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00:00I have a bright image of a Kigami-san I see on TV, but I'm also a sensualist.
00:09How many books do you read a year?
00:12I read about 365 books in a year.
00:16What advice do you have for people who are in a difficult situation because they can't read?
00:21I think it's good to have a time to shut down.
00:27There are about 20,000 books I bought.
00:33I can't read all the books I bought.
00:36Akira Ikegami's special edition for 30 people who want to hear the story now.
00:42The person I want to hear the story now is Mr. Kaho Miyake, a literary critic of Kie.
00:47Thank you for your time today.
00:50Miyake, who grew up in Kochi Prefecture, graduated from Kyoto University's Faculty of Literature and moved to Kyoto University's Graduate School.
01:03While studying Manyoshu at the Graduate School, he worked as a manager at a bookstore in Kyoto.
01:10After that, he worked as a recruiter, but he left the company in a few years.
01:13The reason for leaving the company was that he ran out of time to read books.
01:17The book he challenged from his thoughts is a new book called Why I Can't Read Books When I'm Working.
01:24Miyake, who claims to be a literary geek, what kind of story can you hear?
01:31Thank you for your time today.
01:34Why I Can't Read Books When I'm Working.
01:37It really touched the hearts of the people who are working.
01:41That's right. I was surprised to see that there were so many people who thought they couldn't read books when they were working.
01:50That's why I got caught.
01:53I'm sorry to have you caught.
01:56No, no.
01:57I'm glad.
01:58The title of the book is often decided by the editor's suggestion and consultation with the author, right?
02:03How was it this time?
02:04This time, I thought about the title and title of the book myself.
02:08The title of the book is Why I Can't Read Books When I'm Working.
02:12I asked the editor to give me a plan that said,
02:15I want to talk about workers and readers.
02:19Is that so?
02:20Yes.
02:25What I want to ask Miyake is how fast you read a book,
02:29why you can't read a book when you're working,
02:32how you see the situation where you're leaving the book,
02:35and how to read a book while working.
02:41By the way, why did you like books in the first place?
02:45That's right.
02:46I've always liked writing since I was a kid,
02:50so I read a lot of books and manga.
02:54When I was in college, I joined the literature department and studied manga.
02:59I learned literature research and literature criticism there,
03:04so I was able to read more.
03:07While I was thinking,
03:09there are interesting authors like this,
03:11I became an adult before I knew it.
03:13I felt like a literature girl before I knew it.
03:17What I really liked when I was a kid was
03:19a book called Claudia's Secret by Kanigsberg.
03:24It's from the Iwanami Shonen Bunko.
03:27It's a great story about an American sister and brother
03:31going to a metropolitan art museum.
03:36It's a story about a sister who is a little mean,
03:42a little dirty,
03:44but a smart sister.
03:50In Japanese literature, the main character is a good person.
03:54That's right.
03:55I thought there were a lot of good people.
03:57I realized that there were books like this.
03:59I thought it was the same as my true feelings.
04:03I got a great sense of Japanese literature.
04:06I read a novel like this when I was a kid,
04:11and I remembered it.
04:13Did you feel a little mean to yourself?
04:16Yes, a lot.
04:18Did you feel like you were saved by reading that book?
04:20Yes, I did.
04:21At that time, I felt like I couldn't be a linguist.
04:26But since I was a kid, I didn't know many words.
04:30I didn't know what I was thinking.
04:34But reading the book gave me a sense of emotion.
04:39You just said some wonderful words.
04:42But since I didn't know many words, I couldn't speak many languages.
04:46By reading a book, I learned many languages and vocabulary.
04:51In the end, by reading a book,
04:56I was able to realize my feelings.
05:01That's the role of a book.
05:03That's right.
05:05If you don't know the vocabulary,
05:07you don't know what your feelings are.
05:11You don't know how to express your feelings.
05:14You don't know what you think about society.
05:17If you don't know what you think about society,
05:19you can feel relieved.
05:22Even so,
05:24you went to the literature club and got a job.
05:28Yes, I was a recruit.
05:30Did you quit it in two years?
05:32No, in three and a half years.
05:34Because you couldn't read the book?
05:37That's right.
05:39It costs money to buy a book.
05:44In a sense, I got a job to buy a book.
05:48I had a little money,
05:50but I realized I didn't have time to read a book.
05:54I thought I wanted more time to read a book.
05:57So I said I would quit my job.
06:00I understand your feelings.
06:02I was a poor student.
06:05I couldn't buy a book.
06:07I thought I would be able to buy a book when I became rich.
06:11Do you know that when I was a student,
06:13the price of a book in Iwanami Literature was displayed on a star?
06:17A star? I didn't know that.
06:19In Iwanami Literature,
06:21one star is 50 yen.
06:23Two stars are 100 yen.
06:25Three stars are 150 yen.
06:27That's a lot of money.
06:29That's a lot of money.
06:31It's like Michelangelo.
06:33It's Michelangelo now.
06:35I decided to read all the books.
06:37I started with one book.
06:39When I read a book about Chopin and Havel,
06:44I realized I couldn't get smarter.
06:49I read a book.
06:51I read a book that made me think about other people's ideas.
06:56I was shocked.
06:59I totally understand.
07:01When I was a student,
07:03I wrote a book called Meichō 50,
07:05which made my life go crazy.
07:07It was a book about Chopin.
07:09I'm doing this kind of work.
07:11In that book,
07:13I think it's common to say
07:15it's a book that makes your life better.
07:17Personally,
07:19I think a book that makes your life go crazy
07:21is a good book.
07:23I think it suits me.
07:25I think a book is a book that fights
07:31between the values of the author and the book.
07:37It's like a book that fights
07:39between the author's ideas and my ideas.
07:42I think it's a good exercise.
07:50That's amazing.
07:52When I read a book,
07:54I'm sure there's something good in it.
07:56I read it because I'm grateful.
07:58If it's different from my ideas,
08:00I think I'm wrong.
08:02It's a book that makes you fight.
08:04That's right.
08:06I like books that make me fight.
08:08How many books do you read a year?
08:16If I read a lot,
08:18it's about 365 books.
08:20It's about one book a day.
08:22I have a question for you.
08:24When you come across a boring book,
08:26you feel like you have to read it
08:28because you bought it.
08:30On the other hand,
08:32you feel like it's a waste of time
08:34to read such a boring book.
08:36How do you feel about that?
08:38I read it to the end
08:40and fight in my heart.
08:42I value that.
08:44For example,
08:46I read a book
08:48and talk about it
08:50even if I don't like it.
08:52Even if I don't understand
08:54what the book is about,
08:56it's interesting.
08:58So I read it to the end
09:00and fight in my heart.
09:02But I think it's important
09:04to recognize that
09:06the book is not interesting.
09:08I don't think it's too interesting.
09:10In that case,
09:12don't you analyze
09:14why the book is boring?
09:16I don't know.
09:18I have to analyze it.
09:20Sometimes,
09:22the book I don't like is popular.
09:24So I wonder
09:26why people say
09:28the book is interesting
09:30but I don't think so.
09:34The secret to creating
09:36a bestseller.
09:38Let's continue with Teletubbies.
09:42The next topic is
09:46work.
09:48Even if you work hard
09:50and change your way of working,
09:52when you go home,
09:54if you don't have the energy
09:56to read a book,
09:58it's meaningless.
10:00I think you should work hard
10:02and make a living.
10:04But after that,
10:06you should think about
10:08how to live a rich life
10:10in Japan.
10:12Even if I go home early,
10:14I watch TikTok
10:16and I realize
10:18that I've been doing this
10:20for 2 hours.
10:22I know.
10:24When I'm tired,
10:26I only look at my smartphone.
10:28It's strange.
10:30When you're tired,
10:32you have the energy
10:34to look at your smartphone.
10:36But reading a book
10:38requires you to be active.
10:40When you watch funny videos
10:42on your smartphone,
10:44you automatically watch them.
10:46That's the difference.
10:48I think the difference
10:50between smartphone information
10:52and reading a book
10:54is whether there is
10:56noise or not.
10:58I think smartphone information
11:00is the information
11:02that you want to access.
11:04For example,
11:06the SNS of the person
11:08you follow.
11:10I think there are many things
11:12that suit me.
11:14When I try to gain knowledge
11:16in a book,
11:18it teaches me
11:20what I want to know
11:22and the background language.
11:24For example,
11:26when I'm asked
11:28why I can't read a book
11:30when I'm working,
11:32I'm often told that
11:34the history of the Meiji era
11:36has begun.
11:38When I read a book,
11:40I find it interesting
11:42because I can't imagine
11:44the development
11:46or the knowledge I didn't know.
11:48But when I'm tired,
11:50I find it hard to accept
11:52the development
11:54that I can't imagine.
11:58When I went to the library
12:00when I was a university student,
12:02the teacher told me
12:04that reading a lot of books
12:06will make you happy.
12:08What does this mean?
12:10The teacher said
12:12that there are so many books
12:14that you can't read
12:16even if you spend your whole life reading them.
12:18I understood the meaning.
12:20I'm happy
12:22because there are
12:24so many books
12:26that I haven't read.
12:28On the other hand,
12:30I wonder how I can read
12:32books that I can't read
12:34even if I spend my whole life reading them.
12:36In my case,
12:38I can read
12:40about 20,000 books
12:42that I bought
12:44without going to the library.
12:46So I can't read
12:48all the books that I bought.
12:50I really wanted to ask you
12:52how you can read
12:54so many books.
13:00When I was working
13:02as a TV host,
13:04I was able to
13:06live a regular life.
13:08I read books
13:10on the train every morning and evening.
13:12It takes about
13:14two and a half hours to go and come back.
13:16I could read
13:18one new book.
13:20I read one book
13:22every day.
13:24When I became a freelancer,
13:26I thought I could read a lot of books.
13:28But as I started to work as a TV host,
13:30I couldn't read any more.
13:32Now, I teach at two universities
13:34in Nagoya.
13:36The reason is
13:38that I have to go to Nagoya
13:40every week.
13:42At that time, I can read books
13:44on the Shinkansen.
13:46Do you go to Nagoya for that?
13:48I'm sorry to the students
13:50of two universities in Nagoya.
13:52It was for reading books.
13:54I make time for reading books.
13:56In addition,
13:58Miyake-san is practicing
14:00the secret of reading books
14:02while working.
14:04It's like a time
14:06to shut down.
14:08Let's continue with Teletubbies.
14:10How many bookstores
14:12do you go to?
14:14I go to one bookstore every day.
14:16I go to two bookstores.
14:18When I was a member of NHK,
14:20I went to three bookstores
14:22every day.
14:24It's a bookstore
14:26in Ikigami.
14:28When I go there every day,
14:30I can see what's there.
14:32When I look at the shelves
14:34of the Shinkansen,
14:36I can see what's there.
14:38Sometimes,
14:40I ask the clerk
14:42where the books are.
14:44If the clerk doesn't know,
14:46I say,
14:48I have them there.
14:50You must be surprised
14:52when you ask the clerk
14:54where the books are.
14:56The clerk says,
14:58I'm wondering
15:00what I should do
15:02when I can't find a job.
15:04I can't believe
15:06that a bookstore
15:08offers a life consultation.
15:10I see.
15:12There are many interesting
15:14worlds in bookstores.
15:16When I was a student,
15:18there was a good bookstore
15:20in Kyoto.
15:22When I went there,
15:24I was told that
15:26I looked familiar.
15:28When I went there,
15:30I was told that
15:32today's sales will be good.
15:34I didn't know that.
15:36When I saw the first book,
15:38I was told that
15:40I looked familiar.
15:42Is it a big bookstore?
15:44Yes, it is.
15:46It's the best bookstore in Kyoto.
15:48I knew where the bookstore was
15:50just by listening to the story.
15:52After this,
15:54Mr. Honsuki had a deep talk.
15:56I was reading a book in secret.
15:58I was reading a book in secret.
16:00I was reading a book
16:02under a street light
16:04and a vending machine.
16:06It's a good way to understand
16:08that you read a book
16:10in a bookstore.
16:12It's the thing
16:14that doesn't work
16:16Akira Ikegami wants to hear the story of 30 people.
16:20Especially now, for example, when it comes to reading habits,
16:25if you do a survey of how many children are reading books,
16:3060% of people say that they haven't read a single book in a month.
16:37Looking around,
16:40I see a lot of friends who are literate, who used to read books when they were students,
16:45but now they say that they can't read when they start working.
16:49I think it's a problem for the whole country.
16:52That's why you came up with this book project.
16:57I was looking at my friends around me,
17:00and they were all saying that they couldn't read when they were working.
17:04I wrote a new book because I thought I had to listen to them and raise my voice.
17:09There was a saying,
17:11I live half-heartedly.
17:14I understand that you live half-heartedly,
17:16but I hear you say, don't work so much.
17:19That's right.
17:20Rather than saying, don't work,
17:23I want to affirm that I have interests other than work.
17:29For example, other than work,
17:31I think it would be better to value the time to read a book.
17:35That's what I'm trying to say.
17:37I have a job like this,
17:40so when I have an event,
17:42I have a lot of criticism.
17:44For example,
17:45I read a lot of novels that have nothing to do with work.
17:50As a social person, I wonder
17:52how I can enjoy reading books related to work.
17:56I get questions like that.
17:59In a sense,
18:00for example, novels about hobbies that have nothing to do with work
18:04go around in various places,
18:07and people in the company say,
18:09Oh, I read this kind of person in a novel.
18:12It leads to understanding.
18:14So I have to read books that are directly related to work.
18:18There are a lot of people who feel a little guilty
18:21when they do things directly related to work.
18:25I think it's okay to have time to dig into what you like.
18:31It's an encouragement.
18:33In the first place, things that are not useful for work
18:36are the real encouragement.
18:45However, when you join a company,
18:47you have a duty to focus on your work.
18:50I was also a reporter specializing in murder cases
18:53when I was in the company.
18:56So when I have time until the press conference,
18:59when I'm waiting,
19:01when I'm reading a book,
19:03my seniors get angry at me.
19:05They say, What are you reading?
19:07I understand.
19:08When I'm reading a book,
19:10I feel like I'm skipping a lot.
19:12Even if I touch my smartphone while eating,
19:15everyone doesn't say anything,
19:17but when I'm reading a book while eating,
19:19I stand out a lot.
19:20Why is that?
19:21That's what they say.
19:23So I was reading a book in secret.
19:25You were reading a book in secret.
19:27Where did you read it?
19:29For example, the staff is in charge of interrogation during the day.
19:34They come back at night.
19:36They usually come back by the last train.
19:41So they wait in front of the house every night.
19:45It's hard.
19:47At that time, they have a lot of things in their hands.
19:50For example, under the streetlight of the house,
19:52under the light of the vending machine.
19:55You were reading there.
19:57It's too hard.
19:59It's not the era of construction.
20:01It's not just the light of the firefly and the light of the snow.
20:04You were reading in the tradition of waiting.
20:07Yes, I was reading.
20:09What I wanted to ask you was,
20:11your first book was called
20:13The Life-Changing Meichō 50.
20:15Is there a book that has changed your life?
20:19When I was in high school...
20:21What is the book that has changed your life?
20:26I think the Trump Revolution has begun.
20:29So when it gets interesting,
20:31I feel like it's about time for the real thing.
20:34The real thing?
20:36What is the book that has changed your life?
20:41When I was in high school,
20:43I was reading Shibata Shō's
20:46You don't know it, do you?
20:48No, I don't.
20:50Shibata Shō is a series of so-called frustration literature.
20:55You don't know Rokuzenkyo?
20:57Ah, but I've heard of it.
20:59Do you know it?
21:01The 6th National Competition of the Japanese Communist Party.
21:03They said that they would stop all the armed struggle until then
21:05and become a peaceful route.
21:07Until then, all the people who had worked hard for the Communist Party
21:09were frustrated.
21:11There is such frustration in life.
21:14I was drawn to such things as high school students.
21:17Eventually, I was drawn to books like Parutai by Kurahashi Miko.
21:24It's good.
21:25It was a dark time when I was a young boy.
21:28I read Ikkegami's new book.
21:32I saw Ikkegami's bright image on TV.
21:36But I thought he was obviously a dark war historian.
21:40I was wondering what kind of person he was.
21:43I'm very convinced.
21:45That's my true nature.
21:48I'm hiding myself now.
21:55When I appear on TV, I have to act like a good person.
22:03We also introduce the recommended books for two people who like books.
22:06That's a new book, and it was very interesting.
22:10This program is broadcast on TVE.
22:15And in the latest episode,
22:18I will talk about the world in which President Trump is shaking.
22:21How does President Trump change the world order so far?
22:25I'm going to talk to the titans of Japan and France,
22:28Mr. Masaru Sato and Mr. Tottoshi Emanuel.
22:31First of all, I would like to hear from Mr. Masaru Sato,
22:34who is a former foreign minister and writer.
22:37I'm Masaru Sato. Nice to meet you.
22:40Mr. Masaru Sato, a writer, is here for the second time.
22:44President Trump is in the news every day.
22:47How do you feel about that?
22:49It's getting more and more interesting.
22:51I feel like it's time to get serious.
22:54The Trump Revolution has begun in earnest.
22:57Trump is a genius at cognitive warfare.
23:01First of all, he surprises people.
23:03He says something unbelievable.
23:05And then he makes a mess of it.
23:07If you say it normally,
23:09it's a story that no one can accept.
23:12He's a king.
23:14But recently, he was elected to the throne.
23:17That's why he's the king,
23:19so he's in control of other countries.
23:21Because he's not a king.
23:23Oh, I see.
23:25Everyone, the United States of America.
23:28It's the 51st week.
23:31If you go with that scenario,
23:34Bonjour.
23:35Bonjour.
23:36In addition, the titan of France,
23:40Emmanuel Todd, is also interviewed urgently.
23:43What do you think about President Trump's
23:45actions aimed at attacking the people?
23:50I think this is the problem with the Trump administration.
23:56Just as Japan once allied with Germany,
24:00it has once again allied with a country
24:04that is falling into a barbaric path.
24:08What is the future of Japan and the world
24:10that the two titans of land speak of?
24:13Next week, we will broadcast it on Teletubbies.
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