Claudia Jordan and Luenell, two dynamic personalities, delve into their perspectives on the decline of talk shows.
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00:00All right, so look, real quick, there was a story that came out in Time Magazine called
00:03the Talk Shows Are Endangered Species, To Survive They Must Evolve.
00:07When you look at the talk shows that are on TV right now, do you think they reflect what
00:11people want to see, or just what they're trying to fill for advertisers and white people?
00:15I feel like a lot of them are too safe.
00:19I want to say that I feel like Cocktails of Queens, we're not safe, and we're a little
00:22edgy.
00:23A little edgy?
00:25A lot edgy, but I think we're the real.
00:29We're very real.
00:30Not to take away from the real, because that was a great show, Emmy nominated show, Emmy
00:33award winning show, but I feel like our show is very ... We don't bite our tongue on anything,
00:39and sometimes we got to talk about celebrities that are our friends, and we have to give
00:42a real opinion on things.
00:44I think we need to stop being so scary, advertisers stop being so scary, and go with the real
00:49shit.
00:50All this perfectly curated and safe shit is boring.
00:53We don't need that.
00:54We need to be ... I want to hear the same kind of conversation I would hear in the barbershop
00:58or the beauty salons.
00:59Where you just go in.
01:00You're not worried about who I'm going to offend.
01:03Yeah.
01:04Well, I'm trying to be the next black woman at Late Night.
01:08Late Night has a certain vibe.
01:11I don't feel like Contents with Queens attracts men.
01:17I think it attracts women and supports what we feel with each other, but I want to have
01:23a show that ... It's just like in comedy.
01:27There's female comics who are funny, but there's female comics who are what they call
01:32guy funny, where a guy would want to come see you even without his chick, or three or
01:38four guys want to come and see you.
01:40That's very different.
01:41You have to be a different type of person.
01:44I want to be the type of person who has a show that embraces the men as well.
01:49Nobody except for gay men and women want to hear women ... They don't want to hear our
01:55opinion.
01:57I want to do things that attract them in, and then they inadvertently hear our opinion.
02:04I feel like talk shows back in the day like Jenny Jones, Ricky Legg, even Sally, Jesse,
02:09and Oprah, Geraldo, everybody had something different that got everybody.
02:15You can tune into any of those shows and be captivated by what you're seeing.
02:17Nowadays, I feel like most of them are boring, and most of them are lackluster.
02:22I don't know.
02:23Is it because they're afraid to have the real conversations that people are having, or is
02:26it because the brands just don't want to have those real conversations?
02:28Well, daytime is different than nighttime, see?
02:31Everybody thinks they can be a talk show host, and everybody can't.
02:33Everybody wants to do daytime.
02:36I'm just not with the selling of the soap powder and trying to make Christmas wreaths
02:43out of toilet tissue rolls and stuff like that.
02:45I want to do like what Hugh Hefner used to have, Playboy After Dark, boozy and sort of
02:53sexy with poetry or comedy and musical artists and stuff like that.
03:01I'm not trying to get the housewives on my team, so that's what is up for me.
03:08I just want late night.