En una entrevista reveladora, Victoria Vanucci, ex-tenista y empresaria gastronómica, comparte detalles sobre su vida personal y profesional. Conocida por su capacidad de reinvención, Vanucci habla sobre su nuevo emprendimiento Pachamama y un próximo documental en Netflix que explora sus múltiples facetas. La conversación también aborda la situación legal de su exmarido Matías Garfunkel, detenido en Utah por violar una orden perimetral. A través de esta charla íntima, Vanucci se muestra sin filtros mientras reflexiona sobre sus experiencias pasadas y futuras.
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00:00A private conversation, a women-to-women talk,
00:03what this chameleonic woman has yet to say,
00:07a woman with an incredible power of reinvention.
00:11I mean Victoria Banucci, who is an ex-tennis player,
00:14an ex-Electrostar, an ex-Bellec,
00:19an ex-Logro Fabiani, an ex-Mathias Herfunkel,
00:23a woman who is now in the world of business and gastronomy,
00:28with her business Pachamama, and we already have her in communication.
00:32And since it's going to be a women-to-women talk,
00:34today we have something a little different.
00:37We already see Vicky, who is without a filter,
00:41that's how Victoria Banucci defines herself today,
00:43in this 20-25 version.
00:47I love it, Vicky, welcome to the afternoon.
00:48How are you?
00:50What a privilege to be on your first show.
00:52The truth is, I feel part of it, guys.
00:54Congratulations.
00:55Thank you very much, Vicky.
00:57Thank you for having me.
00:58Wait, you changed the size of the stone.
01:00Before you used to have a crystal that went into your hand.
01:03Now it's a new obelisk.
01:05I don't want to say one more thing.
01:06I started the 20-25 with bigger things.
01:08Oh my, oh my, oh my.
01:11But much more important.
01:12Well, hold on tight, Banucci.
01:15I'm holding on very tight, guys.
01:17Tell me something.
01:18I'll tell you when the bigger questions start.
01:21So let's start with the softest.
01:23I want to ask you so many things, Vicky.
01:26You have a life, a thousand lives within a life.
01:30That's what a documentary you're doing on Netflix is called.
01:33It's coming out soon.
01:35A life...
01:36I can't believe it.
01:37You can't believe it?
01:38Yes, I want to know how this came about.
01:39But first of all, Victoria, do you know what I ended up with?
01:43The detention in Utah of your ex-husband, Matias Garfunkel.
01:48No, my jacket is very hot.
01:49Yes, if you want to take off your jacket, take it off.
01:52Open the button, put on a bikini.
01:54Do whatever you want.
01:55You started with the hardest one.
01:58But you know what?
01:59You know what's going on?
02:00There you go.
02:03We want to know what Matias Garfunkel is in today.
02:07What is his legal situation?
02:09Well, let's see.
02:10I'm going to be very honest with you.
02:12It turns out that there was a moment when I felt very overwhelmed
02:15because you have to understand that the priority was my children
02:19and when Crazyland started, which I define as Crazyland,
02:22Cuckooland, if you want to say it.
02:24What is that?
02:25Cuckooland, I put Crazyland to define the situation
02:29of that particular scandal, right?
02:32You have to understand that for 15 years of relationship,
02:36I always tried to do juggles so that many things
02:39are never known, right?
02:42Even so that my children don't feel it
02:45or have to live it, right?
02:47And when this became public, it affected me a lot.
02:51It affected me a lot because one can be very public
02:54for many things, Karina.
02:55You can show a lot of things about your life,
02:58but there are some that you avoid showing
03:01precisely for protection.
03:04Excuse me for interrupting you, but let's remember
03:07for those who are not clear about the situation,
03:10Victoria Banucci had asked for a perimeter
03:13and her ex-husband, Matias Garfunkel,
03:16let's say, he violated that perimeter
03:19and that's why he was arrested by the Utah police.
03:22Are we okay there, Vicky?
03:24We are fine.
03:25And it was also made public because, well,
03:28he had a start, right?
03:30And he made it all public, which I would never have done
03:33for the care of the boys and others,
03:36and a situation that was always about protecting
03:39so that it is not public, I repeat.
03:41That's why it affected me so much, right?
03:44At this specific moment, what I can tell you
03:48is that there was a rumor of a wedding in Las Vegas
03:53that was more of a game for my children.
03:56That was canceled.
03:58What was done was to reopen the divorce
04:01from a year and a month ago.
04:03But wait, is he in jail?
04:05Is he not in jail?
04:07Is he with your electronic vision?
04:09What's up?
04:10When we reopened the divorce agreement,
04:13there were many things that changed, right?
04:16One is that there is an NDA,
04:18which is a group of lawyers who took care of
04:21that please never talk about me or him again,
04:24nor about any of my children either,
04:27which does not allow me to say much.
04:30And there is also another thing that I want to say.
04:33There was a moment of so much pressure
04:35that I myself told my lawyers,
04:37look, just let me know something that is crucial.
04:40I no longer want to know anything
04:42if he is in jail, if he follows this,
04:44I already have to focus as a mother
04:46on my children and the situation.
04:48Wait, so to review,
04:50did you make an arrangement
04:52where you will surely have agreed
04:54on many issues?
04:56One of them, then,
04:58does it prohibit you to talk about him?
05:00No, no, no, no, no,
05:02the one that prohibits it is really me.
05:04I am covered, I am not going to lie to you,
05:06with lawyers both in Argentina
05:08and here in the United States
05:10so that those issues are never talked about again, right?
05:13Because I really, Cari,
05:15tried to protect a situation
05:17so that people don't see that part
05:19of this person.
05:21Do you mean his illness?
05:23Exactly,
05:25and also protect my children.
05:27There are many things that you,
05:29when I sat down with you
05:31or asked me about new couples,
05:33one had to juggle.
05:35You see how the guys in the traffic lights
05:37that you are juggling?
05:39You juggle to avoid situations
05:41where you end up with what you saw.
05:43So, to avoid that,
05:45for 15 years,
05:47I had to do a lot of juggling.
05:49One of those will be to try
05:51to be as respectful as possible
05:53so that when I get home
05:55I don't have this kind of thing.
05:57But you had,
05:59I remember talking to you
06:01and you were very afraid
06:03of the figure of your ex-husband.
06:05What kind of arrangement did you make
06:07so that now
06:09you are both on each other's side?
06:11I don't quite understand.
06:13Nothing is the same.
06:15Here, what has changed
06:17is that there is no friendship
06:19as there used to be
06:21and you can call it friendship.
06:23There is no relationship of grief
06:25as there used to be
06:27when you go to war
06:29the way it was.
06:31It was never my intention
06:33to get to that level
06:35or that place.
06:37When a person is not medicated
06:39you can no longer have control.
06:41And another thing,
06:43I always tried to control
06:45that kind of situation
06:47in the best way,
06:49but I'm not a professional
06:51in that field either.
06:53So, there came a time
06:55when it was uncontrollable
06:57for me.
06:59So, it was a situation
07:01that was going to explode
07:03at some point.
07:05What I want to clarify
07:07is that thanks to God,
07:09my children,
07:11and thanks to the juggling
07:13that mothers often endure,
07:15this is true,
07:17many times, as women,
07:19we endure many situations
07:21where you say,
07:23it's a complicated situation
07:25because it's not about it,
07:27it's about mental illnesses
07:29and you have to have
07:31respect for mental illnesses
07:33So, if there's something
07:35I want to clarify for people,
07:37my children have never suffered
07:39the fact of witnessing
07:41that kind of things.
07:43They have been very protected
07:45by me in that sense.
07:47They have lived the last situation
07:49and another particular situation
07:51and obviously they are in therapy
07:53and we are treating them.
07:55I would like to ask you
07:57because I understand
07:59that you have no sympathy
08:02What kind of nightmare
08:04did they make you live
08:06if they made you live
08:08some kind of unhappy situation?
08:10Look, what bothers me
08:12is when in messages
08:14and in privacy they tell you
08:16what a good job you are doing
08:18with such a particular situation
08:20that it was already known
08:22that it was a very difficult
08:24situation to handle
08:26and a very difficult person
08:28to be able to control
08:30So, they tell you
08:32what a good job you are doing
08:34thank you for helping us
08:36and then it turns out
08:38that when things go wrong
08:40you get vices everywhere
08:42So, it was also a bit of anger
08:44on my part to say
08:46how can it be that after so many years
08:48having avoided situations
08:50of bad taste for everyone
08:52What kind of situations
08:54have you avoided?
08:56Let's see, you have seen
08:58videos in which
09:00a person is shown
09:02who is not at his best
09:04in a respectful way
09:06with many people who suffer
09:08from this type of disease
09:10So, you have seen those videos
09:12and those videos
09:14were 15 years of those things
09:16So, you are talking
09:18with a woman who was coming
09:20from my mother's disease
09:22who was just about to die
09:24more than this happens to me
09:26I was already out of my hands
09:28because of a situation
09:30that could not be controlled
09:32I was already out of my hands
09:34I am not a professional
09:36in psychiatry
09:38So, you mean that all your life
09:40all the time you were with
09:42Matias Garfunkel
09:44you had to endure
09:46this type of situations
09:48with him
09:50because you are talking
09:52about all the years
09:54with medicine
09:56in which he apologized
09:58You have a person
10:00who when he is with medicine
10:02it is one thing
10:04and when he is without medicine it is another
10:06So, I reiterate
10:08there came a time when I said
10:10I can handle this situation
10:12to a certain extent
10:14but I am not a professional
10:16in this field
10:18I can advise myself
10:20with professionals
10:22for me that are alive
10:24that are out there
10:26and especially for my children
10:28Victoria, and from the family
10:30of Matias Garfunkel
10:32was there anyone who helped you?
10:34Who was the worst and who was the best?
10:36No, the truth is that there is something
10:38that I have to admit
10:40on Garfunkel's side
10:42I am going to reserve my opinions
10:44because I think everyone knows
10:46what I think
10:48it is clear that there is no affinity
10:50falsehood in the environment
10:52because it made me stay
10:54in a moment like a mastermind
10:56to get things out of them
10:58when they do not understand
11:00that one tried to control the situations
11:02and try to friend the parts
11:04not to separate the parts
11:06but then the parts also took different positions
11:08so they are very complicated characters
11:10so I'm going to leave it
11:12only with that word
11:14complicated characters
11:16that are no longer part of my life
11:18and those who have always
11:20maintained
11:22an elegant position
11:24friendly
11:26in support
11:28in total support
11:30have been
11:32the Madanes family
11:34that I do
11:36the Madanes family
11:38has always been a correct family
11:40on the side of
11:42Matias Garfunkel's mother
11:44ok
11:47good
11:49I'm glad for you
11:51Vicky, do you see me well?
11:53if I show you this photo
11:55I don't see the photo
11:57but if you describe it to me
11:59I can remember
12:01perfect, it's a photo where you see yourself
12:03I'm going to tell you
12:05enlightened, bright, happy
12:07excited, in love
12:09dressed as a bride
12:11the supposedly happiest day of your life
12:13the day you married Matias Garfunkel
12:15and yes, let's see, I'm not going to lie to you
12:17when I look at those things many times
12:19I get panic attack
12:21or I get something to say
12:23I already closed the page
12:25I don't even name it
12:27you may have noticed that I don't even name it
12:29because I promised myself
12:31when I close a page I close it
12:33but when I see those things
12:35I remember what I felt
12:37at that moment I felt
12:39that it was a story
12:41it was something beautiful
12:43but then it ended up being a great nightmare
12:45now
12:47yes, exactly
12:49because you defined it as
12:51almost a prince to this man
12:53you were a Cinderella
12:55the happiest day of my life
12:57you say, the ideal husband
12:59I'm clouded
13:01it was like that, Kari
13:03because at one point you have a gentleman
13:05that you say, oh my god
13:07the heir
13:09almost a man of the nobility
13:11you put the money aside
13:13and you say
13:15the truth is that
13:17when he is fine
13:19he is charming
13:21but then you have the other side
13:23the other side is something
13:25that you say, I want to kill him
13:27do you remember when was that first time
13:29because you saw in a fairy tale
13:31you were a kind of Cinderella
13:35and there was a moment
13:37that's why I want to take you to that moment
13:39where you started to realize
13:41that the castle of Naipes
13:43was going to go to shit
13:45what was that moment?
13:47Victoria, do you remember?
13:49it was in Argentina
13:51I don't forget
13:53I always noticed very big
13:55emotional changes
13:57and when I asked family people
13:59they also thought the same
14:01as me
14:03and yes, it is what it is
14:05at that moment
14:07the attitude of the person in question
14:09made them not so serious
14:11but what happens
14:13as the problems in Argentina
14:15became more serious
14:17I noticed
14:19things that were not normal
14:21even the pregnancy
14:23of Napoleon
14:25which was
14:27quite critical
14:29for me personally as a woman
14:31I have noticed things
14:33when one talks about gender violence
14:35can I talk a minute about this?
14:37yes, of course
14:39when one talks about violence
14:41aggressiveness
14:43there are many times that it is very difficult
14:45and very difficult also how to explain it
14:47because there are people who are aggressive
14:49and who can hit you with a fist in the eye
14:51because it is aggressive
14:53because they like to hit
14:55and it is detestable
14:57but there are diseases
14:59that lead you to do things
15:01that are very unpleasant
15:03but then
15:05you are also in a crossroads
15:07because you say as a woman
15:09you are a sick person
15:11how do I have to take this situation?
15:13then it also led me to a process
15:15of saying
15:17it is not like the typical person
15:19you understand me
15:21that you can have a profile
15:23of the typical man
15:25gender violence against a woman
15:27it is a different thing
15:29there is a mental illness
15:32but at the same time
15:34how do you endure it?
15:36then it is very difficult
15:38and there you advised yourself
15:40you sought help
15:42you sought the support of the family
15:44what was your reaction?
15:46what tools did you try to find?
15:48the truth is that I was always
15:50very alone in that sense
15:52because it is never what I tell you
15:54the tools I looked for
15:56was to be very strong as a woman
15:58and try to protect my children
16:00it was always my priority
16:02as a mother
16:04that they never see this
16:06that nothing serious happens
16:08that they never reach the elderly
16:10that the press never finds out
16:12many times we also talk about the hypocrisy
16:14in which when a famous person feels
16:16and says the whole truth or not
16:18there are times when you can't say it
16:20yes, yes, yes, very good
16:22there it was cut off
16:24it was interrupted a little
16:26there we will surely resume
16:28we are playing it back
16:30Victoria Banucci is in the United States
16:32there we recover the zoom
16:34perfectly, there we see you back
16:36surely it will take a second
16:38to clarify the image
16:40and it was more than clear
16:42what you were answering
16:44Victoria, now I want to show you
16:46another photo
16:48of another moment
16:50where you also defined it
16:52as the happiest moment of your life
16:54a little further back in time
16:56you are also dressed as a bride
16:58Vicky, you are dressed as a bride
17:00and well, stay calm
17:02because you are not seeing the photo
17:04but I am now showing the photo to the camera
17:06it is the image
17:08of your first marriage
17:10with Cristian, the ogre
17:12Fabiani
17:14you are raising your left hand
17:16showing the alliance
17:18and it really looks like
17:20I would say
17:22satisfied
17:24this is the image
17:26it is the photo of the fuck you
17:28there it is, tell us
17:30this is, it is not that you are showing the alliance
17:32what are you commenting
17:34in this photo then
17:36first I'm young
17:38I'm still feeling young
17:40I'm still feeling young
17:42I've done a lot of atomic nonsense
17:44this one that you are showing
17:46was a nonsense
17:48no, it was not a nonsense
17:50do you drink alcohol
17:52at weddings
17:54yes, of course
17:56generally you drink alcohol
17:58well, I was more drunk than
18:00wait, wait, wait, wait
18:02Vicky, you are explaining
18:04you are explaining, tell us
18:06you were with an extra drink
18:08who were you telling what thing in this photo
18:10no, it was also
18:12if you have the reality
18:14the reality of that moment
18:16of the cockroach as they had put it at that moment
18:18at my wedding
18:20is that we were all dancing
18:22obviously I had a couple of
18:24extra champagne glasses
18:26and we had a camera all the time
18:28that followed us, right?
18:30it was the camera of a publishing house that followed us all the time
18:32then a moment came
18:34since the voice was loose
18:36it was my wedding
18:38at that moment I was happy
18:40after three days I wanted to kill myself
18:42but well, no, at that moment I was happy
18:44and suddenly you have a voice here
18:46that says send a fakio to this one
18:48and I was like a fool
18:50and I said fakio
18:52without imagining the repercussions
18:54that I was going to have later
18:56and also later I felt very bad
18:58Victoria, but wait
19:00because there are many people
19:02I have Aventura behind
19:04and I think that
19:06he can
19:08contextualize
19:10a stab
19:12of straight to the end
19:14between two women
19:16in that stab
19:18with Amalia Granata
19:20who had a relationship with the other
19:22and has his daughter
19:24and Banucci
19:26in that stab
19:28wins the stab
19:30and it's not a fakio
19:32what he does is
19:34pinning the ring finger
19:36with the alliance
19:38as if saying
19:40here I have what you want
19:42that was the message
19:45but it was a fakio
19:47totally
19:49totally
19:51but wait, after that
19:53I gave her the expiration date
19:55because I think with Amalia
19:57I have even said that I like how she is
19:59not what she does in particular
20:01but I really like women when they evolve
20:03and I think Amalia has been one of them
20:05we had a conversation
20:07many years ago for Yom Kippur
20:09which is the day of forgiveness for us
20:11the Jewish people
20:13I was out of the environment
20:15I was in the United States
20:17and suddenly I asked for her phone number
20:19a very famous person
20:21and for the first time in history
20:23we spoke on the phone
20:25after being divorced
20:27I was already with Matias
20:29I had my children
20:31and I said it's a good time to end the cycle
20:33and I called her on the phone
20:35and I told her if I ever did something that screwed you
20:37I apologize
20:39you knew perfectly what you had done
20:41and that she had bothered you
20:43but well, guys
20:45a young person does silly things
20:47I mean, I can't either
20:49I don't know
20:51a young person does silly things
20:53a big one
20:55one has to be attentive all life
20:57now Victoria
20:59I have now
21:01you can't see it either
21:03but it's another image
21:05with the paragraph that Victoria Banucci says
21:07about her relationship with Christian Fabiani
21:09you just said that after three days
21:11you wanted to divorce
21:13you regretted having married
21:15I understand
21:17that it was a whim
21:19a momentary excitement
21:21I don't know
21:23I define it as a momentary excitement
21:25it only happened three days
21:27yes
21:29but here it was
21:31I tell you
21:33we had a lot of chemistry
21:35but when you realize
21:38he was a lot
21:40and I was a lot
21:42so when those two personalities
21:44come together
21:46at the beginning
21:48it can be explosive in some ways
21:50and very funny in other ways
21:52and then it can turn into something
21:54horrible
21:56which was what ended up happening
21:58so I can define it that way
22:00I think we were both explosive
22:02young both
22:04and I think we had a very good skin at that moment
22:07it lasted a couple of months
22:09and it burned
22:11when the spark goes out
22:13the bomb of Hiroshima starts
22:15and we don't get along
22:17anymore
22:19Victoria
22:21I have a lot of things left to talk to you
22:23I would love to repeat
22:25continue at another time
22:27with this talk
22:29but I want you to tell me a little bit
22:31about the Netflix documentary
22:33where you talk about your life
22:35tell us how many chapters
22:37how are these chapters divided
22:39because your life
22:41really has chapters
22:43yes, it has a lot of layers
22:45it has a lot of layers
22:47first the proposal came to me a long time ago
22:49a long time ago
22:51several months ago
22:53from a Mexican producer
22:55who I thank and send you a huge kiss
22:57they are giants
22:59but I ended up closing with an Argentinean producer
23:01and also a North American
23:04I have worked with Mr. Pablo Cabello
23:06many years ago
23:08I respect him very much
23:10and I know he is doing an excellent job
23:12in fact he is doing an impressive journalistic work
23:14from my life
23:16with tennis, childhood
23:18to what it is today
23:20the best thing with me is that
23:22it's not that you get bored
23:24because it's like something new happens all the time
23:26of course
23:28and also all your stages
23:30the tennis player, the artist, then the gastronomic entrepreneur
23:33and also the scandals in the media
23:35divorces, killings, arrests
23:37and others
23:39they have fabric to cut
23:41to be documentary 1, documentary 2
23:43to be serious
23:45let's keep talking
23:47I want to repeat this
23:49but tell me please
23:51how many chapters do you have
23:53and what is the release date
23:55ok, what is happening
23:57is that it is a documentary
23:59first it is a serious documentary
24:01and then series
24:03ok
24:05we are talking about the gestation time
24:07only the production does not know
24:09if it is part of the production
24:11but it is handled by them
24:13and it is still gestating
24:15they are doing an impressive job
24:17I think that tomorrow when I watch it
24:19I'm going to move to Taiwan or Vietnam
24:21or somewhere
24:23in the next talk we have
24:25you tell us a little more
24:27we thank you a lot