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01:28The first question is from Caloocan City
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10:24What is your complaint, Mother Elsie?
10:27The son who did illegal squatting on my land.
10:31We only talked about the parents, the house of the parents.
10:36Because I don't live in Nubaliches.
10:39I live in Tandang Saora because I work there.
10:42When I arrived in Nubaliches, his son already has a house there.
10:47This is the 70 square meters house of Mang Ruben.
10:52Yes.
10:53And Ms. Juanita, who is this son that you are talking about?
10:57The one who built the house?
10:59It's Rodel.
11:01Was he inside when you were squatting on the land?
11:04Half of the land was already occupied by their parents.
11:10We only talked about the house.
11:13His son built a house there that I don't know about.
11:17They know that he built it and he has a ghost signal.
11:20That was before.
11:21We didn't talk about that.
11:23You didn't ask why?
11:25I asked why your son built a house that we didn't talk about.
11:30I said, let's just pay.
11:32No one is paying me.
11:34My father said, yes.
11:36No one is paying me.
11:38That's why this August, last year, I already left.
11:41But before I left, I went to a barangay.
11:44Because they didn't pay me.
11:46I went to a barangay that I will let my son leave.
11:49You went to a barangay?
11:51Yes, they let him leave.
11:53He told his wife, get out of here, I will beat you up.
11:56Now, he didn't let me leave.
11:58But I said, he can't not pay me because he lived on my land for 12 years.
12:03He was born in his mother's house.
12:06They already lived there.
12:09They already have a house.
12:11Until they became three children.
12:13They are still living there.
12:15No one is paying me, not even five.
12:16I told them, little by little.
12:18The way they talk to us is different from the way they talk to their children.
12:21I told them, your son needs to pay.
12:23Do you have an agreement?
12:26Did your parents or Rodel's parents agree that there is a payment,
12:34that there is an additional payment when you move out?
12:36I know that you just arrived there and you already have a house.
12:39But when you saw and found out that you have a house,
12:42did you have a conversation that I will pay, but there should be a payment?
12:46Did you agree on an amount?
12:48For example, how much is the additional payment when you have a child?
12:52I told them, I will pay 1,000 pesos.
12:54No one is paying me.
12:561,000 pesos per month.
12:58That is the 70 square meters that they are building for their house,
13:03Ms. Ruben and Ms. Juanita.
13:061,000 pesos per month.
13:08They still followed the price.
13:10They demanded 1,000 pesos per month.
13:12They computed it.
13:14140,000 pesos.
13:16They abused the kindness of my mother.
13:19Why did you say that they followed the price?
13:22That is what my mother said.
13:24They will just pay 1,000 pesos per month.
13:27My siblings and I did not agree on that.
13:29My mother is still alive, she owns land.
13:31We just let her, but they still did not pay.
13:34Okay.
13:36I will just go back to what you said,
13:38I borrowed money from them,
13:40because that is where the issue came from.
13:42You borrowed 30,000 pesos from them first,
13:44then you borrowed 120,000 pesos from them.
13:49Is this true?
13:51Yes, it is true.
13:53If you have a debt of 120,000 pesos,
13:55according to the story,
13:57you computed that Rodel's debt is worth 140,000 pesos.
14:05This is where the problem is.
14:07Yes.
14:09But there was a time when you were about to pay.
14:11Yes.
14:13We were about to pay during the pandemic,
14:16because my other child has a tricycle.
14:22She borrowed her tricycle to pay them.
14:27When they arrived in the barangay,
14:29they did not want to accept the money.
14:31They said that they will think about it.
14:33We found out because the 120,000 pesos was not complete.
14:35No, that is not true.
14:36The barangay told us to accept the money
14:39because we were supposed to leave in three months.
14:41We were supposed to give half of the money in January.
14:44After three months,
14:46we were supposed to give the other half in March.
14:48They did not accept the money.
14:50We had 120,000 pesos.
14:53We just wanted to leave.
14:55We were supposed to give the other half of the money.
14:57So there was a negotiation?
14:59Yes.
15:01You said that you will give the other half of the money in March.
15:03That is what the barangay said.
15:04You said that you will give the other half of the money in March.
15:06Who did you ask to leave?
15:08Rodel or all of your parents?
15:10All of them.
15:12Did you tell your parents the truth?
15:14Did you tell them that as long as they do not pay you,
15:16the interest is your 350 pesos?
15:19Yes.
15:21So now, where is this negotiation?
15:23Why did we come to Cayetano?
15:27Because it will not end.
15:29If I owe them, my child will owe me.
15:31We will just do quits so that it will end.
15:32My child owes me 140 pesos.
15:35For illegal squatting.
15:37It's a good thing that I did not demand it.
15:39Because I am not that kind of person.
15:41Because those are my assets.
15:43But when it comes to the land, I don't have any assets.
15:46Because that land is for my children.
15:49I will not give anything to my children.
15:52Because that is just owned by my husband.
15:55We did not buy it.
15:57It is just owned by my husband.
15:59It is owned by his parents.
16:00It is owned by his parents.
16:02Dianne, if they say,
16:04where did you get your 140,000 pesos computation from?
16:07It's like this.
16:091,000 pesos a month for 12 years.
16:11That's already 144,000 pesos.
16:14The computation is from Balangay.
16:16They asked me what month I live in.
16:19And until now, that's it.
16:21It's only 1,000 pesos per month.
16:23But it's a big house.
16:25That's why our house looks big to them.
16:27Because the space is spacious.
16:28My mother cleans it every day.
16:31Because her son does not move it.
16:33I did it.
16:35I took it because her son's house is long.
16:38Even the back is a little bit.
16:40They are already taking it.
16:42Their house is bigger than mine.
16:44Then, their house is better than mine.
16:48My house is just cement.
16:50It's not finished yet.
16:52It's just hallow black.
16:54I can't do it yet because I don't have money.
16:55While they are sleeping, they are being asked to leave Balangay.
16:58Their house is still beautiful.
17:01I'm listening to your story.
17:03Later, we will talk to Brother Alan.
17:06And let's see how this problem can be solved.
17:16Uncle Boy.
17:18They didn't talk about having a 1,000 pesos rent.
17:21For the land.
17:22They said that the land has already been sold.
17:25That's with permission, Uncle Boy.
17:27Because it's like, okay, you can throw stones there.
17:29Because eventually, we will also sell it to you.
17:32Ah, okay.
17:34It looks like this conversation is getting confusing.
17:37Because what you are saying is the opposite of what you are saying.
17:40Yes, everything is confusing.
17:42Thank you both so much.
17:44Hello, Rowena, Rodel.
17:47Thank you so much.
17:52You heard our conversation with Elce and Dian.
17:57What is your reaction?
17:59They said everything.
18:01Almost everything is a lie.
18:03Everything that happens in my mother's house, even in the room where I sleep,
18:08everything has a ghost signal from Elce.
18:10It's really a lie.
18:12Not everything that happens can be done without a ghost signal.
18:16Is this verbal or is it written?
18:18Verbal.
18:20Yes.
18:25How come he doesn't know that?
18:27The wedding of my brother, Kubo is already there.
18:30Dian, Ninang, how come he doesn't know that?
18:33They don't know that there is a house there.
18:35It's not a house.
18:37When Rodel got married, it wasn't a house.
18:39It's not a house.
18:41I have a question.
18:43But is there a permission from the time it became a room until it became Kubo?
18:46And now the impression that I'm getting is that it's a house.
18:50Is it a house?
18:52It's a room.
18:54But is it separated from the house of your parents?
18:56It doesn't look like a house.
18:58It really looks like a room.
19:00Did you talk about the addition of a roof?
19:02No, we didn't.
19:04What my mother talked about is the husband who lost his wife.
19:07She doesn't know anything about children.
19:09But last year, they only complained to my brother.
19:11That's the only time they talked about paying P1,000 per month.
19:16Where did the P1,000 come from?
19:18To you or to them?
19:20To them.
19:22It didn't come from the barangay?
19:24It didn't come from any mediator here?
19:26Ah, okay.
19:28When you faced the barangay, they brought P120,000.
19:31But you decided not to accept the money.
19:34It's like this.
19:36They want to pay P60,000.
19:37What we really talked about is that they will pay P120,000 in total.
19:41My mother doesn't want P60,000 because she wants P120,000 in total.
19:44Then, they will give us a one-year installment so that we can leave our house.
19:51Because it was during the pandemic.
19:53My parents were seniors.
19:55September 2020.
19:57Then, the wife of the previous owner got angry because she was the new owner.
20:01What happened was, the wife of the previous owner told her,
20:03You already brought P120,000. Why didn't you give it in full?
20:07You're the one with the problem, not them.
20:09I wish your problem would end.
20:11We won't be here again and again.
20:13So, if my understanding is correct,
20:15it's not true that they brought P120,000.
20:17Because if they brought P120,000, you accepted it.
20:20Yes.
20:22And what you're asking for, what they're giving is a three-month installment
20:25so that your family can move there.
20:28What your parents are asking for is a year.
20:30Yes.
20:31So, what do you think about this case?
20:35Actually, they said that they already demanded a lock-key.
20:39It's already in the higher court.
20:41There's nothing like that.
20:43My family has a good reputation.
20:45But it will be destroyed because of this.
20:47My mother died because of P120,000.
20:50Because of her stress.
20:52And my brother has been in the long-term care center for five months.
20:56Because of the stress.
20:57So, what they're going to do,
20:59and it's not that my brother is a bad person,
21:01what they're going to do is they're taking advantage of him,
21:03they're taking advantage of him, they're making him leave.
21:05There's a video of that.
21:07Last time, his wife told Elsie,
21:09go out there, I'll break your neck.
21:11There's a video of that.
21:13You didn't say that you'll break his bones.
21:15I didn't say anything.
21:17Actually, maybe his parents are really kind.
21:19Maybe just because of the pandemic, his brain is like that.
21:21Because it's close.
21:23It's very close.
21:24My son is very stubborn.
21:26So, what happened?
21:28That's what I'm asking.
21:30We don't know either.
21:32What happened?
21:34The promise to my parents,
21:36you will buy that someday,
21:38so throw it away, it's up to you.
21:40Why now, we sold it to someone else,
21:42someone else will buy it at this price.
21:44And we just found out,
21:46they're also selling it to their children at a cheap price.
21:48Are you willing to leave that place?
21:52Yes, from the start, yes.
21:54Pay 120 pesos,
21:56and you'll get a discount.
21:58Yes, a discount.
22:00For how long?
22:02My father is still requesting for one year.
22:04For us siblings, not for other people.
22:06So, you don't have a plan to sell it?
22:08No, no, no.
22:10What I'm hearing now is,
22:12this friendship has been completely destroyed.
22:14Yes, sir.
22:16Later, we'll meet the lawyers and brother Alan,
22:18and we'll see where we'll go.
22:20Yes, sir.
22:24Tito boy,
22:26when they built their house there,
22:28there was no go signal,
22:30that's why they're saying that they're squatting there.
22:32And it's like they're the ones who made the decision there.
22:35And they really don't have a plan to sell it to them.
22:38They're claiming that they're only paying 60 pesos.
22:41They're saying that they're paying 120 pesos,
22:43and they're paying in full.
22:45But I'm saddened here,
22:47because I just discovered that
22:50this is really a friendship.
22:52Yes, sir.
22:54We'll see where this conversation will go,
22:56in front of our lawyers and brother Alan.
22:59We'll still be here,
23:01in Case to Face, Face to Face,
23:03in Kaitan in Action with Boy Abunda.
23:05We'll be back.
23:07This is the front,
23:09here in Case to Face, Face to Face.
23:11Here are the ones who are complaining,
23:14Nanay Elsie and Dayan.
23:16And the ones who are complaining are
23:19Rowena and Rodel.
23:25Brother Alan?
23:30The issue of rent has been mixed up.
23:35Let's admit that it's personal now.
23:37Let's fast forward.
23:39So what are the outcomes that you can expect,
23:42Ms. Elsie?
23:44What I want to happen in Tagalog is,
23:46we'll just do quits.
23:48I have a debt to them, and they have a debt to me.
23:50Let's just do quits.
23:51So if I pay you P120,
23:53and you just do quits,
23:55to leave?
23:57Yes, sir.
23:58How about the expenses for your rent?
24:00That's what's been confusing.
24:04Because what they want to happen is,
24:06leave the house to them,
24:08and then we'll leave.
24:10My mom doesn't want that.
24:12Leave it, pay for it.
24:14That's what's confusing,
24:16when they don't want to pay for it,
24:18because they've grown up.
24:19Then we'll give them the house.
24:21And then you'll just move?
24:23Yes, sir.
24:25I have a question.
24:27Will you sell the land for rent?
24:29No, it's just for my son.
24:31I'll tell my son,
24:33if you sell it and the price is the same,
24:35it might get fixed.
24:37These are your legal remedies.
24:39If they file an ejectment,
24:41it will take a while,
24:43but eventually they'll pay for it.
24:45But if they really have a debt to you,
24:47you'll be able to pay.
24:49You'll be able to leave
24:51and you'll be able to pay off your debt.
24:53But you'll have to pay the lawyer.
24:56If I were your lawyer,
24:58I'll tell you,
25:00first of all, you'll get a lawyer.
25:02If you file an ejectment,
25:04it won't be fast.
25:06Theoretically, it's a summary proceeding.
25:08It means that if it's a summary proceeding,
25:10there won't be a witness.
25:12They'll put up a paper,
25:14whatever evidence they have,
25:16the judge will look at it.
25:17That's why it might take a while.
25:19You'll have to prove
25:21that the debt is really P144,000
25:25because Rodel will also testify
25:28that it's a summary proceeding,
25:30that it was allowed.
25:32You'll still fight in court.
25:34What's fast
25:36is the so-called small claim court.
25:39Here, as long as it's lower than P1 million,
25:43you can appeal in court.
25:44You'll appeal in court.
25:46You'll deny them your debt.
25:48You'll deny yourself.
25:50And when the court decides,
25:52you'll follow.
25:54The case is already settled on the ground.
25:57It means that you won't file an ejectment.
26:01Either you'll file a case
26:03and pay P120,000
26:05or you'll say that they have a debt like that.
26:07They'll decide that.
26:09If they decide,
26:11you'll pay P120,000 before they leave.
26:12If they approve, you'll leave.
26:14Because in the barangay,
26:16they don't have the right
26:18to make a final decision
26:20that you'll force.
26:23So in the barangay,
26:25if they decide and you agree,
26:27good, you won't go to court.
26:29If you don't agree in the barangay,
26:32they'll certify
26:34that they can't do anything
26:36and you can go to court.
26:39I'll just imitate what Rowena and Rodel are saying.
26:42They said that we're only paying P60,000
26:45which is not true
26:47because when Lupon was at the table,
26:49it was P120,000.
26:51Now it's P60,000
26:53because Lupon's decision is P60,000
26:56right in front of us
26:58and P60,000 when they left.
27:00That's why there's no signature
27:02because they're still thinking.
27:04You can read.
27:06Because you changed the offer.
27:08Because they'll still accept P120,000.
27:09But since then, you changed it.
27:11You said that you won't accept paying P120,000
27:14because they'll still owe you P140,000.
27:16Even if we can resolve P60,000 to P120,000,
27:19we still can't resolve it
27:21because even if they say,
27:23okay, you're right, P120,000,
27:25you don't want to pay P120,000, right?
27:27Kuya Alam, just to clarify,
27:29under our civil code,
27:31we can't force creditors,
27:33those who owe money,
27:35to pay the debts that are just partial.
27:37So that's just a decision.
27:39Do they have to accept that
27:41it's just an installment or a partial payment?
27:43What can be extinguished by obligation
27:45means that you can just pay off your debt
27:47if the whole amount is paid.
27:49If they didn't accept,
27:51what you should have done
27:53is to put it in the court.
27:55This court, this P120,000,
27:57they don't want to accept it.
27:59Because if you left it in the court,
28:01it's just P60,000,
28:03you can tell the court,
28:05you see, it's just P60,000.
28:07The barangay has a moral influence.
28:09P60,000, P60,000,
28:11and then,
28:13I think that's why the barangay advised that,
28:15because sometimes,
28:17if it's P120,000,
28:19I'll leave in 3 months,
28:21after 3 months,
28:23they don't want to leave.
28:25That's why the problem is,
28:27it's in the human experience,
28:29it's not in the law.
28:31I just want us to quit.
28:33Or because they're laughing,
28:35we'll pay P120,000,
28:37okay, I'll do it.
28:39What they're saying is P120,000.
28:41But when my mother and my brother didn't accept it,
28:44because they'll only give half,
28:46so they didn't pay.
28:48Now, they thought of a way,
28:50lately, they thought,
28:52Rodel is living there,
28:54let's say he's illegal squatting,
28:56let's compute how much his debt is when he lives there,
28:58and then we'll quit.
29:00Sir, they made me barangay,
29:02what always comes out of their mouth is,
29:04you'll pay your debt,
29:06P140,000,
29:07and then you'll tell your siblings,
29:09let's quit.
29:11Sir Alan, excuse me,
29:13first, Rodel,
29:15when my mother saw the house,
29:17she told my mother,
29:19the house is already there,
29:21Mars, just pay him,
29:23you know how much you want,
29:25P1,000 per month,
29:27I got mad, I agreed with my mother,
29:29you still didn't pay Rodel.
29:31When was that?
29:33You can't remember because there's nothing.
29:35More or less,
29:37don't change your personality on TV.
29:39Was that 12 years ago,
29:41or not?
29:43When, what happened?
29:45I forgot,
29:47I just told them,
29:49just pay them.
29:51That's why I'm mentioning that,
29:53because from the start,
29:55the conversation is clear,
29:57here's the rent,
29:59here's this,
30:01here and here,
30:03I'm not afraid to say,
30:05Rodel, sorry, you're wrong,
30:07you didn't force them,
30:09so later on, you forced them.
30:11In fact,
30:13when was the 120 in Barangay?
30:152020.
30:17So as late as 2020,
30:19you're willing to not force them
30:21and pay the 120?
30:23No, they'll still pay,
30:25we'll still pay them.
30:27I told his mother,
30:29because that house is already separated.
30:31You separated the parents' house from his.
30:33No, we won't force them.
30:35Again,
30:37we won't force them,
30:39we'll just add and subtract.
30:41They'll go to court.
30:43First of all,
30:45even if I tell you to sign
30:47and obey me,
30:49first of all, will you agree?
30:51I don't think so.
30:53Second, even if you agree,
30:55these are the cases where I decided
30:57that they're right,
30:59you'll still go to court.
31:01You, if I tell you to wait,
31:03you'll quit.
31:05Your brothers won't follow
31:07because in the Philippines,
31:09there's no jury system.
31:11Our system is judge,
31:13because the judge is trained
31:15and doesn't care about politics,
31:17sentiment,
31:19the judge is trained
31:21to just look at what the judge is saying.
31:23Oh, LC is following.
31:25He said the truth,
31:27where's the paper?
31:29You said no, where's the paper?
31:31I doubt the paper, where's Lupon?
31:33Lupon, come here.
31:35So that's the training of the judge.
31:37It's too far
31:39to go to court.
31:41Here, quits.
31:43Here, there's a debt of P120.
31:45Honestly,
31:47I want to talk to them properly,
31:49but their attitude is not like that.
31:51It's only now that I see them.
31:53We're quiet,
31:55but they're really stubborn.
31:57Many times,
31:59we're okay,
32:01but they're really shy,
32:03and cheap.
32:05For me,
32:07this is what they did.
32:09I'll pay P120,
32:11how can you owe me P144?
32:13You're illegal squatting on my land.
32:15No, because it's a serious action.
32:17I didn't demand it.
32:19I'm not like that,
32:21because we were accompanied by your mother.
32:23I just want to talk,
32:25I don't want to be demanded.
32:27That's why in the confines of the court,
32:29because the court also has coercive powers.
32:31It means, you know,
32:33the court said,
32:34if you don't pay,
32:36so for example,
32:38if the court says,
32:40you have a debt,
32:42the court can say,
32:44if you have money in the bank, take it.
32:46The court can say,
32:48get it out of the land.
32:50On the contrary,
32:52if they say they have a debt,
32:54the court can say,
32:56okay, if you don't pay,
32:58sell that property.
33:00The court has coercive powers.
33:02We and the barangay don't.
33:04Where can we find it?
33:06In the Hall of Justice usually.
33:08In civil cases,
33:10it determines where the complainants live.
33:12So they go to?
33:14To the first level court,
33:16Metropolitan Trial Courts.
33:18You're in Quezon City, right?
33:20Yes, sir.
33:22So we go to the Metropolitan Trial Court.
33:24Why do our lawyers worry?
33:26Even if we didn't solve the problem,
33:28we learned a lot.
33:30Thank you for your trust.
33:32Thank you very much,
33:34Ms. Pernal and Ms. Romina Nanay.
33:36Thank you very much, Dayan.
33:49After facing the program,
33:51Cayetano in Action with Boy Abunda
33:53accompanied the Pernal family
33:55and the Sapico family
33:57to their barangay
33:59for a new settlement.
34:01So far,
34:02we have a small problem
34:04but we can fix it
34:06and reach an agreement.
34:08Our duty is
34:10for the settlement
34:12to be peaceful
34:14for each of us.
34:16It's a big help to us
34:18because to finalize
34:20our problem,
34:22they don't want us to leave.
34:24I also did that
34:26as the eldest daughter
34:28so that our problem
34:30can be settled
34:32and the two families
34:34can reach an agreement
34:36on the settlement.
34:38His brother's request
34:40for the CFA
34:42of P120,000
34:44was to meet in the middle.
34:46He said,
34:48if we don't reach P60,000,
34:50how much more
34:52can you do?
34:54He agreed
34:56to P70,000.
34:58Thank you very much,
35:00Sir Alain,
35:02and Uncle Boy
35:04for talking to us
35:06and counseling us.
35:08It's a big help to us.
35:10We were more enlightened
35:12to forgive
35:14our problems
35:16though we're willing
35:18to fix it.
35:20We're at this point.
35:22Thank you very much
35:24to Sir Alain and you.
35:26We have a new friend,
35:28Ate Lilian.
35:30She got married twice.
35:32Her second husband
35:34was already dead.
35:36The problem is
35:38she got married twice
35:40but she wasn't the first.
35:42That's a problem.
35:44Sir Alain, help!
35:47Good evening, Ate Lilian.
35:49Good evening, Sir Alain.
35:51Your question is unique.
35:53Tell us a story.
35:55Your second husband
35:57passed away a few years ago.
35:59How many children do you have?
36:00One.
36:02So you went to the SSS?
36:04Yes.
36:06When I filed for burial,
36:08I got 20.
36:10The second time
36:12I went to the SSS,
36:14I claimed a death claim.
36:16They gave me a lot of requirements
36:18including notaries.
36:20I spent a lot there.
36:22The SSS told me
36:24that they asked me for a cenumar
36:26when they saw my record.
36:28I only claimed
36:30a death claim.
36:32The SSS told me
36:34that my marriage is invalid.
36:36I'm not qualified
36:38to claim a death claim
36:40for my husband.
36:42I told the SSS
36:44that maybe my son can do it.
36:46They told me
36:48to bring my son here.
36:50The second time,
36:52I went back there
36:54after 3 years.
36:56When my son went there,
36:58the SSS told him
37:00that they have a beneficiary.
37:02My husband was placed there
37:04with 3 people.
37:06The SSS told my son
37:08that if he can get 100%,
37:10the 5 of them will share.
37:12My son went home
37:14and asked why the SSS
37:16didn't include people
37:18who are not related to the SSS.
37:20I lost hope
37:22that I can claim a death claim.
37:24Now,
37:26because I lost hope,
37:28I have written
37:30a letter to the SSS
37:32asking them to notice me.
37:34I want to thank them
37:36because they are the only ones
37:38who noticed me.
37:40I'm sorry,
37:42Ms. Ilya.
37:44The first lesson
37:46is that the world
37:48is either too legalistic
37:50or too judicious.
37:52The Senomar
37:54is a Certificate of No Marriage.
37:56Now, if you are a beneficiary,
37:57when you see
37:59that you have a wife,
38:01because under the law,
38:03if your marriage is still valid,
38:05even if you are married
38:07and have a wife,
38:09you will be disqualified
38:11because the beneficiary
38:13is the wife
38:15under a valid marriage.
38:17Having said that,
38:19there are consequences.
38:21If you are disqualified again,
38:23you will go to the person
38:25who wrote the letter
38:27and your wife
38:29or her father
38:31designated your child.
38:33So, Larry, what happened
38:35when you came back?
38:37As you said,
38:39your child is disqualified.
38:41His child was given a form
38:43to fill up and be submitted to the SSS.
38:45After that,
38:47he had to create an account
38:49in the SSS
38:51for the bank account.
38:53Did he enter as a secondary
38:55or designated beneficiary?
38:57The government is big, right?
38:59I really am sorry that this happened to you.
39:01We will still write to the SSS
39:03to review and see
39:05why this happened.
39:07Because instead of you
39:09taking care of your child for several years,
39:11and as you said,
39:13this is not help,
39:15this is not a dole out,
39:17this is a contribution
39:19of your hard work.
39:21So, we will help
39:23and as I said,
39:25we will help your family.
39:27What happened to Liliya,
39:29if you look at the law of the SSS,
39:31it is written there
39:33who is the beneficiary.
39:35So even if you put
39:37someone else,
39:39but you have a wife,
39:41your wife is the beneficiary.
39:43But if you put your wife,
39:45there is a problem,
39:47let's say you are not legally married
39:49or under this case,
39:51your previous marriage is still subsisting.
39:53So under the law,
39:55you are not married.
39:57So this is the program
39:59of Kayetano in Action with Boy Abunda
40:01on behalf of the SSS
40:03on why this happened.
40:05Thank you very much,
40:07we learned a lot.
40:09Later,
40:11there are dreamers,
40:13showbiz,
40:15who will ask Tito Boy.
40:17Later,
40:19on the return of
40:21Kayetano in Action
40:23with Boy Abunda.
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40:42We're located at
40:44103 M.L. Quezon Avenue,
40:46Hagonoy, Taguig.
40:48Hi,
40:50welcome to Kayetano in Action.
40:52Thank you very much.
40:54Thank you for having us.
40:55It's an honor.
40:57It's a privilege to be asked.
40:59I heard,
41:01before I came to the studio
41:03for Kayetano in Action,
41:05you have something to ask me.
41:07What is this?
41:09Here it is.
41:11We're very curious.
41:13How do you do
41:15short interviews?
41:17Because from our job,
41:19it's very difficult.
41:21Especially you two,
41:22you have an intro,
41:24body, and outro.
41:26I also do court-side reporting.
41:28It's very fast.
41:30While people are choosing.
41:32Yes, it's very chaotic.
41:34So how do you do that?
41:36At first,
41:38are there instances when
41:40you do very quick interviews
41:42without much preparation?
41:44Most of the time.
41:46Because in segments,
41:48there are different questions,
41:50but it's still essential
41:52for us to think of questions
41:54so we can focus on the topic.
41:56Sometimes with the CS,
41:58the person who wants to interview us
42:00is very sudden.
42:02Sometimes it's not planned at all.
42:04But when we're given the chance,
42:06we think of questions
42:08just for one minute.
42:10So that's what usually happens.
42:12Because it's live.
42:14Okay.
42:15The three of them,
42:17are part of my house of hosts.
42:19What is a house of hosts?
42:20A house of young hosts.
42:22Yes.
42:24But we learn from each other.
42:26Okay, this is what we're going to do today.
42:28Because you want to know
42:30how to do short interviews.
42:32We will do an exercise
42:34for kids,
42:36mothers,
42:38students,
42:40who are interested to do hosting,
42:42who are interested to do interviews.
42:44There is a technique
42:46on how to do it.
42:47We call them a married team.
42:49We call them a married team.
42:51Rika is here.
42:53Rika, please.
42:55Rika, first of all, thank you very much.
42:57Thank you for having me.
42:59Rika, I just want you
43:01to share with us,
43:03at least,
43:05aside from your name,
43:07three things about you.
43:09And Shuvie, Sam, and Angie
43:12will listen to what you have to say.
43:14Okay, ready?
43:15Okay.
43:17First,
43:19I'm a double degree holder,
43:21Communication and Journalism.
43:23Second,
43:25I come from a musically inclined family.
43:27And third,
43:29I have a corporate job,
43:31plus a lot of side hustles.
43:33Thank you very much.
43:35From these facts,
43:37how do you intro?
43:39How do you do
43:41one, two, three questions?
43:43And how do you outro?
43:45And then you ask the questions to Rika,
43:47Rika answers,
43:49and then we close.
43:51Shuvie, this is your camera.
43:53Okay, three, two, one, go.
43:55Mga Kapusa,
43:57let us all welcome a double degree holder
43:59and many more.
44:01Let us all welcome Rika.
44:03Welcome to the show.
44:07How do you handle pressure
44:09amidst everything that you're doing?
44:12I handle pressure in a positive way.
44:13I think of pressure as something
44:15that fuels you
44:17to keep on going.
44:19For me,
44:21is that what motivates you?
44:23Is that right?
44:25My motivation actually is,
44:27of course, personal.
44:29I have a son,
44:31and I also have dreams of my own to pursue.
44:33So what's your dream for your son's future?
44:36Well,
44:38to have good education in the future.
44:40That's why I'm working hard to fund for his education.
44:42And to make sure that he has
44:44a happy family.
44:46Mga Kapusa,
44:48that's why we have Rika with us.
44:50She's not just a double degree holder,
44:52musically inclined,
44:54and communicator.
44:56She's also a good mother.
44:58And that's her motivation for all of this.
45:00We hope all the best for Rika and her son.
45:02So thank you very much.
45:04Back to you.
45:06Thank you, Rika.
45:08Thank you very much.
45:09Even if you prepared a question,
45:11but because you listened,
45:13and I appreciate that,
45:15because you listened, you changed the question.
45:17You went to motherhood.
45:19Beautiful, right? Very good point.
45:21And every time you're unsure,
45:23and this is for young hosts out there,
45:25do not be pressured
45:27by asking the wrong question.
45:29Because it slows down
45:32your thinking process.
45:34Too many.
45:36This is the next one.
45:37Let's call in Anika.
45:39Anika.
45:41Hi, Anika.
45:43Hello, everybody.
45:45Okay, Anika,
45:47at least three things about you.
45:49I am a full-time solo parent.
45:51It's my pride and joy.
45:53And back in college,
45:55I studied film,
45:57but I realized to myself
45:59I didn't really like that.
46:01And so I now do sales
46:03for a digital marketing company
46:05based in Pittsburgh.
46:07Thank you, Anika.
46:09And welcome to the show,
46:11this imaginary show, whatever it is.
46:13Go.
46:15Being a single mom
46:17is not an easy thing to do.
46:19But how does she do it?
46:21She is still unstoppable.
46:23Let's meet Anika.
46:25There you are.
46:27Our guest is so beautiful today.
46:29Look at you.
46:31Juggling everything.
46:33Here comes my first question.
46:35Are you ready?
46:37Just kidding.
46:39Is there a time that you turned
46:41a weakness into a strength
46:43knowing your background?
46:45For the most part of it, yes.
46:47Because, I mean, being a single mom
46:49obviously is very hard.
46:51There would really be days
46:53where you really doubt yourself.
46:55Can I really do this?
46:57Especially when you're alone.
46:59But then at the end of the day,
47:01you realize nobody else
47:03is going to do it for you,
47:05but yourself.
47:07I'm not a very organized person.
47:09I mean, my son is only 2 years old.
47:11So I'm trying to be kind to myself
47:14that I've only been a mom for 2 years.
47:17So I don't have a very organized schedule.
47:20This is what we learned from this episode.
47:23God's redirection is not a rejection.
47:26That's it, my dears.
47:28See you.
47:30Thank you, Anika.
47:32Thank you. Thank you, guys.
47:34Let's critique ourselves.
47:35Were you happy with your performance?
47:37No.
47:38No? Why aren't you happy?
47:40I was super short.
47:42But there are interviews that have to be super short.
47:44Yeah, I want to know more.
47:46Yeah, yeah.
47:48But look at what's coming out.
47:50By just listening,
47:52you discover a lot about people.
47:54Okay, this time let's go to Aya.
47:56Hi, Aya.
47:58Candidate my brother-in-law.
48:00Thank you, Aya, Rika, and Anika for doing this.
48:03This is all sudden.
48:05We didn't know this was going to happen.
48:07Yes, we didn't know.
48:09One by one.
48:11Just to be clear.
48:13We didn't script this.
48:15This is how it's going to be.
48:17One by one.
48:19Nobody was ready for this.
48:21Aya, 3 things about you.
48:23Hi, good evening.
48:25I am Aya.
48:27I am a fresh grad from the University of the Philippines, Dalaman.
48:30And I took up BA Theatre Arts.
48:31So currently, I do freelance work.
48:34I also do have a corporate job.
48:36My last fact about me is I also do advocacy projects.
48:40To always, you know, engage myself more.
48:43To step on the ground.
48:45That kind of aspect.
48:47So, my dears, right now we have a fresh graduate from UP, Dalaman
48:51who does freelance work and is also doing advocacy.
48:55So, meet Aya.
48:57Hey, what's up, Aya?
48:59Hi, Aya.
49:01So, I'm actually Aya.
49:03I'm also a UP alumna.
49:05So, hello, scholar ng bayan.
49:07And bilang scholar ng bayan, bit-bit natin talaga yung mga prinsipi natin.
49:10So, tell us about your advocacy.
49:12So, you wanna know more about it?
49:14So, since I'm a theatre major,
49:16ang ginagawa talaga naming projects is yung when it comes to gender advocacy,
49:20when it comes to feminism.
49:22So, yung mga plays na kinakaff namin,
49:24they are performances curated for a certain advocacy.
49:26Minsan, no script talaga.
49:28Device work, everyday rehearsal, nagbabago yung mga bagay.
49:29Oo, change is really inevitable pag ganung field.
49:33Pero, ano ba yung hate na hate mong gawin?
49:35Oo, gustong malaman kasi parang gustong-gustong yung ginagawa mo eh.
49:38Yeah.
49:39Siguro, ang hate ko lang talaga is yung mas malayo pa dun sa field na nasan ako ko ngayon.
49:45Kamusta naman yung feeling mo nung graduate ka sa UP, Dalaman?
49:50Actually, fun fact, nung graduate ako, nagtatrabaho din ako.
49:53Nag-freelancer ko, NSM ko yung sarili kong graduation.
49:56Pero, iba talaga yung pakiramdam na after all the hard work, talagang I made it on time.
50:01I made it possible, juggling everything.
50:04I had my hopes and dreams para sa sarili ko and para sa family ko.
50:07But, we still made it to the end.
50:09And, we are now to a new start. Ayun.
50:11Yes, we are off to a new start.
50:13Takabangan namin yan. We are rooting for you.
50:16Maraming salamat, Aya.
50:18Sa mga kagaya ni Aya na fresh grad, and still holding on your principles,
50:22lagi nating tatandaan na it's okay to change as long as you hold what is true within your core.
50:30Yes.
50:32Maraming salamat, Aya.
50:34Balik, Aya.
50:36Pero, napapansin niyo ba na humuhugot kayo doon?
50:40Yes.
50:42Share that experience.
50:44Kasi, always talk about your core.
50:47Lagi kami humuhugot sa personal experience namin.
50:49Ako, madalas tumabalik talaga sa advocacy, kasi yun ako as a person.
50:53Takeaway?
50:55Sa akin kasi, Tito Boy, parang personally, gusto ko rin yung feeling na makakagraduate ako sa UP.
50:59Kaya, parang medyo na-curious ako, anong feeling na graduate ka doon?
51:03Parang doon ako mas nag-focus.
51:05Shivi?
51:07Na ano ako, na-test yung ano ko doon.
51:09Putak ko doon.
51:11Ganun pala yun.
51:13Ganun pala gumawa ng short interview.
51:15Okay, test na test siya.
51:16In fairness, buti na lang may last two brain cells pa ako.
51:19In fairness, Tito Boy, it was the nicest workshop in a way.
51:23Pero, napapamiss, nagawa namin Tito Boy.
51:25Walang script, walang script.
51:27And you weren't ready for this?
51:29Ang akala niyo magtatanong kayo ng mga questions.
51:31Ako naman, it's always exploring that unknown, that uncertain space.
51:35Atsaka, importante talaga, ay magsasawa na siguro kayo when I say, go back to your core.
51:41Ang baon mo lang kwento mo.
51:43You own your story, nobody else owns your story.
51:46And the last one is, you have to be interested.
51:49Maraming salamat.
51:51Salamat, salamat.
51:53Salamat.
51:55Salamat, thank you to our guests.
51:57To Cormen, thank you so much.
51:59To Annika, to Aya, and to Rika.
52:02Maraming, maraming salamat po.
52:04At kami magbabalik dito po sa Kaitanan Action with Boy Abunda.
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52:14Dito lang po sa Kaitanan Action with Boy Abunda.
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52:31Maraming, maraming salamat po.
52:33Napaka-exciting po natin ngayong gabi dahil ang maglalaban po para sa Alan Peter Pick
52:38ay ang mga guru mula po sa E. Rodriguez Jr. High School.
52:41At ang kalaban ng ating mga guru ay mga vendors mula sa Caloocan City!
52:48Anda tayo manalo?
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52:55Lahat ang sampung ito ay makakalaro at mga kalaban, si Kuya Alan.
53:00At sino ang ating mga players ang merong CIA Lucky Cards
53:06nasa ilalim ng inyong mga...
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53:21Doon muna tayo sa mga teachers.
53:24Maritim, tulungan niyo kami.
53:26Tunog-sunod lang ang mananalo ay magkauwi ng P5,000.
53:30Walang talo dito, dahil ang hindi papalarin ay P3,000.
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54:58Thank you!
55:00Pero walang uuwi na walang regalo mula sa ating munting programa.
55:03Kayo lahat ay magu-uwi ng Insaymada mula sa Luna Cafe.
55:07At mga bags mula po sa JC Premier.
55:21Thank you!
55:23Peboy, I'm happy na kahit na napaka-init nung dalawang pamily against each other
55:30sa matiwasay na pag-uusap, hindi pa rin nagkasundo pero konting napangiti,
55:36konting icebreaker nga sabi ni Atty. Matt, and hopefully magbukas isip nila na mag-uusap.
55:41Pag maliit pa yung problema, mas madaling isolve.
55:44Pag nag-start ka sa beginning, mas madaling isolve ang problema or i-face yung challenge.
55:50Pag tingin yung medyo pabuhol-buhol na, humingi ng advice at saka to-two ka na kagat.
55:55I saw an interview of a billionaire.
55:59At ang tanong sa kanya ay, how did you get to where you are today?
56:04At ito'y may relevant sa ating usapan ngayong gabi.
56:08Ang kanyang kasagutan ay, I listened.
56:10Doon sa ating kaso na may kinalaman sa puno ng manga at sa lupa.
56:16Sinusubukan man nila mag-uusap, pero ang aking nakita ay,
56:20humintunay yung kanilang capacity to listen to each other.
56:25Kaya pag nawala yun, napakahirap.
56:28Sabi nga, we do not pretend to solve all problems that are brought to the program.
56:33Ang application nun sa tunay na buhay ay,
56:36if we stop listening to each other, napakalaking problema.
56:40Kanina dito sa Kaitanan in Action, ako'y sinamahan ng tatlo kong studyante sa hosting.
56:46Ang tawag ko namin dyan ay, house of hosts.
56:49Isang events host, si Samantza, at dalawang batang hosts ng unang hearing.
56:55At ang aming ginawa kanina was partly a listening exercise.
57:00How do you do short interviews? By simply listening.
57:04At ang listening, hindi lamang doon sa salita.
57:06By listening to the body language, listening to how the eyes move.
57:11Ang mga hosts, sensitibo, lalo ng interviewers,
57:16sensitibo doon sa lingwahe na hindi lamang verbal,
57:20pero lingwahe na sinasabi ng mata, ng katawan, at importante that we listen.
57:26For us to have a better world, for us to have a more peaceful world, and a happier world.
57:31Tsaka, kuiboy talagang marunong ang Panginoon, na yung message sa iyo today is listen.
57:36Kasi CIA with BA is now on radio.
57:39That's right.
57:41Totoo yun. So maraming maraming salamat po sa inyo.
57:45Listening sa aking ama, kay Sen. Rene Compañero Caetano, parati niya sinasabing,
57:51wag magpapi, alamin ang batas.
57:54At ang idadagdag ko naman po, ay kung may legal na kaalaman,
57:59mas may ilalaban ang ating karapatan.
58:02Ako naman sa pakikinig ko sa mga abogado,
58:06ang aking natututunan ay dapat doon tayo lagi sa tama.
58:10Dahil sa batas, wala tayo.
58:12Maraming maraming salamat po sa inyo lahat.
58:15Magkikita kita tayo muli, dito lamang sa ating paboritong programa, tuwing linggo ng gabi.
58:21Ito po ang...