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00:00The Manzai Company
00:04Now, the Manzai Company is full of various entertainers.
00:09Evers!
00:11He's here.
00:12He won the grand prize in a number of competitions last year.
00:15He's a regular.
00:17Now, he is a popular entertainer who sells the most tickets in the theater.
00:24He won the M-1 Grand Prix for the first time last year.
00:27He still has his nails.
00:29He won the grand prize in the Manzai Company.
00:34He won the third place.
00:37He's one step closer to the final round.
00:46And...
00:48He won the first prize in the TV show last month.
00:52Evers is sure to win this year.
00:55However, his friends say that...
00:59He was born poor.
01:03I'm funny, but I don't want to be called a baseball player.
01:07It's obvious that he didn't get any results at all.
01:11And...
01:12He taught me the Manzai Iroha.
01:15Wow.
01:17The reason why he has his current style is...
01:21First, Evers' Manzai.
01:23Here you are.
01:28Hello!
01:33I'm Evers from Machida.
01:35Nice to meet you.
01:36Nice to meet you, too.
01:40Hey, you.
01:41What's up?
01:42Do you have an old scar?
01:43An old scar?
01:44Actually, I was in a baseball club when I was in junior high school.
01:47I practiced too much at that time.
01:49So, I got a baseball scar.
01:50A baseball scar?
01:51Yes.
01:52That's why I quit the club.
01:54And I still have it.
01:55I still have a scar even though I'm old.
01:58It's quite hard.
01:59A baseball elbow?
02:00Yes.
02:01A baseball elbow.
02:02Do you mean the ball that a pitcher throws...
02:05and you hit it with your elbow instead of a bat?
02:08That's a baseball elbow.
02:11I'm talking about a baseball elbow.
02:13A baseball elbow?
02:14A baseball elbow is a baseball that a pitcher throws and you hit it back with your elbow.
02:19It was a hard time when you were a student.
02:21I wasn't told that.
02:22What?
02:23I wasn't told that.
02:25Oh, really?
02:26No, no. A baseball elbow.
02:27Isn't it strange to say a baseball elbow?
02:29What?
02:30Because the words related to baseball are...
02:32pro baseball,
02:33young baseball,
02:35and baseball in the second half.
02:37That's a baseball.
02:40A baseball that a pro plays.
02:42Pro baseball.
02:43What I'm talking about is an elbow that was hurt by baseball.
02:47A baseball elbow.
02:48My elbow is a baseball elbow.
02:51My elbow is a baseball elbow.
02:54Can you say that in front of Ichiro?
02:56What?
02:58What?
02:59I want you to listen to me.
03:01You quit baseball in middle school.
03:03It's arrogant to call your elbow a baseball elbow.
03:08I didn't mean that.
03:09What?
03:10I'm not saying that my elbow is a baseball elbow.
03:14Oh, really?
03:15It's a nickname.
03:16A nickname?
03:17An elbow that was hurt by baseball is a baseball elbow.
03:19An elbow that was hurt by tennis is a tennis elbow.
03:21I see.
03:22An elbow that was hurt by something is a baseball elbow.
03:24Oh, I see.
03:25Mr. Itamai, you eat hundreds of sushi a day.
03:29You often hear that you have a lot of burden on your elbow.
03:32I heard that for the first time.
03:34I don't think it's that burdensome.
03:36In this case, what kind of elbow is Mr. Itamai?
03:38In that case, it's a sushi elbow.
03:41Sushi elbow?
03:42I've never heard of it.
03:44It's not an elbow sushi?
03:45It's not an elbow sushi.
03:46Then, what is an elbow sushi?
03:47An elbow sushi is a sushi with an elbow on the rice.
03:52This is an elbow sushi.
03:54I want to eat it.
03:55Why do you want to eat it?
03:56You don't want to eat it, do you?
03:57Whose elbow is that?
03:59It's Mr. Itamai's.
04:01Does Mr. Itamai hold the rice by himself, put his elbow on it, and make an elbow sushi?
04:05If there is an elbow sushi, I think so.
04:07Then, Mr. Itamai can't hold the sushi anymore.
04:10That's right.
04:12Then, it's the last sushi.
04:15I have no regrets in my sushi life.
04:19Do you eat it?
04:22If I order it, I'll eat it.
04:23Your elbow?
04:24I'll eat it.
04:25Machida ate it and hurt his elbow.
04:28In this case, it's Machida elbow.
04:31That's right.
04:33Machida hurt his elbow, so it's Machida elbow.
04:37It's not an elbow machida?
04:38It's not an elbow machida.
04:39Then, what is an elbow machida?
04:40An elbow machida has hundreds of pictures of my elbow.
04:43When I pull it out, it's a big machida.
04:48That's an elbow machida.
04:50I wear it as a T-shirt.
04:52I want to wear it.
04:54Thank you very much.
04:58Today's guest is the finalist of M-1 2024, A-BIRTH.
05:02Thank you very much.
05:07He is very popular.
05:10How did you feel when you saw the manzai?
05:14It was interesting.
05:15Thank you very much.
05:17I think he is good at it.
05:19It's a baseball term, so many women are attracted to it.
05:23Only men laugh at baseball jokes.
05:25That's right.
05:26It doesn't matter.
05:27It doesn't matter.
05:28It's like raising the level of words.
05:30He makes it so that everyone can understand it.
05:35I opened my mouth, but he made it.
05:40Where are you from?
05:42I'm from Miyagi prefecture.
05:44I'm a junior from Tokyo.
05:46I've been wondering about it for a long time.
05:47There was no one to go to the final.
05:49I'm glad.
05:50Other famous entertainers from Miyagi prefecture are Kano Eiko and Ogata.
05:55I'm not a serious person.
05:58Don't say that.
06:00Don't say that.
06:01I finally appeared.
06:04Do you admire them?
06:07I may be the most nervous.
06:11By the way, how many years has it been since you made your debut?
06:14It's been 9 years.
06:16It's been 10 years this year.
06:17It's been 10 years this year.
06:19Was it going well from the start?
06:21No, not at all.
06:22Even if it's not popular, people who are popular are evaluated by others.
06:28That's right.
06:29I thought it would be popular.
06:31I didn't think it was popular in the theater.
06:36Sasaki was in the baseball club until he graduated from Miyagi prefecture.
06:40He was in the baseball club in middle school in Kanagawa prefecture.
06:46They met at NSC and formed EVERS in 2016.
06:52What was it like when you made your debut?
06:57I asked them to testify.
07:02I'm OZWALD.
07:05Nice to meet you.
07:09OZWALD is 4 years older than him.
07:12They have known each other since EVERS was unknown to everyone.
07:16They called him to their concert.
07:19Did you ask him to testify?
07:20I felt like I had a reason to ask him to testify.
07:23Don't say that.
07:25OZWALD said,
07:27We are not who we are now without you.
07:29He said that to everyone.
07:32It's embarrassing.
07:33He said,
07:34It's funny, but it's not funny at all.
07:38He said that to everyone.
07:41He said,
07:42It's similar.
07:44Until the fourth or fifth year,
07:47No one knew.
07:49OZWALD was like that.
07:51OZWALD had a hard time.
07:54Now, EVERS is a regular player in the finals.
07:59He couldn't be in Yoshimoto's theater for a long time.
08:03M-1 was defeated in the first round in 2018 and 2020.
08:09Why didn't he play at that time?
08:12Maybe he wasn't good at it.
08:15He was good at acting.
08:17He had a good script.
08:19He just memorized the script.
08:21I didn't feel like I was talking to him.
08:24I still have the image that they are cheating.
08:28They were in a hurry all the time.
08:31I felt like they didn't play normally.
08:37These two also testified in the final of M-1 last year.
08:43Hello, I'm Watteris.
08:45Thank you for coming.
08:47In last year's M-1 Grand Prix,
08:49Watteris won the first round and was one step closer to the championship.
08:56In fact, EVERS and Watteris held a two-man live in 2024.
09:02They were good friends.
09:05That's amazing.
09:06They went to the training camp together.
09:09What was your impression before the results came out?
09:12It was emotional.
09:13When I watched EVERS' videos in the past,
09:16he was called a baseball player.
09:19I thought it was funny.
09:20But I didn't know he was called a baseball player.
09:24They both like baseball.
09:27This is a video of him when he was a fan of baseball.
09:30Nice to meet you.
09:32Nice to meet you, too.
09:33You got it, right?
09:34I see.
09:35It's just right.
09:36It's not at the level of Osada and Haru.
09:37It's just right.
09:38Okay.
09:39Then...
09:40Satozaki of Lotte?
09:41I'm done talking about the home run.
09:43I'm done talking about the home run.
09:45If it's about the home run, Satozaki of Lotte is just right.
09:48Really?
09:49I'll give you 100 points.
09:50But I'm asking you to give me the name of a cute entertainer.
09:52I didn't get it at all.
09:54I didn't get it at all.
09:55Do you have any customers?
09:56You did it well.
09:57I'm out of eyesight, so I'd better wear glasses right now.
09:59Oh, really?
10:00I'll talk about it later.
10:01Oh, you'd better wear glasses.
10:03Then, Furuta of Yakult?
10:04That's not what I mean.
10:05Furuta?
10:06Don't make me cry.
10:08I'm embarrassed.
10:09I'm embarrassed.
10:10Don't make me cry.
10:11I'm wearing glasses for you.
10:12Then, Oda of Chūnichi?
10:13Don't make me cry.
10:14Oda of Chūnichi?
10:15Shut up! Shut up!
10:16Shut up! Shut up!
10:17It's not time to announce the name of the catcher who is wearing glasses right now.
10:20Oh, really?
10:21Oh, really?
10:22It's over.
10:23What kind of customers will come?
10:26I didn't get it at all.
10:28I didn't get it at all.
10:29But you two are playing baseball, so you can share the fun, right?
10:34That's right.
10:35Sasaki is playing baseball, so he can't think of any jokes.
10:41He can't think of any jokes.
10:43I see.
10:44He can't think of any jokes.
10:45I've never made my classmates laugh when I play baseball.
10:47I see.
10:48When I play baseball, there are only female audience.
10:52I've never made a girl laugh.
10:54I see.
10:56I really didn't know.
10:57You can make a girl laugh.
10:58You can make a girl laugh.
10:59You can make a girl laugh.
11:01However, when he talked to the person, he found out the reason why he couldn't get a good result.
11:08What was the turning point for Evers?
11:13It was the Jimbo-cho Yoshimoto Manzai Theater, which Evers built in the 4th year.
11:20It became a theater centered on young people, and the number of jokes and corners increased dramatically.
11:27It's because of my father.
11:28Evers has increased the number of stages.
11:30They have been able to stand on the stage hundreds of times a year and have been able to improve their skills.
11:35The jokes that were originally interesting are becoming more and more interesting.
11:38That's great.
11:39In addition, there is another reason why they started to receive the jokes.
11:44It's a common thing, but there aren't many times when we stand on the plain.
11:49We have to go up to the Yoshimoto theater.
11:54I think that's why the number of Jimbo-cho has increased.
11:58I think that's why the number of Jimbo-cho has increased.
12:04Their Manzai has evolved like that.
12:09Both are under the cherry tree.
12:11The place where the cherry tree was was destroyed five years ago.
12:16A large shopping mall was built there.
12:19Where should I wait for this?
12:22Should I buy a land?
12:25The baseball joke has come to this story.
12:30I think Sasaki is completely different from the old days.
12:33He is good at putting things in order.
12:36It's like they're just proposing to each other infinitely.
12:40That's why it's so funny.
12:42I went to eat with Sasaki a few times.
12:45I think he's thinking about the story very well.
12:49It's like Sasaki is holding the initiative.
12:52It's completely different from the story.
12:54It's 100-0.
12:55100-0?
12:57You didn't even set up the story.
12:59I didn't set up the story.
13:01It's obvious.
13:03What are you talking about?
13:05You can put it out.
13:06What are you talking about?
13:08It's not boring.
13:10Even if I can make a story, I'll put it together with the ad-lib.
13:15There may be things you didn't expect.
13:18I'm just saying what I'm thinking.
13:20I don't know how to put it in.
13:22It's all wrong.
13:24There's no such thing as a mistake.
13:26There's a story that Sasaki didn't expect.
13:30It's like a wake-up call.
13:32That's right.
13:33I put out a story that I didn't expect.
13:37It's 100-0.
13:39That's amazing.
13:40That was a great idea.
13:42It's a power word.
13:44I put out a story.
13:47I only put out one story in 9 years.
13:49I only put out one story in 9 years.
13:51I only put out one story in 9 years.
13:53February next year is not URUDOSHI.
13:56Which one is it?
13:59February 28th or March 1st?
14:03Which one do you think it is?
14:05I think it's Matsujime.
14:07Matsujime.
14:09Matsujime.
14:11The aces praised the technique of Matsujime.
14:17Matsujime's weight.
14:21He's been strong for a long time.
14:25Matsujime's face and tone.
14:29I think it's Matsujime.
14:31I think it's Matsujime.
14:35Even during the two-man live, Batteries felt the strong momentum of EVERSE.
14:43The voices around me were losing.
14:47I was thinking about how to beat them.
14:49I was thinking about how to beat them.
14:51Every time we had two-man, I felt the excitement.
14:56I was thinking about how to beat them.
14:59I was thinking about how to beat them.
15:02EVERSE, who was defeated in the first round in M-1 in 2020,
15:07has been gaining a lot of popularity.
15:12Last year, EVERSE's popularity surpassed OZWALD's.
15:16I hope you find it.
15:18If I search myself, I will be told that OZWALD is the guardian of EVERSE.
15:23I don't think so.
15:25I don't think so.
15:28I want you to find it.
15:29I want you to find it.
15:31It seems difficult to catch them and take them to heaven.
15:36It seems difficult to catch them and take them to heaven.
15:40I see.
15:41It's important.
15:43The existence of OZWALD is good.
15:47Without OZWALD, I think I would have retired.
15:53Why?
15:54No one will respect him.
15:56He lost in the first round.
15:57Well, that's because it's a place where ordinary people fall, right?
15:59Yes, that's right.
16:00It's a strange story, isn't it?
16:00From an amateur, right?
16:02However, Mr. Oswald was the only one who talked to me about how interesting you guys were.
16:07Ehhhhh?
16:09There was a live where seniors and juniors performed a shuffle in a separate combination.
16:14At that time, Mr. Ito from Oswald asked me to do it.
16:18Oh!
16:19He gave me about a week to come up with a story.
16:22So I made a story, and I said this, but if you say this, what do you think?
16:28He really taught me the meaning of each line.
16:34Like, this doesn't make sense.
16:35It's like a lesson.
16:36He taught me Iroha of Shabekkuri Manzai there.
16:39Wow!
16:40That's why.
16:41You told me a great story, didn't you?
16:44That's right.
16:45I'm sure there are people who want to keep it a secret.
16:47That's right.
16:48How to make it.
16:49Thanks to that, I was able to win against Mr. Oswald last year.
16:53Wow!
16:54You didn't get to talk to Oswald, did you?
16:56Is it hard to talk to him?
16:58Or did you go to talk to him on purpose?
17:00Oh, but Mr. Ito talked to me while crying.
17:04Ehhhhh?
17:05I was crying.
17:06Mr. Ito is hot.
17:08These two were crying.
17:10I was watching from a distance.
17:13I was watching from a distance.
17:15I was crying.
17:16There's no pain in thinking about a story.
17:18Why are you crying?
17:21After this.
17:22There is a rumor that Machida is the only young entertainer who is playing now.
17:26Oswald testifies to Machida's woman-like side.
17:34The two began to produce results as a manzai artist.
17:38It seems that the fun as a human being that does not stop only in the story is still hidden.
17:44There is a rumor that Machida is the only young entertainer who is playing now.
17:48After this, I haven't been able to play as an entertainer.
17:54There is a rumor that Machida is the only young entertainer who is playing now.
17:56He looks like he would look good in a role play.
17:58He looks like he would look good in a role play.
17:59In addition, there is a surprising testimony about Sasaki.
18:03Sasaki is really stupid.
18:06He is really stupid.
18:09He looks smart.
18:11A manzai artist couldn't write in kanji.
18:15Sasaki has only played baseball.
18:19Sasaki is cute and attractive.
18:24Evers finally began to get attention.
18:27From now on, the charm of the two will be transmitted.
18:30Evers will be more and more active as an entertainer.
18:36I play a lot.
18:38I don't play a lot.
18:40I want to show that young entertainers are energetic.
18:43All the juniors who take me to dinner are female entertainers.
18:49Do you want to be surrounded by female entertainers?
18:51Of course, that's right.
18:54That's a lie.
18:56I don't like juniors at all.
18:59That's true.
19:00I tell my seniors to drink with a female entertainer.
19:05You are a shameless person.
19:07You don't have such a bad reputation.
19:09I have a bad reputation.
19:11You don't have a bad reputation.
19:13You don't have a bad reputation.
19:15I get a call from the company at 11 a.m.
19:19I have a swollen face.
19:22I have never been late.
19:25I have never been late.
19:29You have a swollen face.
19:33It's easy for your face to get tired.
19:36That's why my customers laugh.
19:38They laugh because my face is swollen.
19:40That's right.
19:41That's why my customers laugh.
19:43That's a long story.
19:45That's a long story.
19:47I think I will fall in love with you soon.
19:49I think I will fall in love with you soon.
19:51I heard that you lived together.
19:54That's right.
19:56We lived together for about five years.
20:00That's not the first time.
20:02That's not the first time.
20:04That's the worst timing.
20:07It's like dating and getting married.
20:09That's right.
20:10Why?
20:11It was the time of COVID-19.
20:13I was making money on Uber Eats.
20:16You didn't have a stage.
20:18I lived in my parents' house in Kanagawa.
20:21I came to the city every time to Uber Eats.
20:26I didn't want to go to my parents' house, so I stayed at my house.
20:30I stayed there once a week.
20:33I stayed there twice a week.
20:35I stayed there three times a week.
20:37Wait a minute. He is a couple.
20:39That's amazing.
20:40It's a natural beginning of same-sex love.
20:42Did you pay half of the rent?
20:44I told my mother that I would pay half of the rent.
20:47You came to your mother's house.
20:49It's not a big house, is it?
20:51That's right. I lived in a kitchen.
20:53I lived in a kitchen.
20:54I lived in a room and a kitchen.
20:56I lived in a dining room and a kitchen.
20:59There was nothing there.
21:01There was nothing there, except a unit bus.
21:04There was nothing in the room.
21:07There was no TV.
21:09There were four walls and one big window.
21:12It was very cold in winter and a lot of heat in summer.
21:14There is a cardboard box in your room.
21:16It's in my room.
21:17Can you open the box?
21:19I can't open it at all.
21:21I can't open it a millimeter.
21:23I had a hard time when I was alone.
21:26I was wondering if I should open up Sasaki's room and have him sleep in it.
21:30If you're thinking 100 and it's 0, then power balance isn't 0 either.
21:34After this, Date announces that he's waiting!
21:41I think I'm at my lowest level of manzai right now.
21:43It's really interesting.
21:49If you're talking about power balance, Sando-san is at 5-5, right?
21:54But you know, Date-chan is strict about that.
21:57There's a line between what to say and what not to say.
22:00That's amazing.
22:02I think we have a more natural relationship.
22:05If you're thinking 100 and it's 0, then power balance isn't 0 either.
22:08Sorry, but it's not 0.
22:10That's different. It's different from you.
22:13You have to come up with a setting.
22:15You have to come up with a setting.
22:16You have to come up with a setting.
22:17So you're the one who makes the base?
22:19I'm the one who decides what to say and what not to say.
22:22I see.
22:25You don't have a choice?
22:27It's not that I don't have a choice, I just don't think about it.
22:29Every time, I'm asked what I'm going to do with my sleeves.
22:33But I'm like, what should I do?
22:35It's like you're thinking about it.
22:37No, no, it's fine.
22:39Even if I say something, I'm told it's wrong.
22:41When I'm asked what I think is good, I'm like, how about this?
22:43I'm like, how about this?
22:44I'm like, how about this?
22:45It's totally different.
22:46There's an answer.
22:47You don't know all the answers.
22:49You're being tested.
22:51You have to say it.
22:53Even if it's wrong, you're like, how about this?
22:55That's how it is.
22:57I've been through it a few times.
22:59When Sasaki told me not to do it,
23:01I did it in real life.
23:03But it was all wrong.
23:05You got the result.
23:07Sometimes you have to challenge the boss.
23:09I want him to do it.
23:11I want him to keep doing it.
23:13I want him to keep doing it.
23:15If he doesn't do it, it's over.
23:17If he doesn't do it, it's over.
23:19It's all about the slip.
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