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00:00TALK WINS
00:02Tonight's guest is...
00:09The man who has a human body,
00:12the best bodybuilder in Japan,
00:14Mr. Naotaka Yokokawa.
00:17He's usually played around as a youngster in variety shows,
00:22but in fact, in just 5 years of his training,
00:25he's the best in Japan.
00:27In his career, he's been in the bodybuilding world for 100 years,
00:32and he's been praised by legends all over the world
00:35for being the god of muscles.
00:37He's a true genius.
00:40Since he became the best in Japan this year,
00:43he's announced that he'll be back in the tournament for the first time in 6 years.
00:46His goal is...
00:49to aim for the world's highest tournament, Mr. Olympia.
00:54Where's your shoulder?
00:57Now is the time to build up your muscles,
01:00so there's a lot of change in his looks.
01:04Wow!
01:06What's going on?
01:08What's going on?
01:10What's going on?
01:12You look like you don't know what's going on.
01:14You look like you don't know what's going on.
01:15You look like you don't know what's going on.
01:16You look like you don't know what's going on.
01:18Compared to 6 years ago when he became the best in Japan,
01:21his weight has increased by 100kg.
01:24And his thighs have increased by 80cm, just like his waist.
01:30Let's interview a man who's challenging himself to a higher level.
01:35I'm still not satisfied with my body.
01:38I'm still not satisfied with my body.
01:41Above all, he prioritizes his muscles.
01:43He lives a life full of muscles.
01:46His love life and daily life are full of failures.
01:50What's the difference between you and Yoko Kawa?
01:55Charisma?
01:56Charisma?
01:57I knew it.
01:59I think so, but I'm getting a little irritated.
02:01I'm sure you are.
02:04I'm good at building up my muscles.
02:07I can feel it when you say,
02:09I can feel it when you say,
02:10I can feel it.
02:11I can feel it.
02:12I can feel it.
02:13I can feel it.
02:14I can feel it.
02:15I'm Naotaka Yokokawa, your guest today.
02:18Nice to meet you.
02:20You're my best friend.
02:21Best friend.
02:23Best friend of my junior.
02:25I thought you were a best friend.
02:26I'm not a best friend, but I saw your Instagram story.
02:29You said you're building up your muscles.
02:32I knew you were getting bigger, but I didn't know you were this big.
02:35I haven't seen you since I got this size.
02:37I haven't seen you since I got this size.
02:38How much do you weigh now?
02:39I weigh about 100kg.
02:41100kg?
02:43I've never seen a 100kg person with muscles.
02:46I've seen people without muscles.
02:49I'm sorry.
02:50I'm 120kg.
02:51120kg?
02:52120kg?
02:54Yokokawa is in the middle of building up his muscles for the world.
03:03When we interview such a stoic Japanese bodybuilder,
03:09His life was full of failures because he was too muscular.
03:16First of all, everything is about muscles.
03:19Let's start with the shocking menu.
03:22How much do you eat?
03:23I only eat white rice, beef, chicken, and eggs.
03:29I only eat three meals a day.
03:39You said you don't eat at all.
03:43I don't eat at all.
03:44I'm a vegetarian.
03:47I don't eat because I'm hungry.
03:50I'm building up my muscles.
03:54I don't care if I feel delicious.
04:00Yokokawa eats only to build up his muscles.
04:06I asked Murashige, who is a close friend of Yokokawa.
04:13When I eat rice with protein, I say,
04:17This is protein.
04:20It's noisy.
04:22When I eat chicken breast, I say,
04:24Chicken breast is good for muscles.
04:28I don't live on the basis of muscles.
04:31I don't eat rice when I'm on a diet.
04:35When I'm on a diet, I eat a whole salmon.
04:43I think it's hard to live.
04:45What do you mean by a whole salmon?
04:47She is a fool.
04:50Do you know how much protein is in each meal?
04:55I can tell by looking at it.
04:59Don't you miss the taste?
05:03I don't think so.
05:06Do you sprinkle salt?
05:07I sprinkle salt and pepper.
05:09Is that all?
05:10That's basically it.
05:11Do you eat rice with that?
05:12I eat rice.
05:13Don't you gain weight?
05:14I don't need to gain weight.
05:17I just need to get into my body and reach my muscles.
05:19You're a vegetarian.
05:20I just need to reach my muscles.
05:22What do you say when you eat?
05:27I say, the taste is strong.
05:32I usually eat only salt and pepper.
05:34When I eat something else, I think the taste is strong.
05:38Do you eat normally when you eat rice?
05:40I eat normally.
05:42I drink a lot of alcohol.
05:45I drink the most alcohol in the world.
05:48That's amazing.
05:50Isn't it hard for you now?
05:52I don't think I'll do that if I switch on my phone.
05:57I'm totally fine now.
06:00He's not only good at the menu, but he's also good at eating.
06:07I often hear that you need to eat a lot of protein.
06:12I eat once every three hours.
06:17When I can't eat, I eat protein.
06:22I don't want my body to be short of amino acids.
06:28I feel like I don't have amino acids now.
06:32How do you feel?
06:33I think you're hungry.
06:38I don't feel like I'm hungry.
06:41I feel like I have amino acids.
06:45If I don't have amino acids, I can't speak.
06:48I'm clearly in a bad mood.
06:51Now that you've been filming for a long time, do you want to eat protein?
06:56I drink protein.
06:58I used to drink protein when I was filming.
07:01I was hit by HAWASI.
07:04It's a waste of time.
07:07Do you drink water under your feet as protein?
07:10I have protein.
07:13If I want to drink it, I'll drink it.
07:16Don't do that.
07:18You're going somewhere, aren't you?
07:21You can leave it here.
07:24I'm going to drink it.
07:28That's what I'm worried about.
07:31If it's for muscle, it doesn't matter if it's a recording.
07:34Mr. YOKOKAWA, who has a strong desire for muscle.
07:38Your neck is thin, too.
07:40It's very thin.
07:43Six years ago, he gained a lot of muscle.
07:46Now he's challenging the world.
07:48He's evolving into the best body in the past.
07:52I interviewed a man who was too stoic.
07:57He lived a hard life for his muscles.
08:02What do you do in the morning?
08:06I wake up late when I don't have work.
08:10I sleep until 1 a.m.
08:13I wake up and eat.
08:15I start training at 4 a.m.
08:18I spend more than four hours in the gym.
08:22Really?
08:24For example, I train my chest.
08:27I train my chest for a long time.
08:33Do you do it every day?
08:35Yes, every day.
08:38There are nine types of training for a man who aims for the world.
08:44There are 11 types of training for the back.
08:48There are 15 types of training for the legs.
08:52There are more than 50 types of training for a man.
08:57He trains for four hours a day for a week.
09:01I go home and eat at 9 a.m.
09:04I eat again at 12 p.m.
09:08Do you ever feel tired?
09:12Training is a part of my life.
09:16If I don't do it, I feel sick.
09:19If I don't do it, I feel like I want to forget about training.
09:26That's disgusting.
09:30I'm not satisfied with my body.
09:34I wasn't satisfied when I became the best in Japan.
09:37I'm not satisfied with my body.
09:40I've been like this since I started training.
09:43That's cool.
09:44What is the difference between a man who wants to be big and a man who wants to be small?
09:54Charisma?
09:58I think so, but it's annoying.
10:02I'm sorry I didn't say that.
10:05I train twice as much as other people.
10:10Your body will break if you do that.
10:12My body will break if I do that.
10:15Many people give up because they can't do it mentally.
10:19But I can do it.
10:21I think that's why I'm bigger than other people.
10:26What's your body fat percentage?
10:29I haven't measured it yet, but I think I have a lot of fat.
10:36I think I'm in the top 20.
10:40How much fat do you lose?
10:43I lose as much as I can't measure when I enter a tournament.
10:48You can't measure it with a machine?
10:50Yes.
10:52I make mistakes when I enter a tournament.
10:57That's scary.
11:00I think I can enter a tournament if I do that.
11:03It's okay if you make mistakes.
11:05That's right.
11:07I was impressed when I touched you when you were the best in Japan.
11:12My legs were shaking.
11:14That's scary.
11:16What kind of system is that?
11:19I can do it now.
11:21That's scary.
11:23Tell me what you're talking about.
11:26I'll try it.
11:28Is that okay?
11:30Are you going to take it off?
11:32I won't take it off.
11:34Tell me what's going on.
11:37I put my feet in the ground and my muscles came out.
11:42My muscles were shaking.
11:45I dropped it.
11:48That's amazing.
11:51That's amazing.
11:53That's amazing.
11:55That's amazing.
11:58By the way, this is MAX's condition.
12:01By the way, this is MAX's condition.
12:04This is it.
12:06This is it.
12:08It's transformed.
12:10That's amazing.
12:12I'm curious.
12:14If you have that much muscle, do you feel it when you do this?
12:18I do.
12:20I do.
12:22Why do you think so?
12:25Mr. Yokokawa is the best bodybuilder in Japan.
12:31The reason why he was aiming for the top was a surprising reason.
12:36I didn't want to be like this at first.
12:40At first, I wanted to be popular.
12:44But women in the world like thin guys.
12:49I know thin guys are good.
12:53But when I realized it, I was like this.
12:56I couldn't take it anymore.
12:58I couldn't go back to being a man.
13:01I wanted to go back to being a human being.
13:06I'm sad.
13:08I want to be a human being.
13:11He started to be popular, but he was too muscular.
13:15He made a lot of mistakes in love.
13:18I want to be nutritious all day.
13:22When I go on a date, I make a lunch box and bring it to her.
13:27What do you think?
13:29When I have time, I go to the park.
13:33When I go to the gym, I eat white rice.
13:40What did she say to you?
13:44At first, she laughed at me.
13:47But I think I'm getting more and more muscular.
13:52She said, which is more important, me or muscle?
13:58I didn't know that.
14:00She said that for the first time.
14:02It's a long story, isn't it?
14:06Yes, it is.
14:08When I looked at the clock, I was injured for 3 hours.
14:13I couldn't stop wanting her.
14:17When I was angry, I raised my hand.
14:19I said, excuse me.
14:21Can I drink protein?
14:24I understand.
14:26What do you think about the movie theater?
14:29I bring protein to the movie theater.
14:31Of course.
14:33When I want to drink protein, I go out and drink it.
14:40You didn't tell her the story, did you?
14:44No, I didn't.
14:4530 minutes before the movie started, I thought I had to lose weight.
14:49That's why I didn't tell her the story.
14:52I said, protein, protein, protein.
14:55When I came back from drinking protein,
14:58I said, I stopped eating protein.
15:00I was so happy that I was sleepy.
15:02Whether it's a dating or a breakup,
15:05Mr. Okakawa is a muscular man.
15:09And he is very particular about protein.
15:14There was a time when I was tired of absorbing protein from my mouth.
15:21I decided to absorb protein from my skin.
15:24Let me ask you a question.
15:26I put protein in my bath.
15:30You put protein in your bath?
15:33I put protein in my bath.
15:35What does that mean?
15:37There was a teacher who knew a lot about biology.
15:41He said it was meaningless.
15:43He couldn't absorb protein.
15:47I can understand that.
15:49He said, it's over because it's in my pores.
15:51It's not good for your health.
15:53I don't like it.
15:55He said, it's over because it's in my pores.
15:59He said it's over because it's in my pores.
16:01He said it's over because it's in my pores.
16:03Do you realize it's over?
16:05I realize it's over.
16:07I realize it's over, but I can't control it.
16:09That's right.
16:10I know I'll be dumped if I say that.
16:15But I can't stop myself from doing this.
16:18You think it's okay to be dumped.
16:21I cried a lot after I was dumped.
16:25He cried a lot.
16:28How old are you?
16:30Are you an elementary school student?
16:32How old are you?
16:34He cried a lot.
16:35I thought he was lying down inside his head.
16:41I didn't know it.
16:43Why didn't you know it?
16:45I might not make it in research, but I might make it.
16:48That's charisma.
16:51You might not make it in research, but you might make it.
16:57I believe it.
16:59He's positive.
17:00Because he wanted to be popular with women, he used his muscles to lose her.
17:10When he asked her if she would prefer a stoic woman,
17:17she gave him a shocking answer.
17:20Do you want to work out together?
17:23No, I don't.
17:25You don't want to?
17:26Not at all.
17:28I don't want to. Not only when I work out.
17:30I used to be like that.
17:32But now I can't see a woman working so hard.
17:39That's the worst.
17:41What?
17:42I can't see it.
17:44When I was in elementary school, I was the cutest kid in the school.
17:50But now I can't see a woman running 50 meters.
17:54Why?
17:56I don't think women are my ideal type.
18:00I don't want to be looked at.
18:02When I see a woman working so hard, I can't stand it.
18:10So you don't want to be looked at when you work out?
18:16Of course I want to be looked at, but I don't look at their faces.
18:20What?
18:21I don't look at their faces.
18:22So you can't teach them?
18:24I can teach them, but I don't look at their faces.
18:27What?
18:30I don't understand.
18:32But there are a lot of times when you look at her and you can't stand it.
18:37So I want you to look at her when she's working so hard.
18:42But I have a statue of a woman in my house.
18:49A statue?
18:52I'm scared.
18:53Take your time and think about it.
18:57You just said something scary.
18:59I said I have a statue of a woman in my house.
19:03That's not true.
19:05What did you say?
19:07Are you okay?
19:09Are you okay?
19:11Are you okay?
19:13I'm in a bad mood.
19:14I'm sure that's not enough.
19:17I don't have enough nutrition.
19:18What was that?
19:20I drank it all.
19:22Are you okay?
19:24It's wet.
19:25It's wet.
19:27Are you okay?
19:28Yes.
19:29In your head?
19:31Yes, so?
19:34What did you say?
19:36You should have said it before you drank it.
19:39Not yet.
19:40Yes, so?
19:42Before you drank it.
19:43What did you say?
19:44You have a statue of a woman in your house, right?
19:47Yes.
19:48I don't want you to break it.
19:49I don't want to break it.
19:51I don't want to break it.
19:52For example, you don't want her to be muscular.
19:56I don't care about that.
19:58That's good.
19:59But I don't want her to look like that.
20:02Like this?
20:04Yes, I don't want her to look like that.
20:06I don't want her to be desperate.
20:08I see.
20:09I think a little bit of a look is better.
20:12I don't want to look like a pervert.
20:14I don't want to look like a pervert.
20:16What else do you want her to do?
20:18For example, you want her to run on the train.
20:22But I don't want her to look like that.
20:26I don't want that.
20:28I don't want her to look like a pervert.
20:32I don't want that.
20:33I don't want that.
20:34I don't want that.
20:35I don't want that.
20:36I don't want that.
20:37Mr. Yokokawashi couldn't date because of his muscular body.
20:43And he has a muscular body beyond a human body.
20:49And he has a life-threatening situation in his daily life.
20:54I was locked up in a room.
20:56And I was about to die.
20:59And I woke up in the middle of the night.
21:02That's terrible.
21:03And I was about to die.
21:07That's terrible. I can't pay for this.
21:10That's terrible.
21:11That's terrible.
21:13That's terrible.
21:19Mr. Yokokawashi has a muscular body beyond a human body.
21:24And he has a life-threatening situation in his daily life.
21:30It's hard to live.
21:32It's hard to live.
21:35It's hard to wear socks.
21:39For example, when I have muscle pain in my legs,
21:42or when I have a hard time in front of the mirror,
21:45I can't reach it.
21:47So I don't wear socks.
21:51I may not be able to do it in a normal human life.
21:55What do you mean?
21:56When my shoulder muscles get bigger,
21:59when I sleep sideways,
22:02I don't have enough pillow height.
22:05I see.
22:06That's what happens.
22:08But I have a long neck.
22:11So when I have a pillow, my neck is like this.
22:15You need a high pillow.
22:17That's right.
22:18It's impossible.
22:19So I can't sleep sideways.
22:22And I was about to die.
22:25And I woke up in the middle of the night.
22:27That's dangerous.
22:28You can't sleep sideways.
22:30You can't sleep sideways.
22:32In Japan, you can't sleep sideways.
22:34So you look up.
22:36But when you're sleeping,
22:38for example, when you look sideways,
22:41the muscles of your shoulders
22:43and your neck get tight.
22:47It's really tight.
22:49It gets tighter and tighter.
22:52When you're about to die,
22:54you wake up.
22:58What if you don't wake up?
23:00That's dangerous.
23:01If you don't wake up, you just go to sleep.
23:03Is that common?
23:05Do bodybuilders go to sleep?
23:09I've heard of it.
23:12I've heard that people with big shoulders
23:14sleep like that.
23:16It's all the same.
23:17I can't wear socks.
23:18I can't sleep.
23:19I sleep on my shoulders.
23:23It's all the same.
23:24It's all the same.
23:25It's all the same except for training.
23:28Everything is different.
23:30Is it different?
23:31I can't wash my back.
23:35You can't reach it.
23:36I can't reach it.
23:37That's pretty tough.
23:39What do you do when you have a cold?
23:41I put body soap on the wall of the bathroom.
23:50And I wipe it like this.
23:52That's a lot of work.
23:54That's a lot of work.
23:56It's okay if it's too red.
23:58If I do this, my skin will hurt.
24:02Is that a sensitive skin?
24:03That's a sensitive skin.
24:05Your skin won't get stronger.
24:06It gets rough easily.
24:09Is it easy to get sick?
24:11It gets worse.
24:13It gets better.
24:14Does that mean your immune system gets weaker?
24:16That's right.
24:17The harder you train, the weaker your immune system gets.
24:20Why?
24:22Because you're focusing on your body.
24:24You're using more energy than your limit.
24:27When you're done, your immune system doesn't work at all.
24:31Because you're tired.
24:32I don't know, but I think you should wear a jacket.
24:36It's cold.
24:37There's a possibility that it's cold.
24:39It's cold.
24:40Is it hot or cold now?
24:42Now?
24:43It's cold now.
24:44It's not cold.
24:45You should wear a jacket.
24:46Bring me a blanket.
24:48It's cold.
24:49It's okay.
24:51Yokokawa always gets teased in variety shows.
24:55He has won many competitions so far.
25:02Let's ask him why he's the top bodybuilder.
25:07It's a fact that he's so muscular that it's beyond our imagination.
25:13Don't you get a prize money at competitions?
25:17I've never won a prize money.
25:19Zero yen?
25:20Zero yen.
25:21Why?
25:23I won the first place in Japan and got 3kg of protein.
25:26You got 3kg of protein.
25:28I got what I always drink and that's it.
25:31Do you still prioritize muscle?
25:34Yes.
25:35If I lose muscle, I don't have anything left.
25:38I don't think so.
25:40I don't have anything.
25:41I'm just a woman who has a debt.
25:44You have a debt?
25:46Yes, I have a debt.
25:48How much debt do you have now?
25:51Now?
25:52I don't think I have more than 500.
25:56What?
25:58Are you kidding me?
25:59I heard that you moved to a tower apartment.
26:03I thought you moved to a better place.
26:06But you moved to a different place.
26:08I see.
26:09I couldn't do anything so I moved back to my parents' house.
26:13Do you live there now?
26:14How many people live there?
26:15I moved from my parents' house.
26:16I see.
26:17I have a friend who lives in the same tower apartment as me.
26:20He said this apartment is really popular.
26:22What do you mean?
26:23He said this apartment is really popular.
26:26But the rent is very expensive.
26:29I see.
26:30The rent is very expensive.
26:32But I wanted to be popular so I bought it.
26:34I decided to move there.
26:36I thought I could do something if I tried hard.
26:40So I moved there.
26:41But I couldn't pay the rent for the first month.
26:45I didn't have enough money.
26:48So I borrowed money.
26:50You borrowed money.
26:51I borrowed money.
26:52And I bought a Nintendo Switch.
26:55You must have been scared.
26:57Are you going to be rich?
26:59I'm going to be healthy.
27:01Mr. Yokokawa lived in a tower apartment until he was in debt.
27:07He was in debt?
27:08It seems that he has a habit of spending a lot of money.
27:13I spend a lot of money.
27:16If I don't have enough money, I borrow money from the consumer.
27:19That's strange.
27:20No, no, no.
27:21Do you want to borrow money?
27:24Yes, I do.
27:25I definitely borrow money from women.
27:28I don't want to show my money.
27:31I see.
27:32I lived with Ms. Sasahara.
27:36Really?
27:37Did Mr. Yokokawa lend you money?
27:41Yes, he did.
27:43I didn't know that.
27:44But you're in debt.
27:46I can't give up my money.
27:49Actually, when we were drinking, I was the oldest.
27:55So I paid the rent secretly.
27:57I said, I'm going home.
27:58Mr. Yokokawa came to the entrance.
28:02He said, Ms. Sasahara, did you pay the rent?
28:04He was looking at me.
28:06I said, it's okay.
28:07I'm older than you, so it's okay.
28:09But he took more money than I paid and put it in his pocket.
28:15I said, it's okay.
28:17He said, it's a taxi fare, so you can go home.
28:20I was there for five minutes.
28:23It's a long time to take a taxi.
28:26I didn't know this situation.
28:28You're in debt.
28:30That's right.
28:31That's right.
28:33It's not an old story.
28:35You're in debt now.
28:37It's like an old story.
28:39Do you want to treat her even if you go home?
28:41Yes, I do.
28:43I treat my juniors and women every time.
28:48But when I go home and see my wallet, it's empty.
28:53I cry a lot.
28:57But at that time, I feel alive.
29:01What do you mean?
29:03Wait a minute.
29:04Are you excited?
29:05Maybe I'm excited.
29:06I feel alive.
29:08You're alive.
29:09I'm alive.
29:10If I wasn't alive, I wouldn't cry like this.
29:13Wait a minute.
29:14Why don't you cry about something else?
29:16That's life.
29:17Like frustration?
29:18No, no, no.
29:19You're usually over-chasing, aren't you?
29:22I think I can feel it.
29:24I don't have any money, so I can't pay my rent this month.
29:27But when I have to pay it in a few days, I get excited.
29:32Oh, my god.
29:34Oh, my god. I can't pay my rent.
29:36Oh, my god.
29:37Oh, my god.
29:38Oh, my god.
29:39I'm so excited.
29:41You can't do that.
29:43You can't pay your rent, right?
29:45I can't.
29:46You can't.
29:47You can't.
29:48But I'm worried.
29:49Even if you become the best in Japan, you don't have a prize.
29:53Well, yeah.
29:55What if you become the best in the world?
29:57I think I'll have tens of millions of yen.
30:01You can do it.
30:02You can do it.
30:03You have to become the best in the world.
30:05You can do it.
30:06You still have a chance.
30:09If you get tens of millions of yen, you'll pay your rent, right?
30:12Yes.
30:13What are you going to do with the rest?
30:15I'm doing bodybuilding because I'm bothering a lot of people.
30:18I see.
30:19If I get money, my selfishness is over.
30:24I want to use it for other people.
30:26I see.
30:27I'll do it until then.
30:29I don't know why, but I was moved.
30:31But now I have 5 million yen in debt.
30:34You still have a chance.
30:35You still have a chance.
30:36You still have a chance.
30:38After this.
30:39I didn't have a remote control.
30:41I don't know why, but I put it in the microwave.
30:43Why?
30:44I don't know why, but I put it in the microwave.
30:45I'm sure.
30:46He made an unbelievable mistake.
30:49He was a man of many faults.
30:54I was going to buy milk.
30:56I went to the convenience store and saw Tomoyama-kun.
30:59I ended up going back without buying milk.
31:02Nagao, a man of many faults, was a man of many faults.
31:07I drank the lid of the bottle and threw away the liquid inside.
31:12At midnight.
31:13I can't pay the rent.
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