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00:00Very well. Patricia, how are you? How are you?
00:02How are you, Eduardo?
00:03How are you, Minister?
00:04How are you?
00:05All good?
00:06All good.
00:07All calm or not?
00:08Well...
00:09Isn't it the worst week of the government since the President took office?
00:12With this scandal...
00:14Well, there are some moments in which there are situations that escalate a lot,
00:21but on the other hand, when you see that we voted for the three most important laws of security in the last 20 years,
00:33if you see that yesterday there was also an electoral law, that the fiscal surplus was announced,
00:41that the prices did not move, that the stability of Argentina and all the citizens
00:46experienced a problem with the announcement or the dissemination made by the President of this cryptocurrency,
00:56but you see real Argentina...
01:00Well, it's a storm.
01:02And from the storm it rises, it dawns and rises with...
01:06Is it a storm? Would you qualify it as a political storm, then?
01:11It's a... let's see...
01:14All the crows grab on to the subject, give it dimension,
01:22but something caught my attention yesterday, and that is that the dimension was not so much,
01:30because otherwise we could have been sessioned,
01:33take out four laws in the middle of a situation like this...
01:37Key, four laws.
01:39Key, key.
01:41And they already came with a single ticket.
01:43Yesterday we changed the Safaroni theory, and so with the anti-mafia law.
01:46Now we are going to go with that, not only with that, but also with reiteration.
01:50Reiteration. So I feel that what appeared as something that was going to be installed for a long time,
02:00it seems to me that, well, the President had an explanation, closed the subject,
02:06explained that he had had, in some way, a naive look,
02:11because he behaved the same as when he was not President, in this idea of citizenship.
02:18Do you think he was deceived by these characters?
02:20No, no, no, I think he believes in these things, and he said it.
02:25Now, one, because it is within an economy that is rare, that we do not know, I do not know it.
02:33The one of the crypts.
02:35Now, a president is going to inaugurate a car factory, a laboratory, he goes to a bank,
02:42and that does not mean that he tells people to go and deposit their savings in this bank,
02:48or buy such a car of such a brand.
02:50Do you think that happened, with that postage?
02:52I think it was a postage to, let's say, sincerely fund companies.
03:00I saw it in Silicon Valley, this.
03:03I saw how crypto systems fund digital, computer companies,
03:11of extravagant, new projects, and well, some are good for them and others are bad for them.
03:20Now, they are installing that Milei is a swindler.
03:26Well, but the truth is that it is like a great exaggeration of a group that is always exactly the same.
03:37And then, when that group is installed and starts talking,
03:42I think it fully legitimizes President Milei.
03:47Because when Cristina comes out, when Parrilli comes out, when everyone comes out.
03:53Yesterday, something strange happened in the parliament, right?
03:57Cute.
03:58That is, even many of those who had proposed an investigative commission said,
04:04we are going to get involved with these who have emptied the country.
04:09Ah, they didn't want to play the game of Kirchnerism, basically.
04:12Of course, of course.
04:13And in the end, many radicals from the province of Corrientes,
04:18from the province of Chaco, from the province of Santa Fe,
04:21and from the province of Mendoza, with their governors, ended up saying,
04:26let's not play the game.
04:28So, it seems to me that everything is calmer.
04:31Yes, the international markets, the truth is not.
04:33Some believed that it was going to hit hard there because of the credibility of the president.
04:37Yes, what happens is that they are still very new currencies that do not have, let's say,
04:42they are not the real economy.
04:44Now, there are presidents who are all the time, let's see,
04:48Bukele even at some point said, we are going to use crypto in the economy of El Salvador.
04:53Yes, with Bitcoin.
04:54With Bitcoin.
04:55But that's a serious currency.
04:57This delivers, the truth is, it looks like a meme coin, a mamarracho, right?
05:01But if it is serious or not serious, it is also known as things settle, right?
05:08Yes, yes.
05:09It could have been serious if it had let it ripen a little, right?
05:14Let's talk about what happened yesterday and this of throwing away all the Safaroni theories.
05:23How long have we been fighting, right?
05:26And I, from the media, alone.
05:28How long have we been fighting?
05:30The Facho Feynman.
05:31The Facho Feynman.
05:34Well, the truth is that, let's see, the law against mafias is a very, very important change to what is the Safaroni theory.
05:44First, it takes the organizations as such.
05:48If you belong to an organization, a person belongs to an organization and commits a crime,
05:54the whole organization, everyone, be it, let's say, the center, I don't know, a hitman of an organization,
06:04the one who sells drugs, the one who launders money, the one who transports it, the one who brings it from the border,
06:11all that organization falls together.
06:15And since we are no longer with a more and more accusatory system, that the prosecutors are the ones who work,
06:22the prosecutor is going to say, the Argentine state against the XX organization.
06:28He is not going to say against Juan Pablo Cantero, no, he is going to say against the XX organization.
06:36The monkeys.
06:37The monkeys, let's put the monkeys.
06:39So that means that everyone who comes in and out is going to be involved.
06:44In each of those roles.
06:46Of course, and there are also very important procedural measures.
06:50If you can have a person for 48 hours, let's say the police can have, the security forces can have a person for 48 hours
06:59so that others do not know what is happening,
07:04so that a narco lawyer does not come and after two minutes he finds out absolutely everything that is happening.
07:11Or a common lawyer, but in general the lawyers of the narcos are narcos.
07:16And then, up to 15 days later, already with the knowledge of the prosecutor.
07:23It means, and then you can make chained raids.
07:28I make a raid, I discover something, well, I do another and I do another.
07:33So this facilitates the task against the organizations in a very, very important way.
07:40And it extracts the whole organization.
07:42And the penalty that the delinquent is taken, that one grabs, for example, doing drug delivery.
07:48One says, no, the drug delivery is two years.
07:51It's menudeo.
07:52Now stop.
07:53Now this of the menudeo is over.
07:56It belonged to the organization and if the maximum, and if the one who is in prison in the organization is 20 years old,
08:02the delivery is 20 years old too.
08:04In other words, the whole chain.
08:06The whole chain.
08:07From the fat fish to the smallest fish.
08:09Everything.
08:10That's what it's about.
08:11Because many times the little one is a murderer who, in that delivery, kills people in order to manage the territory.
08:20So the concept of criminal organization, of organized crime, of anti-mafia.
08:25We put anti-mafia because we had a lot to do with the help that the Italians gave us with the anti-mafia law.
08:33It is also the rich law of the United States.
08:35Is this only for narcos or is it for all kinds of mafias?
08:38No, no, no. It is for all crimes that may be linked.
08:41Kidnapping followed by death, hitmen, murder.
08:45Let's say, not the common homicide, but the hitmen.
08:49Human trafficking.
08:50Human trafficking.
08:51The number of crimes that I have washed of assets linked to the cause, to the organization, is really very wide.
09:02So really the leap is huge.
09:05Huge.
09:06Huge.
09:07We have turned the safari theory around like this.
09:09And the other is the issue of reiteration, right?
09:12Well, reiteration is impressive.
09:16Why?
09:17Because if there is something that people have been telling us for years, it is,
09:22come in and go out, come in and go out, I see them on the corner of my house,
09:26they come and threaten me, they threaten my family.
09:29In addition to having stolen from me, they threaten my family, they threaten me.
09:33And the same police were rotten, right?
09:36They go, they stop them.
09:37They go, they stop them, they go back home.
09:39At 5 o'clock.
09:40They stop them, they have to accompany them in the police car.
09:42Well, here, that was because the reincidence was waiting for the end of a...
09:49The sentence.
09:50Of a firm sentence.
09:51That is, there were three instances.
09:54Three years had passed.
09:56And the person entered, let's say, 15 times.
09:5915 times that he stopped her.
10:01How many more crimes would he have committed that he did not stop her?
10:04Totally.
10:05So, that person, let's say he imprisons her,
10:10he stops her for an unpunishable crime.
10:14Armed robbery.
10:15Well, we're going to let that be unpunishable,
10:19because the one who goes out with a gun on the street,
10:21that's the project we're sending now.
10:23I think it's great.
10:24A gun comes out on the street.
10:25Like in the United States, you have the gun on your waist,
10:27five years in prison, period.
10:28Sure.
10:29You didn't even take it out.
10:30It doesn't matter.
10:31Sure.
10:32You had the intention of going out with a gun...
10:34Obviously.
10:35...to do something that is not...
10:36Obviously.
10:37...holy.
10:38It's clear.
10:39So, and the one who has the legal weapon is something else.
10:43So, now, from now on, it's going to be like this.
10:48Let's say that the first crime is punishable.
10:52The second, we don't need the sentence.
10:55Reiterate the crime inside.
10:57Inside.
10:58And it doesn't come out.
10:59The objective is that people feel that there is no impunity
11:04that the criminal, who is surrounded by the apple,
11:07returns to the neighborhood the next day.
11:09Very good.
11:10Now, what Gaby always says, and now we're going to talk,
11:12obviously, he has a lot of questions.
11:14A great specialist.
11:15Obviously.
11:16But the subject, what we talked about with Gaby today on the radio,
11:18is, okay, fantastic.
11:19The reintegration law is great.
11:21Now, the amount of detentions that are going to be,
11:23where are they taking them, the prisoners?
11:25Are there prisons?
11:26As far as I see, I don't care.
11:27What do you mean?
11:28And where are you going to put them?
11:29Well, we're going to be making prisons.
11:31We're going to have to speed up construction.
11:34We already have the first private prison project that is underway.
11:38There are going to be private people who are interested in making prisons.
11:43The Bukele prison did it in eight months.
11:46So we're going to have to have faster constructions.
11:50Faster.
11:51Faster.
11:52And I tell you that the Bukele prison ...
11:55It also has impressive technology.
11:57No, no.
11:58Technology.
11:59And it has some walls that ...
12:01No one can drill them.
12:03No, it's impressive.
12:05They are so impressive.
12:07So it's an economic prison, but very safe.
12:13And it also has a signal inhibitor,
12:16which we are now making a bid for,
12:19that no signal enters.
12:22No signal enters.
12:23Nothing.
12:24So that they continue to commit crimes with this in prison.
12:26Of course.
12:27And well, of course, they won't be able to use it either.
12:30There are other communication systems for prisoners.
12:34But the important thing for us ...
12:39It is true that we do not have enough prisons,
12:41but what do you prefer?
12:43A criminal on the street stealing
12:46or a criminal who does not have the best conditions in prison,
12:51but who is not stealing
12:53but who is not on the street,
12:54killing motorcyclists,
12:56throwing a big lady on the street.
12:58So, of course, we will hurry.
13:01That is, the condition is going to give.
13:04We are going to have to make more prisons.
13:06But I prefer to have the criminal in prison
13:09than not the criminal on the street.
13:10Yes, the issue is that if you are in a police station in the city of Buenos Aires
13:12and then the prisoners escape,
13:13it was your fault for that.
13:15I ...
13:17Well, that's what I was saying.
13:19Thank goodness they agreed.
13:21They are from the same party.
13:23But we agreed a long time ago.
13:25And when they have a problem, they jump and accuse.
13:28When one has a problem, he has to go to jail.
13:32That's why he is a Minister of Security.
13:34Let's say, on December 12,
13:37we signed a letter of intent with Jorge Macri
13:40to pass him the penitentiary service.
13:43We were in the last details,
13:46but in the last details,
13:48he was saying, well, what prison is going, how much is it worth,
13:51we value everything, we did everything with economy,
13:55we talked to Toto Caputo,
13:56he told us, well, this is what is worth,
13:58he helped us with the measurement of ...
14:01Well, you have to pass him prisons, penitentiaries, prisoners, everything.
14:09And suddenly they have the first problem and they accuse.
14:12It's not like that.
14:13So I said, don't accuse me,
14:15because I swear to God that no prisoner enters this prison.
14:18Because here things have to be clear, transparent,
14:21and we have to do things right.
14:24And we are ready to sign.
14:26We are missing nothing.
14:27Ok. Gaby?
14:28How are you Patricia? Good afternoon.
14:30Good afternoon, Doctor.
14:31Well, highlighting and celebrating the sanction of the laws,
14:33first of all, all, reiteration,
14:35some that modify the criminal code,
14:37others of the procedural code, etc.,
14:39absence trial, anti-mafia,
14:40I bring you some questions of an operative nature.
14:43The first has to do with what Eduardo highlighted.
14:45Taking as a parameter what happened at the time with the flagrance,
14:48we can assume that the amount of inmates in prisons
14:52or prisoners in federal prisons for national or federal crimes
14:55will increase by 15 or 20% on average.
14:58The Penitentiary Prosecutor's Office, within the control bodies,
15:02has been saying that the Federal Penitentiary Service
15:04has 5% excess detainees.
15:06How are you going to manage, I agree with you,
15:08that they are detained, no one wants them to be,
15:10that they cross the door.
15:11How are you going to manage the judicial issues
15:13and the criminal control bodies?
15:16Well, first of all, we have spoken with all the judges and prosecutors
15:21and the truth is that we are having a huge collaboration
15:24with the Habeas Corpus,
15:26because we have had,
15:28every day we have Habeas Corpus for anything
15:31and really there is a collaboration
15:33because it is known that there is a strong work
15:36that we have had to do,
15:38to get some penitentiary places
15:40to have the high-risk sectors,
15:42where we have all the most important drug lords in Argentina
15:47and not only in Rosario,
15:49because they have started to send us from the province of Buenos Aires,
15:52from Córdoba, from Mendoza,
15:55from different places they have sent us,
15:57from Chubut, because they know that there
15:59we have them in a special regime.
16:01We have some places in the south,
16:04that is why in this transfer that we are doing to the city of Buenos Aires,
16:08that we are going to send 5,000 prisoners,
16:10that is to say that the penitentiary service
16:12is going to be left with half
16:14and it is going to have a good number of places.
16:16What happens is that the judges are going to have to know
16:20that the judges, let's say,
16:23that the national justice puts prisoners,
16:26as it happens today,
16:28today we have 2,500 prisoners
16:30from the city of Buenos Aires,
16:32who committed the crime in the city of Buenos Aires,
16:34who are in the prisons of the south.
16:36So they will go to the prison of Cenillosa,
16:39the abusers, where we have a prison of abusers,
16:42they will go to Rawson,
16:44until the city takes all its prisoners,
16:48that this would have to happen in the next 5 months.
16:51If they take all their prisoners,
16:53we would have enough vacancies
16:56in the federal penitentiary service
16:58And remember that the Anti-Mafia Law,
17:02what it has, is that one generates
17:04the declaration of an area.
17:06It is not the whole country
17:08that governs the law all the time.
17:10One takes an area.
17:12Let's start with Rosario,
17:14let's continue with Moreno,
17:16let's continue with San Martín
17:18and Lomas de Zamora.
17:20We declare four areas
17:22that fall under the Anti-Mafia Law.
17:26Well, we will be able to absorb
17:28that amount of prisoners.
17:30And I think most of them
17:32are going to go to pretty tough regimes.
17:36Two questions in line with what you say.
17:40The Anti-Mafia Law,
17:42about 14 or 15 articles have already been sanctioned,
17:44we hope to publish them in the official bulletin.
17:46Crimes occur in the south,
17:48the RAM, for example.
17:50Those detained by the Anti-Mafia Law
17:52committed by facts in the south,
17:54are they going to go to Brazil
17:56or are they going to go to high risk
17:58and come to Buenos Aires?
18:00Well, let's see,
18:02the fundamental issue,
18:04the Anti-Mafia Law
18:06is a law against organized crime.
18:08I believe that Ayones Huala,
18:10for the declaration we made
18:12of a terrorist group,
18:14corresponds to the Anti-Terrorist Law,
18:16which is, according to the crime committed,
18:18twice the penalty
18:20for being a terrorist action.
18:22Very good.
18:24So, in this case,
18:26the evaluation that has to be done
18:28is what the risk of escape is.
18:30If the risk of escape is a high risk,
18:34we take it to high risk.
18:36If the risk of escape is low,
18:38we do not take it to high risk.
18:40Because it depends on the risk of escape.
18:42In general, when we had him
18:44in the Esquela prison,
18:46Ayones Huala,
18:48we did not have a risk of escape.
18:50He was very careful,
18:52with more guards than other detainees,
18:54but in general,
18:56he never tried to escape.
18:58But he is going to face
19:00a very strong sentence
19:02because the group has been declared a terrorist
19:04and he is the head of that group.
19:06The last question for me,
19:08sorry Edu,
19:10within the restructuring
19:12of the Federal Penitentiary Service,
19:14which you mentioned,
19:16there will be fewer detainees,
19:18will there be more prisons
19:20in sectors where organized crime
19:22works more strongly?
19:24Yes, the idea we have
19:26of the Federal Penitentiary System
19:28is that all the prisoners
19:30of low sentences
19:32are removed
19:34and the prisoners of high sentences
19:36and the prisoners who try to be violent
19:38or the prisoners who try to manage
19:40the criminal business
19:42from prison are concentrated.
19:44What we are doing with the provinces
19:46is to exchange.
19:48I can have a federal prisoner
19:50who has a two-year sentence
19:52for having smoked a certain drug,
19:54but individually
19:56he is not a person
19:58who belongs to an organization,
20:00he is not a dangerous prisoner.
20:02That prisoner can stay
20:04in a provincial prison.
20:06Now, I get out of that provincial prison
20:08to the order breaker,
20:10to the drug lord,
20:12to the murderer who wants to kill anyone,
20:14who wants to dominate the street.
20:16That is, in five years
20:18we want
20:20the Federal Penitentiary Service
20:22to be a totally specialized service
20:24in sentences of 15 years
20:26or more
20:28of the whole country
20:30and that the country will have prisons
20:32with less violence.
20:34Then we can do penitentiary treatment
20:36and reinsertion
20:38in the provincial prisons
20:40that will have
20:42prisoners with less
20:44problems
20:46and concentration of high-risk prisoners
20:48dangerous,
20:50violent,
20:52some are terrible
20:56within the Federal Penitentiary Service.
20:58Because the Federal Penitentiary Service
21:00was conceived as a service
21:02that was only in federal territories.
21:04So what do we have
21:06as an idea? Four large
21:08penitentiary centers.
21:10One in the south, Patagonia.
21:12One, let's say,
21:14in the central area,
21:16Mendoza,
21:18Córdoba.
21:20Another
21:22in the whole strong drug area
21:24that we have, which is
21:26the coastal area, Misiones.
21:30We already have a new prison
21:32in Güemes, Salta.
21:34And the centers that are
21:36in the city of Buenos Aires, which are
21:382 places away from the city of Havana,
21:40that we are already
21:42working on.
21:46And the other is in El Cervo.
21:48The Southern Border together with
21:50the surrounding area.
21:54That would be the concept
21:56of the Federal Penitentiary Service.
22:00Minister, is the province of Buenos Aires
22:02a bloodbath?
22:04Well, the province of Buenos Aires
22:06They are a little higher, but the issue is that the concentration of the crime in certain
22:14areas causes there to be uninhabitable areas, Moreno, San Martín, Loma de Zamora, Esteban
22:20Echeverría.
22:21There are many areas in which, for example, Moreno has a homicide rate of 8, that is,
22:30twice that of the country.
22:31Today I was in Moreno, we knocked down two bunkers.
22:35Now let's talk about the bunkers, because I have my cell phone there.
22:38Padovani, how are you?
22:39How are you?
22:41Eduardo, good afternoon.
22:42We are here in La Matanza, a protest of neighbors, of inhabitants of La Matanza, who have gathered
22:50here in front of the municipality of La Matanza.
22:53Let's see, let's listen.
22:55Let's talk to some of the neighbors, Edu, if you like.
22:58Yes, of course.
22:59Sir, how is the situation here in La Matanza?
23:03No, terrible.
23:04La Matanza, terrible.
23:05There is no security.
23:07The justice and politicians are guarantors here in La Matanza and we want the bullets
23:11to be for the chorro and not for our family.
23:13Yes, here he says it.
23:14What does this poster mean?
23:15Let's see, tell me.
23:16Let the bullets go to the chorro.
23:19Would you go out armed in the street?
23:20I go out armed in the street.
23:21I am willing to kill him, obviously, yes.
23:23Are you willing to kill?
23:24I go out armed in the street, every day.
23:26You have to defend yourself.
23:27Let's see, tell me, tell me.
23:28You have to defend yourself.
23:29Because the police arrive later and if they arrive, they have to go back to the culture of defense.
23:34No one defends you here.
23:35We want to know where Spinoza lives because Spinoza does not feel the problems of the neighbors.
23:39Look at the flag.
23:40Look at all the faces here.
23:41Yes, this is what we are going to show, Eduardo, impressive.
23:44Look here, these are all the victims of insecurity here on time.
23:48Let's see, tell me.
23:49Spinoza lives in Villa Luz Uriaga, but we don't know where he lives.
23:51The problem of all the neighbors of La Matanza.
23:53He doesn't suffer from it.
23:55Spinoza doesn't come.
23:56He never shows his face.
23:57He never shows his face.
23:58Tell me, tell me.
23:59He lives in Puerto Madero.
24:00He lives in Puerto Madero, Spinoza.
24:01He came to La Matanza.
24:02You live here, dad.
24:03This is your municipality.
24:04You govern here.
24:05You don't govern Puerto Madero.
24:06They are killing all the neighbors every day.
24:07Where are you?
24:08Take charge, you and the governor.
24:09Well, I told you, Edu.
24:10This Argentine flag is with the photos of, well, I would tell you, dozens, dozens of
24:17victims of insecurity here on time.
24:21Unfortunately, it is the situation that, according to some neighbors, if you want to
24:27say something, sir, tell me.
24:28I see you here.
24:29My son was murdered in Vélez.
24:30I belong to a victim's family NGO where we ask for a job table in the municipality
24:35and well, unfortunately, we are not lucky with the situation.
24:38We are not lucky.
24:39We are not lucky.
24:40We are not lucky.
24:41We are not lucky.
24:42We are not lucky.
24:43We are not lucky.
24:44We are not lucky.
24:45We are not lucky.
24:46We are not lucky.
24:47We are not lucky.
24:48We are not lucky.
24:50Thank you, sir.
24:51Very kind, huh?
24:52Well, that's the situation, Edu, this afternoon, Friday, at this time, I mean, here at the
24:55slaughterhouse.
24:56Hug.
24:57Thank you, huh?
24:58Tremendous.
24:59Well, yes, let's see.
25:00This thing that people go to the army to defend themselves is tremendous.
25:05Well, one of the gentlemen said that the problem with the slaughterhouse is that it is a guarantor.
25:09Yes.
25:10I think the problem with the slaughterhouse is much deeper, and it is that all the
25:15that have security is part of the problem.
25:18Of course.
25:19They have to get them all out.
25:21Are you talking only about Matanza or the province of Quisilos?
25:24Well, in the province there are many problems.
25:27Because it is also guaranteed.
25:29Yes, let's say the province is guaranteed.
25:35It always talks about the victims' children.
25:39And the society is to blame.
25:41No law supported us. None of these came out for them.
25:44Now, if they use it, hopefully.
25:47But they will have to admit that they have problems in a certain area.
25:50Because the governor has to put his fingers.
25:52Of course.
25:53Now, in Matanza, the problem is that there are ex-police officers
26:00who handle security.
26:02They are part of the problem.
26:06One can never negotiate with the criminal.
26:10Totally.
26:11The criminal is the enemy.
26:13The enemy of society.
26:15And the police have to be on this side.
26:18And there can't be...
26:20If the political power is not clear where it is,
26:23the police are not clear where to go either.
26:26And they say, well, I'll take advantage of it.
26:28So we have to do a job on the intermediate political leadership
26:34and the relationship it has with the police,
26:38which is killing the possibility of having an exit to the province of Buenos Aires.
26:44Tell me about the drug bunkers you found.
26:46Where? In Moreno?
26:47Where was it?
26:48Well, we find them every day.
26:50Last year, the federal forces alone in the great Buenos Aires
26:55did 6,524 procedures.
27:016,524.
27:04Now we are going to start showing you everything that is done.
27:09Today we threw down two bunkers.
27:12The shovel is from the municipality.
27:16That is, they realized that they had to start putting things in order.
27:20Can I tell you something that they say from the opposition when they see this type of images?
27:25It's stupidity.
27:27Go with the shovel, throw the bunker, another bunker is born on the other side.
27:32What do you say to that?
27:34That the work against the drug is not to exterminate the drug,
27:41because it will not be exterminated.
27:43The work against the drug is to make life impossible for them.
27:47This house, look at it, was the most beautiful house in the neighborhood.
27:52What did the neighbors say with whom I was talking?
27:55I'm talking to the neighbors.
27:57What did the neighbors say?
27:59He came to the most beautiful house in the neighborhood.
28:01He was crazy about the most beautiful house in the neighborhood,
28:04which was also in a corridor,
28:06and every day everyone went in to buy there,
28:11and we had to accept that the drug dealer had more money than any citizen.
28:18So, throwing the house down ...
28:20That is a humble neighborhood.
28:21It is a humble neighborhood, but of houses.
28:23It is not a village, it is a humble neighborhood.
28:25So, what is important about this?
28:28We show them that even if the best house is built,
28:32we throw it down.
28:34It is a very strong symbol to throw down a house,
28:37that one says, oh, look, someone could live there.
28:40No, because they are going to come back right away.
28:42No, you have to hit them, you have to hit them,
28:45stop them, get the drug out of them, get the money out of them,
28:48and break the bunkers.
28:50What hurts them the most is the GITA, right?
28:53Well ...
28:54Out there the drug does not, but the GITA ...
28:57And some are imprisoned and isolated.
29:01Because when we arrived, the prison was a carnival.
29:06Yes, Cantero was a joda, for example, I don't know.
29:09It was a carnival.
29:10No one worked inside the prison.
29:12It was a carnival.
29:13Now we are organizing, I don't know if from one day to the next,
29:16but we are organizing, we are working with the penitentiary service,
29:19we are being very, very firm about the conduct they have to have.
29:24So, the prison is not a carnival.
29:28We are starting to achieve zero vacancy,
29:32everyone has to clean the prison,
29:35I have a lot of prisons that are being fixed,
29:38they are making uniforms for the prisoners,
29:41every prisoner is going to have a uniform,
29:43they are making uniforms for the penitentiaries,
29:45that is, we have put them to work and to produce.
29:50A couple of political questions.
29:52Are you going to be a senator?
29:54I don't think so.
29:56I don't think so.
29:57A congresswoman either?
30:00No.
30:01No.
30:02No.
30:03If I were, I would be a senator, but I'm not going to be.
30:07I think that, let's see,
30:11someone thought that with a structural change,
30:16adjustment, as the president says with all the words,
30:20we were going to have the social peace that we have?
30:23No, no, obviously.
30:25So, is it not worth it to continue trying that
30:29and not to give up?
30:31Because all the time, yesterday and today,
30:35we had two heavy demonstrations.
30:39Yes, the one of the penitentiaries the other day, right?
30:42The one of the penitentiaries, that all the leftists get involved.
30:45All the leftists, yes.
30:46And then...
30:47They want to rot it.
30:48They want to rot it.
30:49And they want to rot it.
30:50And they want to rot it.
30:51And the one of Ate.
30:52The one of Ate, of course.
30:53So, we had two heavy demonstrations.
30:55So, what do they want?
30:56To take the streets again?
30:58So, this is a topic that,
31:00even if it comes out every day in the media,
31:03we, every day, have a challenge.
31:07Every day.
31:08So, that challenge, the challenge of the border.
31:12We got into Oran with everything.
31:14Oran and Aguas Blancas were taken by the narco.
31:18Seven hitmen in the year 2023.
31:22Seven.
31:23So, we went there, we got into everything.
31:26We are controlling the border.
31:28Now we are going to Salvador Maza.
31:30The last one.
31:31Politics, right?
31:33Are you a pro of the Libertad Avanza?
31:36Well, let's see.
31:37I am affiliated with the pro,
31:39but I am in the government of the Libertad Avanza.
31:41That is clear.
31:42You are going to move to Libertad Avanza,
31:44as Valenzuela did, for example, as others are doing.
31:46No, we haven't talked about it yet.
31:49We haven't talked about it.
31:52I feel that I came in representing millions of people
31:59who voted for me,
32:01and I made a very important leap in the history of Argentina,
32:04of saying, I am going to support,
32:06without any conditioning, Javier Milei,
32:09and I think I have to keep that place.
32:13Ok, you are still in the problem.
32:15Brenda, we can go with this urgently,
32:17because Mauricio Macri spoke,
32:19and I think it was violent against Santiago Caputo.
32:25Yes, Brenda.
32:26Yes, Mauricio Macri spoke in the media,
32:30in Arrecifes, in an interview,
32:32where he questioned Santiago Caputo
32:35for the criticisms he received from the head
32:37of the General Administration of Puertos
32:39for the fall of the Hydrovía legislation.
32:42We are listening.
32:43Ok.
32:46Next week I am going to answer Mr. Santiago Caputo.
32:49Because Santiago Caputo is the one behind
32:51that Trucha Commission that was set up for the Hydrovía,
32:55which was also making a monumental cost
32:57for the producers,
32:59and he is going to answer one of the unpresentable people
33:01who is part of that commission,
33:03accusing us of something that they failed.
33:06They failed the bid,
33:08the only bid they organized in a year and a half,
33:11to try to avoid competition.
33:14What we haven't done in our government?
33:16There are hundreds, thousands of bids
33:18in which no one ever challenged a bid.
33:22Never.
33:23It was always a competition,
33:24it was judged,
33:25it was finished,
33:26and the one who didn't finish paid the fine
33:27and the company went bankrupt.
33:29So they have to explain why that failed,
33:31and I am going to answer Mr. Caputo next week
33:34all these things he is doing,
33:35telling others,
33:36because he is the only one responsible
33:38for having constituted that dark commission
33:41with a dark river that avoids competition.
33:45And?
33:46Let's see,
33:47why doesn't he answer the General Administrator of Puertos,
33:50who is the one who spoke to him?
33:52Why, let's say...
33:53Macri says the General Administrator of Puertos
33:55is Santiago Caputo.
33:57Well, that is an understatement.
33:59He is an official who is in charge of a very important area
34:03of our country,
34:05which is the administration of the Hydrovía
34:07and other navigable routes.
34:09If he doesn't answer,
34:10who is going to answer him?
34:12If he doesn't answer,
34:13what he is looking for is to make the theory
34:15that Caputo is always behind everything.
34:18I thank you very much for coming.
34:20Thank you very much.
34:22Patricia Burrich,
34:23for me,
34:24the best Minister of Security
34:26of the last 20 years.
34:28I say it clearly because that is how I feel.
34:31Thank you very much.
34:32I thank you very much.