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Married At First Sight (AU) S12 EP 23
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00:00previously newlyweds arrived at the annual couples retreat the change in
00:11scenery strengthened most of our couples
00:19but for Lauren I feel like my soul is leaving my body it more and more every
00:25day the group environment proved to be her worst nightmare do you think you're
00:30the man that she says she wants us and when her feelings for Clint were
00:34questioned you are sorry lucky you actually have no idea what you're
00:37talking about Lauren did not hold back I'm actually so done with like your
00:43opinion means nothing to me Jamie I'm over it loses Lauren thinks she's too
00:49good for us with these people I don't want to spend another minute with them
00:54tonight
00:59the retreat continues I'm feeling very re-energized right now and it's exactly
01:05what our couples need to deepen bonds this retreats incredible for us just
01:10perfect just have a little reset and mend wounds I think the retreat has been
01:16the turning point we're back to our old selves where we're having fun together
01:21so I mean I just want to chat man like Dave drops an almighty truth bomb on
01:27Clint Lauren she's been saying that there's no spark she's not interested
01:31and then you're a bunch of wild animals that's what it felt like no no no no
01:36no don't don't even go there at the final night drinks
01:40Rhea and Karina both said that they felt like I was attacked what loyalties will
01:47be tested as friendships hang by a thread when it serves you well when I'm
01:56yelling for you then it's okay but where is my defense
02:10it just doesn't make any sense why do they all we all you know what this
02:14conversation is so boring I'm over it Lauren don't be rude don't do that
02:18because we've all backed you and you're gonna look really silly the attitude is
02:21just unreal right now
02:26absolutely Lauren thinks she's too good for us we actually just want the best for
02:33her we just want we're just trying to get a better understanding about whether
02:37or not Lauren actually likes Clint but it was very dismissive from the get-go
02:41she essentially told us our opinion didn't matter and then walked off I just
02:47feel like there's a little bit of a cop-out she's avoiding answering the
02:50question she's such a snob the Bogan's just keep
02:54bargaining with their organic ways they can't help it they're just not my people
03:01losers and she's still she's still going and now she's leaving now like we're
03:06sitting here trying to understand her side yeah I'm just bored with these
03:16people they're just such losers I don't want to spend another minute with them
03:21this is the reason I wanted to leave they're not my friends I don't care
03:25about them I don't care what they thought they have to say I just feel
03:30like she acts like the experiments beneath her
03:32She's always condescending. Yeah she's just stuck up. Yeah, I can't.
03:37They're f***ing losers and they sit around all day talking about each other's personal lives and I have
03:42better things to do I think they're Bogan's.
03:45We just want honesty. I want the best for Clint to be honest I think he deserves better than that.
03:50I just want honesty. I'm a Switzerland I want everyone to come together and be
03:55friends but I think Athena, Jamie and Beth wanted some answers everyone wanted
04:03answers but there's ways to go about it. Kind of like we came on quite abruptly.
04:10No, no, no. It's her response. I'm not pointing any fingers I'm just saying
04:16like if I was in this position like there and all of the girls were saying
04:23their true sense I would kind of feel like attacked. No, like what the hell that is so rude.
04:29She was so rude to all of us and to me and f***ing us all because I've stayed up for all of you.
04:35Excuse me how are we even defending Lauren right now and why are we having
04:41empathy for this woman who just shat on all of us like I'm literally raging.
04:50As girl to girl. Karina don't even defend her right now. She's being so rude. I've literally tried to help this woman.
04:56Oh, let's go. Yeah, I will.
05:10Please don't just enable stupidity. Rhi and Karina go follow her to comfort her.
05:17She's being so rude to me. Don't comfort her. Karina don't comfort her. Why are we comforting her?
05:22That is disloyalty if I ever did see it. Like I don't appreciate Karina defending her.
05:29F***ing Kool-Aid drinking tonight.
05:33Sorry babe. Hey, you okay? No, I'm like she's a bogan like.
05:41She has to be bagging us all out. Well, it wouldn't be the first time.
05:44I swear to God if they don't stick up for me, I will let loose.
05:50I don't think it was fair that the girls came at you and like and that's what I said like
05:56they everyone came across like abruptly and and very direct towards you. Yeah. Although they do
06:04want to just try and help navigate and give their views and their opinions and advice.
06:11I would never be friends with them outside of here. They're like buffoons.
06:14Sorry if they're your friends, but I don't really like them. I get what you're saying and and that
06:20is okay, but this is about you and Clint. It's not about them. They're just wanting to get the
06:25updates like because we've never done this before like we've never done a group setting with just
06:31the girls. We just and I feel like people have opinions on each other's relationships, but
06:37at the end of the day that we're here for their relationship. We just move on like
06:41it's not going to be rainbows and butterflies, but just hold your ground and like don't let this
06:48add on to like the reason why you want to leave because that's meaningless like focus on the
06:54relationship. This is the one thing that Elliot did say to me. He's never said bad things about
06:59it, but he did say before I met all you ladies. I actually was a bit worried because when I asked
07:05Lauren about the other wives, she said they're just a bunch of drunk bogans. Are you joking?
07:12Excuse me? What the hell? That is so rude. Lauren thinks we're drunk bogans. That absolutely
07:18infuriates me. She's always got her nose turned up of everybody and that's why I've not even
07:24given her a second chance. She acts like I'm just below her and I'm like you know what babe,
07:27stay over there then. I feel like you know I do put on like a front because everyone just
07:32thinks that I'm like no, I'm sorry. Don't be sorry. I'm gonna put tampons in my eyeballs.
07:52Is he laughing? I've never heard that before. I need to get you a tissue.
08:00I don't know. It sounds like a cat being strangled. I don't care.
08:04Ignore that. Back to you. But I'm sorry, but how can you leave that situation and go...
08:09I don't care about Lauren. Karina, you're supposed to be a good friend. Like what are you doing?
08:14Lauren has blatantly shit on all of us. How anyone came to her defense or came to comfort her.
08:24What the hell is going on here? I think let's go back in there. We'll wipe those tears away
08:31and be the stronger person babe. Just be honest with them and tell them that because that's all
08:35they want to know. I think yeah, just be as not saying you're not real. Just be as that's all
08:41they want to know and just give it to them. Why do they care so much for God's sake? Get a life.
08:47Yep. Okay. You ready? Sure. Okay. Let's do this thing. I can't wait. I'm so excited.
08:57I just, no, I feel really sorry for Clint. I think he's such a beautiful person and he does
09:00not deserve that. No, that's, that's not, I mean you can't, someone that's that blatantly rude.
09:09Is she coming back in? Okay. Interesting. I don't really have anything to say.
09:15Um.
09:31All the girls are honestly asking questions because they want to understand.
09:38I just, I would just love to see you just really just put your walls down. It could maybe help.
09:45Well, I mean, being here is, you know, out of my comfort zone. Being with Clint, you know,
09:54on a daily basis, like I don't have a connection with Clint. There is no spark, but I just don't
10:00feel like I need to share it with all of you. Okay. Yeah. Just keep being rude. I actually
10:07don't want to talk to any of you right now. So. We felt that because you haven't spoken to any
10:13of us this whole time you've been here. I've spoken to people I have an interest in talking
10:18to and it's not either of you. What? Are you joking? That's actually really rude.
10:26Anything else you want to say? Don't, watch your tone. Watch your tone. Jamie, calm down. No,
10:34bitch. Karina, don't even defend her right now. I was just telling, let's just, we're all friends.
10:42This is quite aggressive. Oh, God damn it. Are you joking? She's been so rude. I've literally
10:49tried to help this woman. I can't listen to her. I don't care. I don't want to see her.
11:05She's just slagged us all along. Nothing to me. No one even jumped in and she was blatantly rude,
11:11not just to me, but to everyone. Are you, I'm furious. I don't want to stay here right now.
11:17I want, I need, I want to go see my husband. I can't wait to debrief my husband. I blatantly
11:24was on the receiving end of rudeness. How dare you call us drunk bogans. I'm ready to go back
11:31to the boys now and expose Lauren to the rest of the group. What a bitch.
11:47It's boys and girls night. And while the girls are making their way back to Hinterland house
11:53after a tense evening, the boys night has been far more relaxed. Clint, you know that I love you
12:01man. Honestly, mate, like that. We're just, we just want to give you perspective as well,
12:04because this is what we're seeing from an outside group. Totally. I love it. And I love to hear that
12:08like you're in your bubble. You're doing your own relationship. It's good to hear what you
12:12guys are saying because it allows me to start thinking more. I'd love to have a night with
12:16the boys. But at the same time, there was some heat coming my way. And I, I get that.
12:22Point of the experiment is to get us out of our comfort zone. And I've got to be honest,
12:27we just actually need to be honest with the group and tell them how we feel. And I think in the end,
12:33they understood where I was coming from. Seriously, I do appreciate it.
12:38Well, hopefully you stick it out. Mate, we genuinely just want the best for you.
12:41Yeah, thank you. I just just quickly, Paul wanted to have say a few words. So go mate.
12:46Paul's still here? I didn't know you were here. I thought Paul left 20 minutes ago.
13:10Don't be so excited to see us. Yeah.
13:13Good night all. Absolute best. I'm actually going to sleep.
13:18The girls rocked up back here. It's a boys night. And there's a bit of a negative vibe. Yeah,
13:25I think there's a few things going on. The worst night of my life, probably.
13:32Okay. David.
13:35When I was at girls night, I was like, I want to run to my husband right now. Like,
13:41I want to grab that man real quick. Beth and Athena were like, well, let's go grab our husbands
13:48because we were all very much on the same page. And we're like, we are debriefing.
14:00I was like, let's just get us all in there.
14:03Hey, has Lauren's worst night of her life? Yes.
14:06It kicked off. Oh, bullshit.
14:09It kicked off straight away. We went in asking questions with Clint's best interest,
14:13just out of, like, genuine concern for Clint. Yeah. We asked her questions,
14:17but we only wanted to get to the bottom of how she's feeling. She was so defensive.
14:23She was being so like, I don't need to talk about this with you guys. Asking questions,
14:27and she didn't like it. And she walked up and was rude and knocked all of us in the process.
14:33She was an asshole. Like, we were beneath her. Like, I shouldn't be talking to you. Like,
14:38she was really, really arrogant. Oh, that's nice crocodile cheese.
14:41And she called us drunk bogans as well. She did, yeah.
14:45Jamie coming back, she's told me a lot of things about, you know, how rude Lauren was to her and
14:50everyone in this house and calling all the other wives drunk bogans. She has absolutely taken the
14:55piss this time. And for her to just go straight into bed, it just shows you what type of person
15:01she is. She's gutless. You okay? No. I absolutely copped it.
15:12I'm gonna go to bed. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah.
15:24Does he think there's a spark? He's convinced when they leave,
15:28there might be something. He believes it. She actually said there was no spark,
15:32zero. Like, there was nothing there. She said these words.
15:34That was her word. What a piece of work.
15:39Yeah, with Clint, I do feel bad. You know, we had boys night and Clint was pretty looking forward
15:44to the future. And that tells me that Lauren is exactly who I think she is. She's definitely
15:49taken Clint for a ride for sure. So I want to share what I'd learned before he packed his
15:55bags and leaves here with her. We're rolling. Can you just level up? And we're set. Hi, Clint.
16:07So look, tell me, tell me what's happened. So we finished boys night and the girls came back
16:13and Lauren was a bit upset with what she'd experienced. But I'll tell you what to start
16:19with. Sorry, man. I wasn't sure if you left or not. I just want to chat, man. Like,
16:24are you OK? Like, what's happened? Have you heard what's happened at the girls,
16:27girls night? A little bit. Just trying to piece it together a bit.
16:31She was calling out all the other girls and stuff. And some of the things she said to Jamie
16:34tonight was, like, absolutely absurd. But you need to be aware of what's happening and what's
16:39being said about you. She's been saying that for you, there's no spark. She's not interested to
16:45the girls. We wanted to give you a heads up from the start saying, you know, as soon as you step
16:49away from this, it's all going to be over. Play it smart, man. Like we said, I thought you were
16:56getting taken for a ride. And it seems to be that this is what's happened.
17:01No, I obviously don't need to hear that at all. You only need to ask her straight out what was
17:07said. Yeah. Because if that was said, that's not OK. Not at all. I'll be on the next flight out
17:13of here if that's the case. Yeah. Yeah, I think enough's enough. Like, she's been playing games
17:18with Clint this whole time, and I really hope he puts his foot down. I'm glad he's got the
17:23information now where he can back it up and ask her and call her out for her lies.
17:40It's a beautiful sunny morning in picturesque Byron Bay.
17:45The sun is beautiful outside.
17:55Have you worked out? No, I got interrupted.
17:58Oh, you're going to get into bed on that.
18:00Not with my shoes on.
18:02Where our couples are waking up to the final day of the couple's retreat.
18:07Why are we awake? I'm so tired.
18:16Rise and shine.
18:18And as the day gets underway, most couples have only one thing on their mind.
18:28Lauren and Clint.
18:29Yeah, after last night, I think her true personality sort of come through. I don't know what their
18:35plan is now. Like, I don't know. I really don't. But I'm hoping that Clint's on the first plan
18:42out of here. You know, when I told Clint what was going on, he was pretty devastated. But I think,
18:48you know, I'm glad he's got the information now because enough's enough.
18:52I'm just hoping that Clint's on the first plan out of here.
18:55But I think, you know, I'm glad he's got the information now because enough's enough.
18:59She doesn't care about anyone else but herself.
19:01And I hope Clint wakes up and realises he deserves a lot better than her.
19:11What a night. What a night.
19:15It was an absolute shit show.
19:18Not a fun time for us.
19:20I was devastated after what I heard last night.
19:23That was... It was horrible to hear.
19:28I had Dave land. I was outside and Dave came in with massive information.
19:37What was it that he actually said that I'm...
19:40He said that you were rude. You were stringing me along.
19:52Everything went wrong.
19:56In Byron Bay, it's the morning after a fiery Girls and Boys night,
20:01where Dave told Clint some hard truths about his wife, Lauren.
20:07What was it that he actually said?
20:08He said that you were rude. You were stringing me along.
20:15It was just saying that I'm going to get hurt and you're going to run away and you had no
20:29intention to see me ever again.
20:33It's all bullshit. Everything we've discussed on the couch is what was discussed last night
20:37that we've also discussed in person that we are getting along well and we're just seeing
20:42how it goes and that's literally it.
20:45Yep, 100% and we both align with that.
20:52They're actually just trolls. They're all mental. And bullies.
21:00Dave stormed in on me last night and said that Lauren had gone and said all these things
21:05to the girls but she said it wasn't true and I believe her. So, thanks Dave but I'll
21:15take it on board but let me just talk to Lauren and I'll listen to her actually, not you,
21:20but thanks anyway.
21:22We know the conversations we have and I trust the conversations that we have but Jamie's
21:26come obviously back and said to Dave and telling everyone and totally taken everything out
21:32of context and added her own words in to make it sound like it's just trying to cause
21:37trouble with us. It's like, we're actually fine.
21:40I think they just love drama. They thought this would be their little bombshell.
21:43Nah, I don't believe Dave at all with what he said. Dave was just the messenger. The
21:49message came from the girls and probably Jamie. After what I heard happened last night, I
21:55got no time for Jamie.
21:58Yeah, they were definitely like bullies last night. Afina and what's her name, her little
22:04troll? Jamie. Yeah, definitely like trying to intimidate me and like, I don't know, harass
22:12me.
22:13That's so shit.
22:14Like, I was literally upset and Afina and Jamie were absolutely red in the face screaming.
22:18That is not okay. That's completely, that's just completely ****.
22:24I don't care how nice they are to me. I'm not going to be playing happy families with
22:28them if they're treating Lauren like ****.
22:30Yeah, if you don't like their opinion, you don't have to listen to it at all.
22:35Well, they've just reiterated why we actually wanted to leave. I am really sick of these
22:40absolute feral people badgering me about like, poor Clint. I just don't know why everyone
22:45is so invested in what Clint and I are doing. But now it's like, I actually don't even want
22:51to leave. I actually want to stay really in spite of them. I think I'm going to get
22:56Clint to give me a piggyback around the grounds today, just to maybe upset them a little bit
23:00more.
23:03What's your plan if you get approached today?
23:05I think I'm going to do this.
23:08Ah, yes. It's very interesting. Yes, tell me more, Jamie, please.
23:18Ear mufflers. Knock it all out. Yeah, I'm looking forward to spending more time with
23:25you. It should be, um, it should be nice.
23:32Yeah.
23:35While Lauren smooths things over with Clint, the rest of the couples are starting their
23:40day.
23:41Breakfast for champion.
23:43And with the final celebratory drinks planned for this evening, they're taking the chance
23:48to unwind and relax. But Athena and Adrian are using this opportunity to spend some quality
23:56time alone.
23:57We're going to the beach.
23:59At last week's commitment ceremony, Athena shocked everyone.
24:05I wrote stay.
24:06By choosing to stay with Adrian, despite the ongoing conflict in their marriage.
24:13Yeah, yeah.
24:16But regardless of the group's doubts, the couple committed to giving their relationship
24:21another chance.
24:23Don't feel like we really gave each other the opportunity in the past week. So I do
24:27feel like we owed it to one another to try again.
24:36And are using their time at the retreat to reconnect.
24:40Nice beach.
24:41It is, it's beautiful.
24:43After the last commitment ceremony, I was feeling quite lost. I was unsure whether or
24:47not I made the right decision.
24:48This part is a bit quieter than down there.
24:51I chose to stay, but my walls were up. But I wanted to give it a real shot and a real
24:55try with Adrian.
25:00I think the retreat has been a turning point for me. I'm having a really great time with
25:04Adrian.
25:06We're back to our old selves where we're having fun together. I have those feelings
25:11again back about honeymoon where things did feel really cute and light and I want to jump
25:15on him.
25:16Why is it always me running for you Adrian? You're running away from me.
25:26It's been good having that chance to connect again and laugh and joke and be playful with
25:31one another.
25:33And I'm glad I wrote stay. Should we write our name in the sand?
25:37Yeah. If you asked me a week ago, would we be here having such a good time, honestly
25:42I wouldn't be able to answer.
25:43What are you doing?
25:44You know, our relationship has had its ups and downs, but we still choose to be here.
25:51After the commitment ceremony, we both agreed to have a fresh start. I mean, there's no
25:56doubt that we have a connection and chemistry.
25:58All right, you do AD. And I'll write we stayed.
26:02So I'm grateful that we both stayed and I hope she's grateful that she wrote stay as
26:07well.
26:08We stay.
26:09To think we both nearly left. We would have missed out on this amazing trip.
26:17Not even this, but I just feel like being around you again.
26:22Me too.
26:23I want to be around you a little bit more.
26:33That's my kind of truck.
26:39After last night's confrontation, Jamie and Dave have headed out to Byron Bay's local
26:45shops.
26:46Hello crystals.
26:47Hoping some crystal shopping will get rid of the negative energy.
26:52I think you need to get your chakras aligned. Do you have anything to fix him? We need something
26:57to awaken his senses.
26:58Yeah, you should try clear quartz.
27:01I like this one.
27:04There you go.
27:05After what happened at girls night, I wanted to get out of the house, like decompress.
27:11This one called out to me. Psychic, activating psychic abilities.
27:16That's the one.
27:17That's the one.
27:18I'm feeling, yeah, I'm feeling this. Oh my gosh, my energy is just. I can feel it.
27:24Lauren's behavior last night was appalling.
27:28Yay, he's first crystal. You were here for this.
27:30But Karina and Bri let me down majorly.
27:34I'm just over this now.
27:36Obviously, everything with Lauren last night was just wild and emotionally draining.
27:40I've never been rude to this woman ever.
27:42And I'm just like.
27:44No.
27:45Oh my God.
27:46It was just so nasty.
27:47She does think she's better than everybody else.
27:48And it's clear to see that.
27:49But you go be better than everyone over there and just leave us alone.
27:52Because.
27:53Yeah.
27:54There's no need to be so rude towards you and not even get to know who you are.
28:00What really annoyed me last night is Bri and Karina trying to peacemake.
28:05Yeah.
28:06Like, you know, I wouldn't rush to see if this woman's OK.
28:08She stormed off after saying, I'm one of you.
28:12The fact that Lauren was so horrible to me and Karina and Bri were really trying to console her.
28:17It's so disappointing.
28:19Like Bri and Karina, what are you doing?
28:21Yeah.
28:22He's been so rude to the people that you guys are all good friends with.
28:27And you know, where's my support?
28:29All I do is rally for my friends so they don't feel let down, so they don't feel unsupported.
28:36I feel like I've been the one making most of the effort.
28:41But that's my freaking gaslighting move, bro.
28:43Like, that's just.
28:44What is this?
28:45That's bullshit.
28:47Where's his responsibility?
28:50I was upset.
28:51And I had every right to be.
28:53What about Athena?
28:54You left her.
28:55She was devastated.
28:56No, and I said I'd f*** up.
28:57But like, I f***ed up.
28:59No, where's your care?
29:01You left her.
29:02Like, I didn't learn a single thing about you.
29:05All I know is that your sister has diabetes now.
29:09I got nothing from it.
29:11Veronica, I understand how you want more feeling, but put yourself in the flip situation.
29:15Maybe it's hard for him to say those things.
29:19I stand up for everyone.
29:21But last night, Karina and Bri didn't ever once back me, support me, check in on me.
29:27And so, yeah, like, when I see disloyalty, that is the best way to piss me off.
29:34Coming up.
29:35Bri, come on, man.
29:36Don't back her up.
29:38Loyalties put to the test.
29:40Stand up for me too, Karina.
29:42Don't defend her.
29:44Things are heating up in Byron Bay on the last day of the retreat.
29:50And Elliot is diving head first into spending quality time with his new partner.
30:01Me and Veronica right now are doing pretty much the same thing.
30:06We're going to the beach.
30:07We're going to the beach.
30:08We're going to the beach.
30:09We're going to the beach.
30:10We're going to the beach.
30:12Me and Veronica right now are doing pretty good,
30:15which is pretty big considering where we were a week ago.
30:18Things got off to a rocky start for Veronica and Elliot
30:22after Veronica accused Elliot of holding back during their confessions letter task.
30:27Don't you want me to understand you?
30:29Yes, I do.
30:30OK, but then why are you helping me with that?
30:32You coming in here saying I'm disappointed.
30:35Here we go again.
30:36Again.
30:37You're just like a broken record saying the same thing over and over again.
30:41Yes, but...
30:42I'm not interested in having a boring, repetitious argument with you.
30:45This conversation's over.
30:46I'm done.
30:47I'm done.
30:48I'm done.
30:49I'm done.
30:51At the commitment ceremony,
30:53the experts encouraged the newlyweds to approach each other with understanding.
30:59You must be able to work together.
31:02And if you're going to actually move forward here,
31:04you've got to empathise.
31:05Does it make sense?
31:06Yeah, of course it does.
31:08And they decided to give their marriage another chance.
31:12We're going to stay.
31:13Well, what have you got for us, Veronica?
31:15Stay or leave?
31:16We're going to have to, like, go back into the trenches
31:19and figure it out that I'm, like, here to do that.
31:22So I wrote stay.
31:24Great.
31:25Yay!
31:28Oh, that's so good.
31:30Elliot and I, a week ago to today, is like night and day.
31:34I'm a sea monster.
31:36Last week was really difficult.
31:38Obviously, we were apart.
31:40And I think that previously we were focusing on the things
31:43that were separating us rather than the things that unite us.
31:47It's actually cold.
31:48Yeah, it is.
31:49Go back in.
31:50Go back in.
31:51When we're by ourselves, there's a lot of pressure
31:54and we're very different and it kind of amplifies it.
31:57Whereas when we're in an environment like this,
31:59it kind of just works a little bit better.
32:01Mummy, look!
32:03I think coming on the Byron retreat
32:05was exactly what we needed.
32:07Having that change of scenery from our usual apartment
32:10was just perfect for us, I think, to just have a little reset.
32:13And it's just been great.
32:15It just feels really relaxed and really natural.
32:17There's a shark in the pool!
32:19Argh!
32:20Listen, I have eyes in my head.
32:22I see the man.
32:23He's hard to miss.
32:26Yeah, he's gorgeous.
32:27Like, I've always said that.
32:28I've said that since day one.
32:29He's gorgeous even when he's irritating me.
32:31It's a fact.
32:32That was so good.
32:34So, yeah, this retreat's incredible for us.
32:36Helps us relax into things a little bit more
32:39and take the pressure off.
32:41You look...
32:43Don't do drugs!
32:45So we're just...
32:46We're still in that learning and understanding phase
32:48of our relationship
32:49and I think we're just both so much more open
32:51to figuring it out.
32:52So it's a really good place to be in.
33:01With Jamie and Dave still out for the day...
33:04Do you surf?
33:05A little bit.
33:06..Ri is taking the opportunity to talk to Lauren
33:09about what happened on girls' night.
33:13Where's the oil?
33:14Hey, guys.
33:15Hello.
33:16What you doing?
33:17Just making some brunch.
33:19You know, I just can't really eat early in the morning.
33:21It makes me feel sick.
33:24I'm a very empathetic person and last night
33:26I followed Lauren out because you could tell, obviously,
33:30she was upset.
33:32In saying that, you know, I get a little bit torn
33:35because some of the language that Lauren uses
33:37and some of the put-downs about the girls
33:40I really struggle to digest.
33:42I wanted to explain to Lauren
33:44being really petty and calling people names,
33:46it's just really inappropriate.
33:49How are you guys feeling today?
33:51Um...yeah, fine.
33:53How are you feeling?
33:55I think I found it really hard yesterday.
33:57Like, I felt extremely heavy waking up this morning.
34:02Obviously, you know, I've, you know,
34:05known all the girls from the get-go
34:07and, you know, I can see where they're coming from
34:10in some of the comments they've made.
34:13I know the struggles that you've been through
34:15and I've wanted to be supportive as well.
34:19On the other hand...
34:22On the other hand...
34:25some of the comments, like, about, you know,
34:28the girls being, like, losers,
34:30I just wish some of those comments weren't made.
34:34I mean, I was saying that in the heat of the moment
34:36because I felt attacked.
34:38Yeah, I mean, it's hard when there's screaming and yelling
34:40and accusations flying in.
34:42I understand, but I think when you're saying as well,
34:45like, ah, I'm bored, I don't care for this...
34:47Yeah, well, I wasn't bored with the conversation.
34:49It was going nowhere.
34:51It was a genuine feeling behind it.
34:53Yeah.
34:55Well, I'm disappointed the way that Rhi kind of turned on me.
34:59You know, you think you're friends with someone,
35:01but they're all, like, sticking up for each other
35:03and whatever.
35:07Anyway, this wasn't like...
35:09I didn't come here to, like, obviously...
35:11attack you or anything like that.
35:13Like, all of my concerns for you have been genuine.
35:17Yeah.
35:19I've got oil on my hand.
35:21It's cool.
35:23The conversation didn't really go as well as I'd hoped.
35:27It was very, um...
35:30dismissive.
35:32All right, guys, enjoy your breakfast.
35:34See you, Rhi.
35:36I'm disappointed that Lauren didn't take accountability
35:38for her action.
35:40Yeah, hopefully things just settle down
35:42and we can, yeah, move forward
35:44and enjoy the rest of the retreat.
35:46Yeah, fingers crossed.
35:49I don't know what's going to happen.
35:53Coming up...
35:55A mighty jab from Lauren...
35:57Has anything said about, like, me?
35:59Yes.
36:01What?
36:03Hits hard.
36:05Lauren, I just called you, and...
36:07Oh, f*** me.
36:09And a stormy last supper.
36:11I didn't say you were vogan.
36:13I said you were loud and voganic was the words that I used.
36:15No, no, no, no, no.
36:17...sees battle lines drawn.
36:19Babe, babe, this is the issue.
36:21Allow everyone to have a voice.
36:23Thanks, Karina.
36:25I'm so sick to death of it.
36:27I've done this too many times.
36:35It's day three of the retreat.
36:37It's so lovely.
36:39Your kind of beach.
36:41My kind of beach.
36:43And while Jamie and Dave are out enjoying
36:45Byron Bay...
36:47I'm feeling very Bay Chakra re-energised right now.
36:55Back at the house...
36:57Veronica and Elliot
36:59are taking the next step
37:01in their relationship.
37:03Are you ready?
37:05Oh, my God.
37:07All right, do it. Let's go.
37:09Backwaxing.
37:11OK, we're going again.
37:14Oh, my God.
37:16You can make hair extensions from that.
37:18I'm aware of that.
37:20I'm a grower, all right?
37:22But while the group bond
37:24over removing hair...
37:26Lauren and Clint
37:28have removed themselves from the couples.
37:30I really want
37:32David Attenborough to narrate
37:34that scene.
37:36That would be good.
37:38You're next.
37:40It's like being in the wild.
37:44Woo!
37:46Oh, my God.
37:48You didn't even, like, flinch me.
37:50God, you're going to be here for years.
37:52She'd go back to the ugly mute
37:54she was at the first dinner party.
37:56Which one are you talking about now?
37:58Beth.
38:04Satisfying.
38:06It's so satisfying.
38:08Go again with that.
38:14Oh, wow, bro.
38:16After what happened last night,
38:18I was definitely surprised to see Lauren and Clint
38:20still here, burrowing away today.
38:22I don't agree with some of the things
38:24that she's done, but
38:26I don't hate Lauren.
38:28I don't think anyone hates Lauren.
38:30You never want someone to feel
38:32separated from the group.
38:34So I hope that she can
38:36come past this and meet some sort of
38:38resolution and swallow her pride
38:40and apologise.
38:42Hey, there he is.
38:44Thank you for that last night.
38:46I can imagine you'd be emotionally exhausted.
38:48Yeah, definitely.
38:50You know what? If anything, it's probably united us
38:52more and brought us closer.
38:54I don't really think I...
38:56Like, I literally have no interest in talking
38:58to them about any of it.
39:00There's enough other people in here
39:02that they can put their opinions on who actually
39:04are welcoming their opinions. I'm not.
39:06Like, no one actually asked me any questions
39:08in a nice way. We literally sat down
39:10and I got attacked with, like, Athena
39:12and the troll screaming at me.
39:14I am a little bit surprised
39:16by Lauren's words. Like,
39:18she mentioned Athena
39:20and the troll were laughing at her.
39:22I think she was referencing Jamie.
39:24It's not nice. It's really not nice.
39:26It's quite petty.
39:28Lauren should have utilised this time to maybe
39:30swallow her pride and give an apology.
39:32But there's no regret.
39:34So, it's disappointing.
39:36Anyway, I'll leave you guys to your little retreat.
39:39Thanks, TJ.
39:41Stunned by Lauren showing no remorse
39:43and her attitude towards
39:45the girls, TJ has
39:47gone to debrief with Elliot
39:49and Jeff.
39:51So, your conversation down there,
39:53was it productive, do you think?
39:55It just wasn't as beneficial
39:57as I thought it was going to be, unfortunately.
40:01I just wanted to get some kind of
40:03empathy out of it, but there wasn't much.
40:05Yeah, right. What did she say?
40:07Yeah, um, Athena and the troll
40:09were...
40:11Who's the troll?
40:13Jamie.
40:17So, she's not at all apologetic.
40:19She's doubled down on what she said yesterday, really.
40:21That's heavy.
40:23The name calling,
40:25that needs to be addressed.
40:27I think she has to swallow her pride and say
40:29sorry. If she wants to be in this experiment,
40:31just say sorry and apologise for the things
40:33that she said. Well, the thing is, even if she does
40:35apologise to the group and the girls who she
40:37name called, it's like, do you mean it?
40:39Because you've had time to process last night
40:41and you're still calling people trolls.
40:43Calling people trolls? Yeah.
40:45I don't think that was the right move.
40:47Oh, for sure. Yeah.
40:49There's going to be some hard conversations for Lauren.
40:51Yeah. Yeah, 100%.
40:53You know, to hear those comments
40:55calling Jamie a troll, for example,
40:57that's very hurtful, so
40:59I think there's a fair bit to play out tonight and
41:01let's be honest here, Jamie
41:04is not going to be happy.
41:12If I was a betting man, and I am,
41:14I would put my money on
41:16it blowing up right there with
41:18Jamie, Lauren,
41:20put your house on it, sell your stocks, put your money on that.
41:22It's going to explode.
41:24I'm actually bloody
41:26dying to know what's going on here.
41:28TJ's got all the good guys.
41:30Oh, TJ?
41:34Coming up...
41:36Has anything said about, like, me?
41:38Yes.
41:40What?
41:42TJ spills the tea.
41:44Lauren, it's called you then.
41:46F*** me.
41:48And later...
41:50You're a bunch of wild animals. Don't eat it.
41:52Jamie, sit the f*** down.
41:54Don't swear to me.
41:56Emotions run high...
41:58Chill out!
42:00...at the final night drinks.
42:02I've done this too many times.
42:09I'm actually bloody dying to know
42:11what's going on here.
42:13There's not been a lot.
42:15TJ's got all the good guys.
42:17TJ?
42:19Come on down.
42:21TJ?
42:23Get your ass up.
42:25Come this way.
42:27TJ?
42:29What?
42:32Don't mind me, guys.
42:34Why don't you sit next to your mans?
42:36Everybody in.
42:38Yeah, I just wanted to sort of break the tension
42:40when I spoke to Clint and Lauren
42:42just seeing how they're going
42:44and Clint mentioned that
42:46he thinks that last night actually brought them closer together.
42:48Yeah.
42:50I was pretty taken back.
42:52Last night when I spoke to him, he was pretty upset.
42:54I think he said,
42:56I want to go in and ask her all these things
42:58that you've told me, so I don't know what her answer
43:00would have been, but I think it would have been
43:02a completely different story.
43:04Seeing Clint being let on like this,
43:06it's sort of frustrating.
43:08Somehow, she's got him wrapped around her little finger.
43:10He's absolutely oblivious
43:12to what's actually unfolding right in front of him.
43:16I asked her what her interpretation was of last night,
43:18and she was still a bit sour.
43:20It felt like there wasn't much question asking.
43:22It was a lot of attacks.
43:24I feel like now I'm getting gaslit.
43:26I'm going to use Jackie's word here
43:28but in reality, it was very different.
43:30We wanted to go in last night
43:32and be like, babe, you've got such a good chance
43:34to make her work here.
43:36We're trying to help her
43:38so Clint can give it a chance.
43:40She's the one saying so many rude comments
43:42and just being so blatantly f***ing rude.
43:46This whole narrative that she's a victim,
43:48it just shits me.
43:50It started off in a respectful way,
43:54but when you're asking questions
43:57and she wants to play it like it's an attack,
43:59it's quite obvious the woman
44:01is just deflecting from her own
44:03vile behaviour.
44:05Is there anything said about
44:07indirect
44:09about me
44:11or Afina?
44:13Yes.
44:15What?
44:17She called you a name.
44:19What's the name?
44:21I'd love to hear it.
44:23F***, it's all good.
44:25I hate doing this.
44:27It makes me feel weird.
44:29What's her name?
44:31What's her name?
44:33Um, troll?
44:37F*** me.
44:41This woman's just like,
44:43you've come in,
44:45you've shit on us,
44:47you've been nothing but rude
44:49and now you're doubling down
44:51and calling me names.
44:53End of the day, if she doesn't like us,
44:55good, whatever, but calling you a troll today,
44:57there's no f***ing need for that.
44:59There wasn't any need for it.
45:01Look, there's an awkward conversation that has to have.
45:03I don't know if Lauren's going to get the conversation or not.
45:05No, we'll have a nice little dinner.
45:07Ask the hard questions.
45:09Is that the case, Jamie, a nice little dinner?
45:11Are we going to have a nice little dinner?
45:13Absolutely not.
45:17I have no interest in being stupid with Lauren.
45:19None.
45:22Literally, none.
45:24I'd rather sit here and tweeze out
45:26every individual hair on my body.
45:28And I'm great, do you know how long that'll f***ing take me?
45:34As the final day of the Byron Bay retreat
45:36draws to a close,
45:38Hello!
45:40F***ing stylish.
45:42the couples are getting ready for the final night dinner
45:44and drinks.
45:46It'd be nice to go out with a bang, you know?
45:48Yeah, there will be a bang, don't worry about that.
45:50Might not be good.
45:54We made it through the last day
45:56of the retreat without
45:58getting my eyes scratched out.
46:00Although, there's still tonight.
46:02Look, I'm not excited
46:04about the night, that's for certain.
46:06No, neither am I, at all.
46:08Jamie and Afina, very
46:10big personalities and love to get
46:12involved. Yeah.
46:14I don't really have any interest in talking to
46:16any of them.
46:18I think that their behaviour was extremely
46:20borganic and I will stand by that.
46:22Jamie, just her attitude last night
46:24and her whole demeanour was just a bit
46:26insane. I wasn't interested in
46:28your opinion yesterday. Nothing's changed.
46:34Obviously, tonight's gonna kick off. But you know what?
46:36F*** it.
46:38I'm not even trying to be nice anymore.
46:40You can't come in
46:42and just shit on us.
46:44I don't think she realised what she's said, what she's done.
46:47She's opened up a whole...
46:49I don't even know who in their right mind would want
46:51to challenge me.
46:53She should've just been like, you know what?
46:55Let me make amends, I wanna stay.
46:57Instead, she's just woken up,
46:59doubled down, called me a troll.
47:01We haven't actually been able
47:03to discuss everything as a group
47:05and obviously now there's like
47:07more things that have transpired,
47:09like a bit more name-calling and obviously
47:11her version of events a little bit distorted.
47:13I definitely think
47:15people want to address it in a group dynamic.
47:17Tonight,
47:19it is giving Last Supper vibes.
47:28Party!
47:30It's what a vibe.
47:32Oh, how nice. This is so good.
47:34Happy retreat. Look at this.
47:38Thank you so much.
47:41I know, tonight, Lauren and I
47:44will be on the file, but no matter what people
47:46say, we are united.
47:48We're in this together.
47:50And I've got to back through this entire experiment.
47:54Cheers.
47:56What a great retreat.
48:00I'm gonna sit here.
48:08How are you doing? Yeah, not bad, thanks.
48:14Mmm.
48:16I want to start off with
48:18the comments that have been made, first of all, about my wife.
48:24I think it's super disrespectful
48:26to all the women here,
48:28let alone my wife, who backed you in day one
48:30against Elliot.
48:32It's pretty rude that you have the guts
48:34to call these beautiful women
48:36trolls and bogans.
48:38I feel like it's pretty shit behaviour.
48:40But, Clint,
48:42what do you think of her actions speaking about that?
48:44Because last night, I asked you about it,
48:46and you said, oh, I've got no idea about it.
48:48And you know what? After what I heard last night,
48:52I'm back, Loz.
49:02Clint,
49:04what do you think of her actions speaking about that?
49:06Because last night, I asked you about it,
49:08and you said, oh, I've got no idea about it.
49:10After what I heard last night,
49:12I'm back, Loz.
49:14You came out like my ears
49:16last night at Lauren.
49:20Clint, you can't back that kind of language.
49:22You can't honestly back that kind of language.
49:26I'm also a wog, I'm not a bogan.
49:28I'm just putting it out there.
49:30I didn't say you were a bogan.
49:32I said you were loud and boganic with the words that I used.
49:36Clint's blinded by the fact that he likes her,
49:39so you can't defend some of those actions.
49:43If you back someone in with that behaviour,
49:45that is terrible, mate, and you should hold yourself accountable
49:47because that's your partner.
49:49Yeah, how do you excuse that?
49:51I was extremely upset that
49:53that Jamie made
49:55Lauren upset last night
49:57by the attacks that were made on her.
49:59Let's just clarify. Last night,
50:01there was no hyenas.
50:03Are you actually serious?
50:05No, you actually ambushed me last night.
50:07That is actually what happened.
50:11You're a bunch of wild animals.
50:13That's what it felt like.
50:18I literally asked you questions
50:20to help you guys get on track.
50:22You actually didn't ask me questions.
50:24You came with accusations.
50:26Essentially, last night, the conversation
50:28actually did start with questions.
50:32Oh my gosh.
50:34Do you not see this behaviour?
50:36You're talking elsewhere.
50:38You're rolling your eyes at me.
50:40This is what you were doing last night.
50:42And this is why I got louder.
50:44I can't imagine why.
50:46Lauren,
50:48this behaviour is not okay.
50:50Are you kidding me right now?
50:52And you're wondering why we're so upset
50:54and why we're elevated and why we worked up.
50:56We worked up because you were rude,
50:58dismissive, condescending.
51:00This is why we're here right now.
51:02We're here right now because you're doing it again.
51:06So is there any apologies
51:08for calling my wife a troll?
51:10I feel like I was being trolled last night.
51:12Are you joking?
51:14I've never been rude to you.
51:16That's your opinion, Jamie.
51:22It's everyone's opinion here, mate.
51:24No, it's not actually.
51:28Rhi and Karina both said
51:30that they felt like I was attacked.
51:32What?
51:35Rhi, is that your opinion?
51:37Rhi, come on, man.
51:39Did we attack her?
51:43I just said the delivery could have been
51:45a little bit better.
51:47Thank you, Rhi.
51:51Once again, Rhi's embarrassed me
51:53and let me down in front of
51:55someone who is
51:57coming at me.
51:59And now Lauren can be like,
52:01huh, your friend said we were attacking.
52:03I didn't say attack.
52:05You did, actually.
52:07You said that you felt like it was an attack.
52:09Whether they've retracted that now, I'm not sure.
52:11But that is what was the sentiment last night.
52:13Because you were screaming at me,
52:15attacking me personally.
52:17I was never screaming.
52:19I never raised my voice until after
52:21you kept going with dismissive comments.
52:23Okay, Jamie.
52:25No, no, no.
52:27Don't even go there.
52:29I was never screaming at you until after.
52:31Jamie, bring it down a bit.
52:33Don't tell her to bring it down, mate.
52:35She's worked up because of the actions of your wife.
52:37How am I supposed to have a conversation with you
52:39when you're coming at me?
52:41I have never raised my voice.
52:43Jamie, more listening, less talking.
52:45Clean back it up. Don't even.
52:47Jamie, listen more than you talk.
52:51I just can't believe all this has happened again.
52:53Like, I agree with Jamie.
52:55But I don't agree
52:57with how Jamie handles herself.
53:00Babe, babe, this is the issue.
53:02Just stop.
53:04Allow everyone to have a voice.
53:06Thanks, Karina.
53:08I'm not defending her.
53:10I'm just saying, like, it is a lot.
53:12I'm listening to this and I'm getting sad listening.
53:14This is where you're having your empathy?
53:18Karina is jumping on me
53:20because I'm louder.
53:22But Lauren and Clint are saying
53:24rude things,
53:26foul things,
53:28mean things.
53:30And she's not defending me.
53:32Don't back her up.
53:34Clint, don't even.
53:36Don't even.
53:38Don't even.
53:40Don't even.
53:42Jamie, sit the f*** down.
53:44Sit the f*** down.
53:46This is the tenth time, bro,
53:48you have swore at a woman, bro.
53:50Thank you. He has sworn at me.
53:52He has sworn at me multiple times.
53:54This conversation is going around and around.
53:56Both your actions are rubbish, bro.
53:58And the fact that you both don't say that, again,
54:00that's why we say you get along.
54:02Bro, you can't be swearing at women and you're rude and arrogant, bro.
54:04I do feel like Jamie is owed an apology.
54:06No, I'm done.
54:08I'm actually done with this conversation.
54:12I'm so hurt.
54:14I'm beyond hurt.
54:16Where were my friends
54:18when I needed them?
54:22This is Ree's time to speak up.
54:25She says nothing.
54:27This is Karina's time to speak up.
54:29She says nothing.
54:33That is something
54:35that has devastated me.
54:45Jamie, sit the f*** down.
54:47Don't even.
54:49Sit the f*** down.
54:51This is the tenth time, bro,
54:53he has sworn at me.
54:55He has sworn at me multiple times.
54:57This conversation is going around and around.
54:59I do feel like Jamie
55:01is owed an apology.
55:03No, I'm done.
55:05I'm actually done with this conversation.
55:09Ree and Karina,
55:11why aren't you speaking up for Jamie?
55:13Come on, Jackie.
55:15I don't want to start beef with you right now.
55:17We've been good.
55:19Jackie, where are you coming from?
55:22That behaviour I don't find acceptable.
55:24That behaviour was not acceptable.
55:26I found it really disrespectful to Jamie.
55:28Thank you, Jackie.
55:30She's literally standing up for all of us.
55:32I haven't heard you try and ask
55:34Lauren for an apology in front of all of us.
55:36There were so many chances.
55:38F*** me. Thank you, Jackie.
55:40I have spoken to Lauren.
55:42I have literally told her today
55:44that I didn't agree with the things that she said.
55:46I don't care what's happened behind closed doors
55:48when I don't see her.
55:50This is your time.
55:54I get it.
55:56I understand I'm a strong bitch.
55:58I understand I say it with my chest,
56:00but it's bullshit that only Jackie, Adrian and my husband
56:02would chime in.
56:04Jamie, when did I defend her?
56:06You spoke up for Lauren.
56:08Things you didn't speak up for her.
56:10You feel sad for her.
56:12That's the first thing. Empathy now for Lauren.
56:14Okay, babe, now you're putting words in my mouth.
56:16You said I feel sad.
56:18I'm sad about all of this.
56:20Don't back her up and be like,
56:22let her speak up. Don't defend her.
56:24I'm not backing Lauren.
56:26I want everyone to come together.
56:28Then stand up for me too, Karina.
56:30We've done our time.
56:32I've had your back. I've had everyone's back.
56:34Defend me, maybe.
56:36What do you want me to say?
56:38Raise my arms? Babe, chill.
56:40Chill out.
56:42My friends have completely
56:44dropped the f*** ball.
56:47Karina sitting there, I don't know,
56:49trying to heat-speak, unacceptable.
56:51Jamie, I'm sorry I didn't stand up for you in the moment.
56:53I sit here and think about things
56:55and I think and I think and I think
56:57and then I'm like, alright, I'm going to say it now.
56:59I'm going to say it now.
57:01Then I try to say something.
57:03I take a little bit to process things.
57:05Rhi saying she needs time to process it,
57:07not an excuse.
57:09I literally put myself out there
57:11to defend everyone.
57:13So don't sit silent when it's my time
57:15to f*** pop it. That's it.
57:17I listen to them.
57:19They're actually all arguing about something
57:21about the two people are not even there.
57:23F*** me.
57:25Jamie's actually probably the only one
57:27I really don't like.
57:29F*** that.
57:31If she listened as much as she talked.
57:33David,
57:35let's just disengage.
57:45Shh.
57:47Shh.
57:49It is so
57:51embarrassing. It is so embarrassing.
57:53I'm so sick to death of it.
57:55I've done this too many times.
58:00I'm so sick of being like
58:02the bad girl, this and that, because
58:04I speak up. I say things.
58:06When it serves you
58:08well, when I'm yelling
58:10for you, then it's okay.
58:12But where is my
58:14defense?
58:20Tomorrow night,
58:22Jamie is on a mission.
58:24It's all about seeing who's gonna back me.
58:26Let's see
58:28who the f*** are my friends.
58:30How are you defending me?
58:32What do you mean? You're attacking me.
58:34Shut your mouth.
58:36Friendships implode.
58:38You were my friend.
58:40As Jamie lashes out.
58:43How are you going to defend Lauren?
58:45It was like mean girl.
58:47Who are you calling a mean girl?
58:49Will she get an apology from Kareena
58:51and Rae? I've said her
58:53a million times. Apologize.
58:55Oh. My. God.