During an event with Gov. Brad Little (R-ID) in the Idaho State Capitol in Boise, Idaho on Monday, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) spoke about Elon Musk’s vision with DOGE and potentially codifying spending cuts into law.
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00:00I'm not sure about that, but I think the questions were excellent.
00:03I mean, these are clearly legislators that are thinking very deeply, not just about the
00:08issues confronting Idaho, but the future of the country.
00:11And you know, I think we're in similar boats, just like our states have had success.
00:16That's great.
00:17But we're also we're all Americans here, and we want the country to succeed.
00:22And I've got four, six, I have a four, six and an eight year old at home.
00:27I know most of the legislators have kids and grandkids.
00:29You start thinking about what does that future look like 20 years from what are we going
00:33to be 75 trillion in debt?
00:35How do you how do you square this circle?
00:38And so I just think people are really concerned about the future of the country.
00:41I think they asked all the right questions.
00:43I think they're thinking very, very deeply about it.
00:46And I do think the fact like if you just had the balanced budget vote separately, seems
00:51like there would be probably more support than than the package that wasn't able to
00:55get the votes the other day.
00:56Yes.
00:57What's the promise of Doge?
01:00And then, for example, if you try to give a billion dollars, a billion dollars back
01:05to the federal government, and couldn't even figure out how to do it.
01:10Now you've met with Elon Musk, it's going to happen.
01:13Talk about the promise of Doge and just that example of how messed up things are going
01:17to be.
01:18So just for what he's referring to, during the Biden administration, we rejected federal
01:23funds on a variety of things because they had strings attached.
01:27So some of the road funding, we had to do all the DEI and woke policies, which are totally
01:32contrary to our state's policy.
01:34We had kind of led the fight against that stuff.
01:36Now it's more fashionable to be against it when we were doing it.
01:39We were kind of having an uphill battle.
01:41So so we did it.
01:42And we told the Department of Transportation and the Biden administration, here's 350 million
01:47or however much it is.
01:48We're not using it.
01:49And they're like, we don't know we don't know how to take it back.
01:52They literally did not know how to take back the money.
01:54Same thing on refugee money to send back, I believe, to HHS, they didn't do.
01:59So I'm like sitting on almost $900 million.
02:02We're not going to accept it because we're not going to change our behavior.
02:06So let's send it back and be part of the Doge efforts.
02:09So we went up and met with Elon on Friday in Washington.
02:12And he had one of his lieutenants there.
02:15And they were just like, you want to give back money like, yeah, we'll accept it.
02:19They got on the phone to Treasury.
02:21And like, within like 30 minutes, we had a plan to do it.
02:24And so we have initiated that.
02:27And so what's the promise of Doge generally, I think there's a lot of promise.
02:32I think when you see some of the spending that's happened, nobody justifies some of
02:38the grants that have been going out on some of these things.
02:41It was clearly taking taxpayer money and using it to push an ideological agenda was not about
02:47serving the interests of the country or what's in the public's interest.
02:51It was an ideological niche interest.
02:53And basically, these agencies had been taken captive by this viewpoint and used your money
03:00for that.
03:01So I think it's been great to expose.
03:02Here I think is the challenge, though.
03:05We're here talking about a balanced budget amendment because Congress won't change its
03:08behavior.
03:09Elon, and they're using a lot of savvy tech and all this stuff, are showing how the government
03:15mismanages money, but also just substantively, should government spend it on this?
03:21Because people have voted to do this in Congress for many years.
03:24Why are they doing it?
03:25How do you justify it?
03:27So you're running into kind of the momentum that Elon has with Doge with the fact that
03:32Congress has not been willing to change its behavior, right?
03:36So the most recent continuing resolution that the Republicans passed in the House funds
03:42everything that Elon had pointed out.
03:44It didn't change any spending from the Biden.
03:47In fact, that's a continuation of Biden's last year as president, basically, to do this
03:51continuing resolution.
03:52Now, what Elon will say is, well, they're not going to let these grants go out.
03:55And I think that's true.
03:57But ultimately, if Congress is appropriating the money, at some point, it's going to come
04:02to a head.
04:03Maybe you don't have to do a certain grant, but can you just impound everything?
04:07That's going to end up in court.
04:08There's a law on that.
04:10The solution is, if Elon's doing this, Congress should codify the Doge cuts in the law.
04:19There's no question Congress can do that.
04:22They have the power of the purse.
04:24But when you do continuing resolutions, that's just government on autopilot.
04:27So some people say, how could someone have said to do this?
04:31You know, Fauci, I was very upset at some of the things Fauci was doing over the years,
04:38including these cruel experiments on these beagle puppies.
04:41Like how did that end up happening?
04:43You know, a lot of, I'm a dog owner, a lot of dog owners are looking like, are you kidding
04:47me?
04:48But it's because the bureaucrats have no accountability.
04:50It's an omnibus bill.
04:52It's a continuing resolution year after year, which is basically government on autopilot.
04:57If you don't have the prospect of having Congress rein you in by defunding your program because
05:03you behave badly, you're going to induce bad behavior.
05:07That's just the nature of it.
05:08So I think it's really a battle between Doge and Elon and then this institutional swamp.
05:14And so far, I think that Elon's success has been limited to the executive branch.
05:19I have not seen Congress willing to step up and actually make these reforms permanent,
05:25which you're absolutely going to have to do.
05:27And we were talking earlier about Congress could balance the budget tomorrow, hypothetically,
05:32let's say.
05:33But it doesn't mean the next Congress is going to abide by that.
05:36They'll say, oh, we just came up with a 10-year deal to balance the budget.
05:40No, you didn't.
05:41Because each Congress that gets elected, they don't have to abide by that deal.
05:44They can legislate with a clean slate.
05:46They can choose to increase spending.
05:48A constitutional balanced budget amendment, you can't legislate around that.
05:53That's the rules of the road.
05:55And Congress will be restrained from plundering us further into debt.