Ariel Sujarchuk explica como funciona la policía local que trabaja con armas no locales.
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00:00How are you, good evening.
00:03The same questions we asked Valenzuela just now.
00:06The importance of the lieutenant as a close-knit official in the face of insecurity.
00:12And what capacity does a lieutenant have to collaborate with the province?
00:17Collaborate a lot. In fact, we collaborate with all the lieutenants of all the parties.
00:22Valenzuela that left, Quienes Habla and others.
00:25We invest a lot of money.
00:27The Escobar party invests around 16 billion pesos.
00:31It was what it invested in 2024.
00:33While I speak to you, I have a 3.5 billion pesos in technology.
00:39Artificial intelligence cameras and everything that makes prevention tools.
00:44However, the legal vacuum is large.
00:47As you just said at the table, the lieutenants assume responsibilities that are not in the municipal organic law.
00:54When the neighbor pays his fees, he expects what a lieutenant has to do,
00:59which is sweeping, cleaning the streets, lighting, etc.
01:03But we begin to assume other responsibilities out of necessity.
01:08Security, replacement in the health system, replacement in the education system.
01:13Therefore, it becomes difficult for us sometimes when the neighbor pays his contributions,
01:18to understand that this is covering many other issues that were not before.
01:22A modern lieutenant takes care of all the issues in the city,
01:28but it takes a complete reversal of the labor system,
01:33of the prevention system in the cities and a better articulation of what is happening.
01:38And what are you doing with the local police?
01:41We created a local police by order.
01:44In fact, it is done in many places.
01:46I want to talk about different political figures.
01:51Jaime Méndez in San Miguel, a great model.
01:54Tigre, another great model.
01:57We are another.
01:59Ezeiza, on the other side of the province of Buenos Aires.
02:02What is being done, in fact, we want to do it right.
02:05Therefore, we buy non-lethal weapons.
02:09The Birna, which is manufactured by Bersa.
02:12The chemical weapons that have a chemical process.
02:13In fact, there are different types of bullets.
02:15The bullet that I give you when it hits you.
02:18The rubber bullet.
02:20Sorry, polymer.
02:22Yes, polymer.
02:24You can use those that break and have a gas-pepper,
02:30but the security forces have those that are made of a polymer,
02:34that the second it hits you, you stay still on the floor.
02:37Look, I'm going to give a very simple example for the viewer.
02:39Now, while we speak, in any square in Argentina,
02:43there may be a person with excess alcohol.
02:46Well, and that is not in use because of his rationality or his strength.
02:50And that he attacks an old couple or young people who are there.
02:54It is not partisan, it is not consensual, it can happen at any time.
02:58If a Buenos Aires police officer shoots him,
03:01the truth is that no one deserves to lose a life for such a matter.
03:04If they give him a loud voice, that person does not react.
03:09If they grab each other, only God knows how it ends.
03:12Because the drunk does not use his strength with rationality,
03:16the police officer has to defend himself.
03:18With these weapons, he gives him a loud voice, he does not comply.
03:21He shows him the gun, he does not stop.
03:24As the colleague just explained, he shoots him in the leg,
03:27it's going to hurt a lot, he's going to fall to the floor,
03:30he puts his wife at the police station, at the disposal of justice, and it's over.
03:35Clear, complete solutions.
03:36The club of the normals has to be put together.
03:39Simple and effective solutions.
03:42And also decentralize.
03:44It cannot be that from Puente 12 in La Plata,
03:47they solve issues that happen every day.
03:50And that La Bonaerense dedicates itself to complex issues.
03:53Drug, robbery, automotive, homicides, etc.
03:57I return to the same question that I asked his couple on February 3rd.
04:01Why then Kicillof does not decide to have a clearer agenda on issues of insecurity?
04:07Well, I am not the exegete of the governor.
04:10On this issue, I raised differences.
04:13In fact, through a provincial deputy who responds to our municipality,
04:17we present by law.
04:19We want to be consistent with what we think.
04:22We present a bill to create local police.
04:25And there is another project of other deputies of different ages.
04:28In other words, it could give an important consensus.
04:31In addition, we collaborate.
04:34We provide funds.
04:36These police officers are paid by the municipality.
04:39I have to explain to my neighbors that part of their fees
04:42will not go to a square meter of asphalt or one more light,
04:45but will go to this service.
04:47I consider it as essential as health.
04:49We are defining life first and from there any other benefit.
04:52What is the club of the normals?
04:54The club of the normals has to be put together.
04:56Because in the midst of so much madness, so much aggressiveness,
04:58let's understand that one of the crimes that grew the most this year
05:01was violence.
05:03Violence between neighbors who know each other.
05:05Violence in football games, not from professionals,
05:08but from friends.
05:10Gender violence.
05:12Intrafamilial violence.
05:14When politics becomes violent and deeply aggressive,
05:17this also generates.
05:19I think we have to bring down a change,
05:21order and establish.
05:23I assure you at this table,
05:25I know them from seeing them and some from having a dialogue.
05:26We do 20 topics,
05:28in 16 we agree.
05:30In some we can negotiate.
05:32And in 3 we can be democratic and support our differences.
05:36In this way I think there is a lot to build.
05:39I talked with the Minister of Security of the City of Buenos Aires,
05:42Waldo Wolf, we talked a lot.
05:44Because another thing that has to be done
05:46is an inter-judicial division
05:48between the police of the City of Buenos Aires
05:50and the police of Buenos Aires.
05:52Do you remember when I was younger those American movies
05:54that crossed from the county and went to the tunnel of impunity?
05:57That can not happen in today's Argentina.
06:00And with today's technology.
06:02This has to be with the cameras,
06:04with the artificial intelligence,
06:06with the prevention tools.
06:08Make a fact,
06:10in the limit between one city and another,
06:12you have to work together.
06:14And you want, Ariel,
06:16to sit at the three legs or four of this table,
06:20at least in these districts that are the most populous,
06:22I always propose dialogue as the main meeting tool.
06:27What I was saying,
06:29if you put common sense,
06:31normality and a superior intention,
06:34even the sum of intelligence,
06:36you will find very easy answers.
06:38Very, very easy and simple.
06:40Look, you have to cover several topics.
06:42There are a lot of folds
06:44in the legislature of the Province of Buenos Aires
06:47to approve judges and prosecutors.
06:49A lot is missing.
06:50Because then you have another side.
06:52Once they stop,
06:54they do not free themselves quickly.
06:56But it is also true
06:58that if there are not enough judges and prosecutors,
07:00the absence of justice
07:02ends up being a great injustice.
07:04And a law of reiteration is needed.
07:06Obviously.
07:08But let's hear one thing.
07:10Look, today,
07:12in the world of artificial intelligence,
07:14it is not necessary to go to a police station
07:16to make a complaint.
07:17It does not make any sense
07:19that a trained policeman
07:21to prevent or act
07:23if there are crimes,
07:25is making a complaint
07:27to a young man from a faculty
07:29and to assist,
07:31to do it with the guide.
07:33Really, at this point,
07:35we cannot fight organized crime
07:37with technology,
07:39with tools of the last century.
07:41Totally.
07:43Ariel, what is the main claim
07:45that you have within the municipality?
07:47The main claim is that
07:49if we do not have the money,
07:51today the money is not enough.
07:53All the adjustment measures
07:55have their consequences
07:57obviously in the salaried sectors.
07:59You are one of the few
08:01in your party
08:03who has adjusted within the municipality.
08:05But I have been doing it for nine years.
08:07Yes, okay, but I mean ...
08:09But you ask me concerns.
08:11And how do you give a hand to that person who is ...
08:13Well, what are the contemporary dilemmas?
08:15Define it in an indicator.
08:17You have a salesman
08:19who does not go to social development
08:21to ask for morphing
08:23and who wants to work.
08:25On the other hand, you have the merchant
08:27who tells you,
08:29hey, I also married the sale,
08:31I pay my national taxes,
08:33provincial, municipal.
08:35This fucks me up.
08:37Managing this situation
08:39is part of today's challenges.
08:41Security is another.
08:43Robberies grew in general
08:45throughout the province of Buenos Aires.
08:47The other issue has to do with works.
08:49And there is a great definition
08:51that I think Argentina deserves to discuss.
08:53As Valenzuela said,
08:55I do not believe in the absence of the state,
08:57I believe in the rationality of the use of resources.
08:59But there are works that correspond to the national state.
09:01Without a doubt.
09:03Because they are national resources.
09:05What is missing?
09:07Well, everything, everything,
09:09because we are a municipality that grows a lot,
09:11we have very good indicators,
09:13but we are on that path.
09:14There is a neighborhood
09:16that has 98% of the finished work.
09:18Now, a work of 98%
09:20is the same as 0% for the neighbor.
09:22If you don't have a work, nothing happens.
09:24We have been talking to the national government
09:26with a lot of respect
09:28to finish it,
09:30because it is anti-economic not to finish it.
09:32So, when it comes to discussing
09:34whether we should or should not,
09:36this little one,
09:38one more effort,
09:40there is a work of a funnel.
09:42That funnel reasonably responds
09:44to the needs of the community.
09:46And we are willing to collaborate
09:48and finish putting the guide that is needed.
09:50That is, a little bit for each one.
09:52But let's finish it,
09:54because the unfinished work
09:56then depredates,
09:58and more a funnel,
10:00which is a hydraulic work that has its complexities.
10:02Hospital del Bicentenario,
10:04a thousand million pesos more.
10:06To the pockets of the Argentines it is a lot,
10:08to the arches of the state it is not so much.
10:10A little bit more,
10:12and we put it into practice,
10:14but it is a funnel of democracy
10:16of those who choose the nation,
10:18the province and the municipalities.
10:20And among all, it builds a national agenda.
10:22What is your discussion
10:24with the issue of municipal rates?
10:26Well, there too.
10:28What caught my attention
10:30of the expressions of Minister Caputo,
10:32which in general one does not see
10:34as a man of politics,
10:36but as an economist technician
10:38who has to be.
10:40And he has an excessively virulent speech
10:42against the municipalities.
10:44Independently, the one that went up more or less,
10:46but which is also democracy.
10:48Because that mayor also had a leadership council
10:50that approved the rates.
10:52But taking this issue out,
10:54he talks about the rates of the road tax.
10:58It represents 1%.
11:00But this year, in 2024,
11:02the national government
11:04increased the tax on taxes
11:06by 722%.
11:08This number, you can check it.
11:10722% of the national government increased.
11:12So, it's kind of weird, isn't it?
11:14You criticized me for 1%
11:16and you went up to 722%.
11:18Escobar has the road tax.
11:20Escobar has it,
11:22before I became a mayor.
11:24Let's tell people
11:26that it is that percentage
11:28that increases the taxpayer's taxes.
11:30Look, I have it here on my cell phone
11:32and then I'll send it back to you.
11:34Of what you pay for fuel,
11:3640% are taxes.
11:38Of that 40%,
11:4090% are national tributes.
11:4290% are provincial tributes
11:44and 3% and 4% are municipal tributes.
11:46But I want to give you solutions
11:48because I'm not one of those
11:50who stops in criticism
11:52just because it's sterile
11:54or because I'm responsible for the government.
11:56Now, listen to me.
11:58Caputo, do you want to help?
12:00Give us a soft loan
12:02from the National Bank
12:04to finance LED lights.
12:06That will make the cost
12:08of the public lighting
12:10decrease by 50%.
12:12That will automatically
12:14decrease people's pockets.
12:16That will decrease inflation.
12:18One more thing.
12:20Municipalities pay 10.5 IVA
12:22more than the private sector.
12:24The private sector pays 10.5
12:26and the municipalities pay 21.
12:28Equalize that
12:30and the cost of public lighting
12:32will decrease rapidly.
12:34Thirdly,
12:36the IVA for waste collection.
12:38Take it away
12:40so that you don't have to change your accounts
12:42every day.
12:44I'm telling you,
12:46we decrease taxes,
12:48but the IVA increased
12:50the light by 400%,
12:52the gas by 200%,
12:54the police cars we talk about,
12:56the ambulances we talk about,
12:58the mobiles that have to go
13:00around the municipality
13:02to fix the streets,
13:04they don't work as they should.
13:06But there is an ideological issue
13:08of the government
13:10because that would imply
13:12that there is a government policy.
13:14But the question is,
13:16when you fall on the street,
13:18God doesn't allow it,
13:20but one day
13:22someone you know can happen to you,
13:24who gets you up?
13:26The ambulance.
13:28Who is the ambulance for?
13:30The state.
13:32When you cover a fire,
13:34who goes?
13:36The firefighters.
13:38How are firefighters financed?
13:40With provincial and municipal rates.
13:42How are they financed?
13:44With a triangle.
13:46A big building behind
13:48and you say,
13:50that's a national bank.
13:52When we were younger,
13:54the national bank
13:56had to be in every town
13:58because there was no banking activity.
14:00Today it's here.
14:02It's more or less present.
14:04My political party
14:06also has to modernize.
14:08I believe in the present state,
14:10but modern.
14:12We are going to give bilingual education
14:14to 100% of the kids in Escobar.
14:16Both public and private schools.
14:18And those who are bilingual
14:20can choose a third language.
14:22And to all young people.
14:24That's interesting.
14:26That is, everyone will be bilingual in Escobar.
14:28Very good.
14:30Like here in Cava.
14:32People don't see it,
14:34but here we are being focused
14:36by robotic cameras.
14:38But if you watch TV
14:40like the old Channel 7,
14:42you know it very well
14:44because of the family.
14:46So that changed.
14:48Now, is it good or bad?
14:50It is.
14:52It's like the globalization of penicillin.
14:54So, in addition to building smart cities,
14:56we have to build smart citizens
14:58prepared for the era
15:00of artificial intelligence.
15:02Today there is a chatbot
15:04that answers more than 6,000 questions.
15:06Obviously this generates
15:08the same situation
15:10as the industrial revolution
15:12and now the digital revolution.
15:14A change of production habits,
15:16a change of consumption habits,
15:18a change of cultural habits,
15:20a change of labor habits.
15:22What do we have to do as leaders?
15:24Prepare citizens for the future.
15:26In addition to languages,
15:28we are going to give all young people
15:30from public and private schools
15:32digital skills.
15:34Nine different courses.
15:36Data science, programming.
15:38And we divide programming.
15:40COBOL for banks,
15:42community manager,
15:44digital programming.
15:46Different skills that have to do
15:48with artificial intelligence.
15:50Generate the tools of new jobs.
15:52If Peronism grew
15:54by representing workers,
15:56we have to think of new jobs
15:58and train all social classes
16:00so that they can enter
16:02the world that is coming.
16:04Thank you, Ariel, for your presence.