D.L. Hughley says he would have a lot to think about if he were a juror in Luigi Mangione's trial ... telling us he might even go so far as to find the accused United Healthcare CEO murderer innocent!!!
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00:00it's interesting because because two years ago that would have been kyle rittenhouse
00:05so it's interesting so if we're going to be consistent about people who resort to violence
00:10and we need to and then i later line eyes we need to make sure also we live in a country right now
00:15where 10 years ago 12 years ago a black man tried to give this country the very health care that
00:19the uh health care ceos in jeopardy for and their their prescription was to call him a treasonous
00:27and to resort to threatening violence against him so this is clearly america and and that is always
00:33our default position where and we've accepted we've we accept that our schools have to have
00:38mass shooter drills we accept this as a matter of parlance as a matter of practice and now to
00:42pretend as if all of a sudden some america's acting differently is really disingenuous but hold on
00:48but that's a there's a difference there right i mean you're right that america has accepted all
00:54sorts of violence but that doesn't mean that we have to celebrate someone the the image of someone
01:00pointing a gun to the back of someone's head and shooting them and killing them but how why are we
01:07celebrating that that's now we now we've reached a different level right that's and i don't i don't
01:12know that we've reached this i will say this that very man was responsible for writing an algorithm
01:17that denied coverage to tens of thousands of people he enriched the company but what's the
01:22but what's hold on what's the recourse let's say that's true and and that way that may well be true
01:28then the question is what's the recourse because if the recourse is shooting them in the back um
01:35we are no longer even remotely a civilized society you may be right but are you are you saying that's
01:43the recourse i am saying that you give a nation that is drug idle and angry and uh what the once
01:50that the one freedom that no one has that has been expanded in america is the freedom to own
01:55having unfettered access to guns you take an angry society that they feel like they have no recourse
02:01this is going to happen a lot but i will say this i can hold in my my head two things i can hold my head
02:06the idea that a man is shot down in the middle of the streets but i can also hold in my hand so i don't
02:11feel bad for that but men like him who have the job that he has as a matter of practice deny coverage
02:18and health care and cost so whether a person dies by a pen or pistol i think that we i can see i can
02:25hold in my heart uh sympathy for both men but as a matter of practice this industry as a matter of
02:32practice what is it delay deny defend to enrich themselves off the pain and suffering of people
02:38there is going to be a recourse there's going to be a reckoning and pretend and to pretend like it
02:42isn't is really disingenuous to me this man was responsible for enriching that company by the
02:47suffering of other people and i'm it is it as sad as it is it isn't shocking but is it justified in
02:53any respect i tell you what if i can only be honest with you if i were on it if i were on a jury
02:59uh hearing this trial i would have to listen i wouldn't be able to just say that i that my mind was
03:04made up i think that i i have a i am sympathetic to the idea that people have gotten so frustrated
03:11with this industry and there's no recourse and nobody ever hears them that this is what we come
03:17to so i would have a hard time listening to not listen not being uh not being fair with it what
03:23you're saying is if you're on this jury the strategy if if luigi's attorneys take this the strategy
03:30and put the health care system on trial that you would as a juror be open to finding him not guilty
03:36despite the evidence that would also be presented that he walked up to the stand on camera look he
03:41did it right so are you saying that you put that there's a justification that you you put his you
03:47motivate you put his motivation on the stand which is what you talked about with the algorithm
03:52you would be inclined to find him not guilty let me tell you something man i watch i just watched
03:57for 1500 people do something in front of him in plain sight and be and and and they were summarily
04:01dismissed they have no so we live in a country that decides and it's it's really it's really
04:09uh kyle reynolds murders two people he goes on tour he riches himself on tour luigi mangoni uh uh he
04:16murdered somebody and they're both uh in my estimation murderers but one is lionized one is criminalized
04:24and they did exactly the same thing one and they both felt like they had noble causes so what is
04:29wrong with us that we decide to ascribe whatever violence we agree with uh uh deity and the other
04:34one we don't well but you're no no no no no you're talking about two rights make two wrongs make a
04:39right you're also talking about one man who pardoned all these people versus a society and a jury
04:47that would find him not guilty because they like his cause well let me ask you something was
04:53kyle reynolds didn't he murder two people when he found not guilty when he lionized didn't he gun to
04:58her right now yeah didn't he yeah and that but but but deal i think a lot of people i would hope most
05:05would feel like that felt wrong it was wrong so do we just say it's okay now going forward every time
05:12that there is a a vigilante murder he was tried by a jury they presented facts he was tried by a jury
05:19and he was acquitted right right yeah but you know but you know what look he was acquitted and
05:24and and they they got into a whole thing about was it self-defense did he intend and everything else
05:30here there's no issue it is a bright line that he executed somebody because he didn't like
05:37his policy at united health care if your actions result let's be clear what the way that that man
05:45and that those companies make money how do they make money is denying claims they're supposed to pay
05:52so in that there are people who are dying and being maimed because of it this is not come on so if
05:59somebody presented me evidence like that and put the insurance company on trial i think they'd have
06:03purchase i really do but you can't tell me that that man's actions hasn't caused it that it made
06:09inadvertent it's off the way it's out of public view but you're not telling men like that and women like
06:13that who truck in that industry whose whose mantra whose idea of enriching themselves is the delay
06:19deny and defend people die in that in that interim people are dying and they know it how would you feel
06:27how would you feel right and that should also be addressed i get absolutely right how would you feel
06:33if somebody has it out for a comedian who makes jokes about a particular race or group and says i'm
06:42going to take i'm going to take the law into my own hands i'm going to bring a gun into the comedy club
06:47and do what i think is right i feel like i was in america we've we've watched people get threatened
06:53with death for for for breaking home run records or getting jobs people don't get america is a
07:00violent place the prescription always for whatever you don't like has and always will be violent and
07:05it's also and we're making it easier and easier and easier to have weapons to exercise that violence
07:11let's let be clear it's easier to get a gun in now than it ever has been that is so don't tell me
07:19that you're shocked when people pick them up and use them as a prescription to the anger well it's
07:24really we watch our schools are our we watch murder people walk into schools and mow them down
07:31and make more access to guns listen i will say the one thing we clearly all agree on is that
07:37because we talked about this just yesterday um off camera we were talking about this it feels like
07:43america is more comfortable with violence oh they are than it's ever been and let me just say one
07:49we're out we're out of time i just want to say one thing that i know is true you're not getting on
07:54this jury no yeah they're not gonna get you got an easy out on this one man i'll tell you what man
08:02if you if you go if you're gonna mess with people deductibles you better learn how to deduct that's
08:06just real you people are angry they are