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During a House Armed Services Committee hearing prior to the congressional recess, Rep. Trent Kelly (R-MS) questioned witnesses on needed improvements to streamline the Navy shipbuilding process.

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00:00I'll recognize myself for five minutes.
00:03Dr. Seidel, I'm worried about the mixed demand signals
00:06that we send to industry with constant fluctuation
00:09in our 30-year shipbuilding plans.
00:11How can we send clear demand signals to industry
00:14so that they are able to invest in their own workforce
00:17and technical capacity?
00:19And also, a separate question,
00:21how is the Department of the Navy
00:23working on GAO's recommendations
00:25as well as improving the culture of procurement?
00:30Thank you, Chairman Kelly.
00:32I appreciate the question and thanks for the time last week,
00:37too.
00:37I've had a chance to get down to your neck of the woods
00:42and visit with Ingalls and see what
00:43they're doing in that arena.
00:45And I think it gets to the first question that
00:48is around how do we ensure that we
00:51keep a constant flow of product through our shipyards.
00:55I do think it's critical, and it's not
00:56lost on me, but I do think it's critical
00:59and it's not lost on me that that organization has
01:01the DDGs and the AMFIBs.
01:04We've done some multi-ship procurements
01:06to make sure that they are staying fed well.
01:09And as a result, there's consistency in approach.
01:12And I think certainly in the AMFIBs,
01:14it's one of the success stories that we have where ships
01:16are being delivered on time and on budget.
01:20So it strikes us to think about how
01:24we handle that holistically for the rest of our shipbuilders
01:29to make sure that that's happening writ large.
01:32I think a part of it is being a little more
01:34directive in that workload.
01:35I think we do understand which yards can do which work,
01:39which platforms are best suited for that.
01:41And we need to be thoughtful in doing
01:43that to keep the whole enterprise fed well
01:46so that they can manage their workforce, their hiring,
01:49and retention issues.
01:51So my commitment to you is to work with our partners
01:55back in the Pentagon to make sure we
01:57try to do that well for you.
01:59To your point about GAO recommendations,
02:03I've had conversations with Ms. Oakley before.
02:07I agree with much of what she has said.
02:11I think there's real opportunity space there.
02:14And quite frankly, I think sometimes we
02:16spend a lot of our time communicating via reports
02:22back and forth to each other as opposed to working closely
02:24together to get after it.
02:25And so my commitment to her and her team
02:28is that we'll lean into that and get
02:30after some of those recommendations
02:32because quite frankly, they resonate with me
02:34on a lot of different fronts.
02:36And just I want to know, we're the greatest maritime nation
02:39in the history of the world.
02:41And we are still that.
02:43And there's no reason we can't continue to be that.
02:45But it takes doing things not the same old way.
02:48But it takes taking a hard look at ourselves
02:50and getting better.
02:51Ms. Oakley, the GAO has identified several opportunities
02:54for the Navy to modernize its practices
02:56to support timely and predictable outcomes
02:58for the Constellation-class frigate
03:00and other future programs.
03:01Which of your recommendations relating
03:03to design and procurement remain outstanding?
03:07We have several recommendations, both specifically
03:10directed at the frigate program and then also
03:12about the broader design approach
03:14that the Navy uses that remain open.
03:17Specifically with regard to the frigate,
03:19we recommended that they take a look
03:21at developing the basic and functional design of the ship
03:26before beginning construction, at least of the second ship
03:30since the first ship is already underway.
03:33That remains open.
03:34And we know that the Navy and the builder
03:36are doing significant work now to really mature that design.
03:39And it's that key that commercial shipbuilders
03:42follow in maturing that design so that they
03:45know when they start bending metal,
03:47they start construction, that they're
03:49going to get what they expect to get when they get it.
03:54And so those are really some of the key recommendations
03:57that we've made to frigate, but also writ large with regard
04:00to their design performance.
04:01The other thing that I would mention
04:03is really leveraging technology to be
04:07able to exercise the design earlier
04:10on to understand the implication of changes, specs,
04:14requirements that creep, and what those implications could
04:18be on the design of the ship so that that's all worked out
04:22before you begin construction of the ship
04:24and then are in the business of doing rework
04:26and having to fix things that you realize can't work.
04:30And as noted, I'm yielding back my time.
04:34And I will hold everyone.
04:35And I will adhere to the five-minute rule today.

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