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00:00Joe, it's so funny because you have these two teams, right?
00:02Second time in three years they face off in a Super Bowl.
00:06We have seen Kansas City here so many times,
00:10in so many data points to use and sample size to compare.
00:15Jalen Hurts after Super Bowl 57,
00:17we thought he was going to be the top quarterback
00:19in the NFC for years to come.
00:21Still obviously has led his team to success,
00:24but maybe not quite in that distinction,
00:26at least at this moment.
00:28Isaiah Pacheco on that wonderful rookie run
00:31into the postseason left Super Bowl 57
00:34with a Lombardi trophy, 15 carries, 76 yards,
00:38and a touchdown for KC.
00:40Ah, the Chiefs have done it again.
00:42They have found their bell cow with a seventh round selection.
00:46Isaiah Pacheco injured earlier this year,
00:49a significant ankle injury.
00:51Just how healthy he is right now,
00:53despite being back there, that remains to be seen.
00:56But it led on Kansas City to call on Kareem Hunt,
00:59of course, a member of prior Super Bowl winning teams
01:02for KC as well.
01:05And it seems as though Kareem Hunt is now the lead back.
01:08So the big question for KC's backfield,
01:10as you see their numbers,
01:12in order for the Chiefs to win, Joe,
01:14do both Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco need to be good?
01:18Do they need production just out of one?
01:21Can neither be all that outstanding
01:23and get close to those props?
01:25And Patrick Mahomes still will the Chiefs
01:27to a Super Bowl championship.
01:30Yeah, listen, let's not kid ourselves here.
01:34Pacheco is not even remotely close to 100%.
01:37If he was, Ben, I think we'd have a totally different look
01:41and the number would be different in this game
01:44if Kansas City had a legit number one back.
01:48So Pacheco, not 100%,
01:51suffered that injury you mentioned early in the season.
01:54He's got just five carries in two playoff games so far.
01:58So he is clearly the second choice
02:01in just a handful of packages for Andy Reid and this offense,
02:05which means Kareem Hunt is gonna be your lead back here.
02:09So a lot of different ways I think we can fade Pacheco.
02:13There's a couple of different ways
02:14I think we can fade Kareem Hunt,
02:17but this all goes back to my point
02:19with unlike last year or years prior,
02:22there is absolutely no consistent running game
02:26for Kansas City,
02:27not to mention you've got a Philadelphia defense
02:30that plays two high safeties all the time in Vic Fangio.
02:33Why?
02:33Because they're not letting you beat them deep.
02:36Worthy's not flying down there uncovered.
02:39They're not going to allow you to do that.
02:41They're gonna make you dink and dunk it.
02:44I don't know that Kareem Hunt is a guy
02:46as a number one back then that I wanna say,
02:48uh-oh, he can take over this game.
02:51He can't.
02:52But they have to maintain a running game, Ben.
02:56Otherwise they become very one-dimensional
02:58and that's not a good thing either.