There's the 'GOAT' debate between Brady/Mahomes, but when should we have the discussion of Reid v Belichick? Is it close? #NFL
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00:00Andy Reid is not getting enough credit for what just happened last night like
00:04Those quarterbacks were dead even and actually the slight edge goes to Josh Allen because he technically didn't turn the football over like Patrick
00:11Malone's did and yet somehow some way the Chiefs won and the reason for that is
00:17To coach. Nope. It's not it has nothing to do with the officials
00:20The officials were actually very good in that game. Good job by the officials
00:24Nope, it was the coaching because Sean McDermott is a boob
00:28This guy
00:29Stinks the amount of times you run the same quarterback sneak over the same left guard that Jim Nance
00:35Knew was coming the first time you lined up to do it was a mistake
00:39Like you need to run better plays third and ten
00:42Yeah
00:42Let's run a screen pass a quick screen or a tunnel screen to Amari Cooper who can't run like water
00:49The play calling that was so stupid was so dumb on third and goal
00:54Let's throw a fade pass to their best cornerback to our rookie wide receiver. Who's been like, okay
01:00It was the the play calling from Joe Brady was insane
01:03And every time Steve Spagnuolo needed to heat up Josh Allen
01:08He did and on offense every time the Chiefs needed just a couple yards
01:12They ran that stupid play-action boot with Patrick Malone's and they either had a wide open receiver or he ran for 10 yards
01:20Every single time and the Bills were never prepared for it
01:22They were in it four times and the Bills weren't ready for it once that all
01:28boils down to coaching Andy Reid and Steve Spagnuolo do not get talked about enough and Sean McDermott will
01:36Always hold this Bills team back. All right
01:39Chime great lead. Thank you very much Curtis. Good morning. Good morning, Greg
01:43so Ken and I touched on this briefly on Saturday and I
01:49Understand it Brady Mahomes is far sexier than Andy Reid and Bill Belichick
01:55but Andy Reid if
01:57They win. We're all all this conversation is if the the Chiefs win
02:02If the Chiefs win Andy Reid will be four and two in the Super Bowl
02:07He will have 29 playoff wins Bill Belichick has 31
02:11He will have 302 or 303 total wins about 30 behind Bill
02:18He'll get there in the next three seasons
02:20The odds are as long as Andy Reid is up for you know alive that he will get the stats to pass Bill Belichick
02:28But what separates the two is that Andy Reid's lost two Super Bowls to the greatest quarterback of all time
02:36Bill Belichick lost two Super Bowls to Nick Foles and
02:42to
02:43Eli Manning
02:44Yeah, so I guess technically twice right right? Well, he's lost Super Bowls to those two quarterbacks
02:51So I I I don't think that this is going to be preordained
02:56But you are far closer to Reid and Belichick being side-by-side
03:02Than you are of Mahomes. I'm not saying Mahomes his talent is better. Like he's the best player I've ever seen like he is unbelievable
03:09He's a rightful heir to the throne is the greatest quarterback of all time
03:12If he gets there, like I have nothing personal against Patrick Mahomes at all
03:16It's just Andy Reid getting to a Super Bowl with Donovan McNabb. He's 40 50 games over 500 with the Eagles
03:23He has the he's still the winningest coach in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles franchise
03:27Bill Belichick was sub 500. So it is a better comparison to have those two
03:33It won't be talked about as much and Scheim touched on it briefly
03:38Spagnuolo may be like
03:40The greatest assistant of the modern era what he did with that Giants team in 07
03:45To stifle the Patriots and what he's done with the Chiefs since that is pretty damn impressive
03:49It'll be talked about if Reid gets the five and Bill's got six the same way
03:54We kind of will talk about Brady Mahomes if Mahomes can get to
03:58Five what did we say five or six, right?
04:01Yeah
04:01We'll talk about Reid if he can pass Belichick as when it comes to wins
04:06But I think he will like I don't think why would you go anywhere
04:10and
04:11Bill's not coming back. I don't he's not gonna have I don't think he's gonna have the opportunity and I don't think I
04:19So it's right there for Andy Reid like he's gonna get he has to get the record. Yeah
04:26Yeah, it's possible for both. I think Andy Reid could finish off his career winning this Super Bowl
04:33plus another
04:35One or two and and end up with you know, six
04:39Where where if you have Mahomes can't you see Mahomes end up with six? Well, I mean he would end up with six
04:44Oh, yeah. I mean so Curtis when it comes to Tom Brady
04:49the love of your life
04:51What does Mahomes have to do to surpass Tom Brady?
04:55Does he you don't you don't feel like he gets it with the three Pete like if they win this one
05:00He's still behind Tom Brady, right?
05:02I mean from where I sit in order to surpass Brady
05:05He's got to get to seven because Brady's two and oh against him in the playoffs
05:09Yeah, and I mean that just I mean if we're gonna look at resume versus resume, then that's where I would put it
05:16Yeah, you can't see I don't think you need like I don't think that
05:20conversation because if he has the three Pete and let's say he gets the five and
05:24Brady does you know has seven there will be people because here's how many went in a row
05:30It's about how many you win total right? Well, then you could probably make the same argument for Bill, right?
05:34If Andy Reid doesn't get to six
05:36How do you like because Andy Reid has done things with another team at a mix?
05:41He went to four straight NFC title games with Donovan McNabb Bills won one playoff game in his career without no
05:46I I get that's why
05:49Good question in the twitch chat
05:52From
05:53Shea one, two, three, four five. What is their record head-to-head Reed and Belichick without Tom Brady? I don't know
06:02When it comes to Shula record because everybody wanted to say Bill wasn't going to retire before trying to surpass him
06:08I believe reads like a little over 551. I think wins away. So would that would be five more seasons?
06:14Is that attainable for him? Or do you think that that's anywhere in his mind?
06:18Yeah, I mean that that's he'll easily get that if he decides
06:21I mean if they went on two weeks from Sunday, then he'll have 18 wins this season alone
06:26I don't think it'll be five years
06:27Yeah, he could probably do that in three years based on the way, Kansas City racks up wins during the regular season
06:33How about that D?
06:36I mean, there's gonna be a
06:38Legitimate conversation. I think Curtis is probably right if Reed gets one behind
06:45Belichick, you know and then does surpass him with wins. I could easily see him people go
06:51He's the greatest coach of all there's a lot of confusion of the twitch chat legacy says what do you mean without Brady?
06:56You can't say the same about Reed without Mahomes. That's exactly the point
07:01Without Mahomes Andy Reed won a playoff game the year before Mahomes even got on the roster
07:06Andy Reed has ten playoff wins. Yeah, but nobody looks at that though. We only look at
07:11Superbowls, but we don't look at playoff wins
07:13That's like if we're comparing apples to apples
07:16You have to look at what the coaches were without the two greatest players at the most important position when comparing their resume
07:22It was also the story the last time these two teams played because Andy Reed has the most wins as a coach in Philadelphia
07:29Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I mean you can't deny but no
07:32No
07:32I think the difference is is that Reed early on in his career when he was at Philly he had Donovan McNabb
07:39And he was able to really take that team and have a lot of success with them where I think bill when Donovan McNabb
07:45Wasn't throwing up on himself. Yeah when he wasn't thrown, but he was still a top top five quarterback in the NFL, right?
07:51Well, I got a top five quarterback in blood so well
07:54No, no where bill his first goal round
07:56I don't think you could say the same thing for Cleveland because that's what it and then once bill became head coach of New England
08:03look what he did with New England, and that's where his
08:06Ultimately his career went and he never had the opportunity obviously
08:10Because he didn't get another chance to coach at least this year when bill was hired
08:13He had the highest when bill was hired. He had the highest paid player at quarterback in the NFL and drew blood
08:18So and went five and eleven. Yeah
08:20That he did
08:21That like Tom Brady was not at least on the field a douche
08:26douche chills when they get the first down and his hands go up like he's like he's in the
08:32WWE or
08:33He's the Pope
08:36And the way he walks
08:40He named his children gold silver and bronze like that's all you need to know about him
08:49Is Patrick Mahomes the third so they call him bronze
08:55That is disgusting yes
08:58All right every place doing this yet, yeah, oh his hands go up like they got that first down game secured hands go
09:05It's like cheer for me
09:07Yeah, I demand it
09:09Applaud for me, and it's just like the one finger. That's like constantly tapping his palm. It's so annoying it really is all right