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Host:
- Muhammad Malick

Guest:
- Khawaja Muhammad Asif (Defence Minister)

"Hosakta Hai Kay Jin Areas Main Zada Halat Kharab Hain Wahan..." Khawaja Asif's Huge Statement

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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:15It is a very important meeting tomorrow, when the military leadership will give a full briefing
00:22on terrorism.
00:23There is a very serious spike.
00:25There are daily incidents taking place.
00:29Now the time has come not only for briefings, but also for detailed and specific measures
00:35to be announced.
00:36What will happen tomorrow?
00:37On the other hand, we are seeing the same scenes, the PTI fights with the government, the government
00:42fights against this country, they are also going on the same way.
00:46Have our priorities been corrected?
00:48And what will happen in the coming days, we will talk to the Defence Minister, Khawaja
00:51Muhammad Asif.
00:52Khawaja sahib, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:53Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:54Khawaja sahib, tell us, there will be a briefing in front of the Parliamentary Panel tomorrow,
01:00and it always happens that whenever there is a big incident, a very big activity starts.
01:06Unfortunately, there has been a very big spike in terrorism.
01:10There are daily incidents taking place.
01:12There are daily meetings taking place.
01:14And this Balochistan is at a critical juncture.
01:17Now tomorrow, there will simply be the same briefings as before, that this is happening
01:21because there will be a proper, specific plan laid out that these are the solutions
01:26and these are the things that we will do in the future.
01:29There will be specifics that the same things will be briefed.
01:33I think that the two things that you have said will be both.
01:42The House will also be briefed as to which path we are taking and what the current situation is
01:52and what it demands.
01:54And whatever the situation demands, according to that, which path we have taken.
01:59And they will take the House's confidence and definitely the options that will be adopted,
02:09they will also take the House's input in that.
02:12Sir, there are talks going on in Islamabad that perhaps a security emergency may be announced in some areas.
02:19Has such a thing been discussed?
02:22No, if you tell me the names of which areas, then I can speculate.
02:26Let's say, some districts of Balochistan, some districts of KP,
02:30they can declare a security emergency and then it can be done there.
02:34Sir, I don't know, my apologies, I don't know about this at all.
02:44But as you are saying, this could be an option.
02:49Whatever you have said, in this, the different options or the different steps that will be taken,
03:00it is also possible that in those areas where there is a lot of unrest or where terrorists are entrenched,
03:08to mop up there, an emergency should be declared,
03:14there it should be cordoned off,
03:17that area should be sanitized with limited geographical boundaries,
03:33so that there is no threat there.
03:39But this is my own opinion, as you said in the beginning,
03:46the spike that has come with force and intensity,
03:52in that, my opinion is that a short-term strategy and a long-term strategy should be made.
03:59In the long-term strategy, there will be non-kinetic measures,
04:05in which the political leadership of that country, Wafaaq, and the rest of the country,
04:12if they have grievances, if they have complaints,
04:18then the rest of the country, especially Wafaaq, is responsible for it.
04:24And in the past too, Nia Nawaz Sharif adopted this strategy.
04:29Malik Sahib was made the Chief Minister, he has a nationalist identity,
04:36Dr. Malik Sahib is a very good man, he has a very big name,
04:41and I think he has a cut more than many tribal leaders,
04:45both in terms of politics and in terms of personality.
04:50But Khair Sahib, as they say, if you want to resolve something, you have to speak the truth first.
04:57There are two truths, one is that missing people is a truth,
05:01and people, off the record, on the record, all believe that this is a very big issue of missing people.
05:07How will we address missing people?
05:10I have spoken to many senior military officers, I have spoken to people of intelligence,
05:15they said that one thing is very important, that you give permission to arrest the ISI MI,
05:21because we do not have permission to arrest yet, we catch the person,
05:25then we hand him over to the police, then to the court,
05:28the police does not know, the case is closed.
05:31The thing is that there is so much influence of the establishment and the army in the legislation,
05:36that I do not understand, if this was such an important legislation, then it should have been done.
05:42But on the one hand, we see that even the Commission on Missing Persons,
05:47its report was not released.
05:49Do you think that until there is an honest talk on missing persons,
05:54if such things are not done, at least the report should not be released,
05:57can there be a serious talk on the issue of Balochistan?
06:04Malik, you have said a lot of important things,
06:14but let me address it one by one.
06:18When I come to Missing Persons, if I remember,
06:24Justice Javed Iqbal was the chairman of the Commission on Missing Persons,
06:30the day Justice Javed Iqbal was made the chairman of the Commission on Missing Persons,
06:37you can guess from that, that those who made him,
06:41we made him or someone else made him, was his intention right?
06:46Because that shows the insincerity of the people who appoint such people.
06:53And you see, he was the chairman of four commissions,
06:57of Salala, after that of Nahab, of Missing Persons,
07:01and there was one more commission.
07:03I don't know if it was the commission of the commission,
07:06or the commission that is made, I have no idea.
07:11So I think that this initiative from Abnisho was compromised.
07:19Let me be very frank about it.
07:22And the second thing I would say is that in Missing Persons,
07:26a lot of people, in the last few years,
07:31in fact the leadership at this time,
07:34and otherwise the insurgency leaders,
07:37were arrested and released.
07:40And they went back and participated in the same activities,
07:43and in fact participated with more intensity.
07:46He defeats the spirit with which he is released,
07:51so that a solution can be found.
07:54They again took up arms,
07:58and the third thing is that I understand,
08:02because I was also involved in this case way back in 2013,
08:08that Missing Persons is not a big number,
08:11and a lot of people in Missing Persons,
08:14are now part of this insurgency,
08:19and they are also named in Nassat Missing Persons.
08:22People collect money, some are in Muscat, some are in Dubai.
08:27So this is the importance of Missing Persons.
08:30I am not underplaying its importance,
08:33but I want all the dimensions of the Missing Persons issue,
08:38to come in front of your viewers,
08:41that it has been made an issue,
08:44and it is an issue, there is no doubt about it,
08:47but the people who are dealing with this issue fraudulently,
08:52how much sincerity will they have with the cause of Balochistan?
08:55I am asking you.
08:57But Khai Sahib, the most potent catalyst in this story,
09:03anti-state, secessionist,
09:05in that, the missing people, and every time the leadership,
09:08for example, Maram Baloch, the undeclared,
09:10the most popular leader there,
09:12her connection is this, her father, brother,
09:15the woman with her is also her brother.
09:18Similarly, whatever youth movement has gone,
09:22its core is the issue of missing persons.
09:26I agree with you that a lot of people will be caught.
09:29I am not denying that.
09:30I am just asking if a strategy has been made on this.
09:33No, it should be made.
09:35I don't know about it at this time.
09:38As we speak, I do not know anything about any strategy being devised,
09:44what to do about it.
09:46But tomorrow, definitely, there will be a debate on this,
09:49issues will be raised, and a solution should be found.
09:52I am with you on the issue.
09:54I am not denying that.
09:56In any society, if a person has to be arrested,
10:01then it should be done according to a law and order.
10:05If he has to be kept in a long incarceration,
10:08then there should be a law and order for that as well.
10:11Even if the things are against the freedom of individuals,
10:18they should still be documented.
10:20They should not be undocumented.
10:22When I was talking about this issue many times,
10:26the people of Intel told me to give the powers to MI and ISI.
10:33They should be restricted to present them in court within 24-48 hours.
10:38They should be restricted to provide oversight to the parliamentary committee
10:43for a period of 3-3 months.
10:46If they come under the law, then there will be abuse,
10:49but whatever is the need of the institutions,
10:52and if they are forced to do it,
10:54even if I don't subscribe to that view,
10:56then these things can happen.
10:58Mr. Khawaja, from what you are saying,
11:01because you are a member of the security committee,
11:04a defence minister, and a senior politician,
11:07that the solutions that are being offered tomorrow,
11:10will they only be offered by the military leadership?
11:13Because you are only listening to
11:16Is there a proactive plan of yours?
11:19No, no, listen to me.
11:21You are showing a lot of enthusiasm.
11:25The thing is that tomorrow there will be an evaluation.
11:32Even if there are some solutions in front of the committee,
11:37then there will be a debate.
11:39The final shape of that will be at the end of the committee,
11:43or maybe after a few days,
11:46after further deliberations,
11:49please don't jump to conclusions like this.
11:56Something that has been made,
11:59and is being brought forward,
12:01it will evolve.
12:03Mr. Khawaja, there is a big issue.
12:05You have said it many times,
12:07the Prime Minister has also said it.
12:09Again, the issue is,
12:11in the process of resettling the Taliban in the KP,
12:14in which you also take the name of General Bajwa,
12:17and the other ministers of the government,
12:19I spoke to General Bajwa when he was the Army Chief,
12:23Mr. Khan's government was gone,
12:25and we spoke after that too.
12:27He repeatedly insists that a plan was made,
12:31a three-phase plan was made,
12:33and he said that three categories were approved.
12:36Category 1 is the foot soldiers,
12:39who fought for the Taliban.
12:42They will be brought in,
12:44and settled with the permission of the local community,
12:46and they will be allowed to keep one gun,
12:49and that too with the permission of the local community.
12:52Then he said that a second category was made,
12:54that those who had a lot of fights,
12:57they will be settled far away,
12:59again with the local community,
13:01and the heinous crimes,
13:03they had to stay in jail for at least 5-6 years,
13:06and after that, if they had gone through the deregulation program,
13:09then they had to be released.
13:11He said that a proposal was made,
13:13the cabinet approved it,
13:15and it was repeated three times,
13:17but the government fell,
13:19and not a single person was resettled.
13:22And if Khawaja says that thousands or hundreds of people have come,
13:26then tell us where they are,
13:28where they haven't come,
13:30and secondly, he also said that
13:32if you still don't believe me,
13:35then call me to the parliament,
13:37and have an open hearing,
13:39and I will tell you everything,
13:41and there I will decide about black and white.
13:43Tell me, who is telling the truth, Khawaja?
13:47Yes, yes.
13:50Yes, sir.
13:52I am asking you, what is the reality?
13:55He is saying that we didn't settle a single person,
13:58we didn't bring anyone, it was a plan,
14:00and Khawaja is saying that
14:02we brought so many people,
14:04we settled them, it is wrong,
14:06the Prime Minister is doing wrong,
14:08call me to the parliament.
14:10I am not alone in saying this,
14:13but this was a strategy,
14:15this proposal came from Bajaj sahib.
14:18Bajaj sahib, in his speech,
14:20on the floor of the assembly,
14:22the briefing he gave,
14:24he showed these bad dreams,
14:26that this will be like this,
14:28this will be like this.
14:30Bajaj sahib, how can you deny
14:32that I didn't bring this proposal,
14:34and the processions that took place there,
14:36after that, in Swat,
14:38who did they go against?
14:40No, no, he said,
14:42it was a proposal,
14:44he said it was a proposal,
14:46it was not implemented.
14:48No, no, people came on the proposal,
14:50how Muslim Khan was imprisoned,
14:52Mehmood Khan, etc,
14:54how did all these people
14:56surface in Swat?
14:58There were big demonstrations
15:00against protest,
15:02why are these people relocated here?
15:04Listen,
15:06I don't want to go into
15:08a long debate,
15:10but people came here,
15:12people were imprisoned here.
15:14Today, those people,
15:16those groups that come from Afghanistan,
15:18those who are kept in transit here,
15:20to blow themselves up,
15:22those people are kept with them.
15:24I think that
15:26this is a very big disease
15:28in this country,
15:30that the people in power here
15:32do not accept their responsibilities.
15:34To accept responsibility,
15:36you need courage for it,
15:38you need conscience for it.
15:40You are a witness,
15:42my political career is
15:44of 34-35 years,
15:46you are in front of you,
15:48you are a witness to everything.
15:50I have accepted responsibilities,
15:52I have accepted responsibilities
15:54on the family floor.
15:56These people do not accept
15:58their responsibilities.
16:00I agree with you,
16:02I agree with you on this.
16:04Listen to me,
16:06after his 3-year tenure,
16:08the extension he took from us,
16:10after that,
16:12he is least bothered about
16:14what is happening in the country.
16:16I mean, a country where
16:18people's consciences are awake,
16:20they are not talking about
16:22what you and I are doing.
16:24Sir, why didn't you call him
16:26to the parliament?
16:28I would say, call it a trial,
16:30call it whatever you want,
16:32bring him to the parliament,
16:34ask him to come and answer,
16:36the truth should come out.
16:38Absolutely, I agree with you,
16:40not only parliament,
16:42they should be called to the
16:44bar of the house,
16:46I would say that whatever
16:48has happened in the country,
16:50he was there for a long time
16:52as army chief,
16:54he must accept the responsibility.
16:56Whatever problems we are facing
16:58right now,
17:00we will also have a part in it,
17:02we will also have a part in it.
17:04There will be a contribution.
17:08There will be a contribution.
17:10There will be a contribution.
17:12There will be a contribution.
17:14There will be a contribution.
17:16There will be a contribution.
17:18But he should go and
17:20talk to you,
17:22I am a nation.
17:24The man who was sitting inside
17:26said, I don't rule,
17:28the government was ruling.
17:30He brought him here.
17:32Why don't I accept
17:34the responsibility for this?
17:36Please, I don't want to
17:38go into long details,
17:40you know what the details are,
17:42I know what the details are,
17:44but please,
17:46the people who have been
17:48honourable,
17:50they should talk in an
17:52honourable way and
17:54should accept the responsibilities.
17:56Absolutely right.
17:58It's time for a short break,
18:00we will be back after a short break.
18:30Will there be
18:32an acceptability
18:34or credibility?
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23:12The President has pointed out that he has the right, as a leader of a political party and as the President of Pakistan,
23:23he has the right to advise the government. He has the right to correct the government wherever we are making mistakes.
23:30He has the right to correct the government wherever we are making mistakes.
23:36I believe that the President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
23:52The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
24:21The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
24:50The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
24:57The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
25:15The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
25:44The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
25:49The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
25:54The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
26:22The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
26:50The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
27:20The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
27:50The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
28:19The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
28:49The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
29:19The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
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30:19The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
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35:44The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
36:14The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
36:44The President has the right to advise the government wherever we are making mistakes.
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