to be able to do this by herself.
28:48Yeah.
28:49And if she said that, then she's lying.
28:53You just said before, Sarah wouldn't lie.
28:56She's not lying.
28:57I didn't say she wouldn't lie.
28:58So who's lying here?
29:00It's not Sarah.
29:01It is definitely Sarah.
29:02Yeah, if she said that, oh.
29:06Yeah, I would remember that.
29:08Just to the point, because you're being implicated now.
29:10So now it's a lie.
29:13No.
29:15We just want to get Emma, his family.
29:17Yes.
29:18Where did you guys go, then, with the body?
29:21All right, let's get to this part here.
29:23Where did you go with the body after it's dismembered?
29:26And don't say you don't know.
29:29I don't have to say I don't know for that,
29:31because we didn't do that.
29:33Luckily for investigators, Sarah is giving them all the answers.
29:37This, however, is only her first confession,
29:39and she will eventually share another that changes everything.
29:42So, you got him cut up, then what happens?
29:46We have to figure out where to put everything.
29:50So where did you say you put his belongings?
29:52Where did those go?
29:53Like his clothes and his...
29:55Um, just in one of the bags.
29:57Okay, and where did those...
29:58We put those in a bin.
30:01Like a dumpster?
30:02No, like a Tupperware pin.
30:06Oh, okay.
30:07And where did that go?
30:09In the back of his car.
30:11Okay.
30:12We were going to drive the car somewhere.
30:15Mm-hmm.
30:16And leave it.
30:20But the car wouldn't start.
30:22This is the real story about the tow truck.
30:25According to Sarah, she and Jen planned to dispose of Ryan's dismembered body parts,
30:29which they'd loaded into the back of Ryan's own car.
30:33While their plan had been to abandon the car in a deserted location in Illinois
30:37before taking a Greyhound bus back,
30:39Ryan's car refused to start after they stopped at a gas station.
30:43This incident has a horrific new implication.
30:47Ryan's remains were still in the back of the car when the vehicle was towed.
30:51And Sarah and Jen then had to move the Tupperware bin
30:54full of his dismembered body parts in broad daylight into Sarah's car.
30:58They left Ryan's vehicle in the street, where the police eventually towed it away.
31:04We started driving and trying to get rid of little things at a time.
31:11Along the road, or is there special spots?
31:14In public dumpsters.
31:17Okay.
31:19So did you dispose of, like, his limbs in different spots?
31:23Okay.
31:24Do you know where those spots are?
31:25We just stopped wherever.
31:29Something looked okay.
31:31It seemed, like, secluded or something like that?
31:34I don't know.
31:34Like, a couple, a couple gas stations.
31:39Mostly just, just public dumpsters.
31:42I don't, I really don't know.
31:44While Sarah doesn't clarify,
31:46they only disposed of Ryan's torso and belongings.
31:48The rest of his limbs and head had a different, even more alarming destination.
31:54Here's the thing.
31:55You have been holding back this whole time with all of this stuff,
31:59because I don't think you thought Sarah was going to be honest about it, but she is.
32:02Oh, okay.
32:03So let's do the right thing.
32:04And you wanted to do the right thing, right?
32:07So tell us about that.
32:09About what?
32:09Please.
32:10About the dismembering it, and then where you went from there.
32:13I didn't dismember anybody.
32:14You did.
32:15No, I did not.
32:16That's fucking insane.
32:17It's not insane.
32:18That's insane.
32:19This shit happens all the time.
32:20I mean, you may not want to admit to doing it, right?
32:22But this stuff happens all the time.
32:24So where was Corey during this?
32:26No idea.
32:27No idea.
32:28Still at the hotel possibly?
32:29I guess so.
32:30Okay.
32:30Any communication with him?
32:32I shut off my phone.
32:34Okay.
32:35Why did you shut off your phone?
32:36I was scared.
32:37Okay.
32:38Did he know something had happened?
32:42I don't think so.
32:44I told him Ryan just left.
32:47And he didn't ask any questions.
32:50Despite several attempts to get Corey to speak with police, Corey steadfastly refused.
32:56I have no idea what you're talking about.
32:59Okay.
32:59So you don't know Ryan?
33:01I don't.
33:01You don't know Ryan?
33:02He didn't live with you at all?
33:04I'm not going to talk to you without an attorney present.
33:08We're talking with Sarah and Jen.
33:11Yeah.
33:11Everybody involved that weekend, we're talking to you right now.
33:15Except you right now.
33:16Because right now, you kind of look like the bad guy if you don't want to talk to us.
33:19Everybody else wants to talk to us.
33:21That doesn't look good for you.
33:23Yeah.
33:23They told me that you would say that.
33:25Who would say that?
33:27My attorney.
33:28Okay.
33:28Corey refuses to speak any further and ultimately never comes in to discuss Ryan's case with officers.
33:34Without Corey's help, detectives will have to put more pressure on the people who are talking to them.
33:39Sarah and Jen.
33:41One thing still isn't clear.
33:43A motive.
33:44Why were you so angry at him?
33:46What happened that you came up behind him and started choking you?
33:50He ruined my life.
33:51Tell me a little bit about that.
33:54I mean, I told you the arguments Corey and I had.
33:59Mm-hmm.
34:00And I couldn't make him see reason.
34:04The officers talking to Jen also tried to understand a motive.
34:08You could do whatever you could to make Sarah happy.
34:11So let's get rid of Em.
34:13Because that would make Sarah happy, right?
34:15To get her out of that household.
34:17Sure, but they agreed to leave.
34:20But she wasn't.
34:21Not willingly.
34:22Not fast enough.
34:25She agreed to leave.
34:27Without meaning to, Jen points out a glaring issue with Sarah's current confession.
34:32If Ryan had agreed to leave, why didn't she simply let that happen?
34:37This exact question will be central to the story Sarah tells later.
34:41Did Jen know that this was going to happen?
34:44No.
34:45But she was there for me.
34:48Sure.
34:49She's your support.
34:49You said that.
34:51That's what support people do.
34:53I'm worried about what's going to happen to her.
34:56I don't want to understand that.
34:58We understand.
34:59It's only natural.
35:00And we appreciate you talking to us openly.
35:05The detectives have no reason to assume that Sarah means anything more than simply worrying about Jen.
35:10But her concern hints at a disastrous turn of events soon to come.
35:15So what happened?
35:17You got him.
35:19Something happened to Emma and you put him in the tub and you guys did your thing.
35:24Fill us in on that, please.
35:27That didn't happen.
35:28She's filling in the gaps where you are not filling in the gaps.
35:33Though we know that you know what happened, right?
35:36Because it's written all over you.
35:38I mean, as soon as you get to a hot point, you minimize and you kind of look down.
35:42It's like a kid with a parent.
35:43I don't want to look and acknowledge that I'm lying to you.
35:46Surprise.
35:47I have anxiety.
35:48So when you started dismembering it, right?
35:52So what happened from there?
35:53Not right.
35:55So Sarah started.
35:56Sarah dismembering at this point in time.
35:58No.
35:58You were just holding on.
35:59Thumbs.
36:00You were keeping a lookout.
36:02No.
36:02What are you doing?
36:02No.
36:03No.
36:04She's not cutting this body up herself.
36:07That's probably because she cut up a body.
36:10She just admitted to.
36:11No, she didn't.
36:18She did.
36:18Yes, she did.
36:19The detectives attempt a different approach to get Jen to talk.
36:23It's more beneficial to go, this is where it is.
36:26And it shows that you're wanting to make things right.
36:28You're wanting to get things better.
36:30And you're showing remorse.
36:32Because the judge back in our county.
36:34I'm not showing remorse because I don't know how to process this.
36:38And I'm not showing remorse.
36:40There is no remorse to be had.
36:42So getting rid of a disposing of a body, you shouldn't show remorse for that?
36:46Of course you should.
36:47You're still in shock that Sarah has come clean with everything, right?
36:52There's no way she did this.
36:55Your world's crashing down.
36:57And we're just trying to help you figure a way to make it a little softer of a crash.
37:02Even though Jen refuses to believe Sarah admitted to the death and dismemberment of Ryan,
37:07Sarah's own interview is already wrapping up.
37:10I just don't know what to do because I thought I had my whole life ahead of me.
37:16And I made one mistake.
37:18And that's exactly it.
37:19And now it's over.
37:21Don't put yourself short.
37:24I just turned 30.
37:25I feel like that's it.
37:27One step at a time.
37:29Okay.
37:30One foot in front of the other at a time here.
37:32Continuing to show an unsettling lack of concern for Ryan, Sarah then makes an inquiry.
37:37Is there any kind of bail or am I going to have to stay there the whole time?
37:42There's not bail right now.
37:43But that's not to say that there won't be bail in the future.
37:46Okay.
37:46Just not right at the present time.
37:48Sarah is informed that the charges against her include tampering with evidence, grand
37:53theft of a motor vehicle, abuse of a corpse, and gross abuse of a corpse.
37:57Okay.
37:58I appreciate you being honest with us.
38:00Because that's the kind of person you are.
38:04Thank you, Sarah.
38:04One of the officers who had been interviewing Sarah heads over to Sarah's mom's house in
38:17order to take a crack at Jen and see if he can break through the unrelenting denials.
38:22This is where everything goes horribly wrong.
38:26Where are they?
38:27Though the video footage is redacted, Jen is introduced to the detective who spoke with
38:31Sarah and has then read the Miranda rights.
38:34Am I being arrested?
38:36Okay.
38:36Well, we have some things we need to talk to you about that you're not saying yes or no.
38:40Well, because it all depends on you.
38:42So we're going based on physical evidence and now what Sarah told us.
38:46That's my job.
38:47I'm doing my job.
38:48They're doing their job.
38:51I'm sorry.
38:52I don't want to put words in a little bit.
38:55No, go ahead.
38:56They said that she said she was involved.
39:02Absolutely.
39:02100% and this interview is being recorded and I cannot lie about that.
39:11Okay.
39:12I trust you.
39:13She absolutely said she was involved and she gave details and you were involved in those
39:20details.
39:21I mean, I'm not making this shit up.
39:24I don't know how I was involved.
39:26Well, she told us how you were involved, but I don't want to go into those details because
39:31if you tell me and something's different, I have to go back and talk to her and try to
39:36iron out the inconsistencies.
39:38Hearing that the detective isn't lying about Sarah's confession seems to be a turning point
39:42for Jen, but not in the way they hope.
39:45I don't remember any of that.
39:49I don't know why Sarah would say that.
39:51You're just surprised Sarah said it.
39:53Of course I am.
39:55Right.
39:55Because she'd gotten away from it this whole time until today.
39:58After hours of conversation, the new detective points out something that the others have
40:02failed to notice.
40:04While speaking with the officers, a purse has remained on Jen's lap.
40:08What's in your purse?
40:15After Jen explains, they quickly move on and continue questioning.
40:19This time about the evidence they've uncovered, a choice that will likely haunt the detectives
40:24for the rest of their careers.
40:26And we found large quantities of blood in the trunk from Emma.
40:32That's a clue.
40:33We call them police work.
40:34You know, I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be facetious, but, uh, but that's called
40:40a clue, you know?
40:42So, I mean, uh, when we put two and two together and then we, we talk to Sarah and it all kind
40:48of matches up, you know what I mean?
40:51It all matches up.
40:52What's going to happen to her?
40:54Well, I don't know.
40:55It all depends on what you tell me.
40:58To my knowledge, she didn't do anything.
41:01But I'd be more worried about yourself right now.
41:03Why?
41:04Because of what she's telling us and the physical evidence and the social media search warrants
41:12that we did.
41:13I'm not worried about myself.
41:15There's a very good reason Jen isn't worried.
41:17And once again, the purse comes up.
41:20You don't have any, like, weapons in there, do you?
41:23What are you playing with in your purse?
41:25Eight years ago.
41:26No.
41:27So, Jen, like we talked about, you asked if you were under arrest.
41:32You, you are going to be placed into custody.
41:34Um, I want to, before this gentleman, he's a detective with the Marion, uh, City of Marion
41:42Police Department.
41:43Um, you're going to be booked into there.
41:46Central 055
41:57I need an ambulance shots fired
42:00How long has our hand been in that?
42:08055
42:09I'll need you to respond to the scene
42:11Do we have a victim?
42:15Affirmative
42:15None of ours, right?
42:17But we didn't return anything?
42:19Negative
42:20No officer involved
42:21Just as officers began their arrest
42:23Jen pulled a small handgun out of the purse and fired
42:26Jen was pronounced dead at the scene
42:28From a single bullet wound to the back of the head
42:31While this is happening back at the police station
42:34Sarah is led away in handcuffs
42:36Unbeknownst to her
42:37Jen has just died
42:39Stand up, turn around, put your handguns, okay?
42:42Am I able to use the restroom again?
42:44When we get over to the jail
42:47I'll let you use the restroom over there, okay?
42:48Okay
42:49Months after her arrest and Jen's death
42:52Sarah is brought in to share an entirely new version of Ryan's death
42:56After a few more pleasantries, the investigators clarify with Sarah that her lawyers agreed she can speak with them
43:21And they read her Miranda rights
43:23They immediately begin by discussing Sarah's new confession
43:26In this discussion, she refers to Jen by the name Naira
43:30On the morning of the 26th
43:33Naira started voicing some plan about killing him
43:40And I did not take her seriously because she would make comments like that sometimes
43:46I still didn't take her seriously, but I was starting to get worried because of how intricate it was getting
43:53And then when she started gathering tools like trash bags, bleach, the hand saw from the shed
44:03I realized she was serious
44:05So I
44:07I tried to talk her out of it
44:09Calmly at first and then I started getting a little hysterical
44:14And she told me that if I didn't help that she was going to do it anyway
44:21Um, and usually at this point the attorneys ask me, well, why, why did you do it?
44:25Why didn't you call the police?
44:26Why didn't you kick her out?
44:28Um, and it was because I loved her
44:32I was so scared and horrified, but
44:36There wasn't, like, I, I didn't stop
44:39I didn't stop her
44:40I didn't
44:41Love is a problem
44:42Yeah
44:42She had a rag, uh, that she dipped in bleach
44:48And she had the bottle of vinegar next to her to add to it when the time came because
44:56I guess they had some kind of chemical reaction or at least some kind of poisonous gas
45:01I don't really know, but she did the research for it
45:03Though Sarah has significantly shifted the roles that she and Jen play in the planning and execution of Ryan's death
45:10She still tells detectives that she jumped on him when he came out of the bathroom before Jen then held the rag over Ryan's mouth
45:17The changes in her story only become more apparent as the details grow even more brutal
45:22Um, when he started making these guttural gasping noises, um, Naira let me get out from under him
45:33And I curled up in the office and cried
45:36So I stayed in the office for a while until
45:39She did get him in the bathtub and she had put a
45:44Trash bag over his head and
45:47Severed it
45:48And then put
45:50That into the freezer so that she could deal with it later
45:54Since her arrest, investigators have discovered chilling evidence about the fate of Ryan's decapitated head
46:00Something they'll bring up shortly
46:02In this retelling, rather than Jen being the one to dispose of Ryan's clothing
46:07It was Sarah who took on this job
46:10However, this doesn't mean she didn't help with the dismemberment
46:13She started to get intestinal cramps
46:16Um, so she went to lie down and said I had to take over
46:20Um, so I
46:22Put the hands in one bag
46:24Or no, um, the hands and the feet
46:26She told me to
46:27Put in a bag and then she also put it in the freezer
46:30For later because
46:32She said those would be the two
46:34Big identifying factors
46:36And she would have to deal with them separately
46:38Um, so I
46:41Removed the
46:42The forearms and the calves at
46:44The joints
46:45It was
46:46Slow, exhausting work
46:49Um, and I did not
46:50Work fast enough
46:53Um, her original idea was to
46:56Cut up everything into as small as manageable pieces as possible
47:00And then, uh, dispose of them that way
47:03But we didn't have enough time to do that
47:05So we just had
47:07The head, hands and feet
47:09The forearms went in one bag
47:12The calves went in another bag
47:13And then we just had to deal with the torso
47:14After this, the story remained the same
47:17They loaded Ryan's dismembered body into a Tupperware container
47:21And attempted to use Ryan's vehicle
47:22Until they eventually had to call a tow truck
47:25The difference this time
47:27Apparently, Jen was the one telling Sarah where to go
47:30As they drove towards Illinois
47:31Stopping randomly to dispose of Ryan's remains
47:35Including the area where Ryan's torso
47:37Was eventually discovered in Mercer County
47:40Two hours from Columbus
47:42The fate of Ryan's head
47:44Was an entirely different story
47:46Investigators eventually searched the garage
47:48At Sarah's mom's house
47:50Where they found several boxes
47:51Filled with what appeared to be human remains
47:53This included a pot
47:55Filled with a thick substance
47:57Hidden within layers of plastic garbage bags
47:59After the pot was emptied
48:01Investigators recovered a human skull
48:04In this version of her story
48:06Sarah claims it was Jen
48:08Who disposed of the remaining limbs
48:10Also because she didn't know
48:12The best way to dispose of it yet
48:14So we had to carry
48:18So she put it in the soup bin
48:22Put that in a bag
48:25Or several bags
48:26Put the pieces of the hands and feet
48:28Also in the bag
48:29And then kept bagging it up
48:31And we put it in the shed
48:33For the time being
48:34And every time we moved
48:36It would have to come with us
48:37So that was a weight
48:40That I had to drag with me
48:42Everywhere I went
48:43For a long time
48:45We would check the news constantly
48:46That's when we found out
48:48That the torso was discovered
48:50But as time went on
48:54And we didn't see any new news
48:56We started planning for a future instead
49:00And she had
49:06She had
49:10We had done a
49:11We made a pact
49:12That should something go wrong
49:16Or we get discovered
49:17That she was going to shoot me first
49:20And she said she would rather die
49:22Than spend her life in prison
49:23The arrest came
49:25And when I said goodbye to her
49:29I could see it in her face
49:31That she knew
49:34This confession sheds an entirely new light
49:37On the footage of Jen and Sarah
49:38Saying goodbye when she was arrested
49:40You want to tell your wife bye or anything?
49:42Yeah
49:43You had mentioned
49:51And the bleach and vinegar
49:53On the ring
49:54Okay
49:55And then mentioned something different
49:57Was put into the pot
49:58Lye
49:59Some kind of lime mixture
50:00Okay
50:01And is that something you would have had on hand
50:03Or did she go out and purchase?
50:04That she did purchase
50:05The head in the freezer didn't
50:10Draw any attention
50:12Because she had
50:13Packed vegetables and stuff in front of it
50:16So it didn't
50:17Look like it was anything
50:18This is a horrifying detail
50:20While Corey was still living in the house
50:23Ryan's decapitated head was in the home
50:26Hidden just out of sight
50:27Behind some frozen vegetables
50:29The detectives take a quick break
50:31Before returning to clarify
50:32A few more details
50:34Including the comment investigators
50:36Initially made to Jen
50:37During her interview
50:38About Sarah painting with blood
50:40So art for me is
50:42A coping mechanism
50:44And I know that
50:46Randy and Eric had mentioned
50:48That there were two pieces in particular
50:50That gave people red flags
50:52One was a painting
50:55Of a sheep
50:58That was done in blood
51:02Or some of it
51:03That piece I had done
51:06Prior to ever knowing
51:08About Ryan
51:09That was a coping mechanism
51:12For everything that I'd been through
51:15With Corey
51:16Sarah posted this drawing
51:18To her illustration Facebook page
51:20In June 2015
51:21Titling it
51:23Sacrificial lamb
51:24Though she created it
51:25A few months before meeting Ryan
51:27It eerily depicted the lamb
51:29Dismembered and decapitated
51:31The other one was a mermaid
51:35Holding a human head
51:37And I know that people thought
51:40Or at least I heard that
51:42This was like
51:43Showing like look what I did
51:46What Sarah doesn't mention
51:47Is that she titled this drawing
51:49Till death do us part
51:50But that was also a coping mechanism
51:54Having to drag that around
51:58With me everywhere we moved
52:00During the interview
52:01Sarah also doodled a quick drawing
52:03Of the saw they used
52:04To dismember Ryan
52:05The elusive motive
52:07Still needs to be clarified
52:09And so detectives ask
52:10The haunting question
52:11Of why Sarah and Jen
52:12Didn't simply let Ryan
52:14Leave the apartment as planned
52:15The thing she said
52:17Was along the lines of
52:19Someone like that
52:20Doesn't deserve to be out
52:22In the world
52:22To ruin someone else's life
52:24So I think in some
52:27Perverse way
52:28It was her idea that
52:29I don't want to go so far
52:32As to say she was
52:33Dealing out justice
52:35But she just felt
52:38Very strongly that
52:40He didn't deserve
52:43To be out there
52:44She said that
52:45If you want to transition
52:46Your goal is to
52:47Just fit in
52:49To
52:50And that's what
52:51She tried to do
52:52She didn't
52:53Point out anything
52:54She tried to be
52:55As feminine as possible
52:57Because that's what
52:58She wanted to be
52:59Was a woman
52:59And
53:00So with people like
53:04Ryan
53:05Who
53:06Say that they're
53:09Transitioning
53:10But are not
53:11Really making the effort
53:13Really bothered her
53:15She
53:16More commonly
53:18Said things like
53:19He's a disgusting
53:20Human being
53:21Or the world
53:22Would be better off
53:23Without him
53:23So that's
53:25That's why
53:27The fact that
53:28Ryan wanted to
53:29But
53:29Still looked
53:31And acted
53:32Male
53:33Just really got
53:35Under her skin
53:36With this
53:37Allegation in mind
53:38Investigators question
53:39Why Sarah confessed
53:40To the crime
53:41Initially
53:41You said you were
53:42Trying to protect Jen
53:43I guess
53:44Why try to protect her
53:46At that point in time
53:46Yeah that's what I
53:47Thought about
53:49In hindsight
53:49It
53:52It would have
53:53Devastated me
53:54To have to
53:57Throw her
53:58Under the bus
53:59And say well
53:59She was the one
54:00Who did it
54:01I guess there was
54:03There was a small
54:04Part of me
54:05That thought
54:06If I took the fall
54:07For her
54:07She would be okay
54:08But
54:10Thinking back now
54:12I should have
54:14Known
54:14With the look
54:15On her face
54:16That
54:16There was no point
54:18Trying to protect her
54:19She was going to do it
54:20Anyway
54:20With me
54:21Or without me
54:22As the interview
54:23Wraps up
54:23Sarah clarifies
54:24Why she wanted to
54:25Speak with the
54:26Investigators again
54:27I don't know
54:28If the prosecution
54:29Knows
54:30How much detail
54:32About
54:34Naira
54:35So
54:37I'm
54:38I'm
54:39Basically
54:40Just hoping
54:40That
54:41At the sentencing
54:43Essentially
54:44The same thing
54:45That I told both of you
54:46Just convinced a little bit
54:48We'll be able
54:49To go on the record
54:50So that
54:51My side
54:52Of the story
54:54And what actually
54:55Happened
54:55Will be
54:55Out
54:56In the end
54:58Sarah's new version
54:59Of Ryan's death
55:00Did little
55:00To change her fate
55:01In January
55:032022
55:04Sarah Buzzard
55:05Plead guilty
55:06And appeared
55:06In Mercer County
55:07Common Police
55:08Court for sentencing
55:09She was sentenced
55:10To life in prison
55:11With the possibility
55:12Of parole
55:12After 30 years
55:14Warren
55:15Ryan's father
55:16Had the last word
55:17I just know now
55:19That
55:19You know
55:20No one can hurt him
55:21Anymore
55:22And
55:22No one can hurt him now
55:23No one can hurt him
55:42No
55:44No
55:44No
55:45No
55:46No
55:46No
55:47No
55:47No
55:48No
55:49No
55:50No
55:50No
55:51No
55:51No
55:51No
55:52No
55:53No