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00:008 Jam
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00:06Tonight's 8 Jam is...
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00:14Last year, the band had their 35th anniversary.
00:16Last year, the band had their 35th anniversary.
00:18The special episode.
00:20The special episode.
00:22This time, it's...
00:24This time, it's...
00:26This time, it's...
00:28Let's interview the five members.
00:30Let's interview the five members.
00:34Thank you for having us.
00:36What will they talk about?
00:38What will they talk about?
00:40I'm moved by the fact that
00:42I'm interviewed by five members.
00:44You're not alone.
00:46You're not alone.
00:48I don't hear much about you in person.
00:50I don't hear much about you in person.
00:52In the first place,
00:54In the first place,
00:56The band was formed in the name of LUNA SEA.
00:58The band was formed in the name of LUNA SEA.
01:00And in 1992,
01:02And in 1992,
01:04Amazing visuals.
01:06Amazing visuals.
01:08Their unique visuals and world view.
01:10Their unique visuals and world view.
01:12Their overwhelming live performance.
01:14Their overwhelming live performance.
01:16And then,
01:18And then,
01:20And then,
01:22This is a good karaoke song.
01:31In 1994, when Rojia was in the top 3,
01:48What are you doing?
01:52I'm sorry.
02:03Nostalgic.
02:05I'm sorry.
02:18This song is amazing.
02:21He knows everything.
02:35I'm sorry.
02:38I'm sorry.
02:44The single album became a big hit.
02:47Furthermore,
02:52Amazing.
02:53I can't see anything.
02:56Wow, amazing.
02:58In 1999, the 10th anniversary of his debut,
03:06He held a concert with 100,000 people.
03:11He became a representative rock band in Japan.
03:16However, the following year,
03:20Tonight, I'm going to camp.
03:29At the end of the Tokyo Dome concert on December 27, 2000,
03:34End of activity.
03:38Ryuichi is the last one.
03:41The reason I was in a band with this member
03:45I thought I could shine more than anyone else.
03:49But when I saw the same light, I couldn't get used to it.
03:52I couldn't ask for a stronger light.
03:56I love you.
04:01In 2011, he made history.
04:097 years later, 2007
04:13Tokyo Dome.
04:15It's amazing to be back at the Tokyo Dome.
04:17It's amazing.
04:21He held a one-night revival concert at the Tokyo Dome.
04:28Since then, he has been active in earnest since 2010.
04:47He has been active in various fields.
04:52He has been active in various fields.
05:00In the meantime, in 2019, Ryuichi, the vocalist,
05:05He had a surgery to remove the lung cancer found a while ago.
05:11He reported on his lung cancer surgery on his blog.
05:15In 2022, he had a vocal cord surgery.
05:20He had a surgery twice last year.
05:30Ryuichi's 35th anniversary
05:34He held the largest national tour in the history of LUNA SEA.
05:38LUNA SEA is respected by his junior band members.
05:44Recently, young people in their teens are addicted to LUNA SEA through SNS.
05:51It is called a high school slave school.
05:59I want to keep standing on the stage until I can sing like myself.
06:08What is Ryuichi's determination to overcome illness?
06:14Mr. Matsuoka, is it a direct hit?
06:18When we were active in Osaka,
06:22Osaka bands care a lot about Tokyo bands.
06:26Is it a style?
06:29What kind of band is there, what kind of popularity is there, what kind of members are there?
06:34At that time, LUNA SEA was about 1992.
06:37I think it was around that time.
06:41For example, the visual of the members.
06:45Usually, bands have a little hole or charm.
06:49I don't like it at all.
06:52The visual, the sound, the existence itself.
06:56Each of the five members is at the level of making a solo band.
07:02There are five people who are outstanding.
07:05At that time, Osaka indie bands were influenced by LUNA SEA.
07:11Everyone imitated Ryuichi's song.
07:15Everyone imitated Ryuichi's song.
07:19Everyone imitated Ryuichi's song.
07:22What about Sugoru?
07:25I heard LUNA SEA for the first time on the radio.
07:28I heard LUNA SEA for the first time on the radio.
07:32The darkness, the mysteriousness, the intensity,
07:35The darkness, the mysteriousness, the intensity,
07:38It's so different from J-pop.
07:41I was 12 and 13 years old at that time.
07:44I wondered what this was.
07:47It was a shock.
07:50I had an image of Ryuichi.
07:53It's a gathering of five amazing people.
07:57This time, we will introduce the charm of LUNA SEA with these five points.
08:01First of all,
08:09LUNA SEA has released 21 CD singles and 10 original albums so far.
08:18Almost all of the songs are called LUNA SEA.
08:26LUNA SEA has released 21 CD singles and 10 original albums so far.
08:30How do you actually make songs?
08:36How do you actually make songs?
08:41It's too scary.
08:44Each of us made a basic song.
08:48Many people made demos.
08:51We all came up with ideas and built it together.
08:58Basically, it's a live band.
09:02It's magic to make a song together.
09:09It's like the breath of the members comes in beyond my imagination.
09:16That's the best way for a band.
09:21That's how I feel.
09:23Here's a question from a professional about LUNA SEA's songs.
09:28What about Nobuya from Rotton Graffity?
09:31What about Nobuya from Rotton Graffity?
09:34When I listen to it, the B melody is high-pitched, so I think it's the chorus.
09:40After that, the chorus comes out.
09:42How was this composition born?
09:45When I listen to these two songs with B melody in mind,
09:51I feel like I'm listening to a live band.
09:55It's like a chorus.
09:58It's not a chorus.
10:00It's different.
10:01Oh, I see.
10:31I feel like I'm listening to a live band.
10:36Next, Deja Vu.
11:01Deja Vu
11:18Depending on the song, there is a discussion among the listeners about where the chorus of this song is.
11:25What is the purpose of this composition?
11:27Did you make this composition on purpose?
11:30I wanted to make a lot of chorus.
11:33I see.
11:35This song is going to be a chorus everywhere.
11:37For example, there is a chorus of A melody and B melody.
11:40There is usually a part to kill.
11:43Hold it down once and then explode it.
11:45I want to build up more and more.
11:48B is more than A, and C is more than B.
11:50This song is going to be a chorus everywhere.
11:58By the way, where is the chorus of Rosia in your mind?
12:04How about you, Jay?
12:06Where?
12:08I think it's both.
12:09I think it's both.
12:11As Sugizo said, I wanted to make a song that would catch the listeners' attention from the moment I heard it.
12:24I've never actually organized it.
12:28Where is it?
12:30But you wanted to make Rosia everywhere, didn't you?
12:34That's right.
12:35That's right.
12:37Have you ever talked about the chorus?
12:41No.
12:43We wanted to make a song that would catch the listeners' attention from the moment we heard it.
12:51We wanted to make a song that would catch the listeners' attention from the moment we heard it.
12:57I don't know if it was because we were in a different era, or if we were ahead of the times.
13:07I don't know if it was because we were in a different era, or if we were ahead of the times.
13:11But it's amazing that you made all the chorus like a chorus.
13:16You can't do that in the first place.
13:18When I heard it in real time, I thought it was a chorus because I was young.
13:24But now that I think about it, there's another chorus.
13:28How did you make this song?
13:31As I said earlier, I was surprised that you didn't talk to each other.
13:36A, B, and C are all chorus.
13:41So it's cool no matter where you cut it.
13:45The chorus is the same chord progression as the intro.
13:50After this composition, it goes back to the intro progression.
13:54I thought I'd put a melody here, so I made it more intense.
14:04There's another question from Sugawara.
14:06The bass and drums come from the previous novel.
14:10The so-called rhythm-eating syncopation arrangement is Lunacy's special move.
14:16This song is like his great masterpiece.
14:37Sugawara says this syncopation is Lunacy's special move.
14:42Here's a question about this.
14:44When the arrangement that the listeners felt was completed,
14:48How did you feel about it?
14:51Now that I think about it, I didn't think I'd use a lot of syncopation at the time.
14:58I just wanted to convey the feeling of being able to move forward.
15:04I wanted to go forward.
15:08I think I was making a song with a lot of syncopation.
15:20I don't think I've ever talked about syncopation.
15:25But there were a lot of syncopated songs when I was an amateur.
15:32We don't know the technical term for it.
15:38It's called hook.
15:42I think I wanted to leave a mark on the song.
15:48I don't want to eat it.
15:51It's quite difficult.
15:52It's hard, so it's better not to eat it.
15:55Before the syncopation, Shinya said,
16:00I'm going to fill it up.
16:03After that, the whole thing was syncopated.
16:06Ryuichi came in after a night.
16:08It's a great combination.
16:11It's amazing.
16:14Shinya is amazing.
16:16Here's the performance.
16:22I'm going to beat it.
16:25My heart was shaking and I couldn't believe it.
16:30The person who was the worst was Ryoshin.
16:34What was the performance that the professionals were shocked by?
16:38Sugawara and Nobuya were interested in J's bass.
16:43J's bass is so much that he thinks he's singing.
16:47boku.
17:03So shite Sugawara wa
17:05rōjiya no bōtō no Bēsu wa
17:07kuchizusande shimau kurai
17:08sono rizumu ga kao ni natte iru
17:11to hyōgen.
17:12Here is that part.
17:27How did you come up with this bass line?
17:32Well, I've always thought that
17:35when it comes to a band song,
17:39the drum phrases, the bass phrases, the guitar phrases,
17:44the vocals, the melody, and the lyrics,
17:47all of them are each a melody.
17:53Including the rhythm, as an interpretation.
17:58So I wanted each player to sing passionately.
18:09That's how I came up with this phrase.
18:14In that sense, I've never made a bass line
18:20with the feeling of a bassist.
18:26It's like, this is my song.
18:29It's my passion.
18:31That's how I came up with it.
18:33I'd be happy if people could relate to that.
18:40Jay-Z's style of bass is very unique.
18:44It's very unique in terms of alternate picking.
18:48There are various types of bassists.
18:51Of course, there are 6-string bassists,
18:53but there are 6-string bassists with alternate picking.
18:57And they play the melody properly.
18:59It's very cool.
19:00It's very difficult to keep the bass line stable with alternate picking.
19:04Because the bass strings are thick.
19:06It's very, very difficult.
19:08The difference between down and up picking is
19:12that it's naturally more difficult to control the power
19:16when you're doing up picking than when you're doing down picking.
19:20It's the same for down picking.
19:23It's physically difficult,
19:25but it's amazing that he's doing it with alternate picking.
19:28In terms of alternate picking, he's in the top class in Japan.
19:32Here is Jay-Z's bass performance.
19:35Jay-Z's bass performance
19:47Here is Shinya, a drummer who plays with Jay-Z.
19:51Shinya, are you conscious of being in the same rhythm band?
19:54Of course, of course.
19:57Drummers are often asked to have a singing style rather than a sense of rhythm.
20:07I think the reason why I like good drummers is
20:12that they have a better sense of rhythm than their personality.
20:18That's why I'm conscious of it.
20:20Shinya's drumming is really singing.
20:24It's a singer.
20:26Strangely, Ryuichi and Shinya's grooves always match perfectly.
20:32That's why there's a string quartet around it.
20:35In fact, the axis of the rhythm is in the drums and vocals.
20:40On the contrary, it's very strong.
20:47That's why the string quartet moves freely as music.
20:54I think that's one of Lunacy's styles.
21:01Ryuichi, do you feel like you're singing with Shinya?
21:06I have a thousand percent trust in Shinya.
21:14There are a lot of songs that are very fast, fast-talking melodies,
21:19and there are a lot of songs that are very difficult even though I made them myself.
21:23At that time, I put Shinya's bass drum, snare, and hi-hat on the monitor.
21:33I sing with the intention that I will definitely run the rhythm,
21:38but I will only listen to the drums without listening to the song.
21:45Ryuichi and Shinya's Rhythm
21:57I'm humble, but I've done a lot of vocal sorts,
22:01but I think Ryuichi's rhythm is the best in the world.
22:05In fact, we were drawn to Ryu's rhythm.
22:09That's a lot of responsibility.
22:11That's the most important thing.
22:14Ryuichi's rhythm is really good,
22:18so I feel like we're following it.
22:23I'm sweating a little.
22:26The band leader is praising everyone.
22:30It's nice to be able to see something like this.
22:33In addition, the twin guitars of Sugizou and Inoran are a big weapon of Umashii.
22:42What does Sugawara think about their play?
22:45The guitarist always looks at the bottom.
22:50There are many songs that approach the arrangement from a completely different direction to one song
22:54and organize it together.
23:04Inoran plays a phrase that sews between drums, bass, and vocals.
23:10And Sugizou is an image of painting colors on the band.
23:33On the other hand,
23:40that role changes depending on the song.
23:48In Gravity, Inoran plays the lead guitar from the intro to the arpeggio.
23:56Here's the intro.
24:03What does Sugawara think about their play?
24:06It's like you're playing at a completely different rhythm.
24:30So it's like your ears are moving like this, and your throat is moving like this.
24:37It's like a completely different experience.
24:42These five people have a strong relationship of trust.
24:45When they were active mainly in the live house in Machida in the 90s,
24:50they were born from the days they spent in a small studio.
24:55In the beginning, my family had a studio.
25:00I was reported to the police.
25:03Let's go apologize to everyone.
25:05You're right.
25:07I'm sorry.
25:08There was a soundproof room in the studio,
25:11but everyone couldn't imagine the studio from a distance.
25:14If there was a late-night drum set, my amp would be here.
25:18Ryu was really singing around here.
25:20It was a room about 12 tatami mats.
25:22At that time, the late-night drum set was huge, and two-thirds of it was drums.
25:27It was right in front of me.
25:30That's where Blue Transparency, Precious, and Moom were born.
25:38Instead, we had a time limit.
25:42We decided that we couldn't play more than 8 o'clock.
25:46We practiced for about an hour every day after work,
25:50and we played five or six times a week.
25:53We didn't decide to play until 8 o'clock on our own.
25:57That's right.
25:59And we can't miss out on talking about the history of LUNA SEA.
26:05100,000 fans gathered at the Ariake special venue.
26:10There!
26:11Wow, that's right!
26:13That's cool!
26:16Wow, that's great!
26:18You're the boss!
26:20The members boarded a helicopter to appear.
26:23It started with a flashy performance.
26:28LUNA SEA's 10th anniversary live in 1999.
26:40Actually, this live.
26:43Three days before the show, the stage set, which cost hundreds of millions of yen, collapsed due to the strong wind.
26:52The performance was canceled, but the broken set was used as a ruin.
26:57The live was canceled before the stage set, which had become a rubble.
27:02That's cool.
27:04That's cool.
27:06I like the 10th anniversary live the most in LUNA SEA's live.
27:11While the set was broken due to the strong wind, the members were casual, not flashy make-up.
27:17It was a very good live that matched that broken set and felt like the end of the century.
27:25How did you feel when the set broke and the live was canceled at that time?
27:31When I got one, I got it on the phone.
27:37He said,
27:39What?
27:41He said the stage was broken.
27:46What are you talking about?
27:48That's how much I couldn't understand.
27:56I don't know how he heard everyone.
28:00I hung up the phone once.
28:02I was drinking in Roppongi.
28:05He said,
28:07What's wrong with the stage?
28:09I was like,
28:11Is this real?
28:13It was a huge donation.
28:16In my memory, it was probably the most spectacular show in the music scene.
28:25The concept of using a lot of mapping and video at that time was supposed to be a very new live.
28:38But it all went wrong.
28:40As a result, about 100,000 people were naked in front of the stage.
28:45It was like a live house where we used to hang out.
28:52We couldn't even withdraw the set that had collapsed, so we had to put it back together.
28:58We had no choice but to put the ruins on the set naked.
29:02I was grateful that the fans rushed to us even in such a situation.
29:09Even now, it's still exciting.
29:14At that time, we appeared on a helicopter.
29:18Before the live started, about 100,000 people were waiting for us on the same helicopter.
29:26I was so moved by that scene.
29:31I was moved, too.
29:33Shinya's face was stiff.
29:35Until then, I was really worried.
29:37I didn't want to show it to the public.
29:39But I thought,
29:41Wow!
29:43I was really grateful.
29:46Now that I think about it,
29:51I think I was stopping the sound.
29:53I told them not to do it.
29:55I think I was definitely stopping the sound of the members performing in the collapsed set.
30:04I think the members did their best.
30:08It's a part that comes to mind now.
30:12There are various risks.
30:14Yes, especially.
30:16Next is the end of the live.
30:18And the truth of the revival live.
30:22Tonight, we're going to end the live.
30:28The end of the live, which was suddenly popular in 2000.
30:36The activity that lasted for about 11 years with this live is over.
30:42That's right.
30:44Each and every one of the members had the same feelings.
30:49Maybe it's different.
30:51There may have been feelings that had passed by.
30:54Anyway, I'm not taking a break.
30:58I've been running all the time.
31:01Personally, I'm doing a band.
31:06Of course, it may be a business.
31:09I'm doing a tour this year.
31:11I'm releasing an album.
31:13I'm doing a tour next year.
31:15I'm releasing an album.
31:17I had to do what I decided to do all the time.
31:22It was very painful.
31:26That's what happened.
31:28When the five of us went into the studio, did the live, and recorded.
31:33I want to make a sound now.
31:35I think a good work has been born when I push away those feelings.
31:41If we had continued as it was, there may have been a more negative way to collapse.
31:47At a good stage, stop it once.
31:49Our way of life, our music, our philosophy.
31:56I'm going to pursue everything again.
31:59The fact that we were able to make a decision in our own way at the age of 30 or so.
32:05Even now, we are still in the prime of our lives.
32:09I think it was good.
32:12And seven years from the end.
32:15December 24, 2007.
32:30I can't stop.
32:36The revival live was held at the Tokyo Dome.
32:3950,000 tickets were sold out in just five minutes.
32:42There were so many people sold out.
32:45There were so many people waiting for us.
32:48They came because they wanted to see us.
32:50There are still so many people waiting for us.
32:57I think that's what pushed us back at the end.
33:06Yes.
33:07The subtitle of this day's live is One Night Deja Vu.
33:11The revival was scheduled for just one day.
33:16However, after receiving the live of this day.
33:21Ura C will continue to act after that.
33:25It's been a long time since we've been on stage together in 2007.
33:32I was convinced that this was my roots, my hometown.
33:42After the show, I did solo activities with famous session musicians.
33:54I did it with people who were really good at technique.
34:03When I joined the studio for the first time in a long time for One Night Deja Vu.
34:08The moment these five people made a sound.
34:12This groove.
34:15It's very important that the breath doesn't match.
34:18I grew up with Shinya's drums.
34:22I've been singing while listening to Jay's bass, Inoran's guitar, and Sugizo's guitar.
34:27I realized that I was a human being.
34:30I grew up here and now I'm here.
34:34I finally realized that seven years later.
34:36It was a little late.
34:38No matter how many amazing musicians gather.
34:43The groove that is born at the moment it is collected.
34:49Before that, we wrote a lot of albums.
34:53I went to Sugizo's studio every day.
34:57The sound of the moment I made with my friends who I grew up with.
35:04I had a tingling feeling that this would work in the world.
35:13We have a support guitarist.
35:17We play with five people.
35:19Sometimes we play with four people.
35:21When we decided to do it with four people.
35:25The sound is louder with four people.
35:28One instrument is missing.
35:31That's why the breath is right.
35:34Sugizo mentioned the scene of the band.
35:38I think that's what it is.
35:42Until my heart breaks there.
35:44I want to keep standing on the stage.
35:47RYUICHI's determination to overcome the disease.
35:53How can I play like myself?
35:56I'm risking my life.
35:58It's cool.
36:04RYUICHI's determination to overcome the disease.
36:11Nobuya has respected RYUICHI's vocals for many years.
36:16I love RYUICHI's old songs.
36:21There are times when I sing with a stick.
36:26There are many times when I sing with a stick.
36:30I feel a lot of rock.
36:32After that, I changed to a sweet voice.
36:36RYUICHI now is the best.
36:39RYUICHI now is the best.
36:42RYUICHI now is the best.
36:45RYUICHI now is the best.
36:50RYUICHI is highly regarded by professionals.
36:54In fact.
36:56RYUICHI had a lung cancer surgery in 2019.
37:01In 2022.
37:03RYUICHI had an operation to remove the tumor.
37:07RYUICHI has overcome two major diseases.
37:12RYUICHI toured the country for 41 performances last year.
37:18RYUICHI and MATSUOKA have known each other for more than 30 years.
37:23RYUICHI and MATSUOKA have known each other for more than 30 years.
37:27RYUICHI was very shocked to see the video of RYUICHI's tour.
37:34RYUICHI was very shocked to see the video of RYUICHI's tour.
37:57RYUICHI was very shocked to see the video of RYUICHI's tour.
38:02RYUICHI was very shocked to see the video of RYUICHI's tour.
38:07RYUICHI was very shocked to see the video of RYUICHI's tour.
38:12RYUICHI was very shocked to see the video of RYUICHI's tour.
38:17RYUICHI was very shocked to see the video of RYUICHI's tour.
38:22RYUICHI's performance was a great success.
38:26RYUICHI's performance was a great success.
38:30RYUICHI's performance was a great success.
38:36I was so sad that I couldn't stop crying.
38:40I thought he was a super Saiyan.
38:44I thought he was a super Saiyan.
38:47RYUICHI is very proud of himself.
38:51RYUICHI is very proud of himself.
38:55I want to hear your feelings.
38:59I want to hear your feelings.
39:03I want to hear your feelings.
39:07I want to see your live performance.
39:11What do you think about that?
39:14Well, the members, the fans, and the staff really supported me.
39:23In a way, this tour was a tough battle, but I was able to get through it.
39:30I had so many things on my mind.
39:34I had thoughts like, I shouldn't be on stage.
39:40But on the other hand, I wanted to do things that I couldn't do today.
39:44I wanted to do things that I couldn't do today.
39:52I don't want to go back to the old days, but I want to be able to sing my own way.
39:59I want to keep standing on stage until my heart breaks.
40:07I had a strong desire to get my song back, even if it was just one line.
40:24I hope the Dome will be a place where Mitsuru can smile.
40:33I've been working with him for over 30 years.
40:39I respect him as a band member and vocalist.
40:42But as a human being, he's someone I admire.
40:46He told me that his number one weapon was singing.
40:52But he was sick and couldn't sing properly.
40:57Honestly, I wanted him to take a break.
41:00I wanted him to stop singing.
41:04But he kept singing.
41:08When I saw his performance, he managed to sing four bars.
41:13But he didn't sing the four bars.
41:15Then the fans would sing.
41:16Then he would sing the four bars again.
41:19When I saw that, I was so sad.
41:21He was the perfect person for me.
41:25I was so sad.
41:28But when I thought about it, he still stood on stage.
41:33There was a moment when Inoran hugged him.
41:37He showed me that he could sing because he was a member of a band.
41:42He showed me the greatness of a band.
41:44He showed me the magic that a solo artist can do.
41:50I was so happy that he talked to me on my back.
41:54I still remember that he made the four bars with the fans.
42:06This year, he will be 36 years old.
42:10What is the secret to his long career?
42:14There's something I really feel.
42:18I still remember when I first met him.
42:23There's one thing that hasn't changed since then.
42:27It's a little weird to say that all the work I've been given is my work.
42:33But it's the same for live performances.
42:37It's the same for rehearsals.
42:39I really feel that I'm putting my life on the line for how I can shine and how I can play my own way.
42:49Usually, there's a leader in the band.
42:53You might be told to do this or practice this.
42:58But I didn't have that at all when I was formed.
43:02I was just thinking about how to look cool.
43:05I think it's an extension of rock kids who say,
43:10I'm cooler, I'm cooler, I'm cooler.
43:14I think there aren't many bands like this where everyone is the leader.
43:21I think of the other four as my favorite players.
43:27I think they're the coolest in the world.
43:31It hasn't changed since I made my voice at Sekizo's house.
43:37It's been 35 years.
43:41This feeling hasn't changed for 35 years.
43:44I don't think it's going to change for the rest of my life.
43:48Am I the only one who thinks that?
43:52That's what it is.
43:55The weight of the words of those who have been doing this for 35 years is amazing.
44:02It's our 20th anniversary.
44:04We've done so much and praised each other for the members.
44:09The back of the person who seems to be having a lot of fun is cool.
44:16The AI says, how about this next?
44:19Can you show me?
44:21It's too scary.
44:22Next week
44:24The group of Ryuuichi and Shinya will have a meeting.
44:27This week, it will be broadcast on Terasa TV.
44:30I'm really nervous about the national competition.
44:33Next time, the pros want to do it on the show.
44:37It's a project to bring in.
44:39It's a project to bring in.
44:42It's a project to bring in.
44:46The AI says, how about this next?
44:49Can you show me?
44:50Let it be.
44:51Let it be.
44:53It's cute.
44:54The person has changed.
44:55It's a good present.