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Host:
- Maria Memon
Guests:
- Taimur Khan Jhagra PTI
- Tariq Fazal Chaudhary PMLN
- Ijaz-ul-Haq PMLZ
- Shahbaz Rana (Economist Analyst)
Opposition leaders' Meeting with the Chief Justice | Maria Memon's Analysis
Ijaz ul Haq Nay Dubarah Negotiations ki Baat Kiyu Ki...? Inside News
What demands did PTI present in the meeting with the Chief Justice? Taimur Jhagra Reveals
"Agar PPP,PMLN Aur PTI Kay Heads Aik Sath Baith Jayein Tou..." Tariq Fazal Chaudhry's Statement
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Maria Memon
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- Taimur Khan Jhagra PTI
- Tariq Fazal Chaudhary PMLN
- Ijaz-ul-Haq PMLZ
- Shahbaz Rana (Economist Analyst)
Opposition leaders' Meeting with the Chief Justice | Maria Memon's Analysis
Ijaz ul Haq Nay Dubarah Negotiations ki Baat Kiyu Ki...? Inside News
What demands did PTI present in the meeting with the Chief Justice? Taimur Jhagra Reveals
"Agar PPP,PMLN Aur PTI Kay Heads Aik Sath Baith Jayein Tou..." Tariq Fazal Chaudhry's Statement
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maria Meeman and today's top stories is about politics.
00:14Whether it is the opposition alliance, the case of the courts, or the movement of Tehreek-e-Insaf.
00:20All these things seem to be the same status quo till Eid.
00:26We will talk about the first part of the program and then we will talk about the negotiations.
00:30I was looking at Mr. Ijaz-ul-Haq's interesting statement that the negotiations will take place again.
00:34This is his wish, this is the news. You can ask him about this in the second part of the program.
00:38Finally, a year of the government has passed. Is the economy stable?
00:42As the government is claiming.
00:44Mr. Shabaz Rana will be with us. We will take a realistic view of this whole matter.
00:48Let's start. A little while ago, an announcement came from the Supreme Court.
00:52Opposition leaders have met today.
00:54It is a unique meeting.
00:56It is a unique meeting of its kind.
00:58In this announcement, it is being said that national consensus on judicial reforms is necessary.
01:04In addition, the PM has also been discussed on the reform agenda.
01:07So, the Chief Justice of Pakistan has met both.
01:10It is a good omen, but will it achieve anything?
01:14We will find out in the future.
01:16Anyway, what was the sentiment, what was the meeting?
01:19When the leadership of the movement has come out, he told us. Listen.
01:23Today, 7 members of the delegation, including the opposition, met with the Chief Justice of Pakistan.
01:30The Chief Justice shared an agenda with us during the meeting of the National Judicial Policy Committee.
01:36The workers supporters of the Pakistan Movement, especially Mr. Khan and his wife,
01:40are being affected by an unfair and discriminatory treatment.
01:45They have assured us that they will definitely take steps to find a solution to all this.
01:52It was a very extraordinary meeting.
01:55The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan has not met with the opposition.
02:04And the good thing, in fact, the surprising thing is that the government is also very happy with this meeting.
02:10When the government met, the opposition made it a target of criticism.
02:14But the government is happy with the meeting of the opposition.
02:16Mr. Irfan Siddiqui is calling it a joy. See.
02:20The Chief Justice has also spoken to the government. The Prime Minister has also gone.
02:24He will also meet the opposition. He is also meeting the lawyer.
02:27So, the matters of justice, the matters of justice,
02:31it is a very good exercise to improve them or to move forward with everyone in confidence.
02:38Mr. Irfan Siddiqui has a very pleasant tone.
02:40Mr. Irfan Siddiqui did not have such a tone some time ago.
02:42In fact, when he had to talk to the opposition on the basis of negotiation,
02:46after meeting Mr. Nawaz Sharif, especially Mr. Irfan Siddiqui,
02:50he came back to his hawkish tone.
02:54What did he say?
02:56This Jamaat was not made for talks.
02:58In its essence, in its substance, in its DNA,
03:02Negotiation, conversation, dialogue, understanding, giving and taking,
03:08playing a role in the negotiations, these things are not in its essence.
03:12It is its compulsion.
03:14In its DNA, it is what they say after Ramadan that we are going to do.
03:19So, there is a big flip-flop stance. Is there any clarity in politics?
03:22What does the method of justice of this meeting want to achieve?
03:26Why does the government consider this meeting a joy?
03:30We will talk about this in the first part of the program.
03:32Along with that, if there is any movement to be run after Eid,
03:34is there any scope for it or not?
03:36In the studio, we have with us Mr. Taimur Salim Jagda,
03:38and I have with me Mr. Tariq Fasal Chaudhary,
03:40who is the Chief Whip of the Muslim League Noon,
03:42in the Qaum-e-Assembly. Thank you both very much.
03:44Mr. Jagda, let us start with you.
03:46This meeting took place with the permission of Mr. Imran Khan.
03:51So, do you expect a good relief from this?
03:57Do you have cases in the courts?
03:59Overall, what are your agendas for this meeting?
04:04And what do you expect from it?
04:07I just spoke to Mr. Shibli Faraz on the phone.
04:12So, I just asked him.
04:15As far as you said, this meeting took place with the permission of Imran Khan.
04:21And the delegation told us all the issues.
04:26The 26th Ayn-e-Tarmeem, the elections, the rule of law breakdown,
04:31all these issues that are being violated with our workers.
04:37Mr. Imran Khan is not getting the facilities in the jail,
04:41he is not getting justice.
04:43Mr. Shibli has just given me a lowdown.
04:46And...
04:47When you spoke to the Chief Justice,
04:49he was probably focused on reforms.
04:52What was his position after meeting you?
04:55I didn't go into that much detail.
04:58Obviously, he said positive things in the meeting.
05:03As you said in the press conference,
05:05it was a happy atmosphere.
05:07One thing was very interesting in the meeting.
05:10And that is...
05:12Mr. Shibli was telling me that there,
05:15it was said that...
05:17Look, for judicial reforms,
05:20there must be respect for the court.
05:22And there must be a writ of the court.
05:25And what happened in the last two and a half years,
05:28the decisions of the court were not accepted.
05:30First, in the provincial elections.
05:32Then, in the matter of reserved seats.
05:35In this way, the way the 26th Ayn-e-Tarmeem took place,
05:39after that, the judicial interference
05:41has come into the hands of the executive.
05:43So, judicial reform becomes meaningless until the time
05:47the court does not show its writ and respect.
05:51And this is an actual challenge for the Chief Justice.
05:54Right.
05:55So, your point has been raised.
05:57Now, I will go to Dr. Shibli.
05:59Dr. Shibli, meeting the opposition,
06:01this has never happened in the past.
06:03This is a unique thing.
06:05When it comes to reforms,
06:07what can be the role of the Chief Justice?
06:10Because your government is accused
06:12that you are standing in the way of reforms
06:16and even if you are doing reforms,
06:18you are doing it of a political nature.
06:20So, what is the take-away of such a meeting?
06:22What do you think, can consensus building
06:24be done with a single meeting?
06:26Or can it be the beginning?
06:30See, this was a program three to four days ago.
06:34It was a talk show and there was a discussion.
06:38And I said that if three of our big political parties,
06:41Pakistan People's Party, PMLN, PTI,
06:44if they sit together,
06:46then the problems of the country
06:48can be solved in a very positive manner.
06:50So, like Mr. Jagda,
06:52our brother from PTI was with me in the program.
06:54He said that the options are elsewhere.
06:56I said that wherever you are pointing out
06:58that there are options,
07:00we will invite them too.
07:02And I said the second thing,
07:04I said that we will request the Chief Justice
07:06that you should also come and sit.
07:08This was three to four days ago.
07:10When the meeting with the Chief Justice
07:12was not on the media,
07:14this was my statement.
07:16I will tell you the program too.
07:18What I mean to say is that
07:20if there is positivity in your thinking,
07:22if you have sympathy for the country,
07:24and if you have said that it is unprecedented
07:26the meeting with the Chief Justice,
07:28the Prime Minister or the Leader of the Opposition,
07:30then the situation the country is going through
07:32is also unprecedented.
07:34So, in extraordinary circumstances,
07:36extraordinary decisions are made.
07:38There is a pillar of our state,
07:40the Head Chief Justice.
07:42If he has any concerns,
07:44and if he wants to talk,
07:46then why not?
07:48He is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
07:50He is the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
07:52He has a constitutional role
07:54as the Leader of the Opposition.
07:56I don't know why we don't like
07:58to see each other or
08:00to tolerate each other's existence.
08:02We will have to change this attitude.
08:04And it is said that
08:06in extraordinary circumstances,
08:08extraordinary decisions are made.
08:10We have to sit.
08:12We will have to sit and talk.
08:14We will have to find a way to talk.
08:16This attitude that I am not ready
08:18to sit with anyone,
08:20I am not ready to talk to anyone,
08:22we will have to come out of this attitude.
08:24But Doctor, what you are saying,
08:26can it be understood that
08:28the government still wants
08:30to negotiate?
08:32Is this an informal invitation?
08:34Look,
08:36100%,
08:38I will tell you that
08:40you should also decide to negotiate.
08:42What you should decide is that
08:44a few such domains,
08:46like our country is going through
08:48a wave of terrorism,
08:50economy is a big challenge for us,
08:52apart from that,
08:54every opposition party has a complaint
08:56that the government is
08:58doing an onslaught on me.
09:00We were in opposition,
09:02we have the same complaint.
09:04Draw a line in that.
09:06Respect for each other,
09:08whatever is said in the media,
09:10it will not happen.
09:12We have to move forward.
09:14We have to go out of this.
09:16Talk about election reforms.
09:18Mark three or four things.
09:20Everyone should come to an agreement on this.
09:22In the rest of the political arena,
09:24there is a political war going on.
09:26But Doctor, that was a chance
09:28when joke committees were formed.
09:30The political class could not agree
09:32even at the starting point.
09:34The process got trampled midway.
09:40Look, there was a commission.
09:42I think the commission,
09:44the concept I am talking about,
09:46it is not even 5%.
09:48There is a small part of it.
09:50I am talking about a very big
09:52political and national canvas.
09:54There is a small part of it,
09:56the commission.
09:58Take that into consideration.
10:00You say it is necessary to form a commission.
10:02We tell you whether it can be formed or not.
10:04Sit there and talk.
10:06Why do these things become the adornment
10:08of the media?
10:10Whether the commission is formed or not.
10:12I am telling you,
10:14I am talking about all the political
10:16leaders and heads.
10:18If there is love for the country,
10:20if there is a desire to take the country forward,
10:22what is the harm in sitting there and talking?
10:24You asked about the government.
10:26At the end,
10:28in his address,
10:30he said,
10:32you can form a house committee.
10:34He said this is a way forward.
10:36He expressed a political thought.
10:38Yes, the doors are open.
10:40We can sit and have a consensus.
10:42And this issue of protest,
10:44we have been doing it since 2004.
10:46What is new?
10:48Let me take this point to Mr. Jagda.
10:50There have been extreme protests.
10:52What is that?
10:54I have seen protests all over the world
10:56and in Pakistan.
10:58Mr. Tariq is one of the people
11:00who talk about consensus.
11:02He talks about accommodating
11:04everyone.
11:06Do you think that
11:08there is still room for negotiations
11:10in the country?
11:12I was watching Mr. Jaz-ul-Haq's statement.
11:14He said there will be negotiations.
11:16Do you think there is a sense in PTI?
11:18There is a need for negotiations.
11:20There is no doubt about it.
11:22There will be room for negotiations
11:24when the negotiations
11:26are meaningful.
11:28Until then,
11:30if you remember
11:32the 2014
11:34negotiations,
11:36it was
11:40going on a deadlock
11:42until the APS incident.
11:44It is called a black swan event
11:46in English.
11:48It was unexpected.
11:50If you look at PMLN's track record,
11:52I don't think
11:54that it was a joke.
11:58But in 2014,
12:00your protest was not going anywhere.
12:02The 126-day protest
12:04was not going anywhere.
12:06There is a difference
12:08between 2014 and today.
12:10There is a difference.
12:12There is no fun.
12:14There is no help.
12:16There is no ease.
12:18I was working in Dubai at the time.
12:20But I will say
12:22that the actual difference
12:24is that Imran Khan
12:26is in jail today.
12:28The whole world recognizes
12:30that the way he is in jail
12:32has nothing to do with law and justice.
12:36The public is angry.
12:38Yesterday or the day before yesterday,
12:40there was a statement by Maryam Nawaz Sharif
12:42which effectively,
12:44between lines,
12:46said that the popularity
12:48should increase before the vote.
12:50Not after the vote.
12:52If someone else gets the vote
12:54and then you start working
12:56in this confusion.
12:58It is a political rhetoric.
13:00They will not say that our popularity is decreasing.
13:02But subconsciously,
13:04when we say that we did not win anything
13:06and the situation is getting better,
13:08I think that is a giveaway.
13:10Secondly,
13:12the country
13:14is under martial law.
13:16An article has just come out.
13:18You are talking about the economy later.
13:20But I assume
13:22that
13:248 DFI's
13:26Development Finance
13:28Institutions
13:30have written an objection to the Prime Minister
13:32that the way
13:34the IPPs have been renegotiated
13:36is wrong
13:38and will actually reduce
13:40the confidence of investment
13:42by forcefully
13:44renegotiating the contracts.
13:46You cannot improve the environment
13:48of investment.
13:50And they have expressed
13:52deep reservations.
13:54Every event is showing us
13:56that the country is going in the wrong direction.
13:58And I think there can be negotiations.
14:00But people like Tariq Fazal Chaudhary
14:02will have to create
14:04a dominant point of view
14:06in their party.
14:08People like you will also have to
14:10create a dominant point of view
14:12which will convince Mr. Khan
14:14and will also
14:16create awareness.
14:18Your party also has hawks and doves.
14:20Some people say that
14:22negotiations should not take place now.
14:24Some say that we should create an opportunity for dialogue.
14:26Maybe no one in Pakistan's politics
14:28wants such politicians
14:30to have a dominant point of view
14:32in their party,
14:34who have a free view.
14:36So this is the advice you are giving to Mr. Doc.
14:38People are free to talk.
14:42Nowadays, PTI has more free points of view.
14:44Maybe that is why we are suffering so much.
14:48Doc, you are saying that
14:50there should be a dialogue.
14:52But the government has to have a dominant point of view.
14:54If the Chief Justice
14:56will sit with all the parties
14:58and make a consensus.
15:00I don't think it will happen.
15:02But it is a starting point.
15:04The government has to have a dominant point of view.
15:06We have to engage them.
15:08We have to ensure
15:10that the grievances of PTI
15:12such as arrests,
15:14harassment of our people
15:16should not happen.
15:20Look, I have just said
15:22that the consensus points
15:24or
15:26issues
15:28that I have mentioned,
15:30this can be discussed.
15:32It is the economy.
15:34This is the biggest issue.
15:36Ask Mr. Jagra.
15:38He will tell you the situation of KP better than me.
15:40Ask a friend from Balochistan.
15:42The responsibility of the government is big.
15:44I will take just 30 seconds on this.
15:46Because the government is in control
15:48of the affairs.
15:50But is the country only of
15:52PMLN, People's Party, MQM
15:54who are in the unity?
15:56Is the country
15:58not of PTI
16:00and other opposition parties?
16:02If the country is going through a crisis
16:04and you are threatening
16:06that we will again protest,
16:08we will again raise our voice on the capital,
16:10we will again be violent,
16:12is this sympathy for the country
16:14or is it a matter of rectifying the system?
16:16You should think about your own attitude.
16:18If we have a problem, we will accept it.
16:20I have said this many times on TV
16:22that the country is not
16:24ruled by angels. We are humans.
16:26We can make mistakes.
16:28It is the job of the opposition
16:30to rectify the mistakes
16:32they have made.
16:34It is better to
16:36rectify our shortcomings
16:38than to attack
16:40the assembly.
16:42We will accept them
16:44with open hearts and minds.
16:46This is how the country has to move forward.
16:48You have a forum,
16:50a parliament.
16:52Mr. Jagda was speaking there
16:54and he is very respectable to me.
16:56But Mr. Jagda
16:58or a sane voice
17:00in the party
17:02is in the last row
17:04in Tariq-e-Insaaf.
17:06Those who always talk about
17:08fighting, killing,
17:10they are on the front line.
17:12Imran Khan
17:14meets those people.
17:16You see the same people in the media
17:18and in the talk shows.
17:20You should rectify this attitude.
17:22I spoke to the Prime Minister
17:24and he said
17:26that those talks are
17:28a small part of the commission.
17:30It is just
17:32a very small part of
17:34the very broad perspective
17:36which we are talking.
17:38If it is closed,
17:40they should make a house committee
17:42and move forward.
17:44This is an open-minded thing.
17:46The government is ready to fulfill its responsibilities.
17:48Tell me,
17:50I will tell you two things.
17:52Which government
17:54is governing
17:56the situation
17:58that Pakistan is going through
18:00and is also
18:02killing people?
18:04No government wants this.
18:06Whether it is us or anyone else,
18:08we want the country to move forward
18:10and the opposition should play its
18:12responsible role.
18:14There are objections
18:16on the election.
18:18There were objections in 2018 and before.
18:20There is a forum for that.
18:22Let the system
18:24function.
18:26Let the system
18:28function.
18:30We are not agreeing to this.
18:32I was laughing.
18:34Let me correct
18:36Mr. Tariq's statement.
18:38The government is
18:40not like this.
18:42It is not like this.
18:44It is not like this.
18:46Mr. Tariq,
18:48we are humans.
18:50We are humans.
18:52We can make mistakes.
18:54After the 18th amendment,
18:56the agriculture department
18:58has been devolved.
19:00It should remain there.
19:02I think
19:04the people are fed up with the system.
19:06The people are fed up
19:08with the state of
19:10governance.
19:12We have seen this for a long time in KP.
19:14In KP,
19:16before the 2024
19:18election,
19:20the governance
19:22was made.
19:24They have their own
19:26statements.
19:28Most of the ministers were from
19:30JUI, PMLN, PPP,
19:32and ANP.
19:34They were given the opportunity to
19:36make their own vote bank.
19:38Despite that, PTI was not
19:40even in the picture.
19:42All the seats were won by PTI.
19:44KP's political culture
19:46is ahead of the rest.
19:48This is a tipping point
19:50for the country.
19:52It will not stop.
19:54This is a challenge for the country.
19:56We can't sweep it under the carpet.
19:58What is the way forward?
20:00There will be a debate on this too.
20:02Mr. Tariq, do you want to run
20:04a street movement after Eid?
20:06Do you have expectations from the courts?
20:08Will this be resolved in the parliament?
20:10We are not seeing this strategy
20:12being fine-tuned.
20:14We will come back after the break.
20:16Mr. Jazulak is with us.
20:18Why do you think there will be a debate?
20:20There is no chance.
20:22Stay with us after the break.
20:26Welcome back.
20:28The doors of government and justice
20:30are closed.
20:32Mr. Jazulak is a member of
20:34the government committee.
20:36I heard an interesting statement
20:38from him this week.
20:40He said that the committees
20:42can start the debate again.
20:44He will actively
20:46work on this issue.
20:48We have invited him to the program.
20:50He is with us.
20:52We will ask him if this is his wish
20:54or his news.
20:56Is there a probability
20:58that the doors of the debates will open again?
21:00Thank you very much for joining us.
21:02I was reading your statement
21:04that the debates will start again.
21:06Is this your information?
21:08Is this your wish?
21:10Or
21:12has it been mentioned
21:14that the debates are the only way
21:16to give them another chance?
21:20It is a mixed reaction.
21:22There is information
21:24and there is a wish.
21:26I think that
21:28the sooner the polarization
21:30ends in the country,
21:32the better for the country.
21:34Especially
21:36for the element
21:38that is needed
21:40to strengthen
21:42Pakistan.
21:44Law and order situation,
21:46security situation,
21:48KPK, Balochistan,
21:50economy,
21:52which has started to improve.
21:54For all these,
21:56the missing element
21:58is political stability.
22:00For that political stability,
22:02I think the debates
22:04are the solution.
22:06We have seen
22:08the ups and downs.
22:10There is no result yet.
22:12I don't see
22:14any reaction
22:16in the future
22:18that will lead to
22:20a revolution.
22:22The sooner
22:24the PTA members
22:26come to the debates,
22:28the better for them and the country.
22:30I think that
22:32as far as Pakistan is concerned,
22:34everyone has a soft corner
22:36for Pakistan.
22:38I think that
22:40debates are
22:42the solution.
22:44You said
22:46that there is information
22:48and there is a wish.
22:50I would like to probe
22:52the information.
22:54Is it the wish of the government
22:56or the justice movement?
22:58Government statements
23:00seem to be victorious.
23:02I am not saying
23:04that it is the wish of the government.
23:06The government has kept the doors open
23:08and has not yet
23:10evaluated the committee.
23:12At our request, we told the speaker
23:14not to finish the committee.
23:16There are some friends
23:18in the PTI
23:20who are well-informed.
23:22They wish that
23:24debates are the solution.
23:26I think
23:28they are facing a problem
23:30to convince the leadership.
23:32I think
23:34if they try,
23:36the matter
23:38will move forward.
23:40You said that the justice movement
23:42has expressed a wish.
23:44Is this a message
23:46from Imran Khan?
23:48Or is this the PTI's
23:50initiative?
23:52What is your assessment?
23:54Some committee members
23:56wish that
23:58the PTI
24:00discusses the issue.
24:02The problem is that
24:04the discussion
24:06is not reaching Imran Khan.
24:08His wish is not being reflected.
24:10Because
24:12in our politics,
24:14especially in
24:16political parties
24:18like the PTI,
24:20which is the biggest
24:22political party,
24:24the leadership
24:26is given
24:28such a high status
24:30that they express their
24:32wish in front of the party
24:34without their consent.
24:36This is the case
24:38in every party.
24:40In the People's Party,
24:42Noon League and PTI.
24:44They are forced to
24:46convince the leadership
24:48that this is the solution.
24:50If I make it simple,
24:52the PTI's wish is
24:54to convince Imran Khan.
24:56Is this a fair assessment?
24:58Exactly.
25:00So,
25:02has the government agreed?
25:04Because the government
25:06has said that
25:08Nawaz Sharif has his own statement.
25:10Irfan Siddiqui said
25:12that the party
25:14has not been formed yet.
25:16Do you think that the government
25:18has the same wish
25:20as it had in the past,
25:22or not?
25:24Look,
25:26when you are going to do something
25:28and there are obstacles
25:30and during that
25:32there is a debate
25:34and wrong words
25:36are used
25:38against each other,
25:40then the next heart
25:42can tolerate it.
25:44Those who were sitting there
25:46with an open heart,
25:48when they came to know
25:50that the debate was over,
25:52there was a slight change.
25:54Secondly,
25:56both sides wanted to
25:58maintain their narrative.
26:00But until there is flexibility,
26:02the debate will not go ahead.
26:04PTI also wants
26:06that our narrative should remain
26:08and the debate should continue.
26:10Similarly, the government wants
26:12that we should also keep talking
26:14and we should not be seen
26:16to be down.
26:18PTI has come down
26:20from its maximalist position.
26:22Regarding 9th May,
26:24the government softened
26:26its stance.
26:28Regarding elections,
26:30Tariq-e-Insaaf softened
26:32its stance.
26:34Tariq-e-Insaaf says that
26:36there was a lot of mischief
26:38when Hamid Reza
26:40and other personalities
26:42were raided.
26:44The government itself
26:46has said that
26:48there was a lot of mischief.
26:50I was very sad
26:52that during the discussions
26:54if this happened,
26:56then it was very wrong.
26:58And I have,
27:00you can trust me,
27:02from IG Punjab,
27:04from the Minister of Interior,
27:06and from the people
27:08of Noon League,
27:10I have obtained information.
27:12And I think
27:14that there was no attack
27:16at their house.
27:18Please show some footage.
27:20They had CCTVs everywhere.
27:22They had a press conference.
27:24IG Punjab told me
27:26when I asked them.
27:28They said that they only went there
27:30to give protection
27:32so that there is no
27:34terrorist attack.
27:36They did not break anything.
27:38They did not attack.
27:40They did not react
27:42in a way that we can say
27:44that this happened.
27:46And Hamid Reza has an open book
27:48that if you have any such footage,
27:50then bring it.
27:52We will broadcast it on TV.
27:54And if I am wrong,
27:56then I will admit it.
27:58Because according to my information,
28:00this issue was also brought up
28:02in the discussions
28:04just to add insult to injury.
28:06As you said,
28:08some people want justice.
28:10There were other members of the government committee
28:12who were also with you.
28:14Do you have any wish
28:16that these discussions should continue?
28:18Who among them told you
28:20that these discussions should continue?
28:22No.
28:24I think everyone wants
28:26that the discussion should not stop.
28:28If this had happened,
28:30then the government speaker
28:32would have asked to dismiss
28:34the committee.
28:36But they did not comment
28:38on this issue.
28:40And they also said
28:42when they were doing the press conference,
28:44that their doors are open
28:46and they should come and talk to me.
28:48And we also asked them to go to the speaker
28:50so that the discussion
28:52can start again.
28:54Do you think,
28:56because Tehreek-e-Insaf also says
28:58that there is a certain group
29:00within the PMLN,
29:02like Maryam Bibi, Nawaz Sharif,
29:04Khwaja Asif, these hawks,
29:06they do not come to the discussions.
29:08Did you get this sense sitting in the committee?
29:12No.
29:14Khwaja Asif
29:16did give statements.
29:18And other people
29:20must have also given statements.
29:22This happens in every Jamaat.
29:24The discussion was going on in the committee.
29:26If there was a voice from the committee,
29:28which was raised later,
29:30when they wrote
29:32that letter,
29:34the wording
29:36could have been much better.
29:38After that, Rana Sanaullah
29:40also said that
29:42there should be a discussion
29:44and the discussion should continue.
29:46Irfan Siddiqui
29:48also said
29:50that they are trying
29:52to have a good discussion
29:54and the next reaction should be...
29:56The last question,
29:58Tehreek-e-Insaf raises questions
30:00on the capacity of the government.
30:02Did you feel that
30:04the committee was capable of
30:06scheduling the meetings?
30:08Absolutely.
30:10And
30:12we also requested
30:14for a meeting.
30:16The speaker agreed.
30:18He wanted to have a meeting
30:20on Friday or Saturday.
30:22And on Monday,
30:24we will finalize it
30:26and on Tuesday,
30:28we will have a meeting.
30:30There was a gap
30:32in the meetings.
30:34The committee members,
30:36including Irfan Siddiqui,
30:38said that there should have been
30:40a meeting.
30:42In this context,
30:44how capable is the committee?
30:46The committee is capable.
30:48If it was incapable,
30:50the committee would have been formed.
30:52Thank you very much.
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