Southern Charm S10E17
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00:00♪♪
00:15Previously on the Southern Charm Season 10 Reunion...
00:18-♪♪
00:21Oh!
00:22I don't believe you.
00:24What?
00:25Stop.
00:26Hey, Chef, we got to talk about the text.
00:29A weird day for freckled lips.
00:31Ha ha ha!
00:32Holly and Chef, you shared a kiss at the finale.
00:35What happened after?
00:36I mean...
00:38Please!
00:39Craig, you just said that she broke up with you in Toronto.
00:43Yeah.
00:44And you were with Austin,
00:46but you chose not to share that with him.
00:49This is going to be harsh, but I don't trust him yet.
00:53You and I are going out on dates every single day.
00:57Mm-hmm.
00:58When your teaser drops, I text you,
01:00your ex-girlfriends, in my dm's,
01:03calling me a goddamn rat.
01:04What the...
01:05And then you ghosted me for a week.
01:07You should have said, hey, Vanita,
01:08I really want us to talk
01:09because I don't like what's happening between us.
01:10I did.
01:11So we can talk it out. You didn't.
01:12I did. I asked you for a meeting.
01:13Do you want me to go grab my phone?
01:16The girl you date now is the girl
01:18that you dated before Vanita.
01:19The girl who sent her nasty messages.
01:20Yes.
01:21I have a feeling it's about to get worse.
01:23Oh, boy.
01:24Tonight, the Southern Charm reunion continues.
01:29What do you want to show us?
01:33You said to me before I got up and walked away,
01:35you were like, you ghosted me and my feelings were hurt.
01:37That's what you said to me.
01:38Yes.
01:39October 29th, it will be super helpful for us
01:41to both link up in person
01:42to just see how you're doing after yesterday.
01:45So this is after the trailer dropped?
01:46Yes.
01:47Yeah, the day after.
01:48Because we're seeing each other now.
01:49We're hanging out every day, like you said.
01:51And I'm reaching out to you to be caring to you.
01:54I said, I think I'm going to just take time
01:56to myself right now, right?
01:57Boom.
01:58That's what I said.
01:59We don't talk, because I took time.
02:00And then I called you multiple times.
02:02You did not.
02:03Did I text you more?
02:04That weekend.
02:05That weekend.
02:06So still no response.
02:07I'm in the dark going, we were just
02:08hanging out every day.
02:09And I'm reaching out trying to make sure you're OK.
02:11And what did he say over the weekend?
02:13Just wanted to let you know my mind was on yours.
02:15I was at my best friend's wedding,
02:16so I didn't have my phone.
02:17And you said, got it.
02:18We'll let you be.
02:19I'll let you be.
02:20That's it.
02:20You gave me a week of just, I don't care.
02:22And then how soon after then, when he said?
02:23At 1.30, the next day, you post that girl
02:26on your goddamn Instagram.
02:28And say, we're girlfriend and boyfriend.
02:31Why did you do that?
02:32Why did you post that?
02:33You don't think that was going to hurt me?
02:35Real quick, do those text messages, like, that's
02:38showing me showing care for you.
02:39I know.
02:40It totally is.
02:42I'm just wondering then what compelled you to post that then.
02:45Were you doing damage control?
02:46Did Vamita hurt your feelings, and you
02:48tried to hurt her feelings back?
02:49No.
02:50No.
02:51After a week of trying for someone I cared about,
02:53I said, you know what?
02:54I got to move on, because I can't keep sitting here
02:56in limbo.
02:56After a week?
02:57It's a week.
02:58It's seven days.
02:59OK, so can I?
03:00Wait, wait, wait, just wait a second.
03:01You were just verbatim been like, hey, listen.
03:03Like, I know you're taking time for yourself,
03:05but I have to be very honest.
03:07I don't know where we stand right now,
03:08and it's hurting my heart.
03:09Can we talk about it?
03:10I hear you.
03:11You did not give me that.
03:13That's fair.
03:13That's fair.
03:14I can see you getting mad about that.
03:16Look, it was a big miscommunication,
03:18but my feelings were there.
03:19Sounds like you still have a lot of love
03:21and chemistry for each other, interestingly enough.
03:23I think they just miscommunicated,
03:26and both sides are super hurt.
03:27Yes, I agree.
03:30Well, I guess the question is, where do you go from here?
03:34I'd like to repair it and get the friendship back.
03:37Do you want to be friends with him?
03:42Yeah.
03:43You do?
03:44Wow, wow.
03:45Do you want to date him?
03:50Yeah.
03:51You do?
03:52Yeah.
03:52Aw.
03:53He's very honest.
03:55But I'm not going to allow myself
03:57to work on our friendship with her in the picture,
04:00because I know she does not like me.
04:03So how do you respond to that?
04:05I think step one is just being here today
04:08and, like, seeing you in person.
04:09And I think we just take it one day at a time.
04:12OK.
04:13All right, well, this is interesting.
04:18Despite JT being on the F boy hot seat this season,
04:21he continued to proselytize about the truth.
04:26OK, let's get to the bottom of some conspiracies.
04:29Oh, god.
04:31Why is Madison matching polka dots with Austin?
04:34You sound absolutely nuts right now.
04:37Austin and Madison, did you coordinate
04:39your polka dotted outfits?
04:42Polka dot?
04:43Madison?
04:43No, it was on invite.
04:45I called her, and I was like, Madison, I want you back.
04:48Let's coordinate together.
04:49I'm going to fight bread at this horse race.
04:52No, we did not coordinate.
04:53I will own that, and I will walk that one back.
04:55That was silly.
04:57Walk a lot back.
04:58Conspiracy theory that Austin cheated on Audrey.
05:01Leva, this actually came from you.
05:04Last summer, he's been dating her?
05:05Yeah.
05:06They've been dating for that long.
05:07Tough as night out.
05:08I met a whole bunch of girls who say they dated Austin.
05:10OK, so for clarification, I did not say cheated.
05:13OK.
05:14Rod was saying that they had been girlfriend, boyfriend
05:16for, like, a year.
05:17So it was a timeline.
05:19And I apologize to Austin, because I was like,
05:20that's not what I meant by it.
05:22Right, right.
05:23I had met her six months prior to us being,
05:26like, an official relationship.
05:28Madison, have you met Audrey?
05:29Yes.
05:30What do you think of her?
05:31I love her.
05:31I think she's lovely.
05:32Is the relationship the real deal?
05:35It feels like it.
05:36Really?
05:36Mm-hmm.
05:37Are you in love with her?
05:39I am.
05:41Duh.
05:41You are?
05:43Shut up, Rod.
05:45It's just so nice.
05:47Isn't this nice, Dad?
05:48This is very nice.
05:49It's so nice, yes.
05:51She's just a darling.
05:53OK, conspiracy theory.
05:55The JT called Miss Patricia a bitch.
05:58I don't know if Whitney's going to talk to JT after he
06:01finds out what he said about his mom.
06:05He called you a bitch.
06:08Now, that does not exist on camera.
06:11Miss Patricia came out on Instagram
06:13and said, when this was filmed, I still believed
06:16JT called me the B word.
06:18Now, I don't think he did.
06:21Who here thinks JT called her a bitch?
06:24I know he did.
06:27OK.
06:28Oh, boy.
06:30OK.
06:31Craig, you really hurt my feelings, bro.
06:33No audio found.
06:34You look like the handsome boy that cried wolf.
06:35I don't care.
06:36I don't have a dog in this fight.
06:38I'm telling you exactly what happened.
06:39You look like the handsome boy that cried wolf.
06:40And you're lying, and your lies are painful.
06:41But here's a good point, though.
06:42JT, take the bitch thing out of it.
06:46The stuff that you said outside of the bitch thing
06:49was way worse.
06:50There's nothing to take out, because I didn't say it.
06:52So stop saying it.
06:54I'm saying take that out of it.
06:55The stuff about Madison, the stuff about Austin.
06:58The stuff about Austin.
06:59You don't hold him accountable.
07:01We've got to get this guy in order.
07:02No.
07:03But you're keeping Austin in your life
07:05who's pulling this shit.
07:06It's none of my business.
07:08Did Craig misrepresent what was said at your golf outing?
07:11I'd say 90% of it was spot on.
07:1490% was spot on.
07:15You embellish.
07:16You embellish.
07:17I'm saying that's a good thing, Shep.
07:1990% to then go and repeat everything that was said
07:22is pretty damn fucking good.
07:23No, it was.
07:2490's good. All right.
07:25I thought he was coming at me.
07:26I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
07:27I'll take 90.
07:27Shep, are you serious?
07:28You're serious right now?
07:29Yeah, I was saying that.
07:30I called her a bitch.
07:31I didn't say that.
07:32That's the 10%.
07:33What's the 90% I did say?
07:34You tried to play moral police with us.
07:36You went on a rant how we can't stand for this sort
07:39of behavior from our friends.
07:41I'm saying.
07:41You exactly said that.
07:42I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
07:44I'm telling Austin to continue to cheat on his girlfriend
07:46by being friends with him, which is insane.
07:47You were just coming up with nonsense.
07:49You're going to let him just roll you like that.
07:50All right.
07:52I do want to talk about your relationship to the truth.
07:53Sure.
07:54OK, because you said on Watch What Happens Live
07:57that you had never lied on camera.
07:58I stand by it.
07:59And I said, well, in the episode
08:01that we were coming on after, they had
08:03showed a montage of you lying.
08:04I want to show you the montage.
08:05Yeah, and I'll walk you through it.
08:06OK.
08:08How long did you know that you didn't
08:09graduate from law school?
08:10Since the BNA.
08:12Really?
08:13Those words never came out of my mouth.
08:14I just graduated law school.
08:16Did you really graduate?
08:18Yeah.
08:19My fingerprint's done, my job's done.
08:21I had to get three character affidavits.
08:24All right, future's in here.
08:26So did you take the bar?
08:28I'm not allowed to take the bar.
08:29I hadn't received my official diploma.
08:33So I did mail in my bar application.
08:36It was rejected because I hadn't finished that final paper.
08:39The graduating thing, I did walk,
08:41and I was missing one credit.
08:43But you lied about graduating.
08:46Well, define graduating.
08:49Craig, I mean, this is OK, though.
08:51This was that point where you were like Adderall was.
08:53I mean, you were not the same person you are today.
08:55It's OK to say I was fallible like a mofo back then.
08:58I get that.
09:00But what I'm saying is when we are filming,
09:01I would never say something that can impeach
09:03me at the end of the day.
09:05Austin, what do you think about Craig's
09:07relationship to the truth?
09:08I mean, not going to flat out call Craig just like a liar,
09:12but you are an embellisher.
09:15Craig and I have shit that we're going to be talking
09:18about here soon, and we'll get to that.
09:22OK, well, it sounds like there's a lot of work.
09:25There could be some work to be done here.
09:29And we're going to leave it there and come right back.
09:35Coming up, they don't realize that I know all their secrets.
09:40I am terrified of Craig.
09:41Is anyone else scared of him?
09:43Yes.
09:44Chef is also.
09:54Hi.
09:55The queen has landed.
09:56This is her first reunion.
09:59They don't realize it, but I know all their secrets.
10:10Hi.
10:11I'll talk about it in the morning.
10:12I can't have the sugar.
10:14As a truce, just a little bit?
10:15Yes, I'll down it.
10:16A little bit?
10:17Oh, you'll down it for a truce?
10:19Yeah, for a truce.
10:20You're giving me a truce to risk my life?
10:21Would you prefer tequila soda?
10:22I'm risking my life.
10:23Well, don't make the thing beef.
10:25You trying to kill me?
10:26No.
10:28OK, here you go.
10:29You're flirting again.
10:30No, we're not flirting anymore.
10:31We're just, I'm trying to be good.
10:35How's your mom?
10:38All right, everybody to your chairs, please.
10:40You ready for Patricia to come apologize to you?
10:43Is she?
10:43Well, she's here.
10:44Is she here?
10:46Hey.
10:47How are you?
10:48I'm good.
10:48Nice to see you.
10:50Patricia, I'm so glad you're here.
10:53You look beautiful.
10:55All right, four, three, two.
11:00Hey, everybody.
11:01I'm Andy Cohen, and we're back with the gang
11:03from Southern Charm and Miss Patricia.
11:07Hey, Miss Patricia.
11:08Hi.
11:09Is this your first reunion?
11:11First and last.
11:12Yes.
11:14Well, does this set look familiar to you?
11:16I think whoever did this was genius.
11:19I mean, there's a painting of my house.
11:21There are fake antiques.
11:23Yes.
11:24Well, it is inspired by your home,
11:26or should I say Whitney's home?
11:28Whitney's home.
11:29Yes.
11:30Well, it is hard to believe that Southern Charm first
11:33graced our screens over 10 years ago.
11:36It's such a transformation for this group of charmers,
11:39some of whom were baby faced, naive, and even law students.
11:44Let's take a look back.
11:46My name is Shep Rose.
11:47My name is Whitney James Sudler-Smith.
11:50My name's Craig Conover.
11:51Oh.
11:53Oh, God.
11:54My group of friends in Charleston, fun.
11:57They're always pretty fairly drunk.
12:00Shep is brilliant.
12:01I do commercial real estate, but I don't really do shit.
12:06Craig's funny.
12:07He's kind of one of the younger of the crew.
12:08He's a law student.
12:10I mean, I love the law, but I want to be an attorney
12:12to be wealthy, obviously.
12:14I love money.
12:15It's awesome.
12:17I'm used to being filmed in my boudoir.
12:22The gentlemen, the guys that all hang out together
12:26are good looking, fun, accomplished, rich,
12:31and none of them are married.
12:34I always say my wife's not even born yet, but as a joke.
12:40I do want to have a family, I think, one day.
12:44But there's a window, and it probably
12:47just is starting to open.
12:48And it'll probably close in 15 years, or 10 years,
12:52or 12 years.
12:53Ah.
12:53Oh, damn.
12:56Wow.
12:58Wow.
12:59That was brilliant.
13:00That was amazing.
13:01Craig, you said your wife hasn't been born yet?
13:04I don't know that guy.
13:05Oh, I love that guy.
13:07I love that guy.
13:08Yeah, she's in middle school now.
13:09She's in middle school.
13:10Wow.
13:10Miss Pat, you look exactly the same.
13:13Literally.
13:14What's your secret?
13:15Botox everywhere.
13:16OK.
13:18Your son, he's one of the show's producers.
13:21How did he convince you to be a part of it?
13:23I didn't want to do it.
13:24I mean, I came to Charleston to retire, and read,
13:29and eat bonbons on my sheds.
13:31And he said, just do it for five minutes.
13:34And then they called me, and they said, well,
13:35just do it for the next episode.
13:38And then I remember being on the side of it at Bravo.
13:42And we always wanted more Miss Pat.
13:45Oh, that's very kind of you.
13:47I never thought it would go anywhere.
13:49I mean, who would be interested in watching
13:52this cast of reprobates and their misdeeds
13:57that have gone on now for 10 years?
13:59Right.
14:01Was it the scorn of Charleston kind of good society?
14:04Absolutely.
14:05Yeah.
14:07A lot of the locals, at first they hated it.
14:09And then they're like, oh, it's just entertainment.
14:10The city used to call the show Charmageddon.
14:13And then they kind of changed their.
14:15Oh, people love it.
14:17And the carriage rides now go by my house.
14:20Wow.
14:22Whitney thinks that he deserves like a cut of the tourism
14:24that comes to Charleston.
14:26Craig, you said on Watch What Happens Live
14:28you thought the first day of filming
14:30was some elaborate trick that Whitney was planning.
14:33What do you remember most about your first days of filming?
14:37I just didn't think it was real.
14:38I thought Whitney had made up the entire thing.
14:40Did you ever think you'd be here 10 years later?
14:43No.
14:44No.
14:44Three years was the goal.
14:46Yes.
14:47Madison, you were around in the early days
14:50because you were doing Patricia's hair.
14:52We've been friends for 17, 18 years now.
14:56And I invited her to a lot of the early parties.
15:00And in fact, two of the guys here tried to hook up with her.
15:05I think it was, what, four seasons?
15:07She's talking about me and Chip.
15:09I don't care.
15:10Maybe I did.
15:11Well, the friendship that the two of you
15:12share really resonates.
15:14Yeah, I love her.
15:16I love you.
15:17That's nice.
15:18So exciting that she's pregnant, right?
15:20I'm thrilled.
15:21And I've known about it.
15:22And I never divulged the secret, which is like the only secret
15:27I've ever kept.
15:29You were on Watch What Happens Live recently.
15:31And you said that you thought that Paige was mean to Craig.
15:36Were you surprised, Miss Pat?
15:38No.
15:38No, why?
15:39I thought that Paige was mean to Craig.
15:42You did?
15:43I did.
15:44I took a lot of criticism for saying that because people
15:46said, oh, you know, you're not a career-oriented,
15:52independent woman, which is totally incorrect.
15:54I've always worked.
15:55But my point was that it was dismissive
16:00and bordered on being rude.
16:02It was the way she said it.
16:04Yes.
16:05So Miss Pat, you've always given the boys words of wisdom
16:08when it comes to dating.
16:09Shep is now single.
16:10Craig is now single.
16:12Any advice that you can impart to them
16:15at this moment in their lives?
16:17You know, I have made many suggestions over the years.
16:22And they look at me, and, you know, they nod.
16:25And yes, yes, yes.
16:26But as you can tell, nobody pays any attention.
16:29It's lost.
16:30So, you know, I don't even bother.
16:31It's not worth it.
16:32I don't bother anymore.
16:34All right, thank you, Miss Pat, for your cameo.
16:36It was my pleasure.
16:38I love it.
16:39All right.
16:40And congratulations to everyone on 10 memorable seasons.
16:43Thanks, Andy.
16:46Coming up.
16:47You went around trashing my boyfriend.
16:49You are still running your mouth about me.
16:51You have nothing better going on in your life.
17:00We are back with the season 10 Southern Charm reunion.
17:03Well, this season, we were introduced to not one,
17:06but two new Southern Belles.
17:08I got a more passionate man now.
17:10He's hot.
17:11He looks like Jesus with tats.
17:13Also, Taylor slept with him.
17:16I'm 36.
17:17I'm in the years of the people who are getting divorced,
17:19so now they're new men opening up again.
17:21But then I feel like they're going
17:22to go through that, like, hoe phase.
17:24You don't want to get them fresh out.
17:25No, because I'm a jealous psycho.
17:27Cheers to that.
17:28Same.
17:30This season, Molly said Charleston
17:32was full of garbage men, Peter Pans, who suck at life.
17:35I am from Charleston.
17:37OK.
17:38And dating sucks.
17:40A lot of the guys are just used to having gorgeous women
17:44throwing themselves at them.
17:46Because there's not that many amazing people.
17:48Vanita, you co-sign that?
17:49I do.
17:50You do?
17:51Molly, there were a lot of viewers
17:52who related to your personal struggles
17:54this season with body image.
17:56Yeah.
17:57It's just hard to accept a new body,
17:59and a lot of people online are mean.
18:01So that has affected me.
18:04On that note, Whitney in the cupcake.
18:06You do this so you don't get icing all over in your nose.
18:09Hey, you know what, Molly?
18:10It's the last thing you need.
18:12Whitney.
18:13I was like, dude, what the fuck?
18:15Did Whitney ever apologize to you?
18:17He did.
18:17He did?
18:18Was it hard for you to be so open and vulnerable
18:20about your weight struggles?
18:21I don't know.
18:23I'm just really open about the things that bother me.
18:24I appreciate when other people are really
18:26transparent about that stuff.
18:27It helps me feel less alone.
18:30Brian Moylan wrote in Vulture, I love this weird ass geeky girl
18:34with all my heart.
18:35Of all the reality shows I've consumed,
18:37never have I once seen one that hinged on a tuba solo,
18:42feed us, oh great tuba goddess.
18:46This is the best thing I've ever heard in my life.
18:48Music is beautiful, and it changes you, and it's powerful.
18:51And it doesn't matter what kind.
18:52It could be singing, piano, it could be anything.
18:54I was impressed by just how into it the group was.
18:57I was so honored to have everyone come and support me.
19:01It really, really meant a lot.
19:03Shep is playing an instrument, sexy.
19:05Amazing.
19:06Any instrument.
19:07Yes.
19:08OK, moving on.
19:09Sally, we got a lot of comments on your job.
19:12Bravo and Blaze said, hold up, I'm still processing
19:14that Sally is a spine surgeon.
19:17OK, so you control a robot?
19:20Yes, a lot of people think that I'm just there
19:22if the robot malfunctions.
19:24But I am very much the only person touching the robot.
19:27The surgeon is still doing the surgery.
19:29It is a guidance system.
19:30And it's placing screws in your spine.
19:32You and Taylor have some overlap when it comes to men.
19:36Gaston, Andrew, Shep.
19:40How'd you and Shep get together?
19:43Shep slid into my DMs.
19:45OK, is Sally the only woman who's ever kicked you out
19:48of bed when she was?
19:50Yes, it was shocking.
19:52It was like 2 o'clock in the morning.
19:54And then he wouldn't leave.
19:56Oh, my god.
19:57I was like, but I want to stay here.
19:58She's like, no, you're not staying here.
20:00Why'd you kick him out, Sally?
20:02I was just honestly just kind of ashamed of myself.
20:05No, not like I think so highly of you.
20:08I am not someone that like goes and has like a one night stand.
20:11And it very much was that.
20:14Taylor, we got a lot of comments about you
20:16being bothered by the fact that Sally hooked up with Shep.
20:19Definitely not bothered by them.
20:20She can do whatever she wants.
20:22It was more so of a he's obsessed with me.
20:25And he wishes that things had progressed
20:27with me instead of Taylor.
20:28I would never say that.
20:29That's just not what happened.
20:31Shep was the one.
20:32He was blowing up my phone.
20:33I never said he was obsessed with me.
20:36He did blow up my phone for a little bit.
20:37He said that he was blowing up your phone.
20:38That's the same thing as saying he's obsessed with you.
20:40OK, well, whatever.
20:42Sally, how is your dating life?
20:43Are you still with Andrew?
20:45No.
20:46God, no.
20:47And the only thing I will have her back on
20:49is that that guy is weird.
20:51She said he's weird.
20:52He's weird.
20:53Hey, how are you?
20:54Good, man. How are you?
20:55Good to see you.
20:55Andrew, he's very strange.
20:59Well, Taylor stepped out of last season's Love Triangle
21:02right into a new relationship that
21:05seemed a lot like a fairy tale.
21:08Is that a ball in your pants, or are you
21:09just excited to see me?
21:10Excited.
21:11So Taylor, you two are still together.
21:14How long has it been?
21:15Almost a year and a half.
21:16Taylor, since there's been so much chatter
21:18about your boyfriend.
21:20He told me to keep his name out of my mouth.
21:22She's dating a dirtbag.
21:24I'm sorry.
21:25I know you are friends.
21:28Guys, don't.
21:29He was cheating on my friend with Sally.
21:31I would just love to give you the floor to clear anything up.
21:36Um.
21:41Taylor, since there's been so much
21:43chatter about your boyfriend.
21:45I would just love to give you the floor
21:47to clear anything up.
21:50Um.
21:53He's an incredible human being.
21:54He treats me well.
21:55And I'm going to hold him close.
21:58OK.
21:59Shep, you called Gaston mid.
22:03Why would you hook up with him?
22:04I mean, he's not a good looking.
22:07Shep, shut the hell up.
22:08I'm just saying, he looks mid, average.
22:12I think talking about someone's looks
22:14is very middle school, mean girl.
22:15Like, it's just not.
22:16I agree.
22:17Shep, you said her family wanted her to be with you.
22:20That wasn't fair to say.
22:22Why'd you say it?
22:23Well, I hope this isn't at her brother's funeral.
22:28Her sweet, sweet granddaddy was like,
22:30are you and Taylor going to get back together?
22:31And I was just like, oh my gosh.
22:33So and I'm at this point, I just care about her.
22:37And I never will stop doing that.
22:41What's frustrating is hearing you say,
22:43you care a whole hell of a lot.
22:47Why didn't you care when you had your tongue
22:49down some other girl's throat?
22:52You cared a little too late.
22:54I agree.
22:57All right, one person who has a lot to say about Gaston
23:01is Sally.
23:03Why keep talking about him?
23:04I stopped completely.
23:06She's the one that's continued to go around town and him.
23:09Well, yeah, when you're going around town
23:10and coming into a new friend group.
23:12When I'm going around town talking about you, it's crazy.
23:15You went around thrashing my boyfriend.
23:17You're still running your mouth about me today.
23:20Before I even had the chance to bring my relationship
23:23and introduce him to my friend group.
23:24Nothing better going on in your life.
23:26OK, you came in and infiltrated and leveraged
23:30my fractured friendship with the girls.
23:32There are people in this group that
23:35have told me not to trust you.
23:37Why would I?
23:38Why?
23:39The whole point is that you came into her friend group.
23:42And understandably, that is your experience
23:44and talked about a guy that she hadn't even
23:46introduced to the group yet.
23:48It's understandable from both ends, but.
23:50And he's not this asshole that you make him out to be.
23:53He was an asshole to me.
23:55You don't have to scream it to the mountaintops,
23:56to our friend group.
23:57Sally, do you want to have a friendship with Taylor?
24:00And not while she's dating us on now.
24:08I guess we won't ever be friends.
24:10Do you think you'll get married to Gaston?
24:12I think so.
24:14When do you think you and Gaston will make it official?
24:18I think in this year.
24:20All right.
24:20Yeah.
24:21Wow.
24:23Wow.
24:24Well, we wish you the best.
24:27Well, this season, Charleston's resident Martha Stewart,
24:30AKA Craig, attempted to live out his suburban dreams
24:35with a brand new pool and a side hustle as a beekeeper.
24:40But at the end of the season, Craig
24:41was stung when his queen abruptly left the hive.
24:47If you said to me right now, we need to have a baby
24:50or I'm leaving, like, you'd have to leave.
24:52When am I going to see you?
24:54Never.
24:55This is the last time you're ever going to see me.
24:56And you just don't know it.
24:58We were best friends.
24:59We loved each other.
25:00We had a great sex life.
25:01How are we giving this up?
25:05Craig, I know we have a lot to discuss about the breakup.
25:08But first, I want to know, how's the sewing business going?
25:10Business is good.
25:12I'm very fortunate that things outside of the breakup
25:15are something to be appreciative for.
25:17You caught some flack this season
25:19being more concerned with promoting
25:21your businesses on Instagram than spending
25:23time with friends.
25:26Shep, you were after him to get serious
25:29about his life for so long.
25:31Look, there's a balance, right?
25:33And if Craig had just really been more communicative
25:36looking back, I mean, you know, when you had your talk
25:38with Austin on the beach.
25:39It was like, try not to be an alcoholic
25:42is now affecting my friendship with Austin.
25:44Wasn't it a great spot, dude?
25:49Communication is everything.
25:51And I'm sure we're going to get there.
25:54Good.
25:55How did his relationship with Paige
25:56cause him to pull back from his friendship with you?
26:00You know, you get into a relationship like Craig was in,
26:03and there's no shame or anything to, like, make that person,
26:07like, your number one priority.
26:09But when did things begin to go wrong?
26:11I can't even tell you.
26:12So that just shows, like, he didn't
26:15lean on any of his friends.
26:17And third party friendships are really important as well.
26:22And I think his anchor was dug in so deep with her
26:24that maybe that wasn't a healthy thing at the end for them.
26:27You know, my only way to get to where I wanted to get
26:30on my, like, journey was to really isolate myself.
26:34And, like, I really liked having someone home to go.
26:37I don't know.
26:39Looking at it from the outside, it
26:41seemed like you were setting up a life for the two of you
26:44that only one of you was interested in.
26:47Oh, Jesus.
26:48OK, and you're like, I want some honey.
26:51What does that look like?
26:52You go to the store and buy it.
26:55Do you think there were signs you
26:56missed in the relationship?
26:59The funny thing is, is I was working on myself
27:01to not react to signs.
27:03So, like, she stopped visiting me in Charleston.
27:05But it was because she was, like, too busy.
27:07She never came to the Nashville store.
27:09But it was like, she was too busy.
27:10So it was a confusing relationship to be in sometimes.
27:14Talk to me about the ring.
27:16She was like, I'd like you to get me a ring.
27:17Like, I think it's time.
27:19So I had it made here.
27:20And it's like a four carat elongated cushion
27:22cut with a half carat of diamonds around the band.
27:25Then by the time I got the ring, she was like,
27:27I'd rather you wait until after I announce the business.
27:30But looking back, like, it didn't feel totally right.
27:34Like, I was nervous, but not the good type of nervous.
27:37What will you do with it?
27:39I'll bring it back to the jeweler.
27:40I don't re-gift jewelry like my friend over here.
27:44You got me a Megalodon tooth.
27:46The same one you got me.
27:47It was a Megalodon tooth.
27:49The other one was great white, OK?
27:51It's different.
27:52Austin, recently on Watch What Happens Live,
27:54you alluded that Paige, having moved on with another guy,
27:57was substantiated.
27:59I don't think that those are rumors.
28:01And I think that Craig knows as such.
28:04Wow.
28:05You said that with pretty good certainty.
28:07Yeah, I shouldn't have, because I don't know the girls,
28:11you know, day to day.
28:12But it looked like repetitive dates.
28:15So that's why I thought this doesn't
28:16seem like it's a rumor.
28:18At what point does, like, three different outlets
28:20corroborating a story, like, if it walks like a duck,
28:23it quacks like a duck, it's a duck?
28:25That's kind of what I was alluding to.
28:26Paige responded to that accusation.
28:29She said, the narrative took a turn really quickly,
28:31that I had cheated.
28:32Let me say this here.
28:33Now, I didn't cheat on my ex-boyfriend.
28:35It was a full month that we were broken up,
28:37and I didn't say anything.
28:38And he asked me not to say anything.
28:40That's not true.
28:40Do you think she cheated on you?
28:42I'm not going to even touch anything with that.
28:45Yeah, and that's not what started the singularity.
28:47That's not a singularity either.
28:48Well, what do you think, Andy?
28:49I mean, you saw the little reports.
28:52That's an HR issue.
28:55Kyle and Amanda from Summer House recently defended Paige.
28:58You unfollowed Kyle and Amanda.
29:00Yeah, they said there was something
29:02wrong with how I've been handling being broken up with.
29:06Her cast commenting on how I'm grieving and that I'm sorry
29:10that I'm not reading Reddit every day
29:11and getting on there and defending her.
29:13Like, I never said you cheated.
29:16So I'm not a part of this.
29:19She broke up with me.
29:20I've protected her to the ends of the earth.
29:22But that ended the day that you cut me out of your life.
29:25The two of you have not spoken since your breakup.
29:27She won't answer.
29:28She won't answer?
29:29No, she's cut me completely off.
29:33Rose07 tweeted, women everywhere are going
29:37to be pursuing Craig so hard after seeing what
29:40an amazing boyfriend he was to Paige.
29:42Won't be long before he's walking down the aisle just
29:44saying, you haven't started dating yet, right?
29:47No.
29:48But we DM.
29:48I sent him.
29:49I'm like, hey.
29:51Yeah, she's been sending me girls, which is funny.
29:52And he's like, this is fun.
29:54The dating thing, I feel like, I know it sounds
29:57silly to the boys sometimes.
29:58But I feel like I just kind of want to be fully healed.
30:02And I think that's OK.
30:03You maybe seem a little relieved about not having
30:06to, like, cover for anything or?
30:10I'm really sad, but there's a lightness to it.
30:13I did a lot of living by myself.
30:15And in my head, I was like, one day we'll do this together.
30:19So I was in love with not reality.
30:21I was in love with the potential of what I thought we could be.
30:24And I think, yes, I was blinded by wanting
30:27to make it work, I guess.
30:33Coming up.
30:34Why continue on if I'm just going
30:36to get, like, backhanded for, like, stepping
30:39out of line or something?
30:40Yes.
30:44All right, let's stand by, guys.
30:46Rod, can I get a sip of that?
30:47Yes.
30:49When are you going to start screaming and yelling,
30:50you fucking asshole?
30:52It hasn't been my turn, dude.
30:53It's about to be, I guess.
30:54It is.
30:55All right, Andy, I'm sending it to you in three, two.
30:59Well, Craig and Paige may have dominated recent headlines,
31:03but the real love story of this show
31:05has always been between Craig, Shep, and Austin.
31:09However, this season was a rocky road.
31:13Last year when we were here, Shep was struggling,
31:16and the two of you were keeping him at arm's length.
31:20It sounds to me like you just don't see relationships
31:23the way I do.
31:24No, I think you fucked up, and you
31:26needed to never do that again.
31:28I've heard about some bad nights you've had since New York.
31:31I have. It hasn't been perfect.
31:32OK, so what?
31:33What do you think, I'm a masochist,
31:34and I'm going to keep sticking around?
31:37Craig has always been able to draw that line in the sand.
31:40I've never really been able to do that before with Shep,
31:43like, especially.
31:44He calls me, and even if I'm like, this motherfucker,
31:46like, I answer.
31:47And Craig's like, why do you do that to yourself?
31:49You're mad at him.
31:50It doesn't really, like, teach him a lesson
31:52not to talk like Shep's like a dog or something.
31:55But like, when we began the season,
31:57I was glad that we could all kind of go to Shep's hunting
32:00cabin and have that talk to get everything back on track.
32:04And then you saw it very quickly change.
32:06You and Shep had several conversations
32:08about how Craig wasn't making his friendships a priority.
32:11He's extremely wrapped up.
32:13Reclusive in Craig.
32:15I just feel like he's trying to curate an image.
32:18He's starring in his own commercial.
32:20How did it feel for you to hear your friends saying this?
32:22Incredibly insulting.
32:24I just never would have imagined in my wildest dreams
32:28that my friends would take it personally
32:30that I was working on myself.
32:32Where I come from, if you stop drinking alcohol,
32:36it's because you have a problem with alcohol.
32:38OK.
32:39To be fair, you know, when we got to the Bahamas,
32:41I realized that Austin never even crossed his mind.
32:43And that's my fault for, I guess, never sitting him down
32:45and talking to him about it.
32:46And I could have seen some signs, too,
32:49with, you know, your past, right, to maybe be like,
32:52oh, maybe he does have a problem with alcohol.
32:55But like, when I came to your house,
32:58it was purely out of like, Craig,
33:02I know that you've been busy.
33:03I miss my buddy.
33:04If I'm going to lunch, like, you're not on my phone call
33:06list.
33:07Like, if I'm going to get, like, a beer,
33:08you're not on my phone call list.
33:10But that's what you think.
33:13I was hoping that you would be like, look,
33:15maybe I have lost touch of my personal relationships.
33:18And instead, you, like, took it like I was just like,
33:22I don't really know how you took it.
33:24I just felt so, yeah, I felt blindsided.
33:26For like a week or something after that,
33:28and I was like, man.
33:30You know, and Shep even said to me,
33:31and he was like, watching the scene, he was like,
33:33I could just tell that you were nervous as shit.
33:35And you were like, oh, god, if I say something wrong,
33:37that Craig's going to bite my head off.
33:39And you kind of did.
33:40Can I ask you a question?
33:41Are you like, I don't want to say scared of him.
33:45I am terrified of Craig sometimes, yes.
33:47Is it his temper?
33:49It is most certainly his temper.
33:51You think you have a bad temper?
33:52I, yeah, I'm working on it.
33:54That's why I don't drink anymore.
33:55Is anyone else scared of him?
33:57Yes.
33:58Are you?
33:59Sometimes.
34:00I mean, in the Bahamas.
34:02What you said, Clayton.
34:03No, I didn't say what you said.
34:04What you said.
34:06I'm stressed.
34:07Yeah, I'm stressed.
34:08We don't have to rub it in, guys.
34:10I'm saying, like, I believe it.
34:12I had no idea that that's how you felt.
34:15There was a big reaction online to Paige making fun of Austin.
34:19What grown man goes over to another grown man's house
34:22crying that he misses them?
34:24Entity of Love tweeted, I don't like how Paige
34:27mocked Austin for being vulnerable with a friend.
34:29Do better, mean girl.
34:31Yeah, I thought that she'd be like, I love this.
34:34And, you know, you two needed to hug it out.
34:36Like, I thought that that would be the demeanor that she had.
34:39She's not a mean girl.
34:41She was just sticking up for me.
34:42Austin, you felt that Craig used the Pillows
34:44and Beer podcast as a weapon.
34:46What was up with you offering him $50,000 initially
34:50and then lowballing him?
34:52I offered somewhere between $35,000 to $50,000.
34:56Yeah, I'm just going to offer him $30,000 and see what he says.
34:59F*** you.
35:00But I wasn't that shocked, right?
35:02We're so bad at communicating with each other.
35:05We didn't know what to do anymore.
35:06Like, I was so frustrated at Austin because in my mind,
35:10I knew his goals.
35:11And in my mind, he wasn't doing the stuff
35:13that he needed to do to get there.
35:15Like, just how I changed my relationship with alcohol
35:17and my business started to do better,
35:19I can see it happening for him.
35:20Do you think his drinking is holding him back?
35:23He does not have a drinking problem.
35:25But you also said he showed up hungover
35:27for the Pillows and Beer podcast.
35:29I was shocked.
35:30That was wrong.
35:31With the podcast, he wouldn't show up.
35:33He'd be hungover or, like, zanied out
35:35or, like, just miserable, you know?
35:37Zanied out?
35:38Yeah, he was zanied out.
35:40Just to get it clear, I do not have a Xanax problem.
35:43Yes?
35:44No.
35:45Craig will say these things to make
35:47it look like I'm the problem, and it's not the truth at all.
35:52I, like, you know, posted something
35:53about, you know, getting mimosas with Audrey on a Sunday.
35:56And, you know, Craig, you're just like, you know,
35:58someone's in a party era.
36:00And you say, like, I don't want to go out anymore.
36:02I don't even think that I go out anymore.
36:04Like, I go get, you know, Margs, you know, with Rod,
36:06like, at Santee's, and, like, we're home by, like, 8 o'clock.
36:09Like, Madison said it to me the other day,
36:10and, like, it hit me like a ton of bricks.
36:12She was like, the bottom line is that Craig just
36:15does not, you know, respect you.
36:17And I was like, damn.
36:18That is true.
36:19Do you respect him?
36:23Yes.
36:25But it's just, for some reason, seeing Austin drink
36:29makes me mad.
36:30I know it does.
36:31I know.
36:32And I think it's weird.
36:33Well, so, Rodrigo, you hang out with Austin.
36:35Does he complain about getting judged by Craig?
36:38Yeah, all the time.
36:39You're just feeling like it's weird for him
36:40to be so judgmental.
36:41I'm not hurting anybody.
36:43Like, anybody here would go and have a drink.
36:45He feels like you think that you're better than him.
36:48And you treat him like you're better than him
36:50and like you're more successful than him.
36:52You're from, like, an ivory tower, man,
36:53sometimes, of, like, superiority.
36:56Let's see, this stuff makes me not want to hang out with him.
36:58But if he feels like you're looking
37:00at him from an ivory tower.
37:02Well, that's fucked up.
37:03And if he thinks that, like, then
37:04we don't need to hang anymore.
37:05Because if you think that I look down on you,
37:07you know that that's not my character.
37:09You just said that to your best friend who was trying
37:10to open up his heart to you.
37:11That is so rude.
37:12What?
37:13That's how I feel.
37:15OK.
37:16Like, if you think that I think that I'm better than you,
37:17then you shouldn't be friends with me.
37:19Craig, I'm battling with it.
37:21It's like what I'm trying to tell you.
37:24Why continue on if I'm just going to get, like,
37:27backhanded for, like, stepping out of the line or something?
37:30It's like a crazy concept that I don't have with anybody else.
37:33Yes.
37:34Yes.
37:35Yes.
37:36Yes.
37:37Yes.
37:37Yes.
37:38Yes.
37:39Yes.
37:40Yes.
37:41Yes.
37:41Yes.
37:42Yes.
37:43Yes.
37:44Yes.
37:45Yes.
37:45Yes.
37:46Yes.
37:47Yes.
37:48Yes.
37:49Yes.
37:49Yes.
37:50I can't control the way that you perceive my actions.
37:52Oh, that's not gaslighting.
37:54I know it's wrong to say, but, like, I know how I treat Austin.
37:57And like, I've been there for you.
37:58And I know how you would think.
37:59OK.
38:00OK.
38:01OK.
38:02OK.
38:03OK.
38:04OK.
38:04OK.
38:05OK.
38:06OK.
38:07OK.
38:08OK.
38:09OK.
38:10OK.
38:10OK.
38:11OK.
38:12OK.
38:13OK.
38:14OK.
38:15OK.
38:16OK.
38:17OK.
38:17OK.
38:18OK.
38:19OK.
38:20Guys, I mean, I'm hearing it.
38:22However, I feel like the conversation
38:24at the end of the year,
38:26I finally understood you better and you understood me better.
38:29Well, I want to talk about that.
38:31On the last night in the Bahamas,
38:33you admitted something really personal to Austin.
38:37Yeah, I have a problem with alcohol.
38:39I'm taking the van. I'm taking the van to the house.
38:41You're bitching about him.
38:43I'm taking the plane.
38:44Are you drunk?
38:45What was that, Chelsea?
38:46I think it was really brave and touching
38:49to hear you say you needed to stay on your couch
38:52to protect yourself.
38:53You said, leave my couch.
38:55I'm going to drink a bottle of Jager and do dumb s***.
38:58I just thought that was really powerful.
39:01So, first of all, kudos to you.
39:03Thanks.
39:04Well, it's weird to talk about, you know?
39:05Yeah.
39:06Yeah, but it shouldn't be.
39:07If you were to open up,
39:09this entire friend group would just, like,
39:11scoop you up and have your back.
39:12Yeah.
39:13I think you have a bit of an addictive personality
39:15where it's, like, all page or all this or all work.
39:17I think the universe put these two guys in your life
39:20to, like, allow you to have a little bit more balance.
39:24Your reaction to that conversation was what?
39:27My conversation with Craig in the Bahamas?
39:29Yes.
39:30Yeah, I mean, for him to open up to me,
39:34which, Lava, you can sit there and be like,
39:36you know, why don't you just say...
39:38It's harder for us, for some reason,
39:41to just, like, be completely open and vulnerable.
39:44So, when Craig decided to open up to me,
39:46it made me, like, emotional, right?
39:47Because there is a genuine care and love for Craig.
39:52I f***ing love you.
39:54So now you have a different relationship with alcohol,
39:57yet he's still terrified of you.
39:59Right, and I'm saying, like,
40:00it sucks that you guys think that about me,
40:03and I will work on it.
40:04I hear you, it's just unexpected.
40:07Well, so, Austin, maybe you need to
40:10be a little more communicative with him, you know?
40:14Yeah, I mean, I feel like I try to, like,
40:16keep the peace sometimes to a fault,
40:19and then it ends up biting me in the ass.
40:22What's your take on this?
40:23I just want them to make up and get back together, that's all.
40:26Yeah.
40:27At the end of the day, I know it'll happen, it's just...
40:29Well, clearly they love each other,
40:31and they're great together.
40:32You guys are super fun.
40:33You have a lot of affection for each other.
40:36You two are gonna go to dinner tonight,
40:38and you are not gonna judge him when he orders a martini.
40:41Maybe I'll have a celebratory beer with you.
40:43No, we're drinking N.A.
40:45Okay, I'll do that.
40:47Madison said, don't leave me.
40:49Yeah.
40:50Craig, anything you feel like we didn't address?
40:54I think, I hope not.
40:56Okay.
40:57I feel like I've received, no,
40:59I think I'm excited that we all live in Charleston together.
41:02I'm excited to be spending more time in Charleston now.
41:04You think next year when we're here,
41:06you'll have a girlfriend?
41:07I don't think you can plan that stuff.
41:10Austin, anything more you want to say to Craig?
41:13No, no, no, no.
41:14I feel like Craig has received it,
41:16and that we can just get back to our smiley, fun times.
41:19I hope so.
41:20JT, do you feel like you're gonna be able to repair
41:23any of your friendships within this group today?
41:27I do.
41:28I think there's definitely a lot of people here
41:30that I care about one day at a time.
41:32Vanita, where do you and JT go from here?
41:36Well, I mean, I can't do much.
41:37He's dating somebody.
41:38Yes.
41:39Do you feel cleaner with him at the end of the night
41:43than you did when you came in?
41:45I do.
41:46You do.
41:47You too, JT?
41:48Yeah, it's like a huge weight off of my shoulders.
41:50That's good.
41:51Shep, I feel like it's a tradition by now.
41:53I would love to give you the floor
41:55for some final thoughts, sir.
41:57I think I'd be remiss not to celebrate
42:00with all of you 10 seasons.
42:02For Craig and I, we had no idea this was gonna go this far.
42:07But to all of you, you are family to me.
42:11We only know things that a very small number of people know,
42:16whether it be feeling under the gun,
42:18dealing with online hatred, whatever it is.
42:21It's a very unique club that we're in,
42:23and so I hope that you feel warmth towards anybody
42:27who's been through it for the rest of your life,
42:30because I know I will.
42:31That's nice.
42:32Well, thank you.
42:33I want to thank all of you for another great season.
42:36I'm Andy Cohen.
42:37Thanks, and good night.
42:39Thanks, guys.
42:40Great job.
42:41Good job, Shep.
42:42That was good.
42:43You did it.
42:44Good job, Shep.
42:45I just came up with that.
42:46That was one of your better ones.