US politicians and NATO provoked Russia by breaking their promise not to expand eastward, former member of Trump’s White House transition team Jan Halper Haye says.
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00:00Let me start with you, Jan, because according to President Trump, the Ukrainian president
00:05is a, quote, dictator. He and NATO are to blame for the invasion of Ukraine. I mean,
00:12that sounds suspiciously familiar. That's the Kremlin narrative, isn't it?
00:17Well, actually, the unprovoked was a good cover. And when you think about who poked
00:26the bear, it wasn't Russia and it wasn't the Ukraine. It actually was U.S. diplomats, politicians
00:35and NATO. Because in 1990, it was guaranteed to Gorbachev that they would not move one
00:44inch eastward, to quote former Secretary of State James Baker. And the fact that they
00:51kept entertaining bringing Ukraine into NATO was really the crux of the issue.