Fawad Chaudhry's sarcastic comments on Miftah Ismail
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00:00Okay, so you are saying, Mr. Durrani, the negotiations are going on in 2025.
00:06I have been talking to Mr. Durrani for a long time.
00:08So, I am having a little problem in contact with you, so it's okay.
00:12Yes, please go ahead.
00:13I said, Mr. Durrani, these negotiations, do you see any solution to these negotiations?
00:19Can the issues be solved? This negotiation phase has started.
00:25Look, now we are going to 2025.
00:28Is this the last segment or should I talk about myself for two minutes?
00:32Yes, yes.
00:34Sir, I think that the negotiations that have started now,
00:39these negotiations, definitely, these negotiations have started out of helplessness.
00:46And whose helplessness is this, sir?
00:48Yes, out of fear, out of fear, these negotiations have started out of Trump fear.
00:54And the government has done it for this reason.
00:56But, about 2025, let me tell you that this is also the year of independence of the democracy.
01:03This is also the year of the release of political prisoners.
01:06This is also the year of the release of Imran Khan.
01:09This is also the year of the new election.
01:11And this is also the year of participation in the rule of the people.
01:16And this is also the year of the strength of democracy in Pakistan.
01:20And, listen to one more thing, some of our friends will also feel bad.
01:24Sir, are you talking about fiction or reality?
01:26It will be the same in reality.
01:28We are not writing this story that next year there will be floods of milk and honey everywhere,
01:32Pakistan will be good, there will be democracy.
01:36Listen to the request.
01:37I am sitting a little far, so I have a problem to talk.
01:40We are talking about Pakistan.
01:42Sir, Mr. Mishra is asking, you are talking about Pakistan, right?
01:46I am talking about Pakistan.
01:48The pulse of the people is telling that if you do not accept all these things,
01:54and if you do not do all these things, then for Pakistan, for the peace of Pakistan.
02:01God forbid, sir.
02:02I understand what you are saying.
02:04This was a popular opinion for the past 3-4 years.
02:06Mr. Faiz, what is there to give?
02:08What can either side give you?
02:11I can't see anything from this conversation.
02:13Because exactly, there is nothing that can be given to anyone.
02:16Yes, the maximum can be that they say that we will release some people, minus Imran Khan.
02:22And what is the answer to that?
02:24And the answer to that will be that you do not do a little system.
02:28It can be on a tactical level.
02:30But is there going to be a major shift from these negotiations?
02:33I can't see it at all.
02:35Mr. Fawad Chaudhary, he says that there is no shift at all,
02:39there is no space in the system for Mr. Tariq-e-Insan.
02:43Look, there are two things.
02:46You are negotiating and there should be pressure behind it.
02:49This is also a problem in PTI.
02:51And I just said this to Mr. Khan.
02:53When there is pressure, we are not talking.
02:57When we are talking, there is no pressure.
02:59So right now, the American side and the Western pressure is increasing.
03:06I don't know where this situation will stop from 20th January to 20th March.
03:14But it is obvious that if there is no pressure, then why will the government give anything?
03:19Mr. Fawad, let me ask you a question that I have been discussing with you.
03:23This window is very small for both parties to do something.
03:27One party is afraid that the government might do something.
03:31That's why they are negotiating.
03:33The other party is afraid that they might get late.
03:37And if there is no call, then what will happen?
03:39Then we will run out of leverage.
03:41Is that fair?
03:43Both parties feel that they will have to find a way in this.
03:49No, your analysis is absolutely correct.
03:51Because I think that the problem is that either it is going on.
03:55There are situations where we have faced pressure in the past.
03:58But right now, it is a simple problem.
04:00I don't know if the US or the West has stopped our IMF for four months.
04:05They can tell you better.
04:08But apparently, the situation will get worse here.
04:12So you see, there is no need to take so much pressure that you can take a position.
04:17And on the other hand, it is also right that if you don't come and it gets long,
04:21then another defeat will be added from here.
04:24So that's why both parties are negotiating in a very squeezed environment.
04:28So yes, let's see now.
04:30It's the first of February.
04:32I don't think anything will happen on the 2nd.
04:34But by the 20th of January, we will start to see how it will go ahead.
04:39Mr. Mifta, there is a way.
04:41We are repeatedly saying that this American pressure may not be there.
04:46But because of Richard Grenell's tweets,
04:49there is an atmosphere that America may do something.
04:53Do you think that's pivotal, that's important in the next 10-20 days?
04:57Look, Mr. Kashif, it's not that one phone call will come.
05:01There is no such thing.
05:03But it has now been decided that the Trump administration wants
05:06that it is better if Imran is released than not to be released.
05:09But the interests of America in Pakistan, the relations in Pakistan,
05:13are due to the death of Pakistan.
05:15If there is a problem in Afghanistan, other problems, or a problem in the Middle East,
05:18then it will not fight even with the death of Pakistan.
05:21And we will not take Pakistan to the default.
05:24Even at that time, we did not take it to the default,
05:26when Mr. Khan was coming out and abusing America.
05:28And America must still know that
05:30no matter how much Mr. Khan will come out with the help of America,
05:33when he comes out, his reputation will be a little ruined,
05:35that you were going towards real freedom,
05:37now you are going towards slavery.
05:39So he will come out and abuse America again.
05:41So this is also a record of Mr. Khan.
05:43So, I mean, other things being equal,
05:45they would want that Imran Khan is released,
05:47but they will not do much disruption in Pakistan.
05:50But they would want that someone should clean up,
05:52someone should be released,
05:54someone should sit together and make an understanding.
05:56So there will definitely be that pressure of America,
05:58that someone should make an understanding,
06:00so that the country can move forward.
06:02But this is also your misunderstanding,
06:04that Imran Khan will not become a villain,
06:06on the contrary, Trump will become a hero of the Islamic world and Pakistan.
06:08This is also your misunderstanding,
06:10that if Imran Khan comes out, then what will happen.
06:12No, no, listen to me, listen to me.
06:14I want to say one more thing, I want to say one more thing.
06:16If you are more intelligent, smarter than Fawad,
06:18a politician, then Richard Grenell,
06:20will get you arrested in the Islamic world.
06:24That is true, but I want to say one thing to you,
06:26that Imran Khan cannot get a better,
06:28intelligent politician than Fawad,
06:30and all these small leaders,
06:32Fawad will take you.
06:34So don't praise Imran Khan so much,
06:36that we feel that what has happened.
06:38Keep your hand a little light,
06:40don't praise Imran Khan,
06:42but keep your hand a little light.
06:44I praise you too.
06:46No, praise me too, but keep your hand light.
06:48I want to say one more thing,
06:50that if Fawad wanted a PTI ticket,
06:52he would have got it from Jhelum,
06:54he wouldn't have been in this condition in the first 16 months.
06:58They are praising each other.
07:00But I want to say one more thing to you,
07:02I want to say one more thing to you,
07:04that not only Jhelum,
07:06but in the entire Rawalpindi division,
07:08a candidate better than Fawad cannot get a PTI.
07:10And if Fawad was a little intelligent,
07:12then he would not be in such a bad condition today.
07:14He has left Jhelum.